@@deandrury4330 Face is Top 5 also. I would say that he's better than Cube, only because Cube took years off to do movies. Face got a lot of introspective raps that everybody felt.
In my opinion This is the only argument that makes sense to me other than that comparing cube to all other rappers barring nas and Jay is an insult. The guy was a teenage hip hop superstar. Jackin for beats / Kill at Will changed mixtapes. Fuck the police. Amerikka most wanted . Boys in the hood. Lethal injection. The predator .. it’s a disrespect.
@@professionalamateur232 well lyricist's are Rakim, Kane, Kool G Rap , Run Dmc, Pac's first album's, Wu-Tang, Redman, Nas, Onyx, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, some of Spice 1 187 Proof, 380 on that ass, Mo' Mail,....ECT, Scarface, just some of the lyrical legends in Real Hip-Hop
@@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj How many of those albums did Pac sell after death! U emotional weirdo Pac fans stays making excuses when someone disagrees with u. Cube was outselling Pac until Pac went to death row if u wanna talk record sales. And Mc Hammer was out selling everyone in the 90's.
Why people keep disrespecting All Eyez On Me album? The album outlived & outsold every 90s rap album and its most played rap album each year. The album had songs for every category, sad,love,gangsta,heaven etc. Stop playing with All Eyez On Me
@@GollumFromMordor I don’t think people disrespect all eyes on me at all pac just had so much material and different levels that it may seem to be on the back burner but aeom is another phenomenal album 💿
@@GollumFromMordor Best double album ever, hands down. Can play both discs front to back without skipping any tracks, if I’m up to listening to 132 minutes of straight music 😁 The sales for this album are off the charts for a rap album and yet its previous certification was under reported.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Life After Death was better IMO. I skip some of AEOM but none of LAD. AEOM is my fave Pac album though. Lots of great songs on there.
@@zartan215it depends on what you looking at 2pac is the most influential rapper of all time he’s still being talk about he’s been gone since 96 name another rapper that’s getting mentioned like that
Thing about Pac was he never cared about being the best, only the realest and he accomplished that in spades. Make no mistake, he IS the GOAT, but he never seeked that title or called himself such. He let his music speak for itself and he was accorded that title by the listeners.
There is an interview where PAC says he never said he was the best rapper, however he would continue to improve musically which he did. Tupac was like a blues player, or soul singer. You can compare lyrics or songs but he was the greatest overall complete package.
@@nasirjones-bey6565 yup he only cared about being the realest rapper. He became GOATED without ever seeking to be the best, he let his music speak for itself.
Pac would have lived longer if he would have stopped affiliating with gangsters and fakin' the funk as if he was a gangster. Pac's death is his own doing.
Yo, ain't nobody gonna be checking for cube 30 years after he's gone. I'm in Africa, and globally tupac is on rotation....... even though he didn't grow or evolve 😂😂
Kill at Will, Death Certificate, Amerikkka's Most, The Predator are classics. No Vaseline was insane. Cube was a beast in the 90s. Sir Jinx beats were 🔥🔥🔥. Young people dont know because they see him as the funny guy in movies.
All you feminine emotional dudes looking for a rapper to “touch your soul” and make you cry ….love Tupac! 😂😂😂😂 Tupac is for depressed juvenile delinquents when behavioral issues….go to therapy
Wtf his Lord Jamar talking about? 2Pacalypes Now was his first album. And secondly, Pac was getting into his bag on the Thug Life album. New York rappers are always hating on Pac lowkey but never really fully listen/know his catalog.
Those of us who actually lived it -- 30 years ago -- don't keep every single perfect, chronological date detail at the forefront of our minds when put on the spot in an interview.
@@beatthetrap777Not mad at anyone picking Pac but please listen to AMERIKKKA'S MOST WANTED, KILL AT WILL, and DEATH CERTIFICATE. Death Certificate in particular is what Malcolm X would have been if he dropped a rap album. Death Certificate is some powerful music.
@@williamwalsh1533 lol 😂 Ice Cube was fake with that Pro Black shit and Tupac was real with his and Tupacs music is ten times more powerful and important than Ice Cubes these are facts just look at their impacts
@@MinoTunes Pac's sample size is smaller, but his impact was greater in lots of ways. Cube only shines when police brutality is a major hot topic across amerikkka. Pac shines in any weather, any topic.
@@r.i.p.kobeandnipsey8647Right it was 2paclypse now.. Im strapped was the lead single. I still remember the video of pac n da jail cell rappin sittin on a stool❤❤❤
😂go on and break it down then, I would love to hear your intelligent break down comparison like Lord did, and he did a great job Now me on the other hand, I can't personally choose because of the impacts both of them and their music.....💪 had on my life I have so much to say about both of them....... one thing I can say tho is....... that black panther back ground Pac has, and the way he embraced the history would definitely be a plus for me...... ..........
Pac didn't start pickin up steam until Me Against the World that's his third album Cube was on fire before he left NWA he got at least 5 or 6 classic albums under his belt
Cube is arguably the Most underrated Rapper arguably ever because he gets overlooked once other factors and styles of Hip Hop took over. Cube's peak and Prime was 88-92, he could do no wrong period. Jerri Curl Era Cube was unfadeable, streets know it
Cube definitely underrated. But with all the factors put in I think LL Cool J is even more underrated. He has one of the best cases as to being the greatest than anyone does. But most of these fans don't even know what LL did up until like his 5th album.
@@JamesEarlBonez yeh .which?It was a good dat and Check ya self? DEAR MaMa plays every mothers day ..Changes..Hit em up..Me againt the world..Keep your head up...and more.
