Why not just set up your lock-miter router bit this way?

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  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2021
  • These bits are useful, and it's not as hard to set one up as you think. Here's how to do it the easy way.
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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +31

    NOTE: I didn't mention setup blocks because they do not account for variations in material thickness. A 3/4" setup block only works with wood that is EXACTLY 3/4" thick.
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    • @keithmarlowe5569
      @keithmarlowe5569 2 роки тому

      Is it possible to use the bit to make a set up block?

    • @joshymcdaniel9233
      @joshymcdaniel9233 Рік тому

      @@keithmarlowe5569 there is that’s what I’m searching for now’ I saw a few videos last time I looked so I’m searching for them now 😂

  • @MichaelCampbell01
    @MichaelCampbell01 5 місяців тому +12

    Once you DO have it set up, get a piece of stock that's the same thickness as your "production" piece, cut into it with the bit, and save it. This becomes a template/guide for the height the next time you need to make this cut on that thickness of stock.

  • @ridercoachdanielle3220
    @ridercoachdanielle3220 2 роки тому +4

    Despite the fact that there is NO SHORTAGE WHATSOEVER of dudes in my life who keep running up and shouting advice at me, I'm learning woodworking pretty much entirely by watching videos, reading, and doing. Of all the woodworking vids I watch, yours are my favorite. Thank you for calmly, simply, conversationally explaining things in as few words as possible without hollering, going off on tangents, flashing all over the place in quick, confused, confusing ways, or any of the other things that make it hard to learn from someone on video. You're doin God's work, friend (assuming God wants me to be able to build stuff without being hollered to/at by every man who knows me).

  • @GotCamel
    @GotCamel 2 роки тому +4

    I bought the Freud miter lock bit and wish these companies would imprint the center of the bit on the big itself so there is no guesswork. It would make the $80 I spent on it worth the purchase. This is the best video I have seen on this topic.

  • @randytellez2451
    @randytellez2451 Місяць тому +1

    Great vid. Recently bought a lock miter bit and was about to attempt my first use. This takes my worry out of the equation. Thank you

  • @gkacarlie1871
    @gkacarlie1871 2 роки тому +1

    Die Höhen- u. Anschlageinstellung ist in diesem Video sehr gut erklärt.
    Ich denke jetz kann ich den Miter-Router-Bit endlich mal in Betrieb nehmen. Thank You

  • @johnbesharian9965
    @johnbesharian9965 3 місяці тому

    A Lock Miter Bit can also be used to make Stickley-Style, Arts & Crafts/Mission style legs for chairs, tables, etc. in Fine Woodworking No.121, Dec. 1996, by Patrick Nelson (p.p. 54-57). The original Stickley method required two shaper bits and set-ups but the lock miter bit only requires one bit at one setting, but two simple jigs to get legs with four quartersawn faces.

  • @TItuszell
    @TItuszell 2 місяці тому

    One of my favourite woodworking channels, clear concise and really helpful advice. Thank you

  • @philipbyrnes7501
    @philipbyrnes7501 3 роки тому +10

    Oh you clever bugga, the idea of double taping another board to the piece you’re cutting is sheer genius and I’d never have thought that one up, so very clever. I can think of other applications for it too. Thanks James, that’s where brilliance mate, good onya from down under, tho, we’re really up over lol

  • @davidmiller4594
    @davidmiller4594 2 місяці тому

    *AWESOME Tutorial Stump!*

  • @frankkirschner
    @frankkirschner 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. Followed your method and got a perfect fit the first time. No idea what will happen the second time. Thanks from a 73-year old beginner.

  • @cyrilnorrie8450
    @cyrilnorrie8450 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your clear and thorough explanation on how to set up a lock-mitre bit. Setting these bits properly is an arduous task , but your method makes it quite easy. Your videos are my favorite!

  • @fulesmackofule
    @fulesmackofule 5 місяців тому

    I wish all videos would be like this on YT. Straight to the point, well demonstrated.
    I just have a hand router, but I'll figure out what to do based on this.

  • @arizonasundevil5128
    @arizonasundevil5128 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for yet another clear and thorough explanation. Everyone else makes things so complicated that you make so clear.

