Support What we do at the Katz-Moses Tools Store: KMtools.com *Tools Discussed in This Video* *Marking Knife* - shop.kmtools.com/MarkingKnife *Marking Gauge (micro adjust)* shop.kmtools.com/mgbrassma *Marking Gauge* shop.kmtools.com/mrkg *Center Punch* shop.kmtools.com/centerpunch *Blem Squares* lddy.no/120n3 *Blem Rulers* lddy.no/127tj *Double Squares* lddy.no/127tm *Dividers* lddy.no/127tn *Digital Calipers* lddy.no/mpl3 *Bevel Gauge* lddy.no/127tp ---- *Time Stamps* *Intro* 0:00 *Why Accuracy Matters* 0:17 *How I use Tools For Accuracy* 3:49 *Accuracy on the Table Saw* 9:27 *Accuracy on the Drill Press* 13:17 *Accuracy with a Router: 15:20 *Final Thoughts* 16:49
Awesome book that gives you step-by-step photos ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt and directions to make every day project. I can see myself making a few of these projects and giving them as housewarming and holiday gifts!
I literally was thinking this morning that the bane of my woodworking existence is inaccurate measuring and cutting, and here you are the same day giving me my solution! You rock!
Another advantage to using the marking knife is you cut the wood fibers on the surface so when you make your cut with either a hand or power tool there is much less chance of tear out or splintering.
My belief is that accuracy is important, but consistency is more important. If one part is 1/64 off, that will show. If ALL of your parts are 1/64 off, that won't show. When I cut multiple parts, I try and cut them all at the same time with a single machine setup.
This has been one of my key takeaways from Chris Salamone's videos - planning the cutlist in batches of same-size/angle to minimise the opportunities to introduce errors, using already-cut pieces as reference for the next piece instead of assuming that those perfect calcuations have transferred flawlessly to the real world, and where necessary taking multiple passes and test-fits to sneak up on a perfect *fit* instead of aiming directly for what you think is the perfect *measurement*. JKM's advice here is all spot-on for the accuracy half of the equation but like he said himself, the best woodworkers are the ones who can fix their mistakes. Consistency and logical workflows are two of the best ways to do that :)
Exactly! Repeatability and Reproduceability are super important for most forms of engineering/manufacturing/quality control/medicine, etc, and woodworking. And metalworking. And cooking. Ok this is getting long 😂
@@alterworks7212 Sure. And 640kb is obviously enough for anyone. Why bother with microns when we have inches right? Accuracy, Progress, pffft. All we need is duct tape. And marketing.
For us simple weekend DIYers this is pure gold!! Thank you Jonathan; I've had the exact problem with compounded errors when making simple drawers for my garage shop. My woodworking game will benefit 10x from just this video alone!! (BTW, love the eStore; I went ahead and picked up a marking gauge and a JKM stop block because I want to be cool like you, good Sir!) Cheers!
So much good information here! I've only recently started using a marking knife and I have found my cuts to be way more accurate. But what you shared with us here is mind-blowing for me! I don't have enough space here to tell you how thankful I am for this well-produced and informative video. Mad love for Mr. Katz-Moses!!
these so many good and even great woodworkers who won't do this or simply don't know. but even as a beginner learning and applying this expert knowledge sets you up for success ever time. 10/10 loved it so much
Every new woodworker should watch this video multiple times before picking up a tool and again after getting started. I learned some of these things the hard way. That, plus many of the guys in my local woodworking club say that woodworking is not that accurate. They scoff at William Ng using a feeler gauge. Good on you AND William!
I've watched probably 200 UA-cam vids on woodworking and I learned more from this than all of them combined 😳 for where I'm at anyway. Props man thank you 🙏 🙏💯
You are a great teacher and a great resource of information for newbs like myself that want to make the leap to the next level of their learning curve. Thank you.
Thank you for teaching the next generation about this subject. I work at Caterpillar and this is one of the top subjects for people to learn. Different type of work but same principle.
I used the trick with the punch and knife to set my saddle and carry a line over the edge. The dowels in my panel glue up were bang-on centre. Awesome tips!
So true!...the digital caliper and a knife has replaced my tape and pencil... Cutting kumiko half lap joints for a shoji screen, using a box joint jig;-18 cuts over a 8ft length, 0.001 inaccuracy would screw up the whole layout. One lesson I learned was to start in the middle and cut the variation in half! Love your vids!
