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@@Roylamx given how well known the story is, but pruned to display only bits and pieces in order to promote an agenda, it was needed imo. It's purposefully at the end though if anyone doesn't want to hear it, you don't have wade through my thoughts. Hopefully that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
Don't know if your familiar with the dyatlov pass and the khamar daban hiker tragedies but they are very similar both from Russia the dyatlov pass was no survivors but the khamar daban incident one girl survived and she won't talk of it again she's still alive and when found and saved by kayakers and put in hospital she told what happened how they all but her went insane from possibly a soup they made from mushrooms and other plants they got. From the mountains she didn't eat the soup and tells of her friends biting and chewing the shrubs and dirt banging their heads on the ground on hands and knees and pulling up small trees and things. Very very similar to your story ......check them out . Isn't Russia along the same geographic lines and similar to Alaskan climate and animals and plants? Could be the answers to the stories.
Thanks for providing a common sense, non-paranormal, non-cryptid possible explanation for some of these sightings. If anyone cares about the actual science of proving Bigfoot is real, you have to apply these "litmus tests" of reality to every single story and encounter tale. Without this process it makes a mockery of research and people that actually do care about whether this thing is real or not and do not secretly consider it a joke. A large number of people who claim they "believe in Bigfoot" don't do this at all and then get angry if you offer a common sense explanation. Some of those are the worst.
@@NathanTarantlawriter Thank you very much, I try so hard to do a good job. And I couldn't agree more, it's a serious problem and I'm hoping a more scientific viewpoint - and manner of discussing this topic - will take hold over the next few years. The paranormal viewpoints can be understandable on a surface level, but they don't hold up and only make people want to toss the topic of Bigfoot aside and not take it seriously. Sometimes, I almost wonder if there is a conspiracy to cover-up the existence of Bigfoot, but it's done by those who love paradolia and make all sorts of "woo-woo" claims in an effort to make science leave the topic alone. It's hard not to wonder some days lol! I think there's a lot of very genuine and sincere people who promote those theories, but I also think there are quite a few people who, at the very least, think it's a joke and like manipulating people. I hope I'm wrong about that last one. Anyway, thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them!
I worked at Thomas bay doing tree thinning when I was was a teenager in 1978..Used to keep beer cold in Patterson river. The old lumberjacks used to draw pictures of the creatures described in this story. Ive always wanted to go back and see that country again and the results of my work.
Awesome, well welcome to the channel! If you don't mind me asking: did you get the feeling that the people up there believed what happened or were there a lot of people who seemed to doubt it? It sounds like a very interesting place to say the least. Thanks!
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel Thry definitely believed in the creatures The Indians called them akushtaka I noticed a lot of orange in some of the creeks when can be a sign of arsenic Maybe the gold hunters long ago had arsenic in their blood which might explain the strange things they described . I used to stay in the forest 2 weeks at a time Had a portable shower out there and cooked on a woodstove I remember 2 glaciers in the area and there were a lot of deer and moose which doesn't match the story but that was 70 years before I was there. Lots of berries and devils club bushes and lots of grouse Mostly spruce and Alder Under the uncut forest the ground is most moss. A lot of people get lost in that area. We found a few guys wondering around yelling for a rescue Bush planes crashed in the forest and can't find them
I'm glad you shared that with me, thank you! It sounds like you've had some great experiences. The arsenic is interesting as well, that could very well be a root cause for some of the things they experienced. It's sad to hear about how many people go missing out there though
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel The owner of the gas station in Petersburg gave us a crab pot we used to catch King Crab in the bay. Also caught Halibut from a canoe, King Salmon from the shore. I didn't think to look for gold but we were in that gold area. We actually found a lost guy out by the Patterson river.
Our family has lived in Petersburg, Alaska since 1917. We've spent a lot of time in and around Thomas Bay. My great grandfather had many stories of the area. I've enjoyed this story since early childhood. Thanks for sharing it with the world.
@@burtonupchurch1690 Yes. The lakes are well known. My great-great grandfather logged the area from 1918 to 1921 (approx). My dad and I hunted moose over there in the late 70's and early 80's. There are people homesteading over there now. The Patterson Glacier, lake, and river are rugged and beautiful. I don't have any good (unusual) stories of the area. It can be eerily quiet at times...absolutely silent.
I once went camping alone in the Big Thicket of East Texas. It’s easy for imagination to run wild in such a creepy lonely place. One night I woke up to the strangest animal sounds and rocks being thrown at my tent. I just sat inside and lacked the guts to see what it was. Somethings are better left unseen.
"It seemed as if someone or something with the menacing disposition was right behind me all the time, and that there were hundreds of angry eyes watching me." What a great description!
@@davidmoore1477 I can never call another human a liar when they say they saw something anymore. I have seen and encountered a sasquatch in the wilderness, and i can remember it as vividly as if it happened 5 minutes ago. We need to start believing our fellow humans, instead of automatically calling them liars
@steviechampagne spot on, my encounter happened on June 6 1979 about 19:30, My friend told me of a Black belt instructor had a run-in with one around a apple tree, drop his gun, ran for his life, had to get his friends and their mother, too drive back up there to the Apple tree to retrieve his rifle...never been out again to hunt...35 /45 years ago. When a person tells you what has happened, you can see it in the face and eyes, it took me 42 years to tell my best friend, he knows it the truth, because he was there the next morning.
@@davidmoore1477 You probably should automatically disbelieve other people's "experiences". I can't tell you how many times someone came to me telling me in a matter of fact way how they just encountered a skinwalker down the street. A skinwalker is a type of medicine man of the Dine (Navajo Tribe) and you will only run into them on the Navajo reservation which is a good 2 or 3 day drive going 70 mph to the west of where I live. Yet people claim they saw a skinwalker just down the street... Yeah, everyone needs a healthy dose of disbelief when it comes to the paranormal. Too many fraudsters, to many people misatributing things they saw or simply don't have a clue what their yammering on about. And this coming from a guy who has years worth of unexplainable paranormal sightings.
Pretty intriguing story. The details and interaction between the characters give it the air of truth. Maybe some geologic anomaly that affects the brain? Strange. P.S. I live in Montana. The outdoors has been a big part of my 59 Years. I almost always go it alone and have spent countless nights in the mountains of the west, Sierra Nevada and desert southwest. I don't scare easy. In the fall of 1992 I was in the Saphire range, one range east of the Bitterroots, when I had an experience that made every hair on my body stand up and sent me packing. Like to share it with you sometime if your interested.
Possibly. I forgot to point out what was said about the magnetic rock. There was an episode of Missing in Alaska about that. It was really interesting. Anyways, thanks for watching!
I first heard this story about “Half-Moon Lake” and the horrible monsters at least FORTY YEARS ago, from a school friend about ten years old, same age I was then. So evidently this school friend was very well read, and recalled enough specific details about this story, and communicated them well enough to me, verbally, that I can confirm this is the story I heard. Haunting!
That's awesome! Story telling is difficult, especially when it comes to the details. Being able to not just remember those details, but also communicate them at 10 is awesome! Good for him.
"The Jackle" aka DogMan does fit alot better than BF... And BF does not like Jackles... They will not live in the same area. Racoon hands is what Dogman is said to have.. Long fingers and long craws... Just a thought...
@@nugsymalone1247 It was surprising to see so many homeless there- it’s a small town. they acted especially creepy and aggressive. Worse even than our California tweakers!
What I find very interesting is the strong magnetic field driving even the compass daft!!. Perhaps the whole place is an enigma, a huge puzzle waiting to be solved. In some parts of the Scottish Highlands I have Heard of small aircraft flying low, had their in flight compass go radio rental!! Mental. Great story, we must keep all options open and respect the Great Outdoors, Especially Mother Nature.
Thank you for reading a great story. I'm recovering from a fall so had a beautiful day listening. Love everything alaska! Wish 8 could get back to it!!!
Very balanced and interesting. you never claimed to have all the answers and gave an historical context for your suggestions and theories. Thought-provoking and informed. Thank you
I wonder how many other people did a double take when he said something like they stopped at McDonald island for breakfast. Trading post, missions, fur trapping company forts and the good old golden arches were key in settling the wilds of the Rockies and surrounding areas of Canada and America.
I remember this pamphlet making the rounds at a fish camp I worked at in SE Alaska 40 years ago. Everyone had their own theory as to what happened. There are so many stories of high strangeness that the natives tell up there - mainly involving the Kushtika (sp?). I'm so glad to find this here!
That's interesting, I've heard some very spooky things about the Kushtaka. Not a friendly being. Glad to hear that the Natives have their own stories and its not just made up for this book. Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you have a good rest of your week!
When I lived in Sitka I heard about Devils Thumb which is near Thomas Bay. I heard that it was cursed, and you should not even spend a night there. Nothing of detail, but something very bad would happen to you. Thanks for telling this storyl
Your welcome, thank you! And that's interesting, I'm glad to hear that the locals actually say those sorts of things about the area and its not just a spooky fictional piece in the book. Thank you for sharing!
Consider reading "Bigfoot Exposed - The Nermanuh People" and learn a bit about these truly amazing people. They are usually to be found at Devil's/bear/diablo - something.