  • @jimanderson4495
    @jimanderson4495 3 роки тому

    What a Saturday morning.... sippin coffee and watchin Stumpy Nubs!

    • @jimanderson4495
      @jimanderson4495 3 роки тому

      P.S. I’ve used Whiteside for years. Top quality and Made in USA!

  • @briancole5828
    @briancole5828 3 роки тому +4

    The shop I'm at we use them mainly for beams especially rustic beams but we do a relief cut on the table saw at around 30 degrees to take the stress off the cut.

  • @chrisjacobs7434
    @chrisjacobs7434 3 роки тому +10

    Perfect example of referencing off your material. So much easier than spending time at a calculator pretending you're ready to teach algebra or trig.

  • @bdr4212
    @bdr4212 7 місяців тому +1

    I am a rookie when it comes to fine woodworking and got a lock-mitre bit in a set I just bought. I played with it a little. Your video really made it clear and easy to understand how to use it. Cheers!

  • @jonathanbrady3820
    @jonathanbrady3820 3 місяці тому

    Haven’t used my lock mitre but in a few years and was having difficulty setting up. Watched this and got it set in 1 min. Thx. Big fan of your videos, I even watch them when it’s not something I’m looking for or needing lol because they’re always so well presented.

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser 3 роки тому +20

    James -- Excellent instruction. One more tip for those new to these bits: Mill ALL the stock (plus a little extra) you will be using in your project at the same time. Even slight differences in stock thickness will result in a joint that does not fit properly.

    • @JeremyElliott
      @JeremyElliott 8 місяців тому +2

      Goes without saying that you should also mill your scrap lumber test pieces at the same time as your project workpieces.

  • @skyedangelo3237
    @skyedangelo3237 Рік тому

    Love hearing about family run brands to support, so often we rush to get the best bang for the buck not thinking of the cost this line of reasoning has.

  • @6ixfishing
    @6ixfishing Рік тому +4

    You are a phenomenal teacher and I appreciate your time in creating this resource. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli 3 роки тому +3

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @Kris-82
    @Kris-82 9 місяців тому

    Love your tips with router

  • @rosnyleroy1938
    @rosnyleroy1938 2 роки тому

    Very useful information. Thank you.

  • @Rjat96
    @Rjat96 3 місяці тому

    I just received my bits and they came with NO instructions or anything. This video will be very helpful. Thank you!

  • @bassoonman211
    @bassoonman211 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for explaining and the demo

  • @dalewilson4233
    @dalewilson4233 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for demystifying this exceptionally mysterious subject !

  • @thomasknox7724
    @thomasknox7724 2 роки тому

    Like you're clear sounding video. No echoes and no trying to talk over loud playing noise, so called music. I like making things out of wood for myself. Love watching your videos. Good job 👍

  • @MegaWeagle
    @MegaWeagle 3 роки тому

    I had never even heard of this but till just now. Not only do I want one but I believe I can use this bit flawlessly now!

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 3 роки тому +4

    I never even knew these were a thing! Very cool!

  • @daverothwell4579
    @daverothwell4579 3 роки тому +2

    Brilliant James! That is definitely the “least fussy” setup I’ve seen so I think I will finally invest in a pair of bits.

    • @rdwryr2000
      @rdwryr2000 3 роки тому

      Be sure to get quality bits. I bought two Chinese Cheapo bits on Amazon and it was a waste of money. The first had an odd size shank that wouldn't fit my collet and the second just tore the wood up no matter how careful I was.

  • @ironwood1621
    @ironwood1621 3 роки тому +2

    Just bought one of these and was pulling my hair out trying to do this. This video will definitely help me to do this correctly. Thank you.

  • @tiemann5
    @tiemann5 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video!

  • @gnic76
    @gnic76 3 роки тому +2

    That tip about taping an extra piece to the board for edge cutting made total sense. Thanks! I was having a problem with that, as the board on edge was exiting the bit and then moving around or dropping, as there wasn't any support for the sharp edge.

    • @reloadNshoot
      @reloadNshoot 3 роки тому

      Yes sir, the downside of using this type of bit it that it does remove some material off of the face it’s cutting. It’s a small amount but you loose the reference edge which lets the piece dive down resulting in a snipe at the end. Adding to the length of the board works to eliminate this as you simply cut the sniped piec off. Taping or hot gluing another reference edge works too.

