A harsh & funky take on an additive oscillator // Octaves VCO from Befaco

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • Here we have what Befaco say is "a harsh and funky take on an additive oscillator" as it has individual harmonics or partials and VCAs to modulate them. However the idea of harmonics here is replaced with 6 octaves of square waves. It's an analog design with a triangle core oscillator that through frequency doublers give 6 octaves to work with, each turned into squares that respond to PWM. An onboard mixer allows for blending these squares, you can break out into new tones with self patching, or make multi-layered wide frequency spanning voices from the individual outs.
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    *TIMING INDEX // CHAPTERS*
    00:00 Hello & patch previews
    01:10 Feature run down
    02:44 Raw sound demo
    03:43 Polymetric percussive octave riffs! (my favourite thing)
    06:05 Self patched additive synth style sounds
    08:13 Huge stereo drones
    10:11 PWM at audiorate - tearing additive octaves
    11:51 Exploring sync tones + upper octave overtones
    13:42 Sub octaves, not just higher octaves
    16:01 Noisy FM percussion
    18:09 Randomised additives - modulating octave blends per note
    19:24 Alarms, pacman & phone chirps - Octaves VCO as a modulator
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 92

  • @Bills_Place
    @Bills_Place 3 місяці тому +17

    Me: I do not need another VCO.
    Also me: I kinda need this VCO.

    • @pat2rome
      @pat2rome 3 місяці тому

      Life as a modular enthusiast, summed up in two sentences.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      haha Pat!

  • @Piqued
    @Piqued 3 місяці тому +14

    Befaco is killing it. They're one of those companies where I would love a full case of their modules.

    • @Lcrymlgy
      @Lcrymlgy 3 місяці тому +3

      They're local to me, I was in the launch party for this and the pony VCF last week and came out thinking I'll go to them with a couple ideas of pre built systems.

    • @fentanyljones6956
      @fentanyljones6956 3 місяці тому +1

      It all integrates together fantastically.

    • @fentanyljones6956
      @fentanyljones6956 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Lcrymlgyi have a great befaco system designed in modulargrid. At one point that was gonna be my first project.

    • @Lcrymlgy
      @Lcrymlgy 3 місяці тому

      They're just missing some kind of quantizer IMO

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      thanks for joining us Lcrmlgy appreciate it :)

  • @M_orcan
    @M_orcan 3 місяці тому +3

    the multiple outputs & the fact that everything is so tightly synced make me feel like this could actually be really cool for oscillographics

    • @M_orcan
      @M_orcan 3 місяці тому

      little bit of a shame you can't make it go slower with negative volt/oct tho

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      You'd want some filters to round off the squares for graphics stuff on a scope. But yeah octaves work well for making shapes :)

  • @GeorgeLocke
    @GeorgeLocke 3 місяці тому +8

    Forget the Nick Batt PWM memes, if the oscillator has a PWM input, Ben will modulate it at audio rate. Rip that pulse apart, my dude.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      haha yeah that's a definite soft spot

  • @real_anxst
    @real_anxst 3 місяці тому +3

    Hard Sync! Wow. I can patch up something in the neighbourhood of this, but that's a lot of killer functionality in one small package. Fantastic work from Befaco. And great patches showing it off, as usual!
    Also, little dancing people on the edges and in the Data screen just never get old.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +2

      haha thanks, I do sometimes question when I go on a gif search ... is this just stupid? But it amuses me, nice to know it does you too.

  • @Sleipnirrob
    @Sleipnirrob 3 місяці тому +2

    Awesome video. This is similar to what I do with my bank of 5 Dixies, so even though probably not going to buy this, will use some patch ideas. 😎
    The killer here is they all stay in tune haha.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +2

      Nice use of 5 Dixies! I bought 4 of those mk1s as they were only 4HP and the Dixie Controller module years back. I loved them as a bank of LFOs of massive blends of 4 oscillators.
      As you say this in totally stable tune is nice. Using sync between the Dixies would help get them locked in though.