This was a great story! I really enjoyed hearing you read it, as well as, being able to see the written text. Please keep up the great work! Be well and stay safe! 😊💖🙏
I’ve spent a lot of time in the woods over my seventy plus years, going from the days of wool blankets and coal oil lanterns to much more modern equipment the past fifty years or so. Anyone who’s actually spent time out in the wild will admit that odd things happen out there, and strange feelings, thoughts and fears can come creeping in.
The Chinese immigrant idea explains why they didn't catch. Either they didn't want to hurt him or were so malnourished that they used up all their energy running up the valley wall
Consider reading "Bigfoot Exposed - The Nermanuh People" and learn a bit about these truly amazing people. They are prohibited by their laws and religion from hurting humans but they love to scare us.
Love the Indian flute and the Mark Twain quote. So then i saw Big Foot and was going somewhere else, when I realized you were reading a real story. So i gave it a listen. You read very well and the document was very interesting. It did get me wondering 🤷🏻♀️ The research you did was fascinating - the molds and those poor lost men ! So good job on really trying to find out what happened. People who go off on their own sometimes do end up missing here and there. They get lost or hurt and are never found. That’s what happened to Ötzi who fell into that mountain crevasse thousands of years ago. 🧗🏻♂️🌷🌱
New subscriber. Love finding a whole new cache of stories to listen to. I appreciated your commentary at the end. Thank you and I hope your channel is thriving. ♥️
The magnetic effects of the iron load in the terrain was screwing with their heads. If the Chinese did make it to land here without knowledge of the area, common local language, or a boat to use in any moment of sensibility, they could have lost it fast and never had a chance to escape.
@arecane2000 hmm. New one to me and suprised with it at that. Not saying anything otherwise. I believe it could be ..... I have allways considered the strange behaviors to be from the sasquatch or what other malevolent beings they happened upon up there as many of these things have highly developed or high functioning Psyche abilities and are known to seriously mess with us when they choose to do so. Infrasound too .... likely things I have no idea about yet. But the geology thing is interesting thank you for sharing that.
My dad had this book, and I first read it as a teen. I'm a lifelong SE Alaska, and the idea that Chinese immigrants would be completely new to an adult American prospector in 1900 Petersburg is implausible, let alone the suggestion that mountain goats could be domesticated and managed as heard by a shepherd.
It’s an interesting story, thanks for taking the time to read it and to share those other details. One thing that catches my attention from the story was the behavior of the compass. Perhaps that area has strange magnetic fields, which, if you listen to accounts of the paranormal, can give that eerie type of feeling or like you’re being watched. It could be a combination of things, magnetic fields, mold, etc. Plus, imagine if that’s true and you were a stranded Chinese shipwreck survivor and you’re being affected by these environmental things for who knows how long…could explain their odd behavior, if that’s what it was that the one man saw.
100%. In fact, I just had a comment from a gentleman who lived in Petersburg and he said him and his dad landed on black sand beaches where there were small particles of iron that it affected the compass of the airplane. You're definitely onto something there. Thanks for watching and stopping by!
Reminds me of the stories of the headless valley in Canada. Rumors of gold and Wookie's. People ending up dead or nutty. Where there are rich resources, these things seem to roost. Great video.
It's interesting the headless valley story has bee popping up allot lately I only heard it for first time a few months ago which is surprising I'm pretty well-versed in all of the tales and stories like that and it's so good I'm surprised I hadn't heard it earlier
Consider reading "Bigfoot Exposed - The Nermanuh People" and learn a bit about these truly amazing people. Legends are they were and are living in Headless Valley and they did the deeds.
They said that their compass would point all over. Maybe the environment messed with their reasoning. Even the one that wrote the story, when he went with the Norwegian man, thought that they had only spent the night there but the other guy said that they were there for two weeks. Somebody in the town should've known how long they were actually gone. Sounds like a pretty strange place. In the bermuda triangle. Don't they sometimes have compass trouble?
I bought the book several years ago (I live in Petersburg, Alaska. Been in Thomas Bay many times. I always have an eerie feeling when going in the bay.
If you'd ever like to share your stories please feel free to send them to me at idahobigfootchannel@gmail.com , if not I understand but honestly I'd love to hear them! I've been watching some things about Momo recently, there are some incredible encounters out there! Anyway, I hope you have a good rest of your week
New subscriber. Just listened to your channel for the first time. Well done, well told and you have a great voice. I have heard parts of this story before but not nearly as well told or as comprehensive as you told it. Looking forward to binging your channel.
The point of creatures like gorillas retaining thick fur is to protect the skin surface from wounds. Humans wear clothes to compensate for the lack of natural fur. Humans have been wearing animal skins including from goats for thousands of years. So the explanation given would make sense. There have been more recent cases of campers in remote areas suddenly exhibiting bizarre behavior, there was one from Russia for instance, put down the effects of poisons or hallucinogens in the environment. So again I think the explanation offered would make perfect sense.
The theory of the ship wrecked Chinese doesn't make sense to me. If these prospectors were leaving tents and supplies, hungry humans would have taken advantage of such resources. MRSA is a relatively new development, not one of the late 1800's. Humans are smart. There was mention of settlers in the area. Tjose hungry Chinese would have gone to the homesteads for help. As town was only several days journey, they would have followed the streams to settlements. They would have stuck closer to shore awaiting another ship and using the shore for seafood and firewood. I just don't see it.
The problem l have with this story is the absence of " Bears " after so many journeys into that area there's no mention of encountering Bears , Alaska is known for having grizzlies, brown bears and even polar bears
Great take on the story. I talked to a geologist about the story years ago. His theory was that arsenic in the water may be the culprit. In Southeast Alaska mineral rich areas contain arsenic. After hearing the stories the men could have been primed to the halutions. The exception would be the trapper and his dog. Several people I know in that area have reported to have seen something resembling big foot.
Great story, it would be cool to have an old copy. Idaho is the most beautiful state I've ever seen. Although this story doesn't have a true feel to it or at least the man who wrote it wasn't there and may have filled in many details which is most likely, in that case it may very well have been true. Thank you.
When I listened to this story, the movie the 13th Warrior came to mind. Those indigenous people that wore bear hides with the skulls intact. The legend of those people had them (Vikings) all talking like they were some other-worldly creatures. A great story regardless. Thank you!
Great video; I had heard about this book before (and the basic outline of the story), but was not familiar with the shipwrecked Chinese goat-herder theory. It makes sense, especially if it were confirmed that the shipwreck happened. This Chinese goat-herders don't necessarily negate sasquaches in the area, especially with the report that mentioned the footprint with the mid-tarsal break (which doubtful would have been a detail turn-of-the-century gold panners would have known about). Thanks for taking the time to make the video!
You did a great job with the story and you had me on the first chapter. Yes it is very intriguing. You made some very good points. One will never know. Thank you again for your time I enjoyed it when is the next one?
Glad you enjoyed it! I did just post a video on my other channel, Jep's Outdoor Adventures, of a story I read that, isn't mysterious like this one, but still is a very interesting story about Wolverines. It does talk about the myths surrounding different animals and how they form. I'm also working on another video I'll let you know when that's done 👍
May I ask if you are referring to Bigfoot, Dogmen or something else please? Thanks! (I ask because your last comment mentioned Dogmen and I don't watch Sasquatch chronicles much, so I don't know if they've talked about more than just Sasquatch)
🇬🇧 NB, this is a long comment so don't read it you hate long ones, don't complain This certainly was an intriguing case story. It seems John had some definite fixation about this area he describes as Devils Country. Whatever was or was not there, it seems John wasn't directly affected somehow which is also odd, seeing as every single person who went with him or to those he directed to this place, were in some way, shape or form adversely affected. Your synopsis at the end was very interesting! Re; the Chinese immigrants, but in those times, many Chinese were brought in all over the States to work railroads, factories, Canneries, so I'm sure travellers must have seen plenty of Chinese folk. As I thought about this mysterious tale, I thought about the effects of poisons, naturally occuring, but maybe the Chinese had some Opium & upon burning the Opium resin, could fumes have had an effect on the Prospectors? What if the Chinese ( or other) were working there themselves, finding Gold & wanting it to stay secret? By dressing up & making strange noises, causing hallucinatory fumes to affect infiltrators & Setting up other novel ways of scaring off interlopers? We know how clever the Chinese were in creating illusionary Spec f/x, smoke & mirrors quite literally. Maybe they made scary masks, used resins dyed red & smeared on their skin & rubbed on offensive smelling plants etc to look as repulsive as possible as if covered in sores & pustules? If they did, well then, it worked! If the Chinese or whoever, had discovered a rich seam of gold or some other precious metals, & they',d set up a good mining system, they wouldn't want to share. Best deterrent would be to scare, impressionable & superstitious prospectors off, and STAY off. I remember reading early explorers like Marco Polo, describing the most amazing inventions by the Chinese. They had a vast knowledge of pharmaceutical medications & preparations & sly secretive ways to induce hallucinations & their firework displays of sky dragons were marvelled at by Europeans. I think the answer to this story is somewhere along these lines. I think a veritable gold mine was discovered & those who had it, had no intention of sharing After repeated ( mainly by John...lol) Attempts to prospect A way was needed to Divert & scare off, permanently, any prospectors so they upped the ante & scared off everyone. Btw, the medieval Chinese had discovered that certain sounds or frequencies produced a range of feelings in people There is one frequency ( discovered recently that produces fear in people,) it's a low khz one & scientists think something produces this natural Khz & causes people to feel fear, being watched, hearing auditory hallucinations & seeing " ghosts" Anyway, I've rambled on enough, does anyone else think my theory may be feasible? Thank you for this video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Peace 🇬🇧🙋
I was friends with Virginia as well as her brother Doug and and Marcel Colp of Fairbanks. I visited her in Petersburg, Alaska during Christmas of 2008. She told me the ending of the story that was never put in the book. It involved a family that homesteaded on Muddy Creek near what is now known as Harry D Colp Island., formerly known as Ruth Island as noted in story. I would love to share this and I can prove it easily. See Doug Colp, Memorial UAF. Also see KOYUKUK MONSTER which happened on Doug’s mining property on South Fork Koyukuk River as mentioned in his UAF memorial. GHD RESOURCES.