  • @matthewson1000
    @matthewson1000 2 роки тому

    Thanks STUMPS!

  • @TeamProsperity
    @TeamProsperity 3 місяці тому

    So I noticed you made the horizontal and vertical cuts on the same piece of material and then rip to width, very nice I hadn’t considered doing that but sure make sense especially on narrower material you should point that out

  • @OldKam
    @OldKam 3 місяці тому

    Great video. Made my first box using the lock miter and it was dead on. Easy to follow instructions.

  • @oldsarge8608
    @oldsarge8608 3 роки тому

    Thanks Stumpy. This is the simplest way to set up the bit I’ve seen.

  • @conoverworkshops1486
    @conoverworkshops1486 Рік тому

    This was an exceptionally clear concise video with straightforward instructions. It was to the point without unnecessary side comments. It is also great fun to see the shop of someone that likes hand planes as much as I do. See you like Veritas planes too.

  • @bahlowme
    @bahlowme 8 місяців тому

    Great video and your right I'm scared to try this but feel like I can now. New follower.

  • @criswilson1140
    @criswilson1140 3 роки тому +11

    I never thought of doing both ends of the test piece and then cutting them apart to check the joint, I've just been using two test pieces. Thanks for that tip!

    • @chrisjacobs7434
      @chrisjacobs7434 3 роки тому +1

      Right? How many pieces of new knowledge can you shove into a quickie video?
      Stumpy Nubs: hold my kooshie'd can

    • @zapa1pnt
      @zapa1pnt 3 роки тому

      @@chrisjacobs7434: That sounds like something I, Really, don't want to do. 😲😳

  • @skygod7358
    @skygod7358 4 місяці тому

    Perfectly answered all of my questions. Thank you.

  • @brianbelliveau5551
    @brianbelliveau5551 2 роки тому

    Good job I don’t have a bit yet but. I want to get one thanks for the update

  • @raymontella2251
    @raymontella2251 3 роки тому +2

    They sell those little guide templates make it pretty easy to set up although there for a specific size stock. The hard part is standing the piece up on end. if I wanted to do the corners of a draw with a lock miter that’s a dangerous cut. you need to check to hold that piece of stock really tight. I’d love to see you do a lock miter on an end cut

  • @philclennell
    @philclennell 2 роки тому

    Had several moments with this cutter when I've not known whether to go up, down or sideways! Just be sure you have a mile of test pieces. But this tutorial helps - a little.

  • @stevesivell3224
    @stevesivell3224 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the tutorial

  • @stevebutler5256
    @stevebutler5256 2 роки тому

    You are always my go to guy when it comes to information and projects.

  • @j316finewoodworking6
    @j316finewoodworking6 3 роки тому +15

    You sound under the weather...hope everything is going well. I always find your videos useful.

    • @j316finewoodworking6
      @j316finewoodworking6 3 роки тому

      @@johnsrabe Yeah we got the same problem here in WV

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +13

      My voice is always a little rough when we film in the morning :)

    • @neumero4te
      @neumero4te 3 роки тому

      you got covid dude

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +5

      @@neumero4te No I don't, Dude.

    • @daifeichu
      @daifeichu 3 роки тому

      @@StumpyNubs I was thinking that that was your morning voice and then saw the cup of coffee. Mine sounds the same first thing.

  • @daveweigle4090
    @daveweigle4090 3 роки тому

    I agree set up blocks are a waste of money. I love lock miters and always use up a lot of scrap setting them up. This makes it so much easier. Thanks.

  • @gilvaes
    @gilvaes Рік тому

    Excellent video. Now I can adjust the bit with incredible simplicity.
    Thank you for the information.

  • @norm5785
    @norm5785 10 місяців тому

    Great video on how to set these bits properly

  • @kww9229
    @kww9229 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for simplifying the bit placement

  • @rudispruell883
    @rudispruell883 4 місяці тому

    James, I value your vids. I try to catch all of them, even on an aspect that I do not currently engage in. You teach ways of thinking, which is always beneficial. And, who knows, the need for the specific skill or information may arise, and I will have some familiarity and know a source for greater knowledge. Keep on keepin' on.
    ps- I have bought several recommended products, especially safety oriented ones.

