Saving un-dumped Super Nintendo & NES prototypes

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  • Preserving Nintendo & Super Nintendo prototype games! Many of these games contain differences compared to the final, retail version. The owner will be releasing these via CodeBound. Games include Batman Returns, Super Star Wars, Star Wars Empire Strikes Back, Super Mad Champ, and more!
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  • @user-lt8cs3yk1n
    @user-lt8cs3yk1n Місяць тому +107

    too bad we'll never get to see the 7 hour long livestream of John and Tony trying to break open the wada case with their bare hands, would have been prime time entertainment

  • @TheFlyingJester
    @TheFlyingJester Місяць тому +54

    I absolutely want to see the sealed prototype cracked open, that would be 10/10

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan Місяць тому +12

    One of those most heartbreaking things I ever saw was someone doing a live stream where he went through boxes in an old programmer's attic, and he started pulling out NES and GameBoy prototypes with non-shielded EPROMS and (I kid you not) HOLDING THEM UP TO THE LIGHT TO SHOW THEM OFF. People were screaming at him in the chat to put masking tape over those EPROMS but he was too busy gloating to care.

  • @brandogg
    @brandogg Місяць тому +32

    John lookin' like he's about to put some dinosaur Embryos in a can of Barbasol

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 Місяць тому +33

    3:25 Thats one spicy pixel character :))

  • @lwhite647
    @lwhite647 Місяць тому +31

    I’m glad that the new owner of the WATA sealed game wants to do the right thing and preserve it. We need more people like that in the community

    • @common_c3nts
      @common_c3nts Місяць тому +2

      WATA means nothing. It does not matter to open it.

    • @RowbuttBatmin
      @RowbuttBatmin Місяць тому

      It was the person who bought it from the hoarder and sent it along to this channel. The original hoarder gets no credit :)

    • @RowbuttBatmin
      @RowbuttBatmin Місяць тому

      @@common_c3nts yeah we all know and agree WATA is worthless. The point is, it's a prototype of a beloved game that was going to be lost to history. It matters opening it, it matters dumping it.

    • @lepatenteux592
      @lepatenteux592 Місяць тому +1

      I will hope this is sarcasm and laugh at this joke!
      (WATA is a cancer in the gaming industry!)

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Місяць тому

      Did both of you guys fail English ? Your reading comprehension is awful. Re read what he said. If I was your English teacher you'd both be receiving F's.

  • @MrPine656
    @MrPine656 Місяць тому +14

    Really wish you guys got more recognition. Your content's (usually) pretty interesting and it's baffling how some of this stuff hasn't exactly blown up

  • @JeffIndigo
    @JeffIndigo Місяць тому +7

    That dig on the "dragons" was great lol

  • @Tclans
    @Tclans Місяць тому +10

    That is a great cliffhanger!
    Looking forward to your next video on Empire.

  • @prosfilaes
    @prosfilaes Місяць тому +2

    The copyright symbol had some complex rules in US laws; they mostly ended in 1989, but prior to that, a "c 1988 Game Company" could be legally deficient and result in losing copyright that a proper copyright symbol could have protected.

  • @JS-oi5jt
    @JS-oi5jt Місяць тому +6

    Did you guys see that Doshin the Giant prototype that went on ebay a few weeks ago? Do yall know anything about that?

  • @jamesgillre
    @jamesgillre Місяць тому +5

    The Scotland flag is wrong in World Class Soccer, not sure if it's like that in the final version lol

    • @Redhotsmasher
      @Redhotsmasher Місяць тому

      6:16 And the cross on the Swedish flag has green outlines for some reason. And the Danish one has oranges ones. And the Swiss cross too. And the Canadian maple leaf looks more like a janky flower. Yeah, these flags look funny.

  • @Bakamoichigei
    @Bakamoichigei Місяць тому +1

    2:15 I love those NCL official prototype cart labels. They look so swag.

  • @RetroJack
    @RetroJack Місяць тому +9

    WATA is evil - crack that case!

  • @johntorn
    @johntorn Місяць тому +6

    “Crack that case” (Devo voice)

  • @StephenChapman
    @StephenChapman 12 днів тому

    I remember seeing a Shadowgate 2 prototype for NES sell on eBay around 2004. With Shadowgate being one of my favorite games on the system (esp. for some of its music), I've kept hope through the years that this prototype would surface at some point. Haven't seen anything about it since!