Sorry for the late reply but I tried looking for what you described but Google never showed anything about what you described. I hate asking, but if you have the links could you please share them with me? This isn't the first time Google has given me problems, maybe they'll still show up for you. Thank you! PS: I live in a cellphone challenged area, so I can only communicate via the internet at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience
Cool story! I'm wanting to ask a question, in the hopes that perhaps you or one of your viewers had heard this story. I've been trying to find it without success for years now. A man tells a story of when he was a boy, going to visit his grandma who lived in a remote cabin. One day out looking for berries he explores beyond his grandma's directives and finds a small grave/cemetery. He is then assumed to have been followed back to his Grandma's house by a bigfoot type creature. His Grandma is aware of this creatures existence. She yells out at the creature about the boy not being whom the creature thinks him to be (his deceased uncle from memory) Any leads to finding this story would be appreciated. 🤩
I heard that one also but can't remember for the life of me were. I think it was a.from a collection of scars Appalachian stories. Maybe Darkness prevails .
I may have missed it, but I don't remember him describing the size of the creatures chasing him. It seems like if it was a bigfoot, he would have mentioned their size.
It's interesting i have spent a lot of time in the woods and have been in places that made my hair stand on end and wonted to get out asap and it was a struggle to get to a place where i felt ok again. there are places where we have no business going too.
I sorry you had to deal with that, that feeling truly is horrible. Glad you are alright though, that's good. I wonder how many Missing 411 people had that feeling but shrugged it off. Bottom line: trust your gut. As you well know, if something feels wrong you need to get out of dodge. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I hope you have a good rest of your week!
Nice. Yep ..... Subscribed before you began speaking. This is top level materials here I love this account. I was born and live in Idaho's first Capitol ..... ( technically across the river in WA ..... but I can see Idaho across the river right outside the window .....if I wear a hoody and some shades and don't draw attention to myself nobody will ever know =] . )
I lived in Petersburg in the 80s and my dad had a Cessna 180. We landed on beaches in Thomas bay and found the many “black sand” beaches interesting. They were small particles of iron of such volume that it affected the compass of the airplane. Other than that we never found anything out of the ordinary but enjoyed the book.
That is incredible, thank you for sharing! I think the magnetism could have been a big reason for the strange mental state of some of the members involved in this story. Thanks again and I hope you have a good week!
Just found your channel. Love stories like this. I have an experience from last June in western MT on the Clark fork river. It was a crazy week of camping. My wife didn’t believe in bf in any way until this trip. Now she isn’t so sure, haha. I caught some audio too. If interested, let me know and I can share the story.
Never heard the whole story, thanks for sharing the full story. I knew there had to be more to it than just the one guy going nuts. It's possible the magnetism caused them problems thinking: if it was Stromboli enough in the area. Compounded with the mold, there's no telling what type of effects the combination could have had in a person's mind.
Yeah, no problem! I know a few people have quoted the passage about being chased by the creatures and claimed that "it was Bigfoot!", but it does not appear that way once you hear the full story and get the context of what happened. At least to me. And I agree, I think you're right. The fact that magnetism can affect us is both interesting and scary.
I lived off grid in the Bitterroots for 20 years. Walked the woods ...never had a problem. Only once ( that I know of) have I encountered the forest man. I was resting in a shady glade...shut my eyes for a bit...when I opened them..50 or so feet away..behind in the trees..way up higher than a man....he was smiling at me.
My property borders The Great Smoky Mountains national park and many times when I am out I feel something watching me I have lived here 56 years and I have heard sounds from things I cannot identify and had many pets and livestock taken perhaps wildcats
So sorry about your loss of your animals. I wanted to suggest another great channel that tells tales from your area. It's South Force 10. I hope you enjoy!
My brother is near newport years ago had large hogs killed we didn't understand how a bear lifted a jog over the fence without breaking it down more than it did, also a guy that was moved in his sleeping bag overnight
Consider reading "Bigfoot Exposed - The Nermanuh People" and learn a bit about these truly amazing people. Most of this was written in the foothills of the Smokies.
Wow! I read a book years ago. I can't recall title or author, but, I have remembered this from it. "In Canada and Alaska ther are still vast areas of unexplored wilderness, where nameless men by nameless rivers wander, and in strange valleys die strange deaths alone"
That's quite the quote! I think I found it: "In Canada and Alaska there are still large expanses of virgin country Where nameless men by the nameless rivers wander and in strange valleys die strange deaths alone." That was in “Wilderness” from A Sand County Almanac and Sketches Here and There, Oxford University Press, 1949, written by Aldo Leopold. I also found "Ballads of a Cheechako by Robert W. Service To the Man of the High North" which said: "The nameless men who nameless rivers travel, And in strange valleys greet strange deaths alone" written in 1909.
Two things. Firstly; this link takes you to a story that, if you enjoyed this, might be up your alley ( ua-cam.com/video/d6iXxmCA-zM/v-deo.html ). It's about Wolverines, written by Russell Annabel. He was praised by Ernest Hemingway as the best outdoor writer. I think you'd like it. I uploaded it to my other channel "Jep's Outdoor Adventures" And if anyone wants me to read their story, (fyi, it must be real!) please send it to idahobigfootchannel@gmail.com or message me on my Instagram page "idaho_bigfoot": instagram.com/idaho_bigfoot/ I hope everyone enjoys today's video!
@@TheTallhillbilly Mr. Ballen takes stories from everyone now, and just retells them. , often giving no credit to the original researcher. He no longer does his own research.
@@Mach11976 thanks! And yeah, if you can find it I'd appreciate it. I searched for anything related to this and only found one badly edited video and that was it lol
Strong magnetic fields can affect the brain, often inducing feelings of dread and paranoia. If these guys were sleeping on the ground their heads could have been bathing in such a field for hours. Combine that with adding the wrong kind of mushroom the their diet (because they're sick of repetitive meals)*, and the temporary insanity they experienced could be explained. * Side note: who gets fed up of bacon? Seriously!
Interestingly you mentioned quartz, iron ore and salt water. One of Teslas concepts for free energy used a system of tunnels in series that would separate salt water. The salt particles in h20 cause electrons to jump through a conductive surface. The water flows through varying series of piping. Which can also happen with ground water that runs through granite. This may result in a direct electrical current. Massive amounts of iron ore under pressure(earths weight) would result in a large magnetic field Quarts has a unique property in that it is piezoelectric. Piezoelectric means electricity resulting from pressure and latent heat. All 3 forms of energy could have created strong radiant fields that may result have resulted in a temporary altered state or psychosis. Just a thought.
I listened to the story again, and I picked out another detail. Another word mentioned often in the story was mold. It is now believed that the witches of Salem that had fits in front of the puritan courts actually had ergot poisoning. It could be possible that some type of mold was ingested resulting in ergot poisoning, or other toxin ingestion in that area resulting in a temporary psychosis. A great mentor once taught me while reading personal accounts or testimonies of people to first focus on words of substance that are mentioned the most, to try to pick out themes before reading the content.
Evidently that part of Alaska is like many places on Earth ,Baciu forest ,Skinwalker Ranch , Black Mountain in Australia ,countless others which seem to be places ,inhabited by the Demonic and they dont want humans there for various reasons [have my own opinion on why ] I dont believe it was Ergot or moss or anything like that but possession ,I have felt that menacing ,creepiness and terror before ,many times along with weird things happening ,and pressure ,unbelievable pressure from inimical entities ,I believe the ''Devils'' were the ship wrecked Chinese who were desperate of course to return to civilization ,but not goat skins as you would need a rifle and i doubt they were armed or unlikely knew how to use a rifle ,maybe skins [goat or Deer etc]that were on board the shipwreck ,good video ,heard that story before but good to hear again !