  • @BillO964
    @BillO964 Рік тому

    I purchased a small cheap locking miter bit from Amazon. It is a pain in the but to set up and I never got it quite right for full 3/4 inch stock.
    Stumpy is absolutely correct on saying the larger sized bits are the way to go for anything over about 5/8”. I bet the large bits produce better results all the way around.
    When I feel rich I may try again. 😢
    Meanwhile I will stick to my old ways of joinery.

  • @Cigarholzworth
    @Cigarholzworth 2 роки тому

    Solid video, no fluff..excellent work

  • @geraldlalonde5992
    @geraldlalonde5992 Рік тому

    Very Helpful

  • @jeffmason398
    @jeffmason398 9 місяців тому

    Thank you James. I want to us some wenge to make a box. I like miter joints with splines, but in this case i just want to see wenge all around. However wenge is very oily and i suspect that it won't glue up very well. What to do? Then i remembered your vid. Well, i'm off to another technique. (Note to all: i've seen lots of vids on wenge dust being toxic and recommending a respirator. Splinters are bad too - very bad.)

  • @redrockcrf4663
    @redrockcrf4663 2 роки тому

    Great explanation

  • @lflsremodeling
    @lflsremodeling Рік тому

    Just made my first miter lock joint. Thank you for the straightforward video! Subscribed.

  • @cjm3508
    @cjm3508 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this!!!

  • @jamescole1786
    @jamescole1786 3 роки тому

    Excellent info on set-up of lock miter router bit. Oh, that's a mighty fine looking router table you are using! How about a little 'show & tell' on that...& previous router table?👨‍🔧 Thanks!

  • @MichaelHarmanWoodDesign
    @MichaelHarmanWoodDesign Рік тому

    So simple and the best instructions I have seen anywhere. So close on my first try I didn’t even adjust it since the fine corner will get sanded round.

  • @TheBuccy
    @TheBuccy 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant,thanks.

  • @usedcarsokinawa
    @usedcarsokinawa 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing the info in language that’s so easily understood.

  • @kenkroner3690
    @kenkroner3690 2 роки тому

    Best explanation i have ever seen. Thanks

  • @makermark67
    @makermark67 3 роки тому +1

    Great tip. Thanks for this, James.

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 3 роки тому

    Thanks James. This is going to make setting these bits up a lot easier for me.

  • @Ferndalien
    @Ferndalien 3 роки тому

    Thank you, Mr. Hamilton. This is one of the clearest explanations for how to set up a locking miter bit that I have seen or read. I have a locking miter bit, I needed one to make a hollow square beam, and even with the manufacturer's directions, which basically said buy our setup tab, I couldn't figure out. After a lot of fiddling and a number of test cuts I got it as close to right as I thought I could get it and made the cuts. They weren't exact, but I was able to hide the small error by rounding off the corners.

  • @kristopherklein1393
    @kristopherklein1393 2 роки тому

    Great video.

  • @DanHoke
    @DanHoke 3 роки тому

    You feeling ok? I hope so. Love your work. Stay strong.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому

      My voice sounds a little raspy whenever we film early in the morning :)

  • @bruce-le-smith
    @bruce-le-smith 3 роки тому

    Thank you James, this is very very helpful

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 3 роки тому +3

    Although I’m familiar with another set up process I like yours better. Great tips James. Thanks for your work on making this video.

  • @skillcollector9800
    @skillcollector9800 3 роки тому +3

    I was just thinking about getting some of these, perfect timing!

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing with James! Great information. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋

  • @vincentpotter5721
    @vincentpotter5721 2 роки тому

    I love your workshop I’m thinking of getting one of those router tables

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking 3 роки тому

    Can confirm, whiteside bits ARE awesome. If you are someone who just got a router and started out with one of those lower priced ($40-$75+) variety sets, I highly suggest replacing the ones you actually use with Whiteside bits one at a time. You probably won't find that you use a lot of them if you are a hobbyist, so you don't need to go replace them all at once. But as you use some of them more and more, spend the extra bit - no pun intended, well, some intention - to get a Whiteside replacement. I was doing a lot of box joints with my cheapo 1/4 straight bit, and I finally upgraded to a spiral upcut bit (RU-4700 iirc), and it was a night and day difference.