Thanks Jonathan!! This explains why those jewelry box lids never fitted so well! ;). It taught me lots on how to plane in awkward places (to un-square the lid so it fit in the wonky opening). But, now that I have marking gauges and knives I don’t have those problems any more. Well, not as much. Ok…. I’m not perfect. I like to prove I’m human!! I think I have the same marking gauge addiction you have. I ordered one from your new tools store. Couldn’t help myself! Your products are always so nice. Fine tools at a good price. More like exceptional tools at a good price. The exceptional part is the quality to cost ratio. The quality of your products always exceeds the cost expectation.
Once again great information for someone starting out. Thanks Jonathan. So marking knife.. check. Marking guage..check. Callipers.. check. Square..check. 😁
As good as his tips are, I for one am not sure about putting your finger on the top of table saw blade, or on the spindle of the router.Always found it best to run or router a piece of scrap to check for error/ accuracy of setup. Stay safe guys
I love Taylor Toolworks 👍 My blem 12" combo and 6" double square are in constant use. You are the second person who has referenced using the same measuring device when working. When I did that with my last project, the accuracy was incredible. Most dead on project I have ever created. Love my center punch as well. I always use it when drilling holes. Got tired of my drill bit wandering, especially in softer wood. You are one of the first creators I look at when starting a project and need pointers. You are also the person who helped me see how everything is not "perfect". I had an incredibly hard time with that when I first started and regularly wanted to scrap a project. When you stated that the mistake didn't matter, learning how to fix it did, it changed my outlook and helped me become much less frustrated. Thanks for the great info.
Best instruction on accuracy I've seen using these tools. Thank you. I go to auctions all the time and over 6 months ago I bought a box full of wood working tools and most of these you covered are in that box and many are new. Now it is time to get them out and use them. Thanks again.
Very well done Jonathan as usual. Your support staff does an awesome job also. I tried to download your free router table plans, had a problem with it, emailed support and had a reply with a new plan link THE SAME DAY! Thank you. Congrats on the new tool venture, I look forward to watching it grow. :)
On the rare occasion I use a hand saw I found about 20 years ago that, after knife marking my line, to chisel a bevel out the whole way down like you started. It really helps the cut start out good for me as I have roughly 0 points invested in handsawing. EDIT: I have an obsession for marking knives like you do for gauges. To the point where the reason I learned how to forge weld in blacksmithing was to make a "Damascus" pattern welded marking knife. I know have made 8 of them lol.
Would be nice with a video showing all the typical and creative ways of finding and marking centers on different objects, distributed marks, symmetrical marks, transferring marks from one piece to another, etc.
Chasing square yes. I always say take the time even if it seams an eternity to to start square or plum or both depending. My saying is “A mistake will haunt you all the way through a project” . All great tips. .
Great video! My college professors would love this. This reminded me of every physics, engineering, chemistry and math lecture about accuracy and precision. I especially appreciated the part about using the same take measure. I would go further than that. You need to do inter-comparisons of your measuring devices and only mix use those that match up and toss out, donate, whatever... Everything that isn't square.
These are undoubtedly some amazing tips, however i feel like this is addressed to professionals rather weekend woodworkers. Personally, i have contractor level tools and i do my best to make them precise and square them up, but realistically no matter how much time i will spend on precise marking i’m pretty sure most of my cuts will be ~0.5-1mm off due to the imperfections of the tools themselves. If i ever think about making money from woodworking, i will definitely take the advice from this material.
This was one of the best videos I've seen on this sort of topic! I am ALWAYS off by a little bit and just "live with it". I am ordering the knife and bevel roller knife. Never even knew these things existed.
I love how much I learn from a short amount of time with your videos. Awesome job - I just bought one of your stop blocks and shipped to Canada - was much faster than I expected! Keep up the great work/videos. Glad I can support someone who has thought me so much already.
Well your explanation of the thickness of the hook and why the end of the tape measure moves makes total sense. I was measuring for some drawers the other day and my measurement was off by that much because of the way I used the tape measure. Now it makes total sense
I think I’ve been doing it wrong… that movement has always made me nervous, so I always push the tape “in” so that it’s next to the hook… maybe I shouldn’t be?
I have never commented on a UA-cam video, but I have to say this was a really helpful, informative video. I have recently been getting into the hobby of woodworking, and really feeling confident with the basics is something I really want to make sure I get right. Also, the template actually says, "Is anybody reading this?" Love it!!! That reminds me of the time I put that in an essay in college and still got the A from the professor!
