Another ''In the book..." comment-- Jamie is so keyed up in furious battle mind-set that when he finds Claire he can't find his English words. He can only speak Gaelic, reminding us that is actually his native language. Claire has learned some Gaelic over the years, but nothing is clear to her until Ian pops up to translate.
Yes, such a heavy episode, but I love that they included (and that you focused on) the positives... the relationships, the support, the feeling of safety that Claire feels with Jamie. There is so much bad in this world but there is so much good too. We need to recognise and nurture the good!
The alternate reality that Claire's brain takes her to is FILLED with Easter eggs. It's like a physical depiction of her mind, her memories, her SELF. It's in the 20th century, but the people are all from the 18th. Jamie wrapped her in a blanket said, "Yer shaking so hard it's making my teeth rattle." I think that's a core memory for her. The day she fell through the stones was arguably the most baffling, terrifying day of her life, but it's also the day she met the love of her life. The blue vase from the first episode, symbolizing home, is also there. There is a behind-the-scenes video that goes into a bit of detail about the props and what episodes they refer to. Jocasta isn't blind. Fergus has both hands. Murtagh's alive. But my favorite detail is the orange. Remember when she went to the king of France for Jamie's freedom from the Bastille? She made a point to grab the orange on the way out. It symbolizes her dignity. This abduction actually happened in book 6, but book 5 and 6 story lines were kind of interwoven (like how Stephen Bonnet's death is in book 6), so it's not that out-of-place. But it is simplified down. Lionel Brown wasn't the ringleader of the gang. It was actually Hodgepile, the guy who was wearing the bastardized British redcoat. The Browns were dragged into it against their will after the gang captured Alicia Beardsley. (Remember the part black baby girl Claire delivered who legally was the heir to the Beardsley estate that the Browns took in?) As for the rape, it wasn't as bad in the book (though still obviously traumatic). The teenage boy just dry-humped her. Hodgepile beat her, but didn't actually rape her. Donner pretended to harm her but didn't. And then there was one man who raped her "gently," pretending she was his dead wife. It's not that important, but I was really touched by a moment in the book after they arrived back at the Ridge, Claire asked about Fergus, Ian, and Roger. Jamie was startled that she'd be concerned about them after what she went through, but I find it so fitting that a mother would be concerned about her sons. (She may not have birthed them, but they are definitely her sons.) Marsali didn't kill Lionel. Mrs. Bug did. It was much the same. He was mocking her, belittling her as a woman, and she just snapped. I guess they changed it to give Marsali a bigger role. (Marsali also wasn't studying medicine under Claire, but they did that to give the actress more to do.) Roger and Bree didn't attempt to go through the stones. I'm not sure why they made that change, to be honest. The only explanation I can think of is to make it more clear that it really is not simple travelling through the stones. The books make it clear it's really jarring, nearly killing you every time you go through. Geillis' journals made it clear that not only do people disappear there, but dead bodies appear in strange clothes sometimes.
@MeyaRoseGirl : They had Roger and Bree trying to go trough the stones because they didn't wanted them there when Claire would have been taken, and since in the show Bree and Roger were already talking about going away this gave the writers an excuse for not to have them around :) ! .
@@giuliapicchiotti What difference would it have made if Bree was back at her cabin and Roger was with the men when the still exploded? The end result would have been the same that Claire and Marsali got attacked with only Germain witnessing. The change in the show meant that a moment I really liked from the book couldn't be in it. Claire knew they'd come for her, and she first knew they'd arrived when the woods were suddenly filled with the sound of a steady bodhran drum and knew it must be Roger. No, I think it was just to add depth to the danger of the stones. Plus that episode had Lord John showing up inexplicably, and he's not in book 5 at all, and he's only at the very end of book 6. I think that was just because he's a fan favorite character and to remind us that William exists.
The symbolism behind this episode is pure gold. The orange (the same one she took when she had to sleep with the king of France to free Jaime) represents her dignity, above all she is always worthy; the vase from episode 1 representing a mixture of the future (her past) and that home she always wanted; the wallpaper that is the same as that of Lallybroch that was also his home, a safe haven for his soul and his heart at that time. Plus, Jamie is the only one who stays dressed like he's from the past because Claire knows in her heart that staying in the future means Jamie will always stay in the past. On the other hand, in the book this sequence of events is amazing, the way Claire tells what is happening around her, the sound of the drums, the screams in the style of Viking warriors, Jamie speaking only in Gaelic. It is as precious as it is painful.