  • @kenh6096
    @kenh6096 Місяць тому +4

    Cool, Love all the unreleased content. Never understood the Wata nuts but glad to see you are going to set a game free :)

  • @rashira9610
    @rashira9610 Місяць тому +6

    Oh shit You guys know Snesei?
    Can't say I'm too shocked but that's pretty sweet. Met him at Maker's Faire over at the Henry Ford back in 2012. The entire performance by Piko Piko Detroit was pretty sweet but Snesei's set was by far my favorite, he even signed one of his CD's for me. Cool dude.
    Think I have his Mii in my old 3DS, they streetpassed IIRC. Gotta dig it out.

  • @eduardopazhurtado3882
    @eduardopazhurtado3882 Місяць тому +1

    Film the whole thing, opening the WATA box and the dumping of the room, we want to see the whole process.

  • @SweetBean92
    @SweetBean92 Місяць тому +3

    Y'all are the absolute best, I can't wait to see the broken case and what you extract from the cartridge

  • @michaelkenny6496
    @michaelkenny6496 Місяць тому +1

    Wooow i remember playing Super Battle Tank 2, Stargate, and Super Empire Strikes Back waaay back in 96, when my bros werent playing Zelda, Final Fantasy 6, Secret of Mana, or Mario RPG lol

  • @professorpenne9962
    @professorpenne9962 Місяць тому +2

    preserving history one cart at a time. you guys rock.

  • @drgabi18
    @drgabi18 Місяць тому +1

    7:06 just love the uninterrupted sass for a straight minute

  • @foxhack5011
    @foxhack5011 Місяць тому +1

    Huh. That Stargate cart has an Itochu branding, they were the company that distributed Nintendo products in Mexico - and were also involved with Club Nintendo Mexico (the national Nintendo magazine.) I wonder if this is the same build that was reviewed in one of their issues.

  • @BillyTheCat128
    @BillyTheCat128 Місяць тому +2

    These are amazing finds. And yeah, I don't get what the deal with collectors is, the whole idea of "losing money" by sharing the rom sounds weird to me. There are high quality scans of the Mona Lisa and there have been accurate reproductions of that famous painting, yet the OG Mona Lisa is still worth Millions of dollars. By their logic, the original painting should be 'completely worthless' now because a reproduction exists out there. Dumping a rom doesn't (or shouldn't) devalue the OG cartridge. So it's basically just a hoarder thing: "I have this and you don't! Har-har!"

  • @jameson108
    @jameson108 Місяць тому +3

    I can’t wait to see that wata box cracked open

  • @yama_yama_yama
    @yama_yama_yama Місяць тому +1

    Yes please. More videos for all the games, love seeing the comparisons.

  • @nicholaszacharewicz693
    @nicholaszacharewicz693 Місяць тому

    Thanks for sharing about these prototypes. The next episode's going to be great!

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY Місяць тому +2

    Nice it's John and Tony time! I love undumped games thanks for saving them

  • @paulnewhouse5126
    @paulnewhouse5126 Місяць тому +6

    Are we ever going to get any prototypes of Secret of mana?

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +18

      I'd love to. The supposed SNES CD version of Secret of Mana is one of my holy grails....

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 Місяць тому

      Based if found ​@@hard4games

    • @thardump859
      @thardump859 Місяць тому +1

      No.... The only prototypes we'll ever get are of shitty 3rd party shovelware garbage. Either that or prototypes of Sega games.

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 Місяць тому

      @@thardump859 I have some rare unreleased RPG games but I don't want to share them because I hate humans

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 Місяць тому

      @@thardump859 I even have a prototype of Pokémon red

  • @jackofallgamesTV
    @jackofallgamesTV Місяць тому +1

    That's not Stargate.
    Stargate is the sequel to Defender.
    That's Stargate: The Movie: The Game

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack Місяць тому +3

    Seems like most of the prototype games you find are pretty far along in development or basically finished. Were these cartridges ever used for development purposes or were they mainly just created to send out to reviewers shortly before release?

  • @AJDPharmD
    @AJDPharmD Місяць тому

    Wow, it's been a while since we've been blessed with John's presence!

  • @lepatenteux592
    @lepatenteux592 Місяць тому +2

    I would love it so much that you check all the differences in the Stargate Game. Thank you

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +2

      ☠️

    • @lepatenteux592
      @lepatenteux592 Місяць тому +1

      @@hard4games What?, I don't want to be the one suffering through this... I'd much prefer to watch your pain than experience it for myself! 🤣

  • @PedroSilvahf
    @PedroSilvahf Місяць тому

    There are a few videos with an earlier batman returns version with a different hud and probably a few changes

  • @Matteomax
    @Matteomax Місяць тому +1

    Would be curious to know how much the Star Wars prototype wound up costing the buyer who sent it in..