Videos like this are always interesting to me, because of the contrast between the almost machinist-like approach to woodworking on one end of the scale, compared to the build-to-fit no-numbers methods of old style hand tool woodworking on the other. I personally lean towards the latter end of the scale, just because all the stuff I do is one-off and it has a nice low-tech appeal to it, but I can definitely appreciate both approaches.
Hi Jonathan thank you so much for everything you do, I'm watching from the uk and very new to woodworking and what you do is so Important to people like myself and really appreciate and enjoy watching you show just how things are done you are a real artist thank you. Geoff
Absolutely appreciate your videos! I'm certain that these videos will linger into the decades for future woodworker's reference if allowed to. Will hit up your shop one of these days whenever my next investment will be. Cheers!
In my professional engineering mode I use digital calipers. In my wood shop I MUCH prefer dial calipers. If you use them to set a distance (instead of measuring) you will find it vastly easier to set, say, 1.5625" with a dial. You'll dither with digitals and probably never really get it dead on. They never run out of juice, are much easier to read in low light & cost less. Yes, baseline measurements (i.e., 2 distances) require a little arithmetic but I can add and subtract with the best of them and it's not required often. It's also possible to get better than 0.0005" measurements if you can guess how far between the marks the arrow points. I use a 12" Mitutoyo dial caliper in my wood shop and wouldn't trade it for any electronic version.
Wilhelm Taylor...I'm with you; I use my Browne & Sharpe 6" dial calipers all the time. When I need to plane several boards to the same thickness, I always use my calipers to maintain very accurate thicknesses among the boards. I also use the caliper to find depths for various projects. I was a machinist until I retired, so my training in precision naturally followed me when I started woodworking.
Good video!!! Accurate measurements can help you transfer the exact measurement - length and Angeles to the piece that you work on whil you have to make a new part to make it tight fit with out measuring and guessing.
Great. I mean I knew that the wrong imprecise cuts on the long run could mess up perpendicularity and alignment in general. But damn. 0.3° shown such error, wow. Impressive. Keep it up man. Waiting for my second apron. Got one before for my dad.
Thanks for this man. You can make beautiful pieces with quick and dirty measurements, and if you know what you're doing you can get it up to 95% perfect. But the only way to get into 99-100% territory is to go the extra step and be very careful and thoughtful about what you're doing and how it will affect things 5 steps down the line. Understanding cumulative effects really takes your work to a whole new level - it is very easy to not care about 1% off the mark - do that twenty times and you've got a big problem. Excellence lies in accounting for that.
most of the time you can make small corrections as you go, hell half my projects i dont even know how i am going to do it, just what i want to make and start cutting
Love the tip about getting the tooth of the tablesaw blade in the scribeline. I have always used a pencil line so I can see the mark. I will be trying your method from now on.
Thanks for suggesting the Blem PEC combination squares on Tay Tools. I ordered the 300mm Metric, $40 bucks, got it today, checked for square, and WOW, spot on! I have been looking for a decent combo with all sides metric for a while. One of the hang ups I had was not knowing if I wanted to the hardened steel or cast iron body. The Blems on Tay Tools are the cast iron body, so I get to try it out for a very very decent price. All of my cheapo combo squares are now out of square after lots of wear, I hope the cast iron body holds up better. So thanks again, that suggestion really helps me.
This is really well done. Only one I would have added is a dial gauge on a mag base. Even a cheap one is likely the most accurate device in a wood shop. To really talk about accuracy talk to a machinist. For example, a level that is within 0.001" per 12" is shop grade.
Late comment but I mark a lot of stuff with pencil still but I also will mark a tiny X on the waste side of the cut so I know which side of the pencil line I'm referencing to. It doesn't completely fix the accuracy issue but it sure does help.
@1:36, Yes Jonathan, I'm reading it. I always read the legend. 😂 And @11:25, locking the marking gauge into the rule is a great tip. I'm going to make my first hand cut dovetails using your jig for my niece's wedding present. Well, I'm making a jewelry box not just a dovetail. LOL. So this is quite timely!