  • @FileTransferProtocol
    @FileTransferProtocol 3 місяці тому +2

    OOOOOF! That massive stereo drone sound. Wow!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      that was the first thing I did with the module, really liked it.

  • @chrisdaniels4420
    @chrisdaniels4420 3 місяці тому +1

    Hard Sync! Great demo. Such clever patches.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thank you, appreciate it.

  • @TheMachinesWon
    @TheMachinesWon 3 місяці тому +1

    I love Befaco, this VCO sounds awesome!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      Indeed it does! :)

  • @L-xir_hadra
    @L-xir_hadra 3 місяці тому +1

    excellent review , you're approach is excellent thanks for that

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thanks, appreciate that.

  • @jsleeio
    @jsleeio 3 місяці тому +1

    Hard sync! Looks great. Very little there I'd want to change, which is rare for me. I dig it

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      ah nice, thanks!

  • @monkey_breath
    @monkey_breath 3 місяці тому +2

    hard sink!!!! damn dude, i love a good square wave, and this thing is the king of squares, i love it.. and dude, those arps at 19:10, holy heck, that sounds so freakin good!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! King of Squares haha I like that.

  • @darksparklermusic
    @darksparklermusic 3 місяці тому +3

    Digging this thing. Great patching!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thanks maaaaaayyyyte!

  • @robertmcmurry5489
    @robertmcmurry5489 3 місяці тому +1

    HARD SYNC! wow love the creative uses you showcase here.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thank you, appreciate that.

  • @PWMaarten
    @PWMaarten 3 місяці тому

    As always, great and musical patches!
    The only “synthfluencer” that can let me GAS over modules I don’t need or want.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      "synthfluencer" haha!
      Thanks for nice comment, I'm definitely all about trying to find musical and interesting patches and use cases.

  • @Frozen_Smoke1972
    @Frozen_Smoke1972 3 місяці тому +1

    This sounds feckin' lovely. Great demo too.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      thank you

  • @RedMeansRecording
    @RedMeansRecording 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the demo here 10:34

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      Ay, some nice wonk!

  • @sodothehivesonhisleg
    @sodothehivesonhisleg 3 місяці тому +1

    That first patch really demonstrates the utility of this voice. My case is maxed out already, but if i had room id look at using this as my main analobg voice.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      Thanks, it comes alive when those octaves are animated. Either internally mixed of patched out for filtering/modulation etc.

  • @TMeier
    @TMeier 3 місяці тому +2

    HARD SYNC! Also... I wish they'd allowed this to go deeper into LFO territory, or provided an input to the frequency multiplier. Opens up a whole bunch of uses beyond the (already interesting) oscillator tones.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      Yeah I'd have liked to get it much lower then use it almost like a sequencer with blends of different stepping signals.

  • @JohnLRice
    @JohnLRice 3 місяці тому

    Awesome! 😮👍

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! 😁

  • @lovedeathdisco
    @lovedeathdisco 3 місяці тому +1

    this thing honestly sounds incredible; great work!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, I had a lot of fun with it.

  • @dengyun846
    @dengyun846 3 місяці тому

    Are there any expanders for this planned? A way to cv control individual detune and a tilt/skew would be wonderful. Perfect pair with Fumana too.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      you couldn't add tuning controls as they are frequency doublers from the original source analogue oscillator. Not separate oscillators.
      But I agree, tilting octaves slightly out of tune would lead to some cool things.
      I don't know about any expander plans though.

  • @zipnone1996
    @zipnone1996 3 місяці тому +1

    2:54 😂 classic

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      haha yeah I try to not do them all the time, but couldn't help myself :)

  • @larix.elektro
    @larix.elektro 2 місяці тому +1

    As always: a perfect review !
    There is not all harmonics (like the Verbos harmonic oscillator for example). Are you feeling some limitation by having only 2nd, 4st etc. harmonics, and not the 3rt, 5, 7... ?
    Or is there enough possibilities to forget them ?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 місяці тому

      Hello, thank you!
      I really like having the octaves only it feels like it always musically fits and works both as overtones on top of one of them I might consider and root (others maybe considered sub octaves) but also then when taking out different octaves and articulating them as if they're totally separate layers.
      I would like a fifth, so third harmonic octave+fifth for example but I don't really miss the 5th harmonic and 7th harmonic where you get that not quite in tune (to typical western intonation anyway) sort of third an flat seven thing happening. I tend to like a bit of those mixed in with digital additive synths where there's lots of harmonics and overtones to play with for creating new and different sounding waves.
      Bit of a long ramble of a reply ... hope that's useful in some way!