2Pac is the only rap artist to release multiple albums in the 90s that each surpassed 500 million streams on Albums with over 3 billion streams 2Pac is the only musician across all genres to have more than one album from the 90s exceed 3 billion streams on Spotify
2Pac hands down! His 1st album, his last album, his double album, all of them, he got better, he transcended multiple platforms and cultures, took on the artform to create change and positive impact for people and communities, and all in a few short years!
@@deandrury4330 Face is my 3rd favorite rapper of all time, and has one of the best catalogs. That said, Pac would come out on top against Face, cause he had the greater apex. Face vs Cube would be interesting. I’d probably go with Face overall.
Apparently, it didn't get worse for cube if cube grew to become a successful entrepreneur owning teams and stuff for the communities...stop living in 1996
@@TyberiusWalker check the argument...rapping skills the topic.Tupac was an even better actor if you wanna go there.Ice Cube couldnt play the roles Pac did..love scenes..a crack head..a neighborhood psycho..dramatic roles.Cubes best roles are probably Higher Learning and Boyz n Tha Hood..Pacs Poetic Justice role and Juice were deeper tho.
PAC’s first two albums tanked ! Third was good of course the all eyes is probably the best album ever . Personally pac made dope music but There are emcees better than pac . Nas, inspector deck , method man , black thought, rakim
Snoop was the crown prince of Death Row until Tupac "dethroned" him with Death Row he really became a superstar after his death he became a mythical figure
Respectfully you are absolutely correct. Although, I do believe that Ice Cube is the stronger rapper with more content than Snoop though. Again, you are right and I don’t wanna make you feel like I’m starting shit 😝. Respectfully my Nigga 🖖🏾!!
Snoop doggystyle sold 806,858 copes the first week. Pac all eyes on me sold 566,000 the first week. Snoop was still .bow pac dethroned snoop and pac sold less records than snoop.
Y'all forgot the classics Pac dropped with Thug life Volume 1, singles dropped on soundtracks, plus some of the material on posthumous releases. 75 million plus 🌎 says it all.
@@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU I was around back then, pushing 47 now. So there goes your theory: right down the shitter. Cube is washed up, meanwhile we are still talking about Pac THREE decades after the fact. Give it a rest.
@@incogneto2834 Facts. Cube never made a Keep Ya Head Up or a Dear Mama. He never made a Blasphemy. Nor a So Many Tears. Pac’s verse from “Still I Rise” clears anything Cube ever penned.
It’s a toss up ⬆️ between the two.. Y’all better stop disrespecting Cube like he ain’t arguably the Greatest too smh 🤦🏽♂️ he got way too many classics under his belt , a living legend
Cube first 5 projects is literally the blueprint for revolutionary gangsta rap. Americkkka's Most, Death Certificate, Kill At Will, Predator and Lethal Injection is the foundation for a single MC that's gangsta, revolutionary, and conscious at the same time.
@jlove8441 Not how Cube did it. Dude had the government sending him letters asking him to chill. He was literally talking about racial combat and gunning down the 🐖
Cube went to college and graduated with a master's degree. Never been to jail, never sold dope. He was rapping eazy E life not his. It's sad that your favorite gangster rapper was never a gangster lol cube had a lot of people fooled.
@@trilldaddy2938 The fact that educating yourself is looked down upon is tragic. It was obvious Cube was educated soon as you heard him rap so those thinking he was actually out doing drive bys weren't that bright to begin with.
' King of the Hill" by Ice Cube was waaaaay harder and i love Can't C Me by 2pac .. that's a classic too frfr but Ice Cube "King of the Hill" felt very personal 🔥
@@alexanderadonyae7937 yea its a dope track Listen to -If I die tonight-. I love Cube and WC.. but Pac mastered all these cats styles before his demise...
The minute he said cube I just stopped watching. There is no rapper alive or passed that will bring bring the passion the energy the emotion the intensity the power that pac projected through his words and more importantly his voice. Ice cube is nowhere near what pac I was even till this day. Pac brought tears to eyes of many by his emotive abilities.
Cube & Pac, the teacher and the pupil. Pac was a dancer while Cube was dropping albums since the late 80s, put the West on the map and introduced Gangsta Rap! What is this about?
Ice cube been saying this for years. Tupac got some heavy material tho. Ice cubes impact is stronger in a different way. Teenage gangsta superstar, his music with NWA gangsta gangsta- boys in the hood fuck that police str8 outta Compton- he just kept it 100. Then all the solo shit Amerikka most wanted went platinum with no radio play like people are sleeping on this mans music. I even believe that if a lot of people revisits cube music especially the ones who love pac for example . they might even start to think and feel different. The difference in their art is shown in No Vaseline vs Hit ‘Em up / bomb first to me.
Jamar is 100% accurate! Cube's Amerikka's Most, Kill At Will, & Death Certificate were CLASSIC albums that had full run-through tracks. No skips! Lethal Injection on got Wacker will a lot of filler joints! Cube definitely got wacker later on. Pac got better with his last projects from Me Against the World, All Eyez, & Makavelli. Pac's earlier albums had joints with a lot of filler songs.
Cube has been number 1 on my lists since I first heard I ain't the one... after that,to me he couldn't do know wrong. And when he hooked up with Chuck D.,Bomb Sqaud, and the N.O.I, he shook up rap!
@@L1am21your right Pac was always better on his own, i think he was just putting his friends and homies on, but it's obvious he made them all sound trash next to him, that's why it always sounded like fillers
Cube didn't get worse, he stopped doing music. 3 classic albums and even lethal injection was pretty good. Both are special mcs . Both had a message in the music, it's close. Lean towards cube
It’s hard to compare those two it’s like comparing Mike Tyson to Floyd maywether. PAC is more like Tyson wild and unpredictable one hitter quitters. Cube is like Floyd finesse calculated might not knock you out but he’s gonna whoop yo ass for all 12 rounds. It’s just a matter of preference.