My lay-flat layout tape helped me mark panels a lot more accurately because (1) the tab can be squarely hooked on the wood edge with full contact (since you never tip the tape), (2) the tab helps tape accuracy because it’s fixed for outside measuring, (3) the tape lines are easier to “extend” onto the wood with a pencil (or knife) since the tape edge is always in contact with your stock (not curled up a 1/16”), and (4) the tape is always in great shape because it has zero ability to hold itself up when extended so it doesn’t get beaten up being used for everyday (far rougher) tasks.
Great presentation as always Jonathan. One point worth mentioning is that you're assuming there is no run-out with your Drill press quill or no run-out with your table saw shaft.👍❤
Well, that's something you should address on day 1 of buying a new/used tool. I have a great "Tune Up Tuesday" video series about making your power tools perform perfectly.
Great video. Thanks. Would like your advice on accurately marking the centre of a hole (of something like a hinge or fitting where reference point/edge is not the hole) ?
Support What we do at the Katz-Moses Tools Store: KMtools.com
*Tools Discussed in This Video*
*Marking Knife* - shop.kmtools.com/MarkingKnife
*Marking Gauge (micro adjust)* shop.kmtools.com/mgbrassma
*Marking Gauge* shop.kmtools.com/mrkg
*Center Punch* shop.kmtools.com/centerpunch
*Blem Squares* lddy.no/120n3
*Blem Rulers* lddy.no/127tj
*Double Squares* lddy.no/127tm
*Dividers* lddy.no/127tn
*Digital Calipers* lddy.no/mpl3
*Bevel Gauge* lddy.no/127tp
----
*Time Stamps*
*Intro* 0:00
*Why Accuracy Matters* 0:17
*How I use Tools For Accuracy* 3:49
*Accuracy on the Table Saw* 9:27
*Accuracy on the Drill Press* 13:17
*Accuracy with a Router: 15:20
*Final Thoughts* 16:49
There is someone using your video without your permission ua-cam.com/video/TWazste7aOs/v-deo.html
Great video. Keep them coming. Chuck
Some of these links don't work. I went looking for the marking knife and the center punch, and those two for sure don't work.
“Yes i did read it!”, is the answer to your question “Anyone reading this?” On the technical drawing: Pencil Error example”
I like how a lot of these suggestions are classic Paul Sellers mantras adjusted for power tool users. Great job JKM!
Awesome book that gives you step-by-step photos ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt and directions to make every day project. I can see myself making a few of these projects and giving them as housewarming and holiday gifts!
I literally was thinking this morning that the bane of my woodworking existence is inaccurate measuring and cutting, and here you are the same day giving me my solution! You rock!
Another advantage to using the marking knife is you cut the wood fibers on the surface so when you make your cut with either a hand or power tool there is much less chance of tear out or splintering.
My belief is that accuracy is important, but consistency is more important. If one part is 1/64 off, that will show. If ALL of your parts are 1/64 off, that won't show. When I cut multiple parts, I try and cut them all at the same time with a single machine setup.
This has been one of my key takeaways from Chris Salamone's videos - planning the cutlist in batches of same-size/angle to minimise the opportunities to introduce errors, using already-cut pieces as reference for the next piece instead of assuming that those perfect calcuations have transferred flawlessly to the real world, and where necessary taking multiple passes and test-fits to sneak up on a perfect *fit* instead of aiming directly for what you think is the perfect *measurement*.
JKM's advice here is all spot-on for the accuracy half of the equation but like he said himself, the best woodworkers are the ones who can fix their mistakes. Consistency and logical workflows are two of the best ways to do that :)
Exactly! Repeatability and Reproduceability are super important for most forms of engineering/manufacturing/quality control/medicine, etc, and woodworking. And metalworking. And cooking. Ok this is getting long 😂
yeah cause 15 thou means anything in wood lmao
@@alterworks7212 Sure. And 640kb is obviously enough for anyone. Why bother with microns when we have inches right? Accuracy, Progress, pffft. All we need is duct tape. And marketing.
Numbers don’t matter. Fit matters. Batch your cuts. Mark directly from mating parts, not indirectly from a measurement.
I am a new woodworker, and I just started to realize the importance of accuracy. Thank you.
For us simple weekend DIYers this is pure gold!!
Thank you Jonathan; I've had the exact problem with compounded errors when making simple drawers for my garage shop.
My woodworking game will benefit 10x from just this video alone!!
(BTW, love the eStore; I went ahead and picked up a marking gauge and a JKM stop block because I want to be cool like you, good Sir!)
Cheers!
Excellent video! If you don't have super tight machines, just make sure to allow for whatever walkout you may have w your blade or bit.