Another wonderfully thoughtful reaction from you, Imon. You are a rare gem amongst the folk here on UA-cam who do these kinds of videos. Most of them (not all, but most) tend to be one dimensional and basically 'act' their reactions, by way of exaggerated expressions and noises of surprise, disgust, laughter, etc. They essentially give their audience what they perceive is expected by them, little knowing that all they do is come across false or superficial. You on the other hand are a genuine philosopher and consider deeply the stories that you're watching. Regarding this one, the only thing that you said which I disagree with is the part about admiring Claire for sticking to her oath. I take on board all that you said, but for me, it shows up why no-one should ever take an oath of any kind, no matter how admirable it appears on the surface. Life and its vicissitudes are never static, whereas an oath is crystalised in place from the outset. In the example of the show, Claire's rigid adherence to the Hippocratic Oath - i.e. 'first do no harm' - ironically caused HER severe psychological harm and no doubt would have caused other people to have been harmed had Lionel been allowed to live and recover. Doing the 'right thing' is hardly ever a black and white prospect, but in this story Claire's loyalty curtailed her from taking the appropriate action and therefore it fell to other people to make up for her well meaning yet ultimately misguided shortcoming.
I really appreciate the kind compliment, thank you. I really can’t argue against what you’re saying. You make great points. I guess an oath could be like a religious belief and when it’s put that way it’s hard to defend it.. a lot of the strongest beliefs people have in this series as well as the real world have caused some of the cruelest torturous punishments/harm to people. So In a way an oath, even though it is meant well, can put people in harms way. So I agree with you when you put it that way. I’ll be thinking about this for a while lol.
So many throw backs to previous episodes in her "safe" place. Dialogue exactly the same. The vase, the painting of the 'New House". All the characters back, but in modern clothing, except Jamie who generally looked like he did in the first season. Murtaugh alive,Germaine playing with a butterfly. Jocasta can see, Fergus has his hand, Ian in the native military gear from Vietnam.The 2 cops who come to tell her Brie & Roger died were Brown & Hodgepile. Needs a rewatch just to catch all the Easter eggs.What Jamie said to her when they were on the porch," If my last words aren't 'I love you' before I die, you'll know I didn't have time". Words from Diana's husband Doug to her, minus the Scottish accent.
In the book, Jamie wanted to have sex with Claire in case she got pregnant from the rapes. That way, he knows the child could be his. Jamie is very smart as well he makes Claire safe. Great review Imon.
Claire agreed rather readily. But first!!! a nice round of penicillin, which Jamie doesn't readily agree to. He's always willing to avoid any more of her nasty sharp shots! But she insists either he doesn't touch her until she's had enough penicillin to ensure she's not caught something nasty, or they both get the shots.
It may seem callous but the slaughtering of the rapists scene is one of my favorite of the entire series. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s the ruthlessness they showed for Claire or maybe it’s bc they deserved it more than nearly anyone in the series (other than Jack Randall) but it’s a very touching scene.
Jamie really does contrast against especially vile male characters as a shining example of how a man ought to be vs how he most certainly ought not to be. I can only hope that my future wife one day says she feels safe with me, and means it. And even I who've always more naturally and easily related to and liked male characters as a man myself can't help but look up to Claire as a person of inexorable strength. She reminds me of my mother, single parent and the strongest person I know. Claire's character is one of the best written ones of all time.
i love this show and wouldn’t change it. but sometimes it does feel like the SA is a bit excessive and the way all the victims have to face their abusers each time is a lot.
also the fact that Fergus is a survivor as well of SA as a child and an amputee, I personally like show Fergus better than book Fergus but the fact that he's there to mirror them when they need him, Jaime almost loosing a limb and now Claire needing justice after her kidnapping
Another ''In the book..." comment-- Jamie is so keyed up in furious battle mind-set that when he finds Claire he can't find his English words. He can only speak Gaelic, reminding us that is actually his native language. Claire has learned some Gaelic over the years, but nothing is clear to her until Ian pops up to translate.
I loved that in the book.
Sometimes even revenge is a necessary option. You can't always be forgiving.
