The paint is the least of its problems once you see the sharp corner a mech cable is supposed to route through at the rear dropout. This frame was the beginning of the end for Colnago; the plastic inserts for cables on tubes rather than moulded into lugs, proprietary seatpost, combined seat tube and lug, a real step backwards from the C60
They don't all come through authorised dealers. Colnago sell bare frames for repainting to distributors and the customer doesn't get the manufacturers warranty. The frames would be in varying states of prep depending on the deal they have with the shop. I knew a shop that was selling clear coated colnago frames at a good price. Consumer laws make the shop replace a faulty frame, but nobody is losing any money.
I am baffled by the fact that colnago does this, a super expensive frame like this one shouldn't be like this. Its like buying a primed ferrari only to let Maaco or some guy finish the paint job.
@@alannkevinexcept this more like buying a Cadillac. At the end of the day, you were always overpaying for a GM built car with a the expensive head badge. Most high end bike brands of the 70s-90 all fell off the quality cliff once they stopped working with steel. Old colnagos are art on wheels, new colnagos might as well be a giant or specialized
Wow I remember back in the early early 90’s I bought a racing bike from the dump, took it home, stripped it, brush painted it white, polished all the chrome, swapped out the rear cassette for a proper road racing one, added pedal cages because I was 13 and stupid, wrapped the bars in pink tape then went to the bike shop to find some stickers and went witg Colnago ones. It was the first bike I ever resprayed and it let me travel bigger distances at speed, so I used to ride across town and see my Nan and Pop most afternoons on it.
This is a stock colour option. There is no way someone would go into trouble of stripping original paintwork and would forget to mask bearing seats. I'm not sure where the perception of high quality work came but all colnagos i had and saw have had some sort of imperfections.
I've worked on a number of Colnago C64 rebuilds, never seen paint overspray like this before, looks like a poor respray to me. The paint damage is also unusual, original paint can wear thin if not protected but rarely chips so much like this. If purchased in UK, serial number can probably be checked with the importer (Windwave), for original colour.
And this was still one of the frames that Ernesto used to put his signature on , a practice that has now stopped since the C68 I believe. Colnago geeks , do correct me if I am wrong please , I am not a fully fledged fan yet.
Ernesto is 90+ years old, and he sold the company to a PE firm. Starting with the C68, his signature is no longer on the frame. I'm assuming those were terms he required. I've owned 3, the last a C60, but I'm just bought an S Works SL7. I just haven't seen anything from Colnago that excites me in a few years.
@donnypump Is been raining and I've had a couple of other things to do, so the first ride is tomorrow. That said, the drop is lower, and it's a race bike vs the C60. I am running 28s though, at 70 PSI, and if it's uncomfortable, I'm going to switch the seat to a 3D print, so provided I can tolerate the drop, I think from a comfort perspective, hoping anyway, it will be a wash.
I got a Colnago Master Piu in the 90's. The chrome stems started to rust in less than one year. Sent it back, took 6 month to get it back fixed. Rust again within 1 season. Never bought a Colnago again.
@@enigma1000they have other issues. I’ve seen colnago carbon frames from many years/models that are cringeworthy in quality. i srsly don’t understand the fanboyism.
I wrenched in a shop that was selling Colnago back late 80‘s and early 90‘s - never got one myself just because they never really where up to the price tag - and it shows they still are not but there is a lot of customers out there that stillbirth what Profis ride and win with … 🤯
Not sure about the C64 but my C60 headset cups definitely aren't glued in. They are a cup that's pressed in and the bearing is all integrated in the cup. You can't change just the bearings on their own.
I've seen better work on Chinese brands. Ive got a chinese brand aero disc frame here my garage that i rode on from 2016, faced BB68 no misalignment issues and not an trace of over spray.
Have you seen the type of guys who buy this ripoff Chinese junk . All cheap wrap round eyewear and fake spandex . The only genuine stuff they have is the dirt on the ridiculous clip on shoes
It was probably a respray.