Tupac is the Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan of hip hop. There is no one else ever. No matter how many records, no matter how many sells. Remember he died in 96.
Ah, no he isn't lol. Maybe Marvin Gaye in terms of dying early and becoming larger after death. But M.Jackson was a child phenom who everybody knew was great from a young boy. Michael Jordan was the man coming out of college. He was killing the pro players in the Olympics before playing an NBA game. Pac wasn't some mc who other mc's worshipped his skills. Y'all act like He came out the gate like Rakim, Kane, The D.O.C. or some shit. If u were there u would know what I mean. Controversy & his untimely death made Pac even greater.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Pac was a ballet student and feminine he didn’t have any male role model so he wanted to become a gangster he got raised by revolutionary parents he had no reason to become a gangster lmao he played a character and got killed for it lmao.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Aww you mad pac meatrider did i offend your boyfriend pac? Lmao for telling the truth about his background and being a fake gangster.
Nobody wrote for nwa but cube. Cube was the only real Mc in that crew. So he gets no points for that. Tupac top 3 albums are better than anything cube ever made musically. He tried to bite pac style going at the east coast with bow down after pac dropped hit em up. Cube was sending shots on the low. He's a user and a hater. Period
Ice Cube is the goat of the late 80's/early 90s and Tupac took pages out his book and became the goat of the mid to late 90s. There would be no Pac without Cube. They're both all time greats. No need to choose.
In my opinion, Cube had a subliminal dis of Pac on Biggie's IF I SHOULD DIE BEFORE I WAKE. "...you can miss me acting gay, you (BIG) the king of New York, I'm the king of LA." Not only does he claim to be the king of LA but he may have known about the interview Pac did when he was in highschool and was not as masculine as he became later. Thus the line "you can miss me acting gay."
@@williamwalsh1533And I can tell no matter the weather that you and Tupac got your shit together California love. You just ignore that part of the verse lol
When comparing Pac to other rappers it's seems like people are trained to choose 2 Pac, I feel that people choose Pac because he's no longer with us and he's everybody's favorite rapper because of his short lived life people feel like they have to jump on the Pac bandwagon if I were to name my top 5 a lot of people would wanna do something to me because Pac wouldn't be in my top 5.
I can't pick lolol .... I believe both are phenomenal!!!! at the end of the day..... and both in their own way.... and yes, this is a very controversial topic Rest N Peace Pac 🥀🕊️ 🕊️🕊️ 🕊️🕊️ 🕊️ 🕊️ 🕊️🕊️🕊️ 🕊️ ..........🙏 Look at Lord....he really can't figure it out himself😅 and salute to Brand Nubian..... great hip hop group ........... I ain't gonna lie...Lord broke it down, and I like when people give their insight on a certain MC, and I would love to hear some more intelligent break downs of these two MC's and some more Good episode Art
I'm not 🚫 bout to jump into Tupac Vs Icecube...both are True Rap Legend's without questions ❓....and both they're music 🎵🎶 is Legendary Great, Good and Controversial....all wrapped up in One💪🏾🏆💯
Ice Cube after he left NWA was King of New York no one had what Cube had. His first solo with the Bomb Swlquad and his pen 🔥🔥🔥 Then he worked with Jinxs
Cube was never King Of NY your making up shit. At that time if anyone was king of NY it was Public Enemy. Cube was definitely the king of the west though and one of the best in the world.
2Pacalypes now was Pac first album
And that album couldn't fcck with Amerikkka's Most Wanted at all 😂
@TheGDNetwork We know that a lot of albums couldn't mess with Amerikkka's Most Wanted.
@@TheGDNetworkice cube had a head start since 1985. Pac came out in ‘91 and checked out in ‘96 and is the goat since then worldwide.
Right smh like damn how he didn’t know dat
And that was a BANGER!!! IMO
People always forget about
“THUG LIFE”
People forget and full homo life before thug life. He was an actor
The Outlawz too 🤦🏾♂️💯
People forget about Da Lench Mob.
@@rigital230 2pac Loved The Lynch Mob. 💯
They also forget about the Westside Connection
I like ice cube but Tupac the better rapper great personality too.
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Face better than both
@@deandrury4330 Face is Top 5 also. I would say that he's better than Cube, only because Cube took years off to do movies. Face got a lot of introspective raps that everybody felt.
Fuck no. Pac was average. Not even top 20. Cube is top 5
Cube is a better technical rapper Pac wasn’t that great of a lyricist but you felt his words
I'm going wit Pac. Cube ain't wack but Pac spit lyrics that touched your spirit and heart, and he rhymed wit passion.
@@coreywiley9826 facts 💯
I have always been a Cube man, but your statement is spot on. No Cap
@jasonflatley7114 thanks bro
In my opinion This is the only argument that makes sense to me other than that comparing cube to all other rappers barring nas and Jay is an insult. The guy was a teenage hip hop superstar. Jackin for beats / Kill at Will changed mixtapes. Fuck the police. Amerikka most wanted . Boys in the hood. Lethal injection. The predator .. it’s a disrespect.
Cube didn't? Yell
Cube is one of the most underrated lyricists in the history of Hip Hop.
Underrated, who said Cube was underrated? I never heard that Cube was underrated.
@@arveediscatafire9204 When debates arise about who the best lyricists are, his name seldom if ever comes up.
@@professionalamateur232Facts Bro Cube ain't never mentioned in the top 5 discussion I love Pac but Cube is better and Cube inspired Pac .