    • @larix.elektro
      @larix.elektro 2 місяці тому

      @@DivKid Thanks a lot for this looong and very useful explanation.
      The fact that each harmonic is not a pure sine also may changes the way to think about the construction of the timbre.
      This is not the same price, but it should be useful to compare to the ATOV DHO...
      I must admit that I'm a bit obsessed by additive synthesis, espacially when harmonics are not in tune (so, partials instead of harmonics. Like bells). But it's another subject...

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 місяці тому

      Yeah you're right the fact each octave isn't a harmonic a sine as you say) totally changes the approach.
      The comparison to the ATOV DHO is apt as that's octave based. But it's triangles and a dual oscillator and has TZFM and a folder. Plus the normal wave shape outs on the expander (that comes with it). There's a lot to go at with that module.

    • @larix.elektro
      @larix.elektro 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DivKid Oh ! a waveshape on the ATOV DHO ? i'm missing this feature ( Ishould see your review again !)

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  2 місяці тому

      there's two DHO videos now, basically filmed that much with the DHO I had to break it up. It's an impressive unit. Just a different approach and area of the market from the Octaves VCO.

  • @apeirogonmusic
    @apeirogonmusic 3 місяці тому +1

    18 minutes in gets groovy af
    Would pair so beautifully with Step 8
    Oh yeah
    Hard Sync

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      Thank you, yeah that would be a nice pairing. Or a Befaco Muxlicer (to keep it in the family).

    • @apeirogonmusic
      @apeirogonmusic 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DivKid Real Estate Issues lol
      Or Else I would add More Befaco to my amazing Noise Plethora

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      "real estate issues" haha sums up Euro!

  • @tonalaxis
    @tonalaxis 3 місяці тому

    Love the sneaky Nick! lol

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke 3 місяці тому +1

      Please help me. I can't find it. Send help.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      haha BattMan

  • @franknada6427
    @franknada6427 3 місяці тому

    Pair that module with a clock divider you could get a wild rhythm generator right? Combos of bursts and holds

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      you could clock divide down lower octaves into sub audio from one of the outputs yeah.

  • @drydessert4198
    @drydessert4198 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video. :) It is a very interesting VCO. Did you talk to the people at Befaco about this OSC having square waves exclusively and not also saw, triangle ?

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +2

      I did speak about something along those lines, but what's the question you're asking?
      "Why" is it only square waves? I imagine they'd say as that was the design. Inspired by divide down, octave options on organs and things.

    • @EwanHemingway
      @EwanHemingway 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm working on the VCV version, and plan to expose the triangle core as a little Easter egg. Something more for wavefolders to chew on... 😊

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Diego hacked a little connection point off the back of the PCB for the demo case with the live event we did. This was so he could sync the scope (DATA) to the triangle core easily. It was then a nice thing to patch back into the PWM of the unit and tune it down so you listen to and work with the higher octaves while using the triangle base frequency as the modulator.

    • @TMeier
      @TMeier 3 місяці тому +1

      @@EwanHemingway Yes!! Please let the VCV version go down to LFO rates too.... or add a little expander for an input to the frequency multipliers?

