Kevin is good people. Well, now Kevin is many people as the digitized A.I. version is showing up at alot more jam sessions that a singular singer ever could, lol. Yes, Kevin is good people.
This is one of the coolest VST's ever, it's able to really help bring tunes to completion, and ones own learning of soundscaping that includes working with a form of a vocalist. Brilliant stuff. Next, make it so each word sample can be dragged and dropped outside of the Synthesizer V studio pianoroll, and able to move around individually in say the pianoroll of DAW's such as for FL Studio. Maybe MPE could be applied to map for Synthesizer V's expression features or to external midi hardware, or built in joysticks and trigger faders and buttons of a portable game system computer such as with a midi mappable GPD Win3 handheld windows device, using a Jamstik MPE midi guitar. Right now, Fl Studio lacks MPE, though Ableton LIVE and some others do allow for that. I use this VST pretty much every time with new material. Thankyou for being born, you and your A.I.
This is not a VST plugin. This is a Vocal Synth Software which is used mostly as a separate application from a DAW based on my experience. EDIT: I really apologize for arguing about this. I just realized that any Vocal Synth Software such as VOCALOID, UTAU, Synth V and others can work as a VST. I thought at first that Vocal Synth Softwares are mostly used independently from DAW and when used alongside them, they might not work well… My comment was based on my experience as an UTAU user that’s why… Once again I’m sorry…
@@UtaKure I would be curious to know which group is bigger, meaning the group of people who use it in (mostly) original music composition or the group of people who use it to make covers on places like youtube and do not use any DAW. My guess is that you belong to the people who use are part of the vocaloid community, which now seems quite a substantial group? I was so surprised to find such a following existed and was so seperated from typical DAW music creators. I wonder why do they not use DAWS? I have the impression that in the group of people who use DAWS to make original music most are not aware of the existance of this software at all. And if they are aware of the existance of this type of software, they usually only know the real and pretty obviously old and relatively fake sounding vocaloid voices. I think once more people in the typical DAW community hear about this, it will get very popular because it's simply so good. I am not sure when that happens, but I'm pretty sure that will happen, given that the voices and software will likely only get better. This is the only time in my 20 years experience in the DAW world where I was so instantly impressed by a vst that it made me buy it the next day I heard about it. Again, thank you Dreamtonics for making such an impressive product!
@@PowerRedBullTypology Yes, I do belong to a community just like the Vocaloid community which is called the UTAU community. Also, I am aware about the existence of DAWs and I ONLY use them to mix vocals for covers of Japanese/English Vocaloid songs. I used to use REAPER to mix my UTAU covers but I recently made the switch to FL Studio Basic so yeah… Oh and by the way, I never made an original Japanese or English Vocal Synth song before. I am a cover artist who primarily uses UTAU, OpenUTAU, SynthV, DeepVocal (Sometimes), and ACE STUDIO (I used it before it had a paywall…)… I also wish to audition as a Filipino/English/Japanese voice provider for any potential new plans for a new voicebank in Synth V too lol
@@UtaKure What I am curious about is that if you use someone else's voice sing someone else's song, then what is the fun in doing that? You are doing neither of these things after all?
It would be incredible if the notes in the lower region of synth V would simultaneously be displayed as regular midi notes in a DAW. I am very good with moving notes around in my DAW (cubase), but still struggle to correctly do that in synth v. The whole process of even copying notes is so vastly different. Also, in my DAW is have colors which are different for each pitch or note and make it easy to see if i select a note in my key whereas in synth V all notes are the same color. So I would really, really appreciate the option to use more similar key commands as typcial DAWS to edit notes in synth V (such as copy a note by dragging and dropping and holding the ALT key) and the options for colors for different notes or the ability to edit the synth V notes from your DAW synth V channel, so basically edit it directly inside your DAW like any other instrument. OF course there would be no lyrics there, but at least we can move around the notes in a more comfortable way. Now the synth V channel in our DAW is just a completely empty channel that is not being used. So basically it would make it so much easier if we could just have synth V more integrated in our DAW or functioning more similar to our DAW. However, it may not be technically possible. I am not sure about that of course. The software is still great regardless though!