Thank you for watching, and stopping by. I know what you're talking about. I have felt that presence - deep overwhelming malevolence that makes the room feel heavy and causes a primal panic to overwhelm you. I fully believe that demonic beings exist, and I can see where you're coming from with this. It could very well be. Part of the reason why I don't discuss dogmen much is because I don't think they can exist biologically, and given how people claim they felt when they saw one... I think they are demonic in origin. With that being said, you could be right about a dogman -type entity killing that man. Messing with people before hurting them would align in my eyes. I like to explain everything in a more biological/scientific manner, but I'm open to other possibilities. Just my two cents! Thanks again, and I hope you have a good rest of your day!
Seems your surmise is right: A terrible incident of foreign men tragically unable to be recognized as human, in a time when few people had experienced other cultures. Probably not psychotropic; they need time to enter the bloodstream. Thanks for your reading.
That's ridiculous. If men had the wherewithal to emigrate then they would be able to find their way to civilization even just by following prospectors. It's also not true that people had not experienced other cultures in 1900.
Chinese immigrants could also explain the one in the boat yelling at the prospector as he rowed away. A stranded immigrant could have made it to the boat first and once in would not get out. And they kept shouting at the guy rowing away to turn back and get the others, but he didn't understand Chinese.
Sounded like the place had some pretty strong magnetism, the compass jumping around and such. This can mess with you brain, which could explain some of the craziness and why some were effected more than others.
I always thought the original story was BS and Charlie just double backed or went back to the states to get family for the “outfit.” Regardless, I always assumed he lied and the point was to keep the find for himself. I for my part have a hard time trusting the motives of random gold prospectors from the world over who were desperate or desirous enough to make the long journey to Alaska for riches. For a man to believe in something like “devils” there, is just madness yet that has to be what was at the back of their minds when they actually were at the strike and going to start mining. They let “shaking bushes” scare them off of enough money to live forever on!?! Alaskan gold prospectors? No. They either found nothing and this is just a tall tale about the riches that could have been or it’s some mix of lying prospectors doubling back along filtered through scared superstitious people. My last question would be is that region fully developed today? If so has there ever been any archeological finds in the area or evidence of those ship wrecked people? If it hasn’t ever been settled, let’s go get the gold lolol
It's still a very wild area to this day from what I gather, so you'll have to work for it lol! That's an interesting thought though, thank you for sharing. Personally, I believe it's a legit story. The reason I say that is because if they felt like he (Charlie) was lying in any way, I highly doubt they would have covered it up. You just don't do that, especially to your business partners. I feel word would have gotten around if he was a slimebag, and they wouldn't have trusted him to go there all alone if that's the kind of character he was. Besides, Harry went back several times and never suspected that Charlie lied or came back to steal the gold for himself. If any serious mining was done, he probably would have figured that out. And if they were all in on it, as far as I can tell, no rumors were spread and the family was well respected. I think if they were inclined to lie, word would have spread. I don't know, It's a nice thought at least. And seeing bushes move can get your nerves on end, but the distinct feeling of something malevolent staring you down that hates you is a very different thing. I know, because I've felt it and hope I never do again. Just my two cents. I would love to know for sure though!
If we take these men for their word, then it wasn't just "shaking bushes" that scared them off by itself. They were getting visits at night at their camp, etc. They had no idea how long it was going to take them to find enough gold to make it worth it to stay up there. It could have been weeks, months, or years of work up there just turn a profit, let alone find enough gold to be rich enough to live forever on. They already had a daunting task of travel to this remote area and worrying about survival in general, on top of needing to put in actual prospecting work. A few freaky bigfoot experiences would be enough to break anyone's will on top of all of that. I think that part of the story checks out.
Cool video. 'Happiness' is one of those relative words, meaning what makes one person happy, doesn't work for the next. I am a sane man who is happy, for I know (and practice) that I am not in control, shit happens, for a reason or not, so I I find happiness in the peace knowing that there ain't shit I can do about things I can't control.
Portlock Alaska seems to be the creepiest place. Finding dead hunters bodies ripped apart would spook anyone that hunts in Alaska. Maybe a grizzly, but one that rips a human apart and dumps their bodies by a river stream seems awfully dangerous and uncharacteristic of a grizzly bear attack.
Good story but what about the scratches on Charlie's back? He said the scratched him repeatedly. Surely they would have mentioned seeing them or Charlie would have shown them and had it recorded.
That's a good point. Although he did say he didn't want any questions to be asked and just wanted to tell his story and leave, didn't sound like he was too excited to show them something like that. I wish he did though!
I know monster quest or a similar show did an episode about Alaskan Devil monkeys. As far as I can remember they didn't even mention this account and only covered encounters in the last 40yrs or so & in some of the acounts they were talking to live surviving witnesses. Other accounts were of other ppl who mysteriously vanished I the same location as the surviving witnesses story. I'm nor sure what part of Alaska these happened in & if they were close to these locations. The problem with ergot poisoning is the consistency of it happening over a lengthy period of time & many, many individuals. They were bringing & eating their own food each time. Never once mentioning foraging for food or hunting for mushrooms. So the chance that everyone over a 30yr period lost their mind & none of them being in same exact campground when it happened makes it implausible. I feel like the fact that there was no wildlife in a specific area is an important clue. Is it because this heard of meat eating monkeys have ravaged every living thing in the area? Or is it because there is indeed something pervasive in an area that would make a person or creature lose its mental faculties? Or cause its a stronghold of the fae or hidden ones who gave been claimed to easily play with ppl perception of reality in an attempt of getting them to leave their homestead? Very very interesting.
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I liked everything about this story until you ruined it by unnecessarily trying to explain it all away.
@@Roylamx given how well known the story is, but pruned to display only bits and pieces in order to promote an agenda, it was needed imo. It's purposefully at the end though if anyone doesn't want to hear it, you don't have wade through my thoughts. Hopefully that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
Don't know if your familiar with the dyatlov pass and the khamar daban hiker tragedies but they are very similar both from Russia the dyatlov pass was no survivors but the khamar daban incident one girl survived and she won't talk of it again she's still alive and when found and saved by kayakers and put in hospital she told what happened how they all but her went insane from possibly a soup they made from mushrooms and other plants they got. From the mountains she didn't eat the soup and tells of her friends biting and chewing the shrubs and dirt banging their heads on the ground on hands and knees and pulling up small trees and things. Very very similar to your story ......check them out . Isn't Russia along the same geographic lines and similar to Alaskan climate and animals and plants? Could be the answers to the stories.
Thanks for providing a common sense, non-paranormal, non-cryptid possible explanation for some of these sightings. If anyone cares about the actual science of proving Bigfoot is real, you have to apply these "litmus tests" of reality to every single story and encounter tale. Without this process it makes a mockery of research and people that actually do care about whether this thing is real or not and do not secretly consider it a joke. A large number of people who claim they "believe in Bigfoot" don't do this at all and then get angry if you offer a common sense explanation. Some of those are the worst.
@@NathanTarantlawriter Thank you very much, I try so hard to do a good job. And I couldn't agree more, it's a serious problem and I'm hoping a more scientific viewpoint - and manner of discussing this topic - will take hold over the next few years. The paranormal viewpoints can be understandable on a surface level, but they don't hold up and only make people want to toss the topic of Bigfoot aside and not take it seriously.
Sometimes, I almost wonder if there is a conspiracy to cover-up the existence of Bigfoot, but it's done by those who love paradolia and make all sorts of "woo-woo" claims in an effort to make science leave the topic alone. It's hard not to wonder some days lol!
I think there's a lot of very genuine and sincere people who promote those theories, but I also think there are quite a few people who, at the very least, think it's a joke and like manipulating people. I hope I'm wrong about that last one.
Anyway, thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them!
I don't know of a single person that has spent an overt amount of time in deep wilderness that doesn't somewhat believe in otherworldly things.
Very true. Sooner or later you see or go through something spooky.
I grew up in Wrangell and this story was told and retold to us kids on camping trips and such. I love that it's still being told in 2023.
that's awesome, perfect scary story right here if you tell it right! Thanks for sharing, and I hope you have a good rest of your week!
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August, 2024 now.😊
I worked at Thomas bay doing tree thinning when I was was a teenager in 1978..Used to keep beer cold in Patterson river. The old lumberjacks used to draw pictures of the creatures described in this story. Ive always wanted to go back and see that country again and the results of my work.
Awesome, well welcome to the channel! If you don't mind me asking: did you get the feeling that the people up there believed what happened or were there a lot of people who seemed to doubt it? It sounds like a very interesting place to say the least. Thanks!
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel Thry definitely believed in the creatures The Indians called them akushtaka
I noticed a lot of orange in some of the creeks when can be a sign of arsenic Maybe the gold hunters long ago had arsenic in their blood which might explain the strange things they described
. I used to stay in the forest 2 weeks at a time Had a portable shower out there and cooked on a woodstove I remember 2 glaciers in the area and there were a lot of deer and moose which doesn't match the story but that was 70 years before I was there. Lots of berries and devils club bushes and lots of grouse Mostly spruce and Alder Under the uncut forest the ground is most moss. A lot of people get lost in that area. We found a few guys wondering around yelling for a rescue Bush planes crashed in the forest and can't find them
I'm glad you shared that with me, thank you! It sounds like you've had some great experiences. The arsenic is interesting as well, that could very well be a root cause for some of the things they experienced. It's sad to hear about how many people go missing out there though
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel The owner of the gas station in Petersburg gave us a crab pot we used to catch King Crab in the bay. Also caught Halibut from a canoe, King Salmon from the shore. I didn't think to look for gold but we were in that gold area. We actually found a lost guy out by the Patterson river.