  • @christophervincent77
    @christophervincent77 3 місяці тому

    Something about the Befaco design language really speaks to me... or maybe i'm just on too much Hard Sync.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      too much hard sync before bedtime and you won't sleep well

  • @jaibhimadevi5805
    @jaibhimadevi5805 14 днів тому

    Befaco also lets unworthy software peasants like me enjoy the goodness, with Rack releases!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  14 днів тому

      Absolutely worthy! Make the most of what you can in any format you can or like to.
      I like that these things are in VCV too :)

  • @zipnone1996
    @zipnone1996 3 місяці тому +1

    Hard sync 😂

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thanks! :)

  • @michaelgerdau5418
    @michaelgerdau5418 3 місяці тому +1

    Hard Sync

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому

      thanks Michael

  • @RandyPiscione
    @RandyPiscione 3 місяці тому

    It's not actually an additive oscillator.

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +2

      Hi Randy,
      does adding octaves of squares add of subtract, they add. But I presume you mean additive synthesis which I would lean to what I think is your angle here that additive synthesis isn't purely doing things that add harmonics (i.e. folding, FM, mixing etc) but specifically sine waves through VCAs tuned to the harmonic series modulated to create existing common waves, or new waves/tones. In that regard, absolutely it's not an additive oscillator.
      However what Befaco said, and I said/quoted was that it's an "analog take", take as in influenced by, on those principles. Which I think is entirely fair.
      Happy to discuss, I enjoy the conversation, thanks!

    • @RandyPiscione
      @RandyPiscione 3 місяці тому

      @@DivKid, thanks for the reply. I realize I risk being "that guy" (or "girl" or some other descriptor, pronoun, etc.) but I'm not even sure there's such a thing as an additive oscillator. I think this is more of a west coast thing, performing something similar to wavefolding but cooler, because you can pick the "harmonics" that are generated. You are correct that additive synthesis refers specifically to adding sine waves together, usually according to the harmonic overtone series, to generate complex waveforms. Harmonics are sine waves. The VCO you're reviewing is almost like a pulse version of a supersaw VCO. In the interests of full disclosure, additive synthesis is something I've been wanting to do with my modular for a long time but it's a bit complicated, so I'm helping another Eurorack manufacturer design a VCO that simplifies things (a bit).

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +2

      Hello again, not too much "that" person at all.
      I'm familiar with additive synthesis from various bits of software and sound design work prior to making modular videos.
      The only thing that sort of does it properly in Eurorack to my knowledge/memory is the XAOC devices Odessa. It's digital and has lots of harmonics and typical controls to bend, tilt, stretch them etc.
      For analogue there's the Verbos Harmonic Oscillator, which from talking to Mark the designer some time ago is using folding to work up through the harmonics and tapping point off, or chaining those processes in series etc.
      Additive really is a synthesis type and not just an oscillator. Much like DX based FM (phase modulation) is really a whole synthesis method as each operator is an oscillator, VCA and envelope controlling it.
      It's interesting to look at this as a west coast style thing, pulses I think most would associate as an east coast thing. Though I get the reference to stacking them up with how this works. Interesting.
      I can't say I agree this is like a square version of a super saw, super pulses do exist (the implementation in the Acid Rain Technology Chainsaw is very nice, that blends between saw/pulse too). I don't make that connection here though for 2 reasons, first these are spread in octaves and aren't centred around one note and second there's no actual detune to create the unison sound, they're perfectly in sync. But again, I kind of get where you're coming from.
      It's interesting to think through and talk about, thanks for doing so. Curious what will come of your work with a designer on bringing additive synthesis ideas into the format. All the best with it.

    • @RandyPiscione
      @RandyPiscione 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DivKid Too bad you're not closer to Toronto, Canada. This would be an interesting discussion, over drinks of course!

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah absolutely, perfect thing to sit and chat through long form in person. Maybe our paths will cross at some point, if they do say hello and bring up additive synthesis! :) All the best.

  • @decapitateallcops3214
    @decapitateallcops3214 3 місяці тому +2

    Seeing the funk with a voltage block would be sweet. I imagine everything new module modulated with a VB haha

    • @DivKid
      @DivKid  3 місяці тому +1

      Not a bad thing to image, I bought a second voltage block I liked it that much. Though I haven't used one for a while. I tend to get loads of modulation out of the Eloquencer at the minute.