So much good information here! I've only recently started using a marking knife and I have found my cuts to be way more accurate. But what you shared with us here is mind-blowing for me! I don't have enough space here to tell you how thankful I am for this well-produced and informative video. Mad love for Mr. Katz-Moses!!
My sentiments exactly!
You make practical, well reasoned explanations for marking knives and the like. I’ll stop mentally mocking the idea
Just ordered the Marking knife and Gauge from your website! Can't wait to use them.
these so many good and even great woodworkers who won't do this or simply don't know. but even as a beginner learning and applying this expert knowledge sets you up for success ever time. 10/10 loved it so much
Every new woodworker should watch this video multiple times before picking up a tool and again after getting started. I learned some of these things the hard way. That, plus many of the guys in my local woodworking club say that woodworking is not that accurate. They scoff at William Ng using a feeler gauge. Good on you AND William!
I've watched probably 200 UA-cam vids on woodworking and I learned more from this than all of them combined 😳 for where I'm at anyway. Props man thank you 🙏 🙏💯
I’ve been watching woodworking videos for years and this is the best marking video out there. Great job.
You are a great teacher and a great resource of information for newbs like myself that want to make the leap to the next level of their learning curve. Thank you.
Man......you're a hell of a teacher
Thank you for teaching the next generation about this subject. I work at Caterpillar and this is one of the top subjects for people to learn. Different type of work but same principle.
Ok, you got me. I just ordered a marking knife, and a few other things from your site. Thanks my dude
I used the trick with the punch and knife to set my saddle and carry a line over the edge. The dowels in my panel glue up were bang-on centre. Awesome tips!
So true!...the digital caliper and a knife has replaced my tape and pencil... Cutting kumiko half lap joints for a shoji screen, using a box joint jig;-18 cuts over a 8ft length, 0.001 inaccuracy would screw up the whole layout. One lesson I learned was to start in the middle and cut the variation in half! Love your vids!
This is one of the best woodworking videos I have ever watched. Worth every second, thank you!
Possibly the best woodworking video I’ve ever seen! Thanks!
Thanks Jonathan!! This explains why those jewelry box lids never fitted so well! ;). It taught me lots on how to plane in awkward places (to un-square the lid so it fit in the wonky opening). But, now that I have marking gauges and knives I don’t have those problems any more. Well, not as much. Ok…. I’m not perfect. I like to prove I’m human!! I think I have the same marking gauge addiction you have. I ordered one from your new tools store. Couldn’t help myself! Your products are always so nice. Fine tools at a good price. More like exceptional tools at a good price. The exceptional part is the quality to cost ratio. The quality of your products always exceeds the cost expectation.
Once again great information for someone starting out. Thanks Jonathan. So marking knife.. check. Marking guage..check. Callipers.. check. Square..check. 😁
I’ve always known that accuracy matters - a lot. Now I know precisely why. Thanks for the excellent info, Jonathon!
As good as his tips are, I for one am not sure about putting your finger on the top of table saw blade, or on the spindle of the router.Always found it best to run or router a piece of scrap to check for error/ accuracy of setup.
Stay safe guys
I love Taylor Toolworks 👍 My blem 12" combo and 6" double square are in constant use. You are the second person who has referenced using the same measuring device when working. When I did that with my last project, the accuracy was incredible. Most dead on project I have ever created.
Love my center punch as well. I always use it when drilling holes. Got tired of my drill bit wandering, especially in softer wood.
You are one of the first creators I look at when starting a project and need pointers. You are also the person who helped me see how everything is not "perfect". I had an incredibly hard time with that when I first started and regularly wanted to scrap a project. When you stated that the mistake didn't matter, learning how to fix it did, it changed my outlook and helped me become much less frustrated.
Thanks for the great info.
I keep ordering tools from his store! I love this guy!
The one guy on UA-cam making unique WW videos.
Best instruction on accuracy I've seen using these tools. Thank you. I go to auctions all the time and over 6 months ago I bought a box full of wood working tools and most of these you covered are in that box and many are new. Now it is time to get them out and use them. Thanks again.
Very well done Jonathan as usual. Your support staff does an awesome job also. I tried to download your free router table plans, had a problem with it, emailed support and had a reply with a new plan link THE SAME DAY! Thank you. Congrats on the new tool venture, I look forward to watching it grow. :)
On the rare occasion I use a hand saw I found about 20 years ago that, after knife marking my line, to chisel a bevel out the whole way down like you started. It really helps the cut start out good for me as I have roughly 0 points invested in handsawing.