@@professionalamateur232 well lyricist's are Rakim, Kane, Kool G Rap , Run Dmc, Pac's first album's, Wu-Tang, Redman, Nas, Onyx, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, some of Spice 1 187 Proof, 380 on that ass, Mo' Mail,....ECT, Scarface, just some of the lyrical legends in Real Hip-Hop
Ice Cube is my favorite rapper since I was a child. And i'm not even a oldhead
Cube is a legend no doubt. Mr Shakur is not only a legend but a world wide Icon.
So does Cube.
Pac sold over 75 million units with a 4 year career. Ice cube sold 10 million units with a 50 years of career.
Ice Cube is also NWA.
@@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj How many of those albums did Pac sell after death! U emotional weirdo Pac fans stays making excuses when someone disagrees with u. Cube was outselling Pac until Pac went to death row if u wanna talk record sales. And Mc Hammer was out selling everyone in the 90's.
Cube a icon and he hasn’t had any messy issues with him he’s clean been with the same women
Ice Cube 1988-1993 album/writing catalog is CRAZY!!!!!!
Snapple Factz 💯... Ice 🧊 said Fux Da Police 🚔
After 93 Biggie n Pac took Over 💯
Cube Has a Crazier impact than we think.. From Boys in the Hood to All the Friday Movies..
Facts
@@KOOLCOMEDY Riigghhhtttt
Better run than Pac had.
FYI 2pac’s first album was “2Pacalypse Now”
Exactly 💯💯!! Lord Jamar apparently doesn't know his 1st album dropped in 91/92
@@kevinmiller9325
Jamar is a culture vulture, he’s actually Guyanese but pretends to be one of us
@@joojoobawI always seee u writing bullshit under all his videos 😂😂😂
You look like a white man
@@celebneilz1023 I see you too 😏
Why people keep disrespecting All Eyez On Me album? The album outlived & outsold every 90s rap album and its most played rap album each year. The album had songs for every category, sad,love,gangsta,heaven etc. Stop playing with All Eyez On Me
@@GollumFromMordor I don’t think people disrespect all eyes on me at all pac just had so much material and different levels that it may seem to be on the back burner but aeom is another phenomenal album 💿
@@GollumFromMordor Best double album ever, hands down. Can play both discs front to back without skipping any tracks, if I’m up to listening to 132 minutes of straight music 😁
The sales for this album are off the charts for a rap album and yet its previous certification was under reported.
All Eyez On Me was more commercial. To me, it’s not my favorite 2Pac.
@ I agree to an extent. It was 🔥🔥🔥 but not his best work
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Life After Death was better IMO. I skip some of AEOM but none of LAD. AEOM is my fave Pac album though. Lots of great songs on there.
2pac is The Goat 🐐.
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Absolutely NOT!
@@zartan215 Is your opinion
@@zartan215it depends on what you looking at 2pac is the most influential rapper of all time he’s still being talk about he’s been gone since 96 name another rapper that’s getting mentioned like that
Rakim,Kane,Krs,GRap are all above 2pac
No competition…They have their OWN Lane!
Yeah but we loooove to compare & compete for no good reason
2pac himself said he surpassed him
Hip hop is competition that’s why Kendrick vs drake happens because they want to be the best
Thing about Pac was he never cared about being the best, only the realest and he accomplished that in spades.
Make no mistake, he IS the GOAT, but he never seeked that title or called himself such. He let his music speak for itself and he was accorded that title by the listeners.
@@joojoobawthe reason is to have a discussion. You don't have to participate
“That was on makaveli bro”😂
That shinier shi....😂😂
It wasn't though.
😂😂😂
@@universalconquest4447he meant to say California Love
@@WavyMaxson05 Cali Love and Live and Die in LA are both on the All Eyes on Me Album.
There is an interview where PAC says he never said he was the best rapper, however he would continue to improve musically which he did. Tupac was like a blues player, or soul singer. You can compare lyrics or songs but he was the greatest overall complete package.
@@nasirjones-bey6565 🎯🎯🎯
@@nasirjones-bey6565 yup he only cared about being the realest rapper.
He became GOATED without ever seeking to be the best, he let his music speak for itself.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 superbly put!!
Always gotta put it in perspective that Tupac had a 5 year run while Ice Cube was able to live a full life & evolve.
2pacs a legend...hes now in the same league with Bob Marley,Jimi Hendrix..Elvis..Kurt Cobain
@incogneto2834 2pac was there before all of them, you must've heard of 2pac just now or something
Pac would have lived longer if he would have stopped affiliating with gangsters and fakin' the funk as if he was a gangster.
Pac's death is his own doing.
Yo, ain't nobody gonna be checking for cube 30 years after he's gone. I'm in Africa, and globally tupac is on rotation....... even though he didn't grow or evolve 😂😂
Right. Also, Cube was four years in by the time Tupac put out an album.
Kill at Will, Death Certificate, Amerikkka's Most, The Predator are classics. No Vaseline was insane. Cube was a beast in the 90s. Sir Jinx beats were 🔥🔥🔥. Young people dont know because they see him as the funny guy in movies.
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Bootleg & B-Sides and them War and Peace albums them joints were also classics
Right.
Young Ice Cube is Top 5 DOA
@@Foxxsilver101Cube is way better and I love Pac
Cube never touched my soul pause
Take off the kneepads
What's your opinion of DEATH CERTIFICATE, Cube's best album?
Same, Cube is dope but I never really been a fan!!
Did u hear Death Certificate?