Yes, such a heavy episode, but I love that they included (and that you focused on) the positives... the relationships, the support, the feeling of safety that Claire feels with Jamie. There is so much bad in this world but there is so much good too. We need to recognise and nurture the good!
Caitriona should have won all the awards for her acting in this episode
Rough but one of the best episodes of the series.
Also shout out to Ian’s fighting skills. I’ve rewatched that fight a million times.
“KILL THEM ALL”
Very deep reaction😢 Claire is thinking of an alternate time in the 1960s where her family appears to be safe and well❤
Claire is also my all time favorite character she's just SO SO strong and has such a huge heart ❤️🩹 such a special character.
The alternate reality that Claire's brain takes her to is FILLED with Easter eggs. It's like a physical depiction of her mind, her memories, her SELF. It's in the 20th century, but the people are all from the 18th. Jamie wrapped her in a blanket said, "Yer shaking so hard it's making my teeth rattle." I think that's a core memory for her. The day she fell through the stones was arguably the most baffling, terrifying day of her life, but it's also the day she met the love of her life. The blue vase from the first episode, symbolizing home, is also there. There is a behind-the-scenes video that goes into a bit of detail about the props and what episodes they refer to. Jocasta isn't blind. Fergus has both hands. Murtagh's alive. But my favorite detail is the orange. Remember when she went to the king of France for Jamie's freedom from the Bastille? She made a point to grab the orange on the way out. It symbolizes her dignity.
This abduction actually happened in book 6, but book 5 and 6 story lines were kind of interwoven (like how Stephen Bonnet's death is in book 6), so it's not that out-of-place. But it is simplified down. Lionel Brown wasn't the ringleader of the gang. It was actually Hodgepile, the guy who was wearing the bastardized British redcoat. The Browns were dragged into it against their will after the gang captured Alicia Beardsley. (Remember the part black baby girl Claire delivered who legally was the heir to the Beardsley estate that the Browns took in?) As for the rape, it wasn't as bad in the book (though still obviously traumatic). The teenage boy just dry-humped her. Hodgepile beat her, but didn't actually rape her. Donner pretended to harm her but didn't. And then there was one man who raped her "gently," pretending she was his dead wife.
It's not that important, but I was really touched by a moment in the book after they arrived back at the Ridge, Claire asked about Fergus, Ian, and Roger. Jamie was startled that she'd be concerned about them after what she went through, but I find it so fitting that a mother would be concerned about her sons. (She may not have birthed them, but they are definitely her sons.)
Marsali didn't kill Lionel. Mrs. Bug did. It was much the same. He was mocking her, belittling her as a woman, and she just snapped. I guess they changed it to give Marsali a bigger role. (Marsali also wasn't studying medicine under Claire, but they did that to give the actress more to do.)
Roger and Bree didn't attempt to go through the stones. I'm not sure why they made that change, to be honest. The only explanation I can think of is to make it more clear that it really is not simple travelling through the stones. The books make it clear it's really jarring, nearly killing you every time you go through. Geillis' journals made it clear that not only do people disappear there, but dead bodies appear in strange clothes sometimes.
@MeyaRoseGirl : They had Roger and Bree trying to go trough the stones because they didn't wanted them there when Claire would have been taken, and since in the show Bree and Roger were already talking about going away this gave the writers an excuse for not to have them around :) ! .
@@giuliapicchiotti What difference would it have made if Bree was back at her cabin and Roger was with the men when the still exploded? The end result would have been the same that Claire and Marsali got attacked with only Germain witnessing. The change in the show meant that a moment I really liked from the book couldn't be in it. Claire knew they'd come for her, and she first knew they'd arrived when the woods were suddenly filled with the sound of a steady bodhran drum and knew it must be Roger.
No, I think it was just to add depth to the danger of the stones. Plus that episode had Lord John showing up inexplicably, and he's not in book 5 at all, and he's only at the very end of book 6. I think that was just because he's a fan favorite character and to remind us that William exists.
The symbolism behind this episode is pure gold. The orange (the same one she took when she had to sleep with the king of France to free Jaime) represents her dignity, above all she is always worthy; the vase from episode 1 representing a mixture of the future (her past) and that home she always wanted; the wallpaper that is the same as that of Lallybroch that was also his home, a safe haven for his soul and his heart at that time. Plus, Jamie is the only one who stays dressed like he's from the past because Claire knows in her heart that staying in the future means Jamie will always stay in the past. On the other hand, in the book this sequence of events is amazing, the way Claire tells what is happening around her, the sound of the drums, the screams in the style of Viking warriors, Jamie speaking only in Gaelic. It is as precious as it is painful.