  • @zombizzle_
    @zombizzle_ Місяць тому

    Thank you sir that sent games.

  • @HEADRUSH444
    @HEADRUSH444 Місяць тому

    John is bringing the 80s back!

  • @zerobyte802
    @zerobyte802 Місяць тому

    If hoarding unreleased carts/roms like a dragon were akin to being a Tolkien baddie, Chris Stamper is Morgoth. He dropped a vid on Twitter of himself booting up Twelve Tales Conker 64 on hardware. He's done that with other such titles.

  • @toxy3580
    @toxy3580 Місяць тому +1

    Ah yes Worm the prequel to Worms

  • @EyezOnMe
    @EyezOnMe Місяць тому +1

    That Scotland flag was looking kinda weird in that fitba game 😅 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @JasonBaker1978
    @JasonBaker1978 Місяць тому +1

    The idea of sealed games go's against the entire purpose of it being a game... TO BE PLAYED! Collectors like that anger me. Its not a show piece, play it or pass it along to someone else who will.

  • @steveirvinejr1672
    @steveirvinejr1672 Місяць тому +1

    Only reason why should dumb em should be keep only for the owner

  • @CRXJDM88
    @CRXJDM88 Місяць тому

    Wow a prototype Star Wars game super nice

  • @kay_glo
    @kay_glo 23 дні тому

    Wow, yes

  • @thesogo64
    @thesogo64 Місяць тому +1

    Best channel

  • @darktetsuya
    @darktetsuya Місяць тому +3

    huh don't think I've heard of mad champ but sounds really interesting, basically anime road rash? and even if it's just star wars, hats off to freeing that one from its WATA prison to share with the rest of the gaming populace! I'm also disgusted at the ROM hoarder types, not gonna lie.

  • @chadnault7481
    @chadnault7481 Місяць тому

    Damn, still no Ultimate Journey or Shogun Maeda.

  • @videostash413
    @videostash413 Місяць тому

    Tony from The Muppets, and John from The Office

  • @Kwyjor
    @Kwyjor Місяць тому

    Still holdin' out hope for Impossible Mission 2025.

  • @JG24Billy
    @JG24Billy Місяць тому

    Can't wait for Tony to play Stargate

  • @NickyClassicBackArchives
    @NickyClassicBackArchives Місяць тому

    cool

  • @rainnaxil
    @rainnaxil Місяць тому +1

    where this guys share the roms dump?

  • @grafvinestarry
    @grafvinestarry Місяць тому

    The fridaynight is saved again

  • @CrankshaftRabbit9164
    @CrankshaftRabbit9164 Місяць тому +1

    ...Why is it with these prototypes the chips are sticking out of the cartridge shell? O.o

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +2

      They use sockets so the chips can be easily swapped. Sockets make it so they cannot fit in the original case.

  • @schimnesthaisbasement5015
    @schimnesthaisbasement5015 Місяць тому

    Don't waste your time cracking open a cold one yet, crack open a wata sealed game first, then the cold one will taste... colder, so better.

  • @nensondubois
    @nensondubois Місяць тому

    Smashy smashy!

  • @Lexterizando
    @Lexterizando Місяць тому

    You are the heroes of the canceled lost games.

  • @koolcid9075
    @koolcid9075 7 днів тому

    If someone wants to buy prototypes, and keep them for game preservation without dumping them. Let them do that and not call them a dick. I know if I did have a prototype, I would not dump the rom nor share it. I brought it with my own money I get to do with it how i want

  • @melley420
    @melley420 Місяць тому +1

    I really like the shirt of the cute guy on the right. Slay

  • @wojiaobill
    @wojiaobill Місяць тому

    "Theyre so hard!"
    for games? 😎

  • @JoshuaEpperson69
    @JoshuaEpperson69 Місяць тому +1

    What is the rarest nes prototype?

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS Місяць тому +4

      The one(s) we haven't found yet.

    • @lvl90dru1d
      @lvl90dru1d Місяць тому

      bio force ape?

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 Місяць тому

      Magical kid indy

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 Місяць тому

      What's the most interesting one for nes? Definitely not that game, for me it's another one, a Rpg game about gods which was in development but got cancelled because of multiple reasons one because the mechanic was "too complex to understand". I forgot the name though.
      And my most wanted cancelled RPG games are eternal chain and dragon's heaven

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +3

      Pug of Destiny (NES, 1991).