That is what I was saying about the pianoroll. Ya it would make the process more arrangeable and seemless, faster even. And, the tiny scrollbar in SynthV is too easy to bump into or difficult to grab onto, it should be more prominent in its width and resizable like how FL Studio does it. You are presently able to drag n drop INTO SynthV, just not to DAW pianorolls, yet though in theory the process is really entirely possible. It involves each dragged element to either suddenly become recorded as a sound clip 'during' the action of the dragging part before dropping it into place, or, to generate a type of mirror that doesnt have to move the sound clip outside of SynthV, but only a ghost version of each sound clip so that you can easily move the ghost around, and that ghost can control the placement of the actual sound clip that was generated inside of SynthV.
@@truetech4158Also, what I find a struggle in synth V is just to copy parts of songs. Let's say I make a song with instrumentation and a synth V voice, have made a chorus and verse and I want another chorus and verse. Now I can not just select everything in my DAW and copy and paste it or drag it (alt drag) , because the synth V stuff is not copied along with it. I have to go inside synth V, then make a group out of all the notes, then position it excatly where it needs to be further along the line. If your melody does not start on beat 1 you even have to tediously figure out exactly where you need to drop it to make it align with your music. There are no ultra clear clear bars visible in synth V like in a daw and when you group things, they do not become full bars either. Songs usually are construcuted of let's say 4, 8 of whatever bars. This makes copy and paste as simple as that in most songs...but synth V creates this needlessly complicated way of handling this. I get that there are cases where what tehy are doing is better, but for most everyday situatoins the simple way it works in daws is so much more more time efficient. I'm very, very grateful to get the results we can get with this, but whereas I find working my daw relaxing, the synth V parts are always more of a needless struggle than they could be. Also, whenever you have 1 note that overlaps, then none of these notes it plays. Because the notse overlaps, SynthV should undersatnd this is not intentional, as it's now not gonna play 2 notes. However, it does nothing to solve it automatically. At least an option to simply cut off the previous note if the new one starts would avoid this problem and would save so many people needless time. Now I have to zoom in, look for a note that overlaps, wait again till it has processed it, whereas it could just have processed it correctly. If someone would want another way to handle this, then give them the option to handle it the way it's handled now.
@@PowerRedBullTypologyHi! I bought the software and have not tried to learn it. Reading this is stressing me out. How did you learn to get this far! Are there tutorials in English you can recommend! The workflow sounds tedious. Hahaha. I thought you could just sing a song and export midi into S-V and type in lyrics? Thanks
@@hannahbackward Ok, want to be clear that synth V is not hard to operate on itself, so do not let my comment make you doubt buying it. It's wonderful high quality software that is not complex to learn. However, I do think if you are used to how DAWS work like cubase, ableton, logic , some things are just easier there, as in the steps you have to take in order to make them work are sometimes lower. However, at the same time learning a DAW is much more complex than synth V is, because a DAW does many things and synth V does only 1 thing. So if you are afraid that learning how synth V works, I do not think you have to be afraid. It's not that type of complicated. I think pretty much everyone can easily learn how it all works and it's technically not difficult to learn. It's mostly the seperation of how every other instruemnt works in daws and synth v as instruemnt is oprerated very differently which slows down my workflow. I've also not used the workflow you present myself with singing something as that requires cubase 12 where I am on cubase 11.This means that pluging that is needed (likely?)does not work for me. Also, I'm aslo more comfortable playing the keys than singing myself, as I'm not a very good singer at all, so I do not mind that much. SO it's certainly possible that is very easy to do. As far as documention I do think you need to know where to look for good documentation in english at least, since that is not the langauge they focus on most. So for manuals you might be better of with an unofficial manual. You could try manual.synthv.info/ or just google it or search google for people that ask this on reddit (always easy option) so type "synth V documentation english reddit" and you will find other people that want the same. Also, if you have discord I suggest you can join the discord "synthv unofficial' and ask questions there if you have them. However, mostly synthV is not that complex to learn and for the most part you do not need an instruction manuel. I hope you will have fun with your synth V software!