I love the message you give at the end good episode love the video imon Nation stay motivated Dream big 1 mill on the way
On the house, she wore a red dress too, like in Versailles.
And Germain played with a dragonfly...
Another wonderfully thoughtful reaction from you, Imon. You are a rare gem amongst the folk here on UA-cam who do these kinds of videos. Most of them (not all, but most) tend to be one dimensional and basically 'act' their reactions, by way of exaggerated expressions and noises of surprise, disgust, laughter, etc. They essentially give their audience what they perceive is expected by them, little knowing that all they do is come across false or superficial. You on the other hand are a genuine philosopher and consider deeply the stories that you're watching.
Regarding this one, the only thing that you said which I disagree with is the part about admiring Claire for sticking to her oath. I take on board all that you said, but for me, it shows up why no-one should ever take an oath of any kind, no matter how admirable it appears on the surface. Life and its vicissitudes are never static, whereas an oath is crystalised in place from the outset. In the example of the show, Claire's rigid adherence to the Hippocratic Oath - i.e. 'first do no harm' - ironically caused HER severe psychological harm and no doubt would have caused other people to have been harmed had Lionel been allowed to live and recover. Doing the 'right thing' is hardly ever a black and white prospect, but in this story Claire's loyalty curtailed her from taking the appropriate action and therefore it fell to other people to make up for her well meaning yet ultimately misguided shortcoming.
I really appreciate the kind compliment, thank you.
I really can’t argue against what you’re saying. You make great points. I guess an oath could be like a religious belief and when it’s put that way it’s hard to defend it.. a lot of the strongest beliefs people have in this series as well as the real world have caused some of the cruelest torturous punishments/harm to people.
So In a way an oath, even though it is meant well, can put people in harms way.
So I agree with you when you put it that way. I’ll be thinking about this for a while lol.
So many throw backs to previous episodes in her "safe" place. Dialogue exactly the same. The vase, the painting of the 'New House". All the characters back, but in modern clothing, except Jamie who generally looked like he did in the first season. Murtaugh alive,Germaine playing with a butterfly. Jocasta can see, Fergus has his hand, Ian in the native military gear from Vietnam.The 2 cops who come to tell her Brie & Roger died were Brown & Hodgepile. Needs a rewatch just to catch all the Easter eggs.What Jamie said to her when they were on the porch," If my last words aren't 'I love you' before I die, you'll know I didn't have time". Words from Diana's husband Doug to her, minus the Scottish accent.
In the book, Jamie wanted to have sex with Claire in case she got pregnant from the rapes. That way, he knows the child could be his. Jamie is very smart as well he makes Claire safe. Great review Imon.
Claire agreed rather readily. But first!!! a nice round of penicillin, which Jamie doesn't readily agree to. He's always willing to avoid any more of her nasty sharp shots! But she insists either he doesn't touch her until she's had enough penicillin to ensure she's not caught something nasty, or they both get the shots.
@Victoria-Lesly I don’t think that’s a spoil. Just an insight. Sorry if I seemed to be a spoiler. Not meant.
It may seem callous but the slaughtering of the rapists scene is one of my favorite of the entire series. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s the ruthlessness they showed for Claire or maybe it’s bc they deserved it more than nearly anyone in the series (other than Jack Randall) but it’s a very touching scene.
Jamie really does contrast against especially vile male characters as a shining example of how a man ought to be vs how he most certainly ought not to be. I can only hope that my future wife one day says she feels safe with me, and means it. And even I who've always more naturally and easily related to and liked male characters as a man myself can't help but look up to Claire as a person of inexorable strength. She reminds me of my mother, single parent and the strongest person I know. Claire's character is one of the best written ones of all time.
Another amazing reaction video Imon 😀😀😀😀.
i love this show and wouldn’t change it. but sometimes it does feel like the SA is a bit excessive and the way all the victims have to face their abusers each time is a lot.
Man, next season's opening song is so good.
also the fact that Fergus is a survivor as well of SA as a child and an amputee, I personally like show Fergus better than book Fergus but the fact that he's there to mirror them when they need him, Jaime almost loosing a limb and now Claire needing justice after her kidnapping
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