All you feminine emotional dudes looking for a rapper to “touch your soul” and make you cry ….love Tupac! 😂😂😂😂 Tupac is for depressed juvenile delinquents when behavioral issues….go to therapy
Wtf his Lord Jamar talking about? 2Pacalypes Now was his first album. And secondly, Pac was getting into his bag on the Thug Life album. New York rappers are always hating on Pac lowkey but never really fully listen/know his catalog.
@@ThatDopeNinja Is it hate, or are u getting into your feelings like a groupie cause he didn't pick YOUR favorite rapper
@@lethal5flow679 The latter.
Those of us who actually lived it -- 30 years ago -- don't keep every single perfect, chronological date detail at the forefront of our minds when put on the spot in an interview.
SMH y’all need to stop being pac groupies, cube had it on LOCK for years. Just say u weren’t around when it happened…it’s ok.
@@ThatDopeNinja True indeed!
I’m taking PAC and it ain’t even close 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Exactly!!
@@beatthetrap777Not mad at anyone picking Pac but please listen to AMERIKKKA'S MOST WANTED, KILL AT WILL, and DEATH CERTIFICATE. Death Certificate in particular is what Malcolm X would have been if he dropped a rap album. Death Certificate is some powerful music.
Ice Cube by a landslide
You tripping. Even pave said he copied Cube a lot of ways.
@@williamwalsh1533 lol 😂 Ice Cube was fake with that Pro Black shit and Tupac was real with his and Tupacs music is ten times more powerful and important than Ice Cubes these are facts just look at their impacts
To make it easy for everyone
Cubes Prime 1987-1995
Pacs prime 1993-1996
Yep
@@MinoTunes Pac's sample size is smaller, but his impact was greater in lots of ways. Cube only shines when police brutality is a major hot topic across amerikkka. Pac shines in any weather, any topic.
@@MinoTunes actually PAC’s prime was 93 til infinity 🫡 still to this day them makaveli 1 through 10s are insane
@@GottabecleanTelevision Pac is dead... he died in 1996 his prime was until then.
1992-1996. Remember juice came out in 92
I'm taking 2pac
That’s not PAC’s first album 😂
THANK YOU 🤣
@@r.i.p.kobeandnipsey8647Right it was 2paclypse now.. Im strapped was the lead single. I still remember the video of pac n da jail cell rappin sittin on a stool❤❤❤
@@jermainewright4339strapped or trapped?
@@JMS849Lmao 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 "trapped"
@@JMS849 them crips were strapped on 2pac while hiz fanboys are trapped in hiz closet 😅
He crazy AF..PAC catalog untouchable
Thanks for the heads up! Now no longer going to listen to the garbage interview 💯
😂go on and break it down then, I would love to hear your intelligent break down comparison like Lord did, and he did a great job
Now me on the other hand, I can't personally choose because of the impacts both of them and their music.....💪 had on my life
I have so much to say about both of them....... one thing I can say tho is....... that black panther back ground Pac has, and the way he embraced the history would definitely be a plus for me......
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Just google how many units Cube sold & how many Pac sold worldwide and there is your answer.
Pac didn't start pickin up steam until Me Against the World that's his third album Cube was on fire before he left NWA he got at least 5 or 6 classic albums under his belt
2pac is the better M.C. 💯
Cube is arguably the Most underrated Rapper arguably ever because he gets overlooked once other factors and styles of Hip Hop took over. Cube's peak and Prime was 88-92, he could do no wrong period. Jerri Curl Era Cube was unfadeable, streets know it
How is a guy who consistently shows up in peoples Top 5s “underrated” lol C-Bo is underrated… Cube is pretty damn well rated
Cube definitely underrated. But with all the factors put in I think LL Cool J is even more underrated. He has one of the best cases as to being the greatest than anyone does. But most of these fans don't even know what LL did up until like his 5th album.
underrated by whom? maybe by the young kids. I feel like most cats who know all the eras of hip hop always give him his credit.
@gheewhiz U & I know. The Pac, Biggie, Jay, Nas (fans) generation and after don't know know.
@gheewhiz Cube doesn't get the same props as Jay z, pac, biggie,Snoop,nas and that's 5 right off the bat,folks of certain era yeah
There is no wrong answer. The choice is ur's..
Word up.
Truth
Na. There is a wrong answer. Tupac shits on cube easily! People are making cube out to be something he isn't. Cube is subpar af mediocre af.
@@TheEASTSIDECHICANO Found the gaypac meatrider! pac was a ballet student
@@TheEASTSIDECHICANO Found the pac meatrider! pac was a ballet student
I like some of Cubes early work but not more that 2pac's body of work.
PAC for the win
aint nobody streaming Ice Cube albums like the streaming 2Pac albums today ..
Lies
@@JamesEarlBonez yeh
.which?It was a good dat and Check ya self? DEAR MaMa plays every mothers day ..Changes..Hit em up..Me againt the world..Keep your head up...and more.
That's because those streaming are a bunch of fatherless dudes who worship Pac... those of us who lived the 90s favored Cube over him.
Young cats stream. Those who lived the 90s know Cube was better.
2Pac is the only rap artist to release multiple albums in the 90s that each surpassed 500 million streams on Albums with over 3 billion streams
2Pac is the only musician across all genres to have more than one album from the 90s exceed 3 billion streams on Spotify
2Pac hands down! His 1st album, his last album, his double album, all of them, he got better, he transcended multiple platforms and cultures, took on the artform to create change and positive impact for people and communities, and all in a few short years!
@@iamtracywilson plus you cannot forget the makaveli files! 1-10 still bangin and in heavy rotation 💯👍🏾
Strictly For My Niggaz wasn't 2Pac's 1st album. It was 2Pacalypse Now. Come on, Cam & Lord Jamar!
@Rondondemarco Thank you for the correction. Much Respect!
Body of work...
2PAC...