  • @jeffcantor3298
    @jeffcantor3298 3 роки тому

    Perfect timing. I'm about to start my first project using lock miters. Thanks!!

  • @henrysiegertsz8204
    @henrysiegertsz8204 3 роки тому

    Beautifully simple explanation!

  • @jackchappell001
    @jackchappell001 3 місяці тому

    I see you're using the Sawstop lift. I'm in the process of finding a nice router table, lift, fence, and the router itself. Would you please tell me what you are using for these? Thanks, your help is very much appreciated.

  • @mhstretch
    @mhstretch 3 роки тому

    I like your presentation very much. Infinity makes a lock mitre master jig which is a small magnetic device which shows the centre for both vertical and horizontal. I have used it for about a year and found that it makes alignment correct the first time almost every time. It is what your video shows but without the centerline guess work. Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. This is not a set up block, but rather an aluminium piece held on to the bit by magnetism, which extends the center lines for easier alignment.

  • @richragan4810
    @richragan4810 3 роки тому

    Great instruction on such a misunderstood bit James. Thank you!

  • @cobberpete1
    @cobberpete1 3 роки тому

    I gave up on the lock miter bit years ago. Had so much trouble with them. Maybe I should try again

  • @biodynamichawaii
    @biodynamichawaii Рік тому

    Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @profcah
    @profcah 3 роки тому

    Absolutely a fantastic tutorial! Great job!

  • @Sawblade02
    @Sawblade02 3 роки тому

    Nice, I've been on the fence with getting those bits for a couple of years.

  • @richardsorge-
    @richardsorge- 3 роки тому

    Very useful tip. Also Bill Hylton in his " woodworking with the router " book gives a good method for adjusting this tricky bit;

  • @JT_70
    @JT_70 3 роки тому

    I bought one of those bits and some nylon set-up blocks a number of years ago but have never tried using them. Had great plans but never got back to them.

  • @codigitty9195
    @codigitty9195 3 роки тому

    Wow. I just got one of these and was planning on setting it up today. Amazing timing on the video!

  • @tracyligon2914
    @tracyligon2914 Рік тому

    Thank you, I had a cheap set and followed your directions. They worked just fine and the ends looked super. Now to get a better lock miter bit! The cheap ones were ok but the joints were not very snug on the inside edges. (No more cheap bits!) These were on 1/2" box sides. No setup blocks needed with your method!

  • @drewmobley3924
    @drewmobley3924 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your awesome videos, it is clear you really take your time and have great pride in them.

  • @haskelloness379
    @haskelloness379 3 роки тому

    Thanks again for a informative show

  • @allthegear-noidea1264
    @allthegear-noidea1264 3 роки тому

    It’s like you know what I’m working on and struggling with! Thanks so much!

  • @dominicdiclemente8877
    @dominicdiclemente8877 3 роки тому

    Great timing, I am about to order my lock miter bit

  • @gordroberts53
    @gordroberts53 3 роки тому

    Thanks James. I bought a small one a while back but have yet to put it to use. Part of my reluctance stems from several safety warnings about the 1/4" shank ones failing under load, the other part was trying to decipher what I could find on line about the product. As usual, you completely demystify the process. Will be buying a 1/2" shank one soon, the corner joint quality is very attractive to me.

  • @adama1294
    @adama1294 3 роки тому

    Good simple setup.

  • @Roman-hx3qj
    @Roman-hx3qj 2 місяці тому

    Excellent

  • @the.modern.unconventional
    @the.modern.unconventional 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome! I especially love the method you used to both set up the height of the bit and fence positioning. I wonder, are there other methods of bit set up as intuitive as this?

  • @toonybrain
    @toonybrain 3 роки тому

    This is a timely video as I had just purchased these router bits in both sizes. The package came, I opened it, then I shuffled the bits off to the side - intimidated by what I imagined to be a very daunting setup.
    Thank you for this to-the-point, clear explanation with good visuals.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 3 роки тому

    Pretty interesting indeed, dude! 😃
    Thanks a lot for all the tips!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