@@PowerRedBullTypologyRight on! I think part of my problem is I am watching and reading advanced topics about it. I’m like wait I want to know how to program ten notes and make them sound good and learning all the features. I am an original songwriter so many times I have the melody finished that’s why I asked the question about converting vocal to midi and exporting it to Synth V. I figured it would be a quick way to get the blobs into the software. I need to just jump into it and play around. I can’t sing well either. 😢 Once I get the S-V vocal back into my DAW I can do a bunch with it obviously. I can even keep tuning with auto tune or Melodyne if necessary. I will check your link for learning. The Dreamtonics tutorials are in Chinese and if I read the English subtitles I can’t watch the demo. Haha. I also saw a comment by someone saying he has a track in his Daw with S-V on it and there was no need for rendering which is like I said before too much info before I even install the software. I’m backward like my name suggests
A voicebank alone is usually around $70- $90 and could be used with the free lite version of SynthV software. The pro version of SynthV software which has more features such as vocal modes, Japanese to English singing, ect. is $90. There is a bundle that is $150 which has the pro version and a choice of one voicebank. Definitely worth it if you are an experimental songwriter needing vocals that sound as good as real singers.
If you happen to wonder which voice to buy ; go with Solaria. The best all round singer and also a good middle of the read female voice that works in most songs. I'd say most people would agree with this.
@@PowerRedBullTypology i think any eclipsed sounds bank is pretty good, ive heard great things about solaria and asterian and im in love with saros, theyre so easy and fun to work with
@@blobof4294 I agree that Eclipsed Sounds in general has the best quality. It tends to sound less synthetic than Dreamtonics. However, in terms of usability I think Solaria is the best becasue both she is a very, very good singer and on top of that her voice is quite 'generic' and thus suitable for any kind of music without influencing it too much. So in that sense it's a bread and buttter voice. Eclipsed also has Asterian for example, which is good quality wise, but he has such a very low and typical type of voice that makes it not fit everything. I would say the same about Saros. Quality wise nothing wrong with it, but I personally find Saros very whiny and feminine sounding, which might not always be what you want for every song. However, if you strongly like that, then you can of course use any voices in all your songs, but I would say as first voice something a bit more bread and butter might be a smarter option.
I'm so glad the parameters are finally being discussed in these tutorials it's one of the main factors on how people make SynthV sound really emotive
Nice to see Kevin still getting recognition. 💚
Yeah, Kevin is one of my favorite SynthV voicebanks!
Kevin is good people. Well, now Kevin is many people as the digitized A.I. version is showing up at alot more jam sessions that a singular singer ever could, lol. Yes, Kevin is good people.
Best boy
Nice one, please do more of this.
Ooo! Thankies for this! I’m still learning how to use, this helps a lot 🙏✨
This is one of the coolest VST's ever, it's able to really help bring tunes to completion, and ones own learning of soundscaping that includes working with a form of a vocalist. Brilliant stuff.
Next, make it so each word sample can be dragged and dropped outside of the Synthesizer V studio pianoroll, and able to move around individually in say the pianoroll of DAW's such as for FL Studio. Maybe MPE could be applied to map for Synthesizer V's expression features or to external midi hardware, or built in joysticks and trigger faders and buttons of a portable game system computer such as with a midi mappable GPD Win3 handheld windows device, using a Jamstik MPE midi guitar. Right now, Fl Studio lacks MPE, though Ableton LIVE and some others do allow for that.
I use this VST pretty much every time with new material.
Thankyou for being born, you and your A.I.
This is not a VST plugin. This is a Vocal Synth Software which is used mostly as a separate application from a DAW based on my experience.
EDIT: I really apologize for arguing about this. I just realized that any Vocal Synth Software such as VOCALOID, UTAU, Synth V and others can work as a VST. I thought at first that Vocal Synth Softwares are mostly used independently from DAW and when used alongside them, they might not work well… My comment was based on my experience as an UTAU user that’s why… Once again I’m sorry…
@@UtaKure I would be curious to know which group is bigger, meaning the group of people who use it in (mostly) original music composition or the group of people who use it to make covers on places like youtube and do not use any DAW. My guess is that you belong to the people who use are part of the vocaloid community, which now seems quite a substantial group? I was so surprised to find such a following existed and was so seperated from typical DAW music creators. I wonder why do they not use DAWS?
I have the impression that in the group of people who use DAWS to make original music most are not aware of the existance of this software at all. And if they are aware of the existance of this type of software, they usually only know the real and pretty obviously old and relatively fake sounding vocaloid voices. I think once more people in the typical DAW community hear about this, it will get very popular because it's simply so good. I am not sure when that happens, but I'm pretty sure that will happen, given that the voices and software will likely only get better.