No contest...
@@leonbrooker8150 put his body of work up against face I bet you have a different answer
@deandrury4330 ???
@@deandrury4330 Face is my 3rd favorite rapper of all time, and has one of the best catalogs. That said, Pac would come out on top against Face, cause he had the greater apex.
Face vs Cube would be interesting. I’d probably go with Face overall.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818who is face? 😭 younger generation here
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Scarface. Pretty much the greatest southern rapper of all time.
I Feel Exactly Where Lord Jamar Coming From But That Wasn't Pac 1st Album Though...And He Is Right, Pac Got Better As Time went On And Cube Got Worse.
Apparently, it didn't get worse for cube if cube grew to become a successful entrepreneur owning teams and stuff for the communities...stop living in 1996
@@TyberiusWalkerI think he meant music not success
@@TyberiusWalker check the argument...rapping skills the topic.Tupac was an even better actor if you wanna go there.Ice Cube couldnt play the roles Pac did..love scenes..a crack head..a neighborhood psycho..dramatic roles.Cubes best roles are probably Higher Learning and Boyz n Tha Hood..Pacs Poetic Justice role and Juice were deeper tho.
PAC’s first two albums tanked ! Third was good of course the all eyes is probably the best album ever .
Personally pac made dope music but
There are emcees better than pac . Nas, inspector deck , method man , black thought, rakim
@@mansamusa2012 S4MN went plat in 1 year. That's not tanking.
Cube - better rapper (slightly)
Pac - better Artist (by a Mile)
Snoop was the crown prince of Death Row until Tupac "dethroned" him with Death Row he really became a superstar after his death he became a mythical figure
Respectfully you are absolutely correct. Although, I do believe that Ice Cube is the stronger rapper with more content than Snoop though.
Again, you are right and I don’t wanna make you feel like I’m starting shit 😝. Respectfully my Nigga 🖖🏾!!
Snoop doggystyle sold 806,858 copes the first week. Pac all eyes on me sold 566,000 the first week. Snoop was still .bow pac dethroned snoop and pac sold less records than snoop.
PAC and it ain’t even close !!!
Exactly 💯
This soundtrack is fire, good pick!
Y'all forgot the classics Pac dropped with Thug life Volume 1, singles dropped on soundtracks, plus some of the material on posthumous releases. 75 million plus 🌎 says it all.
No, didn't forget. It ain't up against anything Cube did... only young cats who weren't around back then think this is even debatable. Cube >>> Pac.
@@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU Pac had more range and depth..content.
@@incogneto2834 I lived the 90s. Nope.
@@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU
I was around back then, pushing 47 now. So there goes your theory: right down the shitter.
Cube is washed up, meanwhile we are still talking about Pac THREE decades after the fact. Give it a rest.
@@incogneto2834
Facts. Cube never made a Keep Ya Head Up or a Dear Mama. He never made a Blasphemy. Nor a So Many Tears.
Pac’s verse from “Still I Rise” clears anything Cube ever penned.
Pac, ice cube is ok, cube was great as well, but I’m going with pac
Pac. Cube is top 3 tho.
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. was Pac’s second album. I like 2Pacalypse Now way more than Amerikkka’s Most Wanted but I luv Death Certificate.
Cube top 3 if you starting a top 50 list from reverse.
@@universalconquest4447 Bugging hardbody.
Both are elite but in different ways no need to compare when you can enjoy both artist hate when people do that both are goats
It’s a toss up ⬆️ between the two.. Y’all better stop disrespecting Cube like he ain’t arguably the Greatest too smh 🤦🏽♂️ he got way too many classics under his belt , a living legend
Hes among the greats..not at that greatest table tho.
@@incogneto2834stop disrespecting cube. If it wasn’t for him there wouldn’t be no Tupac anyway. Cube is top 3.
Facts @@AERakim13
I can see how much effort you put in!
How the F is this even debatable 😂😂😂
Because people who were actually alive back then know better.
@@missilecustoms right no slight to 🧊 but pac is definitely a 🐐 on a whole nother level
@@GottabecleanTelevisionice cube is top 3!. Tupac ain’t on ice cube level no way
@@missilecustoms it isn’t. Pac > Cube.
@ strongly disagree u can tell by count of how many are in the comments
Cube first 5 projects is literally the blueprint for revolutionary gangsta rap. Americkkka's Most, Death Certificate, Kill At Will, Predator and Lethal Injection is the foundation for a single MC that's gangsta, revolutionary, and conscious at the same time.
hip hop started as revolutionary Music way before Cube .. so stop the 🧢
@jlove8441 Not how Cube did it. Dude had the government sending him letters asking him to chill. He was literally talking about racial combat and gunning down the 🐖
Cube went to college and graduated with a master's degree. Never been to jail, never sold dope. He was rapping eazy E life not his. It's sad that your favorite gangster rapper was never a gangster lol cube had a lot of people fooled.
@@trilldaddy2938 The fact that educating yourself is looked down upon is tragic. It was obvious Cube was educated soon as you heard him rap so those thinking he was actually out doing drive bys weren't that bright to begin with.
@leroygreen6310 I wouldn't have even gave dude a response..... YOU CAN HEAR THE IGNORANCE IN HIS COMMENT‼️🎯💯💯
I’m a big cube fan but yes it’s true his music did get weaker. Pac went uphill & better albums 🤷🏻♂️
@@whou4145 cube only got weaker because he stopped the conscious political approach and started doing family friendly movies
He is my favorite rapper of all time, and I admit that, his music started getting worse after the Westside Connection bow down album
2 live and die and LA is fire and I live in NY. Never been to Cali
That is a great anthem for them
I'm one of the hardest people on the West Coast and that song is trash. Most definitely not an anthem. California Love was hard.