  • @snowyweather1
    @snowyweather1 Місяць тому +1

    Set the games free ! :)

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel Місяць тому

    To destroy all rated games like that ✊🏻

  • @mushra50
    @mushra50 Місяць тому +1

    I doubt these guys are going to get their hands on the Nintendo 64 prototype of panel de pon because the guy who has it is being a stuck-up a****** with the cartridge and he refuses to dump it online even when people offered him money

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +2

      That one's a long shot. 🥺

    • @mushra50
      @mushra50 Місяць тому +1

      @@hard4games I don't know why he's being so greedy with it he can easily make money if he let somebody rent the cartridge and upload the ROM on the internet cuz once that cartridge is destroyed that game is gone forever

  • @andresl6421
    @andresl6421 Місяць тому

    5:03 wow, this is interesting, ITOCHU was the official authorized dealer of nintendo in Mexico in the 90's until the early 2000s

  • @Mrshoujo
    @Mrshoujo Місяць тому

    Dump & share the ROMs! As soon as you can.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +1

      The owner is gonna release via codebound.

  • @CaptainW_rCrimes
    @CaptainW_rCrimes 17 днів тому

    pal isnt just europe its also aus and nz

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  16 днів тому

      True. Though I believe these were euro carts, so I just kinda...lumped it in as one in the same.

    • @CaptainW_rCrimes
      @CaptainW_rCrimes 16 днів тому

      @@hard4games they definitely were euro carts just thought I’d throw an “um actually” out there 😂

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond Місяць тому

    Systematic WATA destruction.

  • @BigMacOrange
    @BigMacOrange Місяць тому +1

    Im still hungry for bananas 🍌

  • @yoymate6316
    @yoymate6316 20 днів тому

    really makes me wonder if any black hat ever considered taking a crack at wata’s servers… hmm

  • @OM19_MO79
    @OM19_MO79 Місяць тому +2

    -I’m better than you. I preserve games by buying physicals, I even have unreleased games with just one copy.
    -Really? How do you preserve them?
    -I encase them so they won’t ever be touched. Do that with digital!!
    -Well, I make back ups often, if my console breaks and the servers go down, all I need is a hack or an emulator to play again. What happens if those carts and discs break? Did you dump them so you can play them again? Did you even play or test them?
    -Why, no. But is preserved.
    -Sure. “Preserved”.

  • @bondjovi4595
    @bondjovi4595 Місяць тому +1

    Torrent the rom. Make rom cartridges out of the prototypes. I don't care. Lol..

  • @aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa
    @aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa Місяць тому +3

    you guys are heroes for breaking that fucking graded prototype open and dumping it. Fuck collectors.

  • @skRapKlan
    @skRapKlan Місяць тому

    Hahah you guys seem to love the modern hand-holding stuff... Might want to delve into more retro games before giving your opinion on whats "hard"...? Haha just saying... Awesome video tho, hope you will upload these ROMs to the web no matter if you think its the final version or not.. Small byte differences might mean more than you think..

  • @stevenD13455
    @stevenD13455 7 днів тому

    Sooo, piracy?

  • @willianderuberkater3526
    @willianderuberkater3526 Місяць тому

    So a friend of your Show sent you These Prototypes and you Even do Not SAY his Name?!? How greedy Are you??

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +1

      His name is on-screen.

    • @willianderuberkater3526
      @willianderuberkater3526 Місяць тому

      @@hard4games thats Right. But you could also SAY his Name in Order of Respect for sending his Prototyps.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +2

      He retreated from the internet for a while. I didn't say it out of respect. As it turns out, he's okay now with us saying it, so i added the text. Why are you picking a fight over nothing? 🙃

    • @willianderuberkater3526
      @willianderuberkater3526 Місяць тому

      @@hard4games Oh, sorry. I didn't know that. I've often seen UA-camrs who received great gifts from their viewers and then just listlessly display the username in the video

    • @krisc1684
      @krisc1684 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@willianderuberkater3526 i think you need to take a break from the Internet

  • @poyalt983
    @poyalt983 Місяць тому +1

    dump them

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +3

      Absolutely! Will be released too!

  • @lukasrgl
    @lukasrgl Місяць тому +2

    1:20 Sorry Americans, but who got an ugly SNES a Megadrive that needed a new Name :)

  • @DrNoBrazil
    @DrNoBrazil Місяць тому

    Preserving is the new word for pirating...

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 Місяць тому +4

      No. They don’t make money by selling the copyrighted material. Piracy is piracy, sharing is not piracy.

  • @davidobert3325
    @davidobert3325 Місяць тому +1

    This was a great video till you guys started giving lip service to WATA. A slabbed cart from that business MEANS NOTHING! The whole section where you were trying to make it sound special just made you sound like clowns.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Місяць тому +6

      Did you not realize we were insulting them? Did you not pick up on the sarcasm?