@@Robert-fs6ge Oh man, 1978, back then there were 1 and 2 ounce nuggets in the river, you could pick behind the boulders
Our family has lived in Petersburg, Alaska since 1917. We've spent a lot of time in and around Thomas Bay. My great grandfather had many stories of the area. I've enjoyed this story since early childhood. Thanks for sharing it with the world.
That's awesome, thank you! I'm glad I was able to share it with so many people
Is there an S and crescent lake in the area?
Any stories of a haunted area or gold found by an S lake?
Care to share any of grandpas stories?
@@burtonupchurch1690 Yes. The lakes are well known. My great-great grandfather logged the area from 1918 to 1921 (approx). My dad and I hunted moose over there in the late 70's and early 80's. There are people homesteading over there now. The Patterson Glacier, lake, and river are rugged and beautiful. I don't have any good (unusual) stories of the area. It can be eerily quiet at times...absolutely silent.
I once went camping alone in the Big Thicket of East Texas. It’s easy for imagination to run wild in such a creepy lonely place. One night I woke up to the strangest animal sounds and rocks being thrown at my tent. I just sat inside and lacked the guts to see what it was. Somethings are better left unseen.
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"It seemed as if someone or something with the menacing disposition was right behind me all the time, and that there were hundreds of angry eyes watching me."
What a great description!
Also, the story was narrated very well. This happened upon this video and I really enjoyed it.
Indeed, you can almost feel it yourself! He did a good job writing down the story. And thank you, I appreciate that!
I could hit replay and listen to this over and over!
Having had a slew of paranormal encounters my whole life, I never automatically disbelieve other people's experiences!
@@davidmoore1477 I can never call another human a liar when they say they saw something anymore. I have seen and encountered a sasquatch in the wilderness, and i can remember it as vividly as if it happened 5 minutes ago.
We need to start believing our fellow humans, instead of automatically calling them liars
@steviechampagne spot on, my encounter happened on June 6 1979 about 19:30,
My friend told me of a Black belt instructor had a run-in with one around a apple tree, drop his gun, ran for his life, had to get his friends and their mother, too drive back up there to the Apple tree to retrieve his rifle...never been out again to hunt...35 /45 years ago.
When a person tells you what has happened, you can see it in the face and eyes, it took me 42 years to tell my best friend, he knows it the truth, because he was there the next morning.
@@davidmoore1477 You probably should automatically disbelieve other people's "experiences". I can't tell you how many times someone came to me telling me in a matter of fact way how they just encountered a skinwalker down the street. A skinwalker is a type of medicine man of the Dine (Navajo Tribe) and you will only run into them on the Navajo reservation which is a good 2 or 3 day drive going 70 mph to the west of where I live. Yet people claim they saw a skinwalker just down the street... Yeah, everyone needs a healthy dose of disbelief when it comes to the paranormal. Too many fraudsters, to many people misatributing things they saw or simply don't have a clue what their yammering on about. And this coming from a guy who has years worth of unexplainable paranormal sightings.
I've had the most bizarre paranormal things also. Wish I could share because I want to know if anyone else has seen what I have
@@carollynnberwindscheffler398 share it here friend!
Pretty intriguing story. The details and interaction between the characters give it the air of truth. Maybe some geologic anomaly that affects the brain? Strange.
P.S. I live in Montana. The outdoors has been a big part of my 59 Years. I almost always go it alone and have spent countless nights in the mountains of the west, Sierra Nevada and desert southwest. I don't scare easy. In the fall of 1992 I was in the Saphire range, one range east of the Bitterroots, when I had an experience that made every hair on my body stand up and sent me packing. Like to share it with you sometime if your interested.
Possibly. I forgot to point out what was said about the magnetic rock. There was an episode of Missing in Alaska about that. It was really interesting. Anyways, thanks for watching!
Regarding your edit: I'd love to hear it, that sounds interesting! Please email me. Here's my email: idahobigfootchannel@gmail.com
Y do I feel like this couldnt be further from the truth?!
@@scottieeasley4907 the story I covered in the video or his experience?
I was thinking the same thing. Electromagnetism can cause delerium.
I first heard this story about “Half-Moon Lake” and the horrible monsters at least FORTY YEARS ago, from a school friend about ten years old, same age I was then. So evidently this school friend was very well read, and recalled enough specific details about this story, and communicated them well enough to me, verbally, that I can confirm this is the story I heard. Haunting!
That's awesome! Story telling is difficult, especially when it comes to the details. Being able to not just remember those details, but also communicate them at 10 is awesome! Good for him.
@@roddmatsui3554 very cool! Synchronism.
@@roddmatsui3554 A very plausible explanation, much less of a stretch of credulity than Bigfoot.
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"The Jackle" aka DogMan does fit alot better than BF... And BF does not like Jackles... They will not live in the same area. Racoon hands is what Dogman is said to have.. Long fingers and long craws... Just a thought...
Interesting. Thank you for sharing!
I thought the same ,when I heard the trappers description
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I’ve been to Juneau and those mountains are full of devils. You can see their faces in the hillside, and the homeless in that city are possessed!
Homeless in Alaska? Might as well just go be a mountain man
@@nugsymalone1247 It was surprising to see so many homeless there- it’s a small town. they acted especially creepy and aggressive. Worse even than our California tweakers!
@@SonOfTheOne111 bums really suck
Welcome to American Capitalism.
@@captainsensiblejr. That's the cause of homelessness? How old are you?
The sound effects are a nice touch. New to the channel already enjoying this very much.
I'm glad to hear that, thank you!
What I find very interesting is the strong magnetic field driving even the compass daft!!. Perhaps the whole place is an enigma, a huge puzzle waiting to be solved. In some parts of the Scottish Highlands I have Heard of small aircraft flying low, had their in flight compass go radio rental!! Mental. Great story, we must keep all options open and respect the Great Outdoors, Especially Mother Nature.
I think you're on to something. Thanks watching and sharing!
It’s fun to think that there is still something “out there” that man doesn’t understand.😻
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Thank you for reading a great story. I'm recovering from a fall so had a beautiful day listening. Love everything alaska! Wish 8 could get back to it!!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Hope you heal up soon 👍
Very balanced and interesting. you never claimed to have all the answers and gave an historical context for your suggestions and theories. Thought-provoking and informed. Thank you
I'm glad to hear that, thank you!
Thank you for not using an AI voice to tell this story! Really enjoyed listening. 😊
Absolutely! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I wonder how many other people did a double take when he said something like they stopped at McDonald island for breakfast. Trading post, missions, fur trapping company forts and the good old golden arches were key in settling the wilds of the Rockies and surrounding areas of Canada and America.
Lol
Crazy
Yes nick i saw that too and had the thought what irony!
My double take was when he said the hideous creatures running up the ridge may have been Chinese immigrants. 😧
Imagine a mail courier named Tommy Twitter.
I remember this pamphlet making the rounds at a fish camp I worked at in SE Alaska 40 years ago. Everyone had their own theory as to what happened.
There are so many stories of high strangeness that the natives tell up there - mainly involving the Kushtika (sp?). I'm so glad to find this here!
That's interesting, I've heard some very spooky things about the Kushtaka. Not a friendly being. Glad to hear that the Natives have their own stories and its not just made up for this book.
Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you have a good rest of your week!
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When I lived in Sitka I heard about Devils Thumb which is near Thomas Bay. I heard that it was cursed, and you should not even spend a night there. Nothing of detail, but something very bad would happen to you. Thanks for telling this storyl
Your welcome, thank you! And that's interesting, I'm glad to hear that the locals actually say those sorts of things about the area and its not just a spooky fictional piece in the book. Thank you for sharing!
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This was a great story! I really enjoyed hearing you read it, as well as, being able to see the written text. Please keep up the great work! Be well and stay safe! 😊💖🙏
Thank you very much, I appreciate it! Will do
I love the tale‼️ I like to think that there are still things “out there” that man doesn’t know about.😻
100%, I agree!
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I’ve spent a lot of time in the woods over my seventy plus years, going from the days of wool blankets and coal oil lanterns to much more modern equipment the past fifty years or so. Anyone who’s actually spent time out in the wild will admit that odd things happen out there, and strange feelings, thoughts and fears can come creeping in.
Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it. Nature is amazing, but it can also creep you out pretty quickly
The Chinese immigrant idea explains why they didn't catch. Either they didn't want to hurt him or were so malnourished that they used up all their energy running up the valley wall
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Love the Indian flute and the Mark Twain quote. So then i saw Big Foot and was going somewhere else, when I realized you were reading a real story. So i gave it a listen. You read very well and the document was very interesting. It did get me wondering 🤷🏻♀️
The research you did was fascinating - the molds and
those poor lost men ! So good job on really trying to find out what happened.