EDIT: I have an obsession for marking knives like you do for gauges. To the point where the reason I learned how to forge weld in blacksmithing was to make a "Damascus" pattern welded marking knife. I know have made 8 of them lol.
Would be nice with a video showing all the typical and creative ways of finding and marking centers on different objects, distributed marks, symmetrical marks, transferring marks from one piece to another, etc.
I learned so much about accurate measurements in this video as a beginner woodworker! Thank you so much Jonathan!
One of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched
Purchased your marking knife after watching this video. No idea why I hadn't gotten one before now.
This is amazing information 👏 I'm using every single tip that you shared 🎉
Great illustration Johnathan. Been there done that!!!! Thanks for the awesome content!
Thanks for this video. This is one of the areas Ive had some unanswered questions about.
Awesome info!
Thanks Mr Outlaw!
It’s great to see the UA-cam woodworking channels supporting each other. I haven’t seen that anywhere else on this platform.
Chasing square yes. I always say take the time even if it seams an eternity to to start square or plum or both depending. My saying is “A mistake will haunt you all the way through a project” . All great tips. .
Great video! My college professors would love this. This reminded me of every physics, engineering, chemistry and math lecture about accuracy and precision. I especially appreciated the part about using the same take measure. I would go further than that. You need to do inter-comparisons of your measuring devices and only mix use those that match up and toss out, donate, whatever... Everything that isn't square.
Very good video. As a cabinet maker, my accuracy is important.
These are undoubtedly some amazing tips, however i feel like this is addressed to professionals rather weekend woodworkers. Personally, i have contractor level tools and i do my best to make them precise and square them up, but realistically no matter how much time i will spend on precise marking i’m pretty sure most of my cuts will be ~0.5-1mm off due to the imperfections of the tools themselves. If i ever think about making money from woodworking, i will definitely take the advice from this material.
This was one of the best videos I've seen on this sort of topic! I am ALWAYS off by a little bit and just "live with it". I am ordering the knife and bevel roller knife. Never even knew these things existed.
I love how much I learn from a short amount of time with your videos. Awesome job - I just bought one of your stop blocks and shipped to Canada - was much faster than I expected! Keep up the great work/videos. Glad I can support someone who has thought me so much already.
Dude you are one of my absolute favorites. You teach great tips and tricks that take us to the next level.
Well your explanation of the thickness of the hook and why the end of the tape measure moves makes total sense. I was measuring for some drawers the other day and my measurement was off by that much because of the way I used the tape measure. Now it makes total sense
I think I’ve been doing it wrong… that movement has always made me nervous, so I always push the tape “in” so that it’s next to the hook… maybe I shouldn’t be?
@@ryanhuff585 correct. Outside measurements use the pull function and inside uses the push function
Very useful information! Also you are the first UA-camr ever to correctly point to the links in the upper right corner of the screen :-)
Great instructions. Simple and to the point. Darlington, South Carolina
I have never commented on a UA-cam video, but I have to say this was a really helpful, informative video. I have recently been getting into the hobby of woodworking, and really feeling confident with the basics is something I really want to make sure I get right.
Also, the template actually says, "Is anybody reading this?" Love it!!! That reminds me of the time I put that in an essay in college and still got the A from the professor!
I'm new to woodworking and this information is golden. Thank you very much.
I love my Imperial/Metric tape measures. I use the.metric to measure diagonal square. Much easier and more accurate
than the Imperial 16ths...
Videos like this are always interesting to me, because of the contrast between the almost machinist-like approach to woodworking on one end of the scale, compared to the build-to-fit no-numbers methods of old style hand tool woodworking on the other.
I personally lean towards the latter end of the scale, just because all the stuff I do is one-off and it has a nice low-tech appeal to it, but I can definitely appreciate both approaches.
Great camera work.
Its nice to be able to see the accuracy when you're demonstrating it.
Superb production value. Very helpful information. So much talent. Thank you for sharing.
Great tips! Agree 1000% on spending up front for good tools vs buying cheap tools. Makes a difference
Always great! Glad to see some fresh videos. You were missed
Hi Jonathan thank you so much for everything you do, I'm watching from the uk and very new to woodworking and what you do is so Important to people like myself and really appreciate and enjoy watching you show just how things are done you are a real artist thank you. Geoff
I'm in Europe too. Would you share with me what is your table saw?