The paint is the least of its problems once you see the sharp corner a mech cable is supposed to route through at the rear dropout. This frame was the beginning of the end for Colnago; the plastic inserts for cables on tubes rather than moulded into lugs, proprietary seatpost, combined seat tube and lug, a real step backwards from the C60
They don't all come through authorised dealers. Colnago sell bare frames for repainting to distributors and the customer doesn't get the manufacturers warranty. The frames would be in varying states of prep depending on the deal they have with the shop. I knew a shop that was selling clear coated colnago frames at a good price. Consumer laws make the shop replace a faulty frame, but nobody is losing any money.
Correct
This is 100% false. All C-series are painted in Cambiago Italy at the factory. Why would you make us complete BS?
@@user-fx8vq8qr1e You work there ?
I am baffled by the fact that colnago does this, a super expensive frame like this one shouldn't be like this. Its like buying a primed ferrari only to let Maaco or some guy finish the paint job.
@@alannkevinexcept this more like buying a Cadillac. At the end of the day, you were always overpaying for a GM built car with a the expensive head badge. Most high end bike brands of the 70s-90 all fell off the quality cliff once they stopped working with steel. Old colnagos are art on wheels, new colnagos might as well be a giant or specialized
Wow I remember back in the early early 90’s I bought a racing bike from the dump, took it home, stripped it, brush painted it white, polished all the chrome, swapped out the rear cassette for a proper road racing one, added pedal cages because I was 13 and stupid, wrapped the bars in pink tape then went to the bike shop to find some stickers and went witg Colnago ones. It was the first bike I ever resprayed and it let me travel bigger distances at speed, so I used to ride across town and see my Nan and Pop most afternoons on it.
Friday afternoon bike.
It's so sad when you have to guess whether it is genuine or a replica.
Someone’s first day on the job.
It’s possible that the owner, or a previous owner, repainted it.
This is a stock colour option. There is no way someone would go into trouble of stripping original paintwork and would forget to mask bearing seats. I'm not sure where the perception of high quality work came but all colnagos i had and saw have had some sort of imperfections.
@@debelifratar you'd be surprised at some painters might do when respraying a bike
I've worked on a number of Colnago C64 rebuilds, never seen paint overspray like this before, looks like a poor respray to me.
The paint damage is also unusual, original paint can wear thin if not protected but rarely chips so much like this.
If purchased in UK, serial number can probably be checked with the importer (Windwave), for original colour.
@@debelifratarit is possible to colour match/paint it back to original
Imagine buying a bike for at least 10 grand and get tech from year 2000
I have a Dogma F MyWay which has such major paint problems. I bought it from a bike shop. So overspray is not an indicator for having a fake
And this was still one of the frames that Ernesto used to put his signature on , a practice that has now stopped since the C68 I believe. Colnago geeks , do correct me if I am wrong please , I am not a fully fledged fan yet.
Ernesto is 90+ years old, and he sold the company to a PE firm. Starting with the C68, his signature is no longer on the frame. I'm assuming those were terms he required. I've owned 3, the last a C60, but I'm just bought an S Works SL7. I just haven't seen anything from Colnago that excites me in a few years.
@@rg807bit late, but how does the SL7 compare to the C60?
@donnypump Is been raining and I've had a couple of other things to do, so the first ride is tomorrow. That said, the drop is lower, and it's a race bike vs the C60. I am running 28s though, at 70 PSI, and if it's uncomfortable, I'm going to switch the seat to a 3D print, so provided I can tolerate the drop, I think from a comfort perspective, hoping anyway, it will be a wash.
I got a Colnago Master Piu in the 90's. The chrome stems started to rust in less than one year. Sent it back, took 6 month to get it back fixed. Rust again within 1 season. Never bought a Colnago again.
I remember often seeing rusty, fairly new, Colnagos in he 80s / 90s. I assumed the carbon Colnagos don’t have that problem.
@@enigma1000they have other issues. I’ve seen colnago carbon frames from many years/models that are cringeworthy in quality. i srsly don’t understand the fanboyism.
It’s largely markering but (intelligent) people that I know who have them do like them. Time for me, I hope it’s good.
Respray?