This is the only time in my 20 years experience in the DAW world where I was so instantly impressed by a vst that it made me buy it the next day I heard about it.
Again, thank you Dreamtonics for making such an impressive product!
@@PowerRedBullTypology Yes, I do belong to a community just like the Vocaloid community which is called the UTAU community.
Also, I am aware about the existence of DAWs and I ONLY use them to mix vocals for covers of Japanese/English Vocaloid songs. I used to use REAPER to mix my UTAU covers but I recently made the switch to FL Studio Basic so yeah…
Oh and by the way, I never made an original Japanese or English Vocal Synth song before. I am a cover artist who primarily uses UTAU, OpenUTAU, SynthV, DeepVocal (Sometimes), and ACE STUDIO (I used it before it had a paywall…)…
I also wish to audition as a Filipino/English/Japanese voice provider for any potential new plans for a new voicebank in Synth V too lol
@@UtaKure What I am curious about is that if you use someone else's voice sing someone else's song, then what is the fun in doing that? You are doing neither of these things after all?
@@UtaKure Not any vocal synth software. I don't think UTAU has a VST.
It would be incredible if the notes in the lower region of synth V would simultaneously be displayed as regular midi notes in a DAW. I am very good with moving notes around in my DAW (cubase), but still struggle to correctly do that in synth v. The whole process of even copying notes is so vastly different. Also, in my DAW is have colors which are different for each pitch or note and make it easy to see if i select a note in my key whereas in synth V all notes are the same color.
So I would really, really appreciate the option to use more similar key commands as typcial DAWS to edit notes in synth V (such as copy a note by dragging and dropping and holding the ALT key) and the options for colors for different notes or the ability to edit the synth V notes from your DAW synth V channel, so basically edit it directly inside your DAW like any other instrument. OF course there would be no lyrics there, but at least we can move around the notes in a more comfortable way. Now the synth V channel in our DAW is just a completely empty channel that is not being used. So basically it would make it so much easier if we could just have synth V more integrated in our DAW or functioning more similar to our DAW.
However, it may not be technically possible. I am not sure about that of course. The software is still great regardless though!
That is what I was saying about the pianoroll.
Ya it would make the process more arrangeable and seemless, faster even.
And, the tiny scrollbar in SynthV is too easy to bump into or difficult to grab onto, it should be more prominent in its width and resizable like how FL Studio does it.
You are presently able to drag n drop INTO SynthV, just not to DAW pianorolls, yet though in theory the process is really entirely possible. It involves each dragged element to either suddenly become recorded as a sound clip 'during' the action of the dragging part before dropping it into place, or, to generate a type of mirror that doesnt have to move the sound clip outside of SynthV, but only a ghost version of each sound clip so that you can easily move the ghost around, and that ghost can control the placement of the actual sound clip that was generated inside of SynthV.
@@truetech4158Also, what I find a struggle in synth V is just to copy parts of songs. Let's say I make a song with instrumentation and a synth V voice, have made a chorus and verse and I want another chorus and verse. Now I can not just select everything in my DAW and copy and paste it or drag it (alt drag) , because the synth V stuff is not copied along with it. I have to go inside synth V, then make a group out of all the notes, then position it excatly where it needs to be further along the line. If your melody does not start on beat 1 you even have to tediously figure out exactly where you need to drop it to make it align with your music. There are no ultra clear clear bars visible in synth V like in a daw and when you group things, they do not become full bars either. Songs usually are construcuted of let's say 4, 8 of whatever bars. This makes copy and paste as simple as that in most songs...but synth V creates this needlessly complicated way of handling this. I get that there are cases where what tehy are doing is better, but for most everyday situatoins the simple way it works in daws is so much more more time efficient.
I'm very, very grateful to get the results we can get with this, but whereas I find working my daw relaxing, the synth V parts are always more of a needless struggle than they could be.
Also, whenever you have 1 note that overlaps, then none of these notes it plays. Because the notse overlaps, SynthV should undersatnd this is not intentional, as it's now not gonna play 2 notes. However, it does nothing to solve it automatically. At least an option to simply cut off the previous note if the new one starts would avoid this problem and would save so many people needless time. Now I have to zoom in, look for a note that overlaps, wait again till it has processed it, whereas it could just have processed it correctly. If someone would want another way to handle this, then give them the option to handle it the way it's handled now.