People who go off on their own sometimes do end up missing here and there. They get lost or hurt and are never found. That’s what happened to Ötzi who fell into that mountain crevasse thousands of years ago. 🧗🏻♂️🌷🌱
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
And yeah, I feel bad for poor Ötzi.
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New subscriber. Love finding a whole new cache of stories to listen to. I appreciated your commentary at the end. Thank you and I hope your channel is thriving. ♥️
Awesome, welcome aboard! And thank you, I appreciate that
The magnetic effects of the iron load in the terrain was screwing with their heads. If the Chinese did make it to land here without knowledge of the area, common local language, or a boat to use in any moment of sensibility, they could have lost it fast and never had a chance to escape.
@arecane2000 hmm. New one to me and suprised with it at that. Not saying anything otherwise. I believe it could be ..... I have allways considered the strange behaviors to be from the sasquatch or what other malevolent beings they happened upon up there as many of these things have highly developed or high functioning Psyche abilities and are known to seriously mess with us when they choose to do so. Infrasound too .... likely things I have no idea about yet.
But the geology thing is interesting thank you for sharing that.
Thank you for posting these. I appreciate it.
Absolutely, my pleasure!
My dad had this book, and I first read it as a teen.
I'm a lifelong SE Alaska, and the idea that Chinese immigrants would be completely new to an adult American prospector in 1900 Petersburg is implausible, let alone the suggestion that mountain goats could be domesticated and managed as heard by a shepherd.
It’s an interesting story, thanks for taking the time to read it and to share those other details.
One thing that catches my attention from the story was the behavior of the compass. Perhaps that area has strange magnetic fields, which, if you listen to accounts of the paranormal, can give that eerie type of feeling or like you’re being watched. It could be a combination of things, magnetic fields, mold, etc. Plus, imagine if that’s true and you were a stranded Chinese shipwreck survivor and you’re being affected by these environmental things for who knows how long…could explain their odd behavior, if that’s what it was that the one man saw.
100%. In fact, I just had a comment from a gentleman who lived in Petersburg and he said him and his dad landed on black sand beaches where there were small particles of iron that it affected the compass of the airplane. You're definitely onto something there. Thanks for watching and stopping by!
Reminds me of the stories of the headless valley in Canada. Rumors of gold and Wookie's. People ending up dead or nutty. Where there are rich resources, these things seem to roost. Great video.
Thanks! Yeah I thought about that a lot too, very similar. I plan on covering the Nahanni valley story soon as well
It's interesting the headless valley story has bee popping up allot lately I only heard it for first time a few months ago which is surprising I'm pretty well-versed in all of the tales and stories like that and it's so good I'm surprised I hadn't heard it earlier
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Very cool story! Is there more?? If so can’t wait!!
Thank you! That's actually the whole story, cover to cover 👍
They said that their compass would point all over. Maybe the environment messed with their reasoning. Even the one that wrote the story, when he went with the Norwegian man, thought that they had only spent the night there but the other guy said that they were there for two weeks. Somebody in the town should've known how long they were actually gone. Sounds like a pretty strange place. In the bermuda triangle. Don't they sometimes have compass trouble?
That is very possible, if not probable. Good insights. And yes, I do believe the Bermuda Triangle has had similar issues with compasses
I thought the same, especially when I heard the description of the magnetic iron ore.. magnetism can cause a lot of paranormal incidents
I bought the book several years ago (I live in Petersburg, Alaska. Been in Thomas Bay many times. I always have an eerie feeling when going in the bay.
Momo is everywhere here along the Mississippi River bottoms in Missouri around the great Confluence. Have seen and heard myself
If you'd ever like to share your stories please feel free to send them to me at idahobigfootchannel@gmail.com , if not I understand but honestly I'd love to hear them! I've been watching some things about Momo recently, there are some incredible encounters out there! Anyway, I hope you have a good rest of your week
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New subscriber. Just listened to your channel for the first time. Well done, well told and you have a great voice. I have heard parts of this story before but not nearly as well told or as comprehensive as you told it. Looking forward to binging your channel.
Welcome aboard! And I'm glad to hear that, thank you
The point of creatures like gorillas retaining thick fur is to protect the skin surface from wounds. Humans wear clothes to compensate for the lack of natural fur. Humans have been wearing animal skins including from goats for thousands of years. So the explanation given would make sense. There have been more recent cases of campers in remote areas suddenly exhibiting bizarre behavior, there was one from Russia for instance, put down the effects of poisons or hallucinogens in the environment. So again I think the explanation offered would make perfect sense.
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The theory of the ship wrecked Chinese doesn't make sense to me. If these prospectors were leaving tents and supplies, hungry humans would have taken advantage of such resources.
MRSA is a relatively new development, not one of the late 1800's. Humans are smart. There was mention of settlers in the area.
Tjose hungry Chinese would have gone to the homesteads for help.
As town was only several days journey, they would have followed the streams to settlements.
They would have stuck closer to shore awaiting another ship and using the shore for seafood and firewood.
I just don't see it.
Good points, thank you for sharing!
The problem l have with this story is the absence of " Bears " after so many journeys into that area there's no mention of encountering Bears , Alaska is known for having grizzlies, brown bears and even polar bears
That's a good point! Thank you for pointing that out
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Great take on the story. I talked to a geologist about the story years ago. His theory was that arsenic in the water may be the culprit. In Southeast Alaska mineral rich areas contain arsenic. After hearing the stories the men could have been primed to the halutions. The exception would be the trapper and his dog. Several people I know in that area have reported to have seen something resembling big foot.
That's fascinating, thank you!
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Great story, it would be cool to have an old copy. Idaho is the most beautiful state I've ever seen. Although this story doesn't have a true feel to it or at least the man who wrote it wasn't there and may have filled in many details which is most likely, in that case it may very well have been true. Thank you.
When I listened to this story, the movie the 13th Warrior came to mind. Those indigenous people that wore bear hides with the skulls intact. The legend of those people had them (Vikings) all talking like they were some other-worldly creatures.
A great story regardless. Thank you!
Oh, neat! I've never heard of the movie but I'll look into it. And thanks!
Those were the last of the Neanderthals in the novel, Eaters of the Dead. 13th Warrior was a very good adaptation but the book is fire!
Great video; I had heard about this book before (and the basic outline of the story), but was not familiar with the shipwrecked Chinese goat-herder theory. It makes sense, especially if it were confirmed that the shipwreck happened. This Chinese goat-herders don't necessarily negate sasquaches in the area, especially with the report that mentioned the footprint with the mid-tarsal break (which doubtful would have been a detail turn-of-the-century gold panners would have known about). Thanks for taking the time to make the video!
Absolutely, I'm glad you understand what I was getting at there. Unfortunately a few didn't. But anyway, thank you I appreciate it!
I love this story. Great job Narrating and appreciate your final thoughts. I liked and subscribed. Looking forward to more.
Awesome, thank you!
Awesome story. I live in Juneau AK. South East AK. Kushtakka country. Alaskan triangle.
Thanks! I've heard some very strange and creepy things about the triangle and the Kushtaka.
Excellent video - thanks!
Glad you liked it, thank you!
Awesome story . Great Narration! I really enjoyed it .
I was thinking of the hallucinagen anglen angle the whole time.Very interesting tale.
There is arsenic in the water around that area. I've seen the orange color in creeks around Thomas bay
New sub here, great story’s thx ❤️✌️
Idaho Bigfoot you should come up to Alaska ((my Birth/Home state))in June 10-11 for the Alaskan Borealis Bigfoot Festival in Fairbanks, Alaska
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You did a great job with the story and you had me on the first chapter. Yes it is very intriguing. You made some very good points. One will never know. Thank you again for your time I enjoyed it when is the next one?
Glad you enjoyed it! I did just post a video on my other channel, Jep's Outdoor Adventures, of a story I read that, isn't mysterious like this one, but still is a very interesting story about Wolverines. It does talk about the myths surrounding different animals and how they form.
I'm also working on another video I'll let you know when that's done 👍
Here's the link to the wolverine video if you're interested 👍 ua-cam.com/video/d6iXxmCA-zM/v-deo.html
I really love this one. Great idea❤
Once you have binged the sasquatch chronicles and heard hundreds of accounts you know these things are real.
May I ask if you are referring to Bigfoot, Dogmen or something else please? Thanks!
(I ask because your last comment mentioned Dogmen and I don't watch Sasquatch chronicles much, so I don't know if they've talked about more than just Sasquatch)
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This certainly was an intriguing case story.
It seems John had some definite fixation about this area he describes as Devils Country.
Whatever was or was not there, it seems John wasn't directly affected somehow which is also odd, seeing as every single person who went with him or to those he directed to this place, were in some way, shape or form adversely affected.
Your synopsis at the end was very interesting!
Re; the Chinese immigrants, but in those times, many Chinese were brought in all over the States to work railroads, factories, Canneries, so I'm sure travellers must have seen plenty of Chinese folk.
As I thought about this mysterious tale, I thought about the effects of poisons, naturally occuring, but maybe the Chinese had some Opium & upon burning the Opium resin, could fumes have had an effect on the Prospectors?