@universalconquest4447 that's definitely the #1 Cali anthem. but to live and die is still a great song for LA
“Cmon man that’s what we doing?” Lol luv it
RIP PAC
Listen to Can't C Me... Pac was Untouchable.
' King of the Hill" by Ice Cube was waaaaay harder and i love Can't C Me by 2pac .. that's a classic too frfr but Ice Cube "King of the Hill" felt very personal 🔥
@@alexanderadonyae7937 yea its a dope track
Listen to -If I die tonight-.
I love Cube and WC.. but Pac mastered all these cats styles before his demise...
They be Hating on Pac, low key. (Pac)is the best All time.
So everyone that don’t ride on pacs meat is hating? Lmao
The Two Greatest West Coast Rappers of All Time, Both of them make my Top 3 to be honest.
Those 3 Album runs by Pac & Cube were KRAZY.
Everything tupac spoke came to reality. Tupac was our mordern day black jesus. Love ever hurt never ❤
Cube all the way.
I hate when people mention Pac and have no idea what they are talking about 🤣
'94-'96 Pac better than Ice Cube at any point of his career, and I love Cube.
Arguable
I never really got into Ice Cube. Pac for me.
You need to go plug in your speakers and revisit.
As much as I fux with 2pac, Cube first albums compared to 2pacs first albums can go either way…Pac over cube later albums💯
The minute he said cube I just stopped watching. There is no rapper alive or passed that will bring bring the passion the energy the emotion the intensity the power that pac projected through his words and more importantly his voice. Ice cube is nowhere near what pac I was even till this day. Pac brought tears to eyes of many by his emotive abilities.
Typical emotional femme response.
Ice cube always been dope throughout his career,as a solo artist and as a group,people forget about westside connection,and all his movie soundtracks
Wtf was that laugh at 1:47💀💀💀💀
Cube & Pac, the teacher and the pupil. Pac was a dancer while Cube was dropping albums since the late 80s, put the West on the map and introduced Gangsta Rap! What is this about?
straight facts💯💯💯
Ice cube been saying this for years. Tupac got some heavy material tho. Ice cubes impact is stronger in a different way. Teenage gangsta superstar, his music with NWA gangsta gangsta- boys in the hood fuck that police str8 outta Compton- he just kept it 100. Then all the solo shit Amerikka most wanted went platinum with no radio play like people are sleeping on this mans music. I even believe that if a lot of people revisits cube music especially the ones who love pac for example . they might even start to think and feel different. The difference in their art is shown in No Vaseline vs Hit ‘Em up / bomb first to me.
4:01 Lmaooo that was on Makaveli bro😂
sorry Cube but Tupac Makaveli raised me and saved my life during my darkest times 💯
Cube got a impressive catalog but pac is great
The death certificate and amerikkka’s most are two of the best albums ever made
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
KILL AT WILL, belongs right there too, bro. And THAT niqqa somehow even forgot it
PERIOD….but these Tupac groupies dont know actual MUSIC
A lot of them wasn’t even born. They know the drama.
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They are. But Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, and 7 Day Theory are three of the best albums ever made.
Jamar is 100% accurate! Cube's Amerikka's Most, Kill At Will, & Death Certificate were CLASSIC albums that had full run-through tracks. No skips! Lethal Injection on got Wacker will a lot of filler joints! Cube definitely got wacker later on. Pac got better with his last projects from Me Against the World, All Eyez, & Makavelli. Pac's earlier albums had joints with a lot of filler songs.
2pac had group called Thuglife and ice cube had group called westside connection after NWA
somebody tell lord to listen to "everything they owe" -2pac. guarantee he change his opinion.
he probAbly never heard in his life
Cube has been number 1 on my lists since I first heard I ain't the one... after that,to me he couldn't do know wrong. And when he hooked up with Chuck D.,Bomb Sqaud, and the N.O.I, he shook up rap!
PAC don’t have filler bars either every single bar pierces ur skin
Pac has filler songs never mind filler bars. Strictly is almost a filler album 😂
@@L1am21 You can't talk to these stans, man.
@@L1am21your right Pac was always better on his own, i think he was just putting his friends and homies on, but it's obvious he made them all sound trash next to him, that's why it always sounded like fillers
Cube didn't get worse, he stopped doing music. 3 classic albums and even lethal injection was pretty good. Both are special mcs . Both had a message in the music, it's close. Lean towards cube
FACTS 💯 I'm from the west coast and I approve of the statement of Lord Jamar
It’s hard to compare those two it’s like comparing Mike Tyson to Floyd maywether. PAC is more like Tyson wild and unpredictable one hitter quitters. Cube is like Floyd finesse calculated might not knock you out but he’s gonna whoop yo ass for all 12 rounds. It’s just a matter of preference.
2Pacalypse Now
Tupac is the Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan of hip hop. There is no one else ever. No matter how many records, no matter how many sells. Remember he died in 96.
Ah, no he isn't lol. Maybe Marvin Gaye in terms of dying early and becoming larger after death. But M.Jackson was a child phenom who everybody knew was great from a young boy. Michael Jordan was the man coming out of college. He was killing the pro players in the Olympics before playing an NBA game. Pac wasn't some mc who other mc's worshipped his skills. Y'all act like He came out the gate like Rakim, Kane, The D.O.C. or some shit. If u were there u would know what I mean. Controversy & his untimely death made Pac even greater.
@@LifeIsNotorious tupac michael jackson, Michael jordan, goku WHILE dmx is prince, Gary Payton, vegeta though 🔥🔥🔥
At 25
No he isn't.
In '96 there were about 20 rappers better than Pac.