@@PowerRedBullTypologyHi! I bought the software and have not tried to learn it. Reading this is stressing me out. How did you learn to get this far! Are there tutorials in English you can recommend! The workflow sounds tedious. Hahaha. I thought you could just sing a song and export midi into S-V and type in lyrics? Thanks
@@hannahbackward Ok, want to be clear that synth V is not hard to operate on itself, so do not let my comment make you doubt buying it. It's wonderful high quality software that is not complex to learn. However, I do think if you are used to how DAWS work like cubase, ableton, logic , some things are just easier there, as in the steps you have to take in order to make them work are sometimes lower.
However, at the same time learning a DAW is much more complex than synth V is, because a DAW does many things and synth V does only 1 thing. So if you are afraid that learning how synth V works, I do not think you have to be afraid. It's not that type of complicated. I think pretty much everyone can easily learn how it all works and it's technically not difficult to learn. It's mostly the seperation of how every other instruemnt works in daws and synth v as instruemnt is oprerated very differently which slows down my workflow.
I've also not used the workflow you present myself with singing something as that requires cubase 12 where I am on cubase 11.This means that pluging that is needed (likely?)does not work for me. Also, I'm aslo more comfortable playing the keys than singing myself, as I'm not a very good singer at all, so I do not mind that much. SO it's certainly possible that is very easy to do.
As far as documention I do think you need to know where to look for good documentation in english at least, since that is not the langauge they focus on most. So for manuals you might be better of with an unofficial manual. You could try manual.synthv.info/ or just google it or search google for people that ask this on reddit (always easy option) so type "synth V documentation english reddit" and you will find other people that want the same.
Also, if you have discord I suggest you can join the discord "synthv unofficial' and ask questions there if you have them. However, mostly synthV is not that complex to learn and for the most part you do not need an instruction manuel.
I hope you will have fun with your synth V software!
@@PowerRedBullTypologyRight on! I think part of my problem is I am watching and reading advanced topics about it. I’m like wait I want to know how to program ten notes and make them sound good and learning all the features. I am an original songwriter so many times I have the melody finished that’s why I asked the question about converting vocal to midi and exporting it to Synth V. I figured it would be a quick way to get the blobs into the software. I need to just jump into it and play around. I can’t sing well either. 😢 Once I get the S-V vocal back into my DAW I can do a bunch with it obviously. I can even keep tuning with auto tune or Melodyne if necessary. I will check your link for learning. The Dreamtonics tutorials are in Chinese and if I read the English subtitles I can’t watch the demo. Haha. I also saw a comment by someone saying he has a track in his Daw with S-V on it and there was no need for rendering which is like I said before too much info before I even install the software. I’m backward like my name suggests
How much is it? 🤔
A voicebank alone is usually around $70- $90 and could be used with the free lite version of SynthV software. The pro version of SynthV software which has more features such as vocal modes, Japanese to English singing, ect. is $90. There is a bundle that is $150 which has the pro version and a choice of one voicebank. Definitely worth it if you are an experimental songwriter needing vocals that sound as good as real singers.
If you happen to wonder which voice to buy ; go with Solaria. The best all round singer and also a good middle of the read female voice that works in most songs. I'd say most people would agree with this.
@@PowerRedBullTypology i think any eclipsed sounds bank is pretty good, ive heard great things about solaria and asterian and im in love with saros, theyre so easy and fun to work with
@@blobof4294 I agree that Eclipsed Sounds in general has the best quality. It tends to sound less synthetic than Dreamtonics. However, in terms of usability I think Solaria is the best becasue both she is a very, very good singer and on top of that her voice is quite 'generic' and thus suitable for any kind of music without influencing it too much. So in that sense it's a bread and buttter voice.
Eclipsed also has Asterian for example, which is good quality wise, but he has such a very low and typical type of voice that makes it not fit everything. I would say the same about Saros. Quality wise nothing wrong with it, but I personally find Saros very whiny and feminine sounding, which might not always be what you want for every song.
However, if you strongly like that, then you can of course use any voices in all your songs, but I would say as first voice something a bit more bread and butter might be a smarter option.