What if the Chinese ( or other) were working there themselves, finding Gold & wanting it to stay secret?
By dressing up & making strange noises, causing hallucinatory fumes to affect infiltrators &
Setting up other novel ways of scaring off interlopers?
We know how clever the Chinese were in creating illusionary
Spec f/x, smoke & mirrors quite literally.
Maybe they made scary masks, used resins dyed red & smeared on their skin & rubbed on offensive smelling plants etc to look as repulsive as possible as if covered in sores & pustules?
If they did, well then, it worked!
If the Chinese or whoever, had discovered a rich seam of gold or some other precious metals, & they',d set up a good mining system, they wouldn't want to share.
Best deterrent would be to scare, impressionable & superstitious prospectors off, and STAY off.
I remember reading early explorers like Marco Polo, describing the most amazing inventions by the Chinese.
They had a vast knowledge of pharmaceutical medications & preparations & sly secretive ways to induce hallucinations & their firework displays of sky dragons were marvelled at by Europeans.
I think the answer to this story is somewhere along these lines.
I think a veritable gold mine was discovered & those who had it, had no intention of sharing
After repeated ( mainly by John...lol)
Attempts to prospect
A way was needed to
Divert & scare off, permanently, any prospectors so they upped the ante & scared off everyone.
Btw, the medieval Chinese had discovered that certain sounds or frequencies produced a range of feelings in people
There is one frequency ( discovered recently that produces fear in people,) it's a low khz one & scientists think something produces this natural
Khz & causes people to feel fear, being watched, hearing auditory hallucinations & seeing " ghosts"
Anyway, I've rambled on enough, does anyone else think my theory may be feasible?
Thank you for this video, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Peace 🇬🇧🙋
Love this thank you and keep up the great content ❤
I'm glad to hear that, will do!
Thanks for the story and the additional research. This was really interesting
Glad to hear that, thank you!
I was friends with Virginia as well as her brother Doug and and Marcel Colp of Fairbanks. I visited her in Petersburg, Alaska during Christmas of 2008. She told me the ending of the story that was never put in the book. It involved a family that homesteaded on Muddy Creek near what is now known as Harry D Colp Island., formerly known as Ruth Island as noted in story. I would love to share this and I can prove it easily. See Doug Colp, Memorial UAF. Also see KOYUKUK MONSTER which happened on Doug’s mining property on South Fork Koyukuk River as mentioned in his UAF memorial. GHD RESOURCES.
Sorry for the late reply but I tried looking for what you described but Google never showed anything about what you described. I hate asking, but if you have the links could you please share them with me? This isn't the first time Google has given me problems, maybe they'll still show up for you. Thank you!
PS: I live in a cellphone challenged area, so I can only communicate via the internet at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience
I wish they would relate the rest of the story that isn't in the book.
Just found your channel, enjoyed the stories and subscribed! Merry Squatchmas 👍👋🙏
Awesome, thank you!
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Wow... very cool story ! New sub , well done !
Much appreciated, thank you!
Me too.
Cool story!
I'm wanting to ask a question, in the hopes that perhaps you or one of your viewers had heard this story. I've been trying to find it without success for years now.
A man tells a story of when he was a boy, going to visit his grandma who lived in a remote cabin. One day out looking for berries he explores beyond his grandma's directives and finds a small grave/cemetery. He is then assumed to have been followed back to his Grandma's house by a bigfoot type creature. His Grandma is aware of this creatures existence. She yells out at the creature about the boy not being whom the creature thinks him to be (his deceased uncle from memory)
Any leads to finding this story would be appreciated. 🤩
That sounds pretty interesting. I don't think I've heard that before but hopefully someone can help you out, I'm curious myself 👍
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel If I do ever find it again I'll send you a link 😘
I think that's one of Dixie Cripted stories
I heard that one also but can't remember for the life of me were. I think it was a.from a collection of scars Appalachian stories. Maybe Darkness prevails .
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I may have missed it, but I don't remember him describing the size of the creatures chasing him. It seems like if it was a bigfoot, he would have mentioned their size.
Yup, good catch!
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Beautifully read sir! That's not easy to do. Really enjoyed the story as well. Thanks for sharing 🙂
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
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So very interesting. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Mercury left from ancient mining
It's interesting i have spent a lot of time in the woods and have been in places that made my hair stand on end and wonted to get out asap and it was a struggle to get to a place where i felt ok again. there are places where we have no business going too.
I sorry you had to deal with that, that feeling truly is horrible. Glad you are alright though, that's good. I wonder how many Missing 411 people had that feeling but shrugged it off. Bottom line: trust your gut. As you well know, if something feels wrong you need to get out of dodge. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I hope you have a good rest of your week!
Perry Farrell Lake of the Ozarks Missouri. I think you're pretty well sums it up everything you said made a lot of sense. Thanks for the great story
Glad to hear that, thank you!
Enjoyed these stories. Alaskan tales are the best.
Yes they are! Thanks for watching
Nice. Yep ..... Subscribed before you began speaking. This is top level materials here I love this account. I was born and live in Idaho's first Capitol ..... ( technically across the river in WA ..... but I can see Idaho across the river right outside the window .....if I wear a hoody and some shades and don't draw attention to myself nobody will ever know =] . )
Thank you very much, I appreciate the support! And I believe I know the area you're describing. I love that area, it's beautiful.
Amazing story really well told. Your comments at the end made a lot of sense too.
Much appreciated, thank you!
I lived in Petersburg in the 80s and my dad had a Cessna 180. We landed on beaches in Thomas bay and found the many “black sand” beaches interesting. They were small particles of iron of such volume that it affected the compass of the airplane. Other than that we never found anything out of the ordinary but enjoyed the book.
That is incredible, thank you for sharing! I think the magnetism could have been a big reason for the strange mental state of some of the members involved in this story. Thanks again and I hope you have a good week!
👍looking forward to hearing more from you.
Just found your channel. Love stories like this. I have an experience from last June in western MT on the Clark fork river. It was a crazy week of camping. My wife didn’t believe in bf in any way until this trip. Now she isn’t so sure, haha. I caught some audio too. If interested, let me know and I can share the story.
Thank you, and I'd love to hear it! If you'd like, please feel free to email me at idahobigfootchannel@gmail.com 👍
@@idahobigfootyoutubechannel will do, sir. I’ll type it up tomorrow after work and send your way.
@@Rizzob17 I live on the Clark fork want to hear this
Totally forgot about this. Remind me by replying and hopefully I can find 20 minutes to explain.
Adoring this! History & horror. [it was recommended to me following listening to the Wartime Stories podcast]
@@garrethgoodworth2494 awesome, I'm glad to hear that!
Great reading. Thank you. Snd the ending about the abandoned Chinese goat herders. What an awful way to go. sad story there.
Never heard the whole story, thanks for sharing the full story. I knew there had to be more to it than just the one guy going nuts. It's possible the magnetism caused them problems thinking: if it was Stromboli enough in the area. Compounded with the mold, there's no telling what type of effects the combination could have had in a person's mind.
Yeah, no problem! I know a few people have quoted the passage about being chased by the creatures and claimed that "it was Bigfoot!", but it does not appear that way once you hear the full story and get the context of what happened. At least to me.
And I agree, I think you're right. The fact that magnetism can affect us is both interesting and scary.
Really enjoyed this, especially the commentary at the end...the shipwreck thing makes sense. Thanks dude :)
Thank you, glad to hear it!
By God, this is very, very entertaining.
You sir are gifted!
Bravo!
Thank you for broadening my ever increasing knowledge horizon!
Auf Wiedersehen.
Wow, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I lived off grid in the Bitterroots for 20 years. Walked the woods ...never had a problem. Only once ( that I know of) have I encountered the forest man. I was resting in a shady glade...shut my eyes for a bit...when I opened them..50 or so feet away..behind in the trees..way up higher than a man....he was smiling at me.
Really good stuff here!!
Thanks!
My property borders The Great Smoky Mountains national park and many times when I am out I feel something watching me I have lived here 56 years and I have heard sounds from things I cannot identify and had many pets and livestock taken perhaps wildcats
Oh jeez. Sorry to hear that, losing animals is horrible. The feeling of being watched is really creepy too
So sorry about your loss of your animals. I wanted to suggest another great channel that tells tales from your area. It's South Force 10. I hope you enjoy!
My brother is near newport years ago had large hogs killed we didn't understand how a bear lifted a jog over the fence without breaking it down more than it did, also a guy that was moved in his sleeping bag overnight
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Thanks,gr3at story,great voice,more pl3ase,
Great video!
Thanks!
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Wow! I read a book years ago. I can't recall title or author, but, I have remembered this from it. "In Canada and Alaska ther are still vast areas of unexplored wilderness, where nameless men by nameless rivers wander, and in strange valleys die strange deaths alone"
That's quite the quote! I think I found it: "In Canada and Alaska there are still large expanses of virgin country
Where nameless men by the nameless rivers wander and in strange valleys die
strange deaths alone." That was in “Wilderness” from A Sand County Almanac and Sketches Here and There, Oxford
University Press, 1949, written by Aldo Leopold.