Good point being that this is now several years old
Bad Quality? Don't Call nago, Call Mapdec ❤
I wrenched in a shop that was selling Colnago back late 80‘s and early 90‘s - never got one myself just because they never really where up to the price tag - and it shows they still are not but there is a lot of customers out there that stillbirth what Profis ride and win with … 🤯
All the sprays out there finding this very funny 😂. I'll shows this to my work mates in the sprays rooms
OFFICIAL ANSWER: This is a respray on a Colnago that was repaired following crash damage. You’re welcome.
Sadly not
OFFICIAL ANSWER: you’re wrong. 😀
That looks like it was repainted. I could be wrong.
Might've been repainted by a clueless third party?
Or might not
Give it to Hambini for a proper reaming!
It’s ok. I’m sure we can fix it.
My c60 bb didn’t have the paint faced, but otherwise had none of these issues
The curse of praise strikes again...
Personal paint job? Looks like a DIY situation!
Not sure about the C64 but my C60 headset cups definitely aren't glued in. They are a cup that's pressed in and the bearing is all integrated in the cup. You can't change just the bearings on their own.
'Head tube' never knew they were called that, that's what I used to call my ex. Might explain why she left me 😂
This is what happens when they outsource their frames
It's almost like batch manufacturing doesn't match up to artisan builders. I've never had these issues with custom frames.
Maybe someone stole a frame that didn’t pass qa from the factory
Col-nah-go order a Time
😂❤
Paul, what grease gun would you recommend, please?
Ohh my, that look worse than my hong-fu frame :) and it cost many, many times more.
Idk about you, but @0:35 doesn’t he look a bit like that little red Xiidra dry eye guy?
It's real it's just been resprayed!
Imho only decent Italian bike brand is Cinelli and that's a hill I'm willing to die on
They are hard to make but are they not still made in China?
I've seen better work on Chinese brands. Ive got a chinese brand aero disc frame here my garage that i rode on from 2016, faced BB68 no misalignment issues and not an trace of over spray.
Its not that surprising, even the new c68 have overaprays
Looks like the bike was repainted in a hobby workshop or something like that. Not worthy at that level and heritage.
This is what happens when you buy fashion over function.
Weight weenies has a story up about the poor finishes on thesee frames shown at 2019 show
The fakes are most likely from the same factory just seconds or slightly modified to avoid resale value.
Diy paunt job?
I’ve yet to see a good quality colnago. Even the plastic cable insets are utter trash
Agree. Supremely overrated.
someone can't afford one@@thedownunderverse
@@user-db8rm2cz1n lol u look silly
@@user-db8rm2cz1nI own a master which I leave in the shop for people to look at as it’s pretty but that’s also not very well made
Not sure that would have been a stock paint scheme, maybe I’m wrong. Perhaps those issues are the result of a 3rd party painter?
This is stock Color
@@Mapdec Yikes! That is surprising. Oh well… Maybe QC had the day off. 🙂
@@larisonjohnsonwhen does Italian QC (or warranty) have the day *on* ?
China
Apprentice
Not like they used to be...
Friday at 4:30
So much plastic, and so what if it was genuine or fake? there are a million and 1 churned out of the same factory
I found a v2-r frane. The painting are hideous
Friday afternoon job
Bad respray for sure
That looks as bad as a c60 fake I chopped up
I ALWAYS thought it was Colonago wtf....this is a Mandela effect for me
Have you seen the type of guys who buy this ripoff Chinese junk . All cheap wrap round eyewear and fake spandex . The only genuine stuff they have is the dirt on the ridiculous clip on shoes
Crying about overspray is fkn ridiculous
On a £7k bike?
@@MapdecThe overspray's not going to affect the way the bearings sit or how the frame performs
This is just a poor effort at a respray
original colour and paint.
Isn't Colnago asian made as well?
not the C series
@@long19000 ahh, even worse then.
@@matsrekdal3065 not really the typical case with Colnago but the Asian made Pinarello frames have much better paint that the Italian frames
Christ, my C-RS looks a million dollars compared to that shite! And how much was that frame? 🤣