All eyes on me was undefeated.
It's 2pac. Keep it real LJ 😆
This was a fun take from Lord Jamar 😆, PAC and Cube are on my Rushmore but I gotta go with PAC myself on this one
Love Cube, but it’s Pac all day every day.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Pac was an actor he wasn’t even from the west coast he got killed for fucking with real gangsters lmao🤣🤣
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Pac was a ballet student and feminine he didn’t have any male role model so he wanted to become a gangster he got raised by revolutionary parents he had no reason to become a gangster lmao he played a character and got killed for it lmao.
@@mm2003. Man shut the fuck up and take your kindergarten revisionist ass back to the sandlot.
@@AntiRevisionistHHH818 Aww you mad pac meatrider did i offend your boyfriend pac? Lmao for telling the truth about his background and being a fake gangster.
@@mm2003.
Man take your kindergarten revisionist ass back the sandlot and let folks who was actually there do the talking.
2Pac Shakur is the Michael Jordan of this rap stuff let's be honest
No he's not GTFOH! Marvin Gaye at best!
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More like the Chauncey Billups.
All eyez on me Dimond and 2pac greatest hits Dimond what ice cube album went Dimond?🤔2pac will forever be the goat sorry over all rappers 😂😂😂😂
The Predator was Cube's 3rd album... Lethal Injection was the 4th.
4th album if you count Kill at Will but that was an EP I know so you are right on the third full length. Predator was DOPE>
@@KtotheG yea and lord jamar didn’t even mention that one he trippin
Death Certificate is a bonified classic he best work imo
That album is perfect.......
100% perfection.
Nobody wrote for nwa but cube. Cube was the only real Mc in that crew. So he gets no points for that. Tupac top 3 albums are better than anything cube ever made musically. He tried to bite pac style going at the east coast with bow down after pac dropped hit em up. Cube was sending shots on the low. He's a user and a hater. Period
He gets no points for being the only other writer than D.O.C.? This is the MOTHER of clown takes lmaooooooooooo
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Jamar proving that he like most people in these music debates are JUST CHATTING
Love MAKAVELI 💯💯💯💯
I agree, Ice Cube.
I don’t
Ice Cube is the goat of the late 80's/early 90s and Tupac took pages out his book and became the goat of the mid to late 90s. There would be no Pac without Cube. They're both all time greats. No need to choose.
Pac wasn't even goat mid 90s, stop it
In my opinion, Cube had a subliminal dis of Pac on Biggie's IF I SHOULD DIE BEFORE I WAKE. "...you can miss me acting gay, you (BIG) the king of New York, I'm the king of LA." Not only does he claim to be the king of LA but he may have known about the interview Pac did when he was in highschool and was not as masculine as he became later. Thus the line "you can miss me acting gay."
"Taught Tupac how to keep it gangster
I showed Biggie Smalls how to release his anger"_Ice Cube Only One Me
@@williamwalsh1533And I can tell no matter the weather that you and Tupac got your shit together California love. You just ignore that part of the verse lol
Pac wasn't even Top 5 when he was alive. Only young, fatherless dudes think this way.
There is a statue of Tupac Shakur in Ghana here where I am. Lol. Just saying.
that means nothing. cubes best album is way better than pac’s best. you never heard death certificate.
@@jazo85
7 day Theory clears any Cube album.
@ lol you never listened. very obvious.
@@jazo85
I own both albums and unlike you actually heard them in real time 30+ years ago. FOH kiddo. Cube could not hold prime-PAC’s pen.
@ yeah ok. wrote for the whole nwa but can’t hold pac pen. 7 day not even pac best album.
Cube in Westside Connction too, he was fire 🔥🔥🔥
When comparing Pac to other rappers it's seems like people are trained to choose 2 Pac, I feel that people choose Pac because he's no longer with us and he's everybody's favorite rapper because of his short lived life people feel like they have to jump on the Pac bandwagon if I were to name my top 5 a lot of people would wanna do something to me because Pac wouldn't be in my top 5.
PAC but it’s close pac my number 1 n cube my number 5
I can't pick lolol
.... I believe both are phenomenal!!!!
at the end of the day..... and both in their own way.... and yes, this is a very controversial topic
Rest N Peace Pac 🥀🕊️
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Look at Lord....he really can't figure it out himself😅 and salute to Brand Nubian..... great hip hop group
........... I ain't gonna lie...Lord broke it down, and I like when people give their insight on a certain MC, and I would love to hear some more intelligent break downs of these two MC's and some more
Good episode Art
Cube doesn't have a Makaveli. Not even close.
And 2pac doesn't have a death certificate.
Death certificate is better than Macavilli
@@dexterroberts631 never. Cube doesn't have half the substance and soul.
@@L1am21 he didn't need it! 😆
@@dexterroberts631 the fact that you spelled makaveli that way says everything
The Best in history Mr Tupac Shakur
2pac was fan of ice cube and he feat him on his album
This guy is crazy man lol pac is a beast I don’t care what album pac was on top before Heathrow
I'm not 🚫 bout to jump into Tupac Vs Icecube...both are True Rap Legend's without questions ❓....and both they're music 🎵🎶 is Legendary Great, Good and Controversial....all wrapped up in One💪🏾🏆💯
Best answer…💯
Shock G even said 2 apocalypse now was a flop. And that was Tupac's first album
Nothing but filler.
Ice Cube after he left NWA was King of New York no one had what Cube had. His first solo with the Bomb Swlquad and his pen 🔥🔥🔥 Then he worked with Jinxs
Cube was never King Of NY your making up shit. At that time if anyone was king of NY it was Public Enemy. Cube was definitely the king of the west though and one of the best in the world.