I also found "Ballads of a Cheechako by Robert W. Service To the Man of the High North" which said: "The nameless men who nameless rivers travel, And in strange valleys greet strange deaths alone" written in 1909.
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I hope everyone enjoys today's video!
Jsyk Mr.Ballen and Hammerson Peters have done this same story...
@@TheTallhillbilly have they? I've watched a lot of Ballen and never saw it!
@@TheTallhillbilly Mr. Ballen takes stories from everyone now, and just retells them. , often giving no credit to the original researcher. He no longer does his own research.
Cool story, great listening.
@@Mach11976 thanks! And yeah, if you can find it I'd appreciate it. I searched for anything related to this and only found one badly edited video and that was it lol
Strong magnetic fields can affect the brain, often inducing feelings of dread and paranoia. If these guys were sleeping on the ground their heads could have been bathing in such a field for hours. Combine that with adding the wrong kind of mushroom the their diet (because they're sick of repetitive meals)*, and the temporary insanity they experienced could be explained.
* Side note: who gets fed up of bacon? Seriously!
I don't know how people get fed up of bacon, that stuff is heavenly. And good line of reasoning there, thank you for sharing!
Interestingly you mentioned quartz, iron ore and salt water.
One of Teslas concepts for free energy used a system of tunnels in series that would separate salt water. The salt particles in h20 cause electrons to jump through a conductive surface. The water flows through varying series of piping. Which can also happen with ground water that runs through granite. This may result in a direct electrical current.
Massive amounts of iron ore under pressure(earths weight) would result in a large magnetic field
Quarts has a unique property in that it is piezoelectric.
Piezoelectric means electricity resulting from pressure and latent heat. All 3 forms of energy could have created strong radiant fields that may result have resulted in a temporary altered state or psychosis.
Just a thought.
That is facinating, thank you for sharing!
I think you're spot on with that theory.
I listened to the story again, and I picked out another detail. Another word mentioned often in the story was mold. It is now believed that the witches of Salem that had fits in front of the puritan courts actually had ergot poisoning. It could be possible that some type of mold was ingested resulting in ergot poisoning, or other toxin ingestion in that area resulting in a temporary psychosis.
A great mentor once taught me while reading personal accounts or testimonies of people to first focus on words of substance that are mentioned the most, to try to pick out themes before reading the content.
Evidently that part of Alaska is like many places on Earth ,Baciu forest ,Skinwalker Ranch , Black Mountain in Australia ,countless others which seem to be places ,inhabited by the Demonic and they dont want humans there for various reasons [have my own opinion on why ] I dont believe it was Ergot or moss or anything like that but possession ,I have felt that menacing ,creepiness and terror before ,many times along with weird things happening ,and pressure ,unbelievable pressure from inimical entities ,I believe the ''Devils'' were the ship wrecked Chinese who were desperate of course to return to civilization ,but not goat skins as you would need a rifle and i doubt they were armed or unlikely knew how to use a rifle ,maybe skins [goat or Deer etc]that were on board the shipwreck ,good video ,heard that story before but good to hear again !
Also Believe what took the Dog was a walking Wolf or Dogman,not a Bigfoot ,as they dont go from two to all fours
Thank you for watching, and stopping by. I know what you're talking about. I have felt that presence - deep overwhelming malevolence that makes the room feel heavy and causes a primal panic to overwhelm you. I fully believe that demonic beings exist, and I can see where you're coming from with this. It could very well be. Part of the reason why I don't discuss dogmen much is because I don't think they can exist biologically, and given how people claim they felt when they saw one... I think they are demonic in origin.
With that being said, you could be right about a dogman -type entity killing that man. Messing with people before hurting them would align in my eyes. I like to explain everything in a more biological/scientific manner, but I'm open to other possibilities.
Just my two cents! Thanks again, and I hope you have a good rest of your day!
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Seems your surmise is right: A terrible incident of foreign men tragically unable to be recognized as human, in a time when few people had experienced other cultures. Probably not psychotropic; they need time to enter the bloodstream. Thanks for your reading.
That's ridiculous. If men had the wherewithal to emigrate then they would be able to find their way to civilization even just by following prospectors. It's also not true that people had not experienced other cultures in 1900.
Awesome story, read very well. True or not, I enjoyed hearing it. Thanks for sharing it.
Absolutely, and thank you! I appreciate the kind words
Chinese immigrants could also explain the one in the boat yelling at the prospector as he rowed away. A stranded immigrant could have made it to the boat first and once in would not get out. And they kept shouting at the guy rowing away to turn back and get the others, but he didn't understand Chinese.
Could very well be! Thanks for sharing
Sounded like the place had some pretty strong magnetism, the compass jumping around and such. This can mess with you brain, which could explain some of the craziness and why some were effected more than others.
Thanks for the interesting video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always thought the original story was BS and Charlie just double backed or went back to the states to get family for the “outfit.” Regardless, I always assumed he lied and the point was to keep the find for himself. I for my part have a hard time trusting the motives of random gold prospectors from the world over who were desperate or desirous enough to make the long journey to Alaska for riches. For a man to believe in something like “devils” there, is just madness yet that has to be what was at the back of their minds when they actually were at the strike and going to start mining. They let “shaking bushes” scare them off of enough money to live forever on!?! Alaskan gold prospectors? No. They either found nothing and this is just a tall tale about the riches that could have been or it’s some mix of lying prospectors doubling back along filtered through scared superstitious people. My last question would be is that region fully developed today? If so has there ever been any archeological finds in the area or evidence of those ship wrecked people? If it hasn’t ever been settled, let’s go get the gold lolol
It's still a very wild area to this day from what I gather, so you'll have to work for it lol! That's an interesting thought though, thank you for sharing. Personally, I believe it's a legit story. The reason I say that is because if they felt like he (Charlie) was lying in any way, I highly doubt they would have covered it up. You just don't do that, especially to your business partners. I feel word would have gotten around if he was a slimebag, and they wouldn't have trusted him to go there all alone if that's the kind of character he was. Besides, Harry went back several times and never suspected that Charlie lied or came back to steal the gold for himself. If any serious mining was done, he probably would have figured that out.
And if they were all in on it, as far as I can tell, no rumors were spread and the family was well respected. I think if they were inclined to lie, word would have spread. I don't know, It's a nice thought at least.
And seeing bushes move can get your nerves on end, but the distinct feeling of something malevolent staring you down that hates you is a very different thing. I know, because I've felt it and hope I never do again.
Just my two cents. I would love to know for sure though!
If we take these men for their word, then it wasn't just "shaking bushes" that scared them off by itself. They were getting visits at night at their camp, etc. They had no idea how long it was going to take them to find enough gold to make it worth it to stay up there. It could have been weeks, months, or years of work up there just turn a profit, let alone find enough gold to be rich enough to live forever on. They already had a daunting task of travel to this remote area and worrying about survival in general, on top of needing to put in actual prospecting work. A few freaky bigfoot experiences would be enough to break anyone's will on top of all of that. I think that part of the story checks out.
Cool video. 'Happiness' is one of those relative words, meaning what makes one person happy, doesn't work for the next. I am a sane man who is happy, for I know (and practice) that I am not in control, shit happens, for a reason or not, so I I find happiness in the peace knowing that there ain't shit I can do about things I can't control.
Portlock Alaska seems to be the creepiest place.
Finding dead hunters bodies ripped apart would spook anyone that hunts in Alaska.
Maybe a grizzly, but one that rips a human apart and dumps their bodies by a river stream seems awfully dangerous and uncharacteristic of a grizzly bear attack.
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Great video 👍
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Good story but what about the scratches on Charlie's back? He said the scratched him repeatedly. Surely they would have mentioned seeing them or Charlie would have shown them and had it recorded.
That's a good point. Although he did say he didn't want any questions to be asked and just wanted to tell his story and leave, didn't sound like he was too excited to show them something like that. I wish he did though!
I know monster quest or a similar show did an episode about Alaskan Devil monkeys. As far as I can remember they didn't even mention this account and only covered encounters in the last 40yrs or so & in some of the acounts they were talking to live surviving witnesses. Other accounts were of other ppl who mysteriously vanished I the same location as the surviving witnesses story. I'm nor sure what part of Alaska these happened in & if they were close to these locations.
The problem with ergot poisoning is the consistency of it happening over a lengthy period of time & many, many individuals. They were bringing & eating their own food each time. Never once mentioning foraging for food or hunting for mushrooms. So the chance that everyone over a 30yr period lost their mind & none of them being in same exact campground when it happened makes it implausible. I feel like the fact that there was no wildlife in a specific area is an important clue. Is it because this heard of meat eating monkeys have ravaged every living thing in the area? Or is it because there is indeed something pervasive in an area that would make a person or creature lose its mental faculties? Or cause its a stronghold of the fae or hidden ones who gave been claimed to easily play with ppl perception of reality in an attempt of getting them to leave their homestead? Very very interesting.
Good points. And I believe it was Missing In Alaska that talked about the Devil Monkeys 👍
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