Absolutely appreciate your videos! I'm certain that these videos will linger into the decades for future woodworker's reference if allowed to. Will hit up your shop one of these days whenever my next investment will be. Cheers!
AWESOME INFO JONATHAN! I'm so pumped to be able to follow the KMTools journey!
Thank you Jonathan ! I was looking for something to make me more precise when marking / working - you made my day ! :)
In my professional engineering mode I use digital calipers. In my wood shop I MUCH prefer dial calipers. If you use them to set a distance (instead of measuring) you will find it vastly easier to set, say, 1.5625" with a dial. You'll dither with digitals and probably never really get it dead on. They never run out of juice, are much easier to read in low light & cost less. Yes, baseline measurements (i.e., 2 distances) require a little arithmetic but I can add and subtract with the best of them and it's not required often. It's also possible to get better than 0.0005" measurements if you can guess how far between the marks the arrow points. I use a 12" Mitutoyo dial caliper in my wood shop and wouldn't trade it for any electronic version.
Wilhelm Taylor...I'm with you; I use my Browne & Sharpe 6" dial calipers all the time. When I need to plane several boards to the same thickness, I always use my calipers to maintain very accurate thicknesses among the boards. I also use the caliper to find depths for various projects. I was a machinist until I retired, so my training in precision naturally followed me when I started woodworking.
Outstanding video. Your explanations were clear and easy to understand. Thanks for sharing this one with us.
Good video!!! Accurate measurements can help you transfer the exact measurement - length and Angeles to the piece that you work on whil you have to make a new part to make it tight fit with out measuring and guessing.
Another winner Jonathan. Jam packed with great info. Thank you. 👍🏻
Excellent information.......thanks for all the tips Jonathan and congratulations on your "new" business!!! Best wishes to you!
Great info for accurate measurements and cuts! Thank you sir
Cool tips, thanks!!! Also helps when you don't see so well anymore.
Fantastic, Jonathan! Thanks a lot for all the tips! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great. I mean I knew that the wrong imprecise cuts on the long run could mess up perpendicularity and alignment in general. But damn. 0.3° shown such error, wow. Impressive. Keep it up man. Waiting for my second apron. Got one before for my dad.
Thanks for this man. You can make beautiful pieces with quick and dirty measurements, and if you know what you're doing you can get it up to 95% perfect. But the only way to get into 99-100% territory is to go the extra step and be very careful and thoughtful about what you're doing and how it will affect things 5 steps down the line. Understanding cumulative effects really takes your work to a whole new level - it is very easy to not care about 1% off the mark - do that twenty times and you've got a big problem. Excellence lies in accounting for that.
most of the time you can make small corrections as you go, hell half my projects i dont even know how i am going to do it, just what i want to make and start cutting
Love the tip about getting the tooth of the tablesaw blade in the scribeline. I have always used a pencil line so I can see the mark. I will be trying your method from now on.
Thank you for that, some great informative content for us beginners 👍🏻
"A good craftsman knows to avoid errors, a master knows how to use them" from one of my prof... Can be applied in many areas!
As a musician, this is an amazing line as well.
Great stuff dude. Clear and to the point. Been using these tips for years.
Great video. Such clear explanations coupled with good demonstrations and good camera close ups
Well done Jonathan. Absolutely accuracy is paramount. Size matters! Lol
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Thanks for suggesting the Blem PEC combination squares on Tay Tools. I ordered the 300mm Metric, $40 bucks, got it today, checked for square, and WOW, spot on!
I have been looking for a decent combo with all sides metric for a while. One of the hang ups I had was not knowing if I wanted to the hardened steel or cast iron body. The Blems on Tay Tools are the cast iron body, so I get to try it out for a very very decent price. All of my cheapo combo squares are now out of square after lots of wear, I hope the cast iron body holds up better.
So thanks again, that suggestion really helps me.
This is really well done. Only one I would have added is a dial gauge on a mag base. Even a cheap one is likely the most accurate device in a wood shop. To really talk about accuracy talk to a machinist. For example, a level that is within 0.001" per 12" is shop grade.
Fantastic overview and explanations of accuracy fundamentals. Thanks for supporting the woodworking community JKM!
Late comment but I mark a lot of stuff with pencil still but I also will mark a tiny X on the waste side of the cut so I know which side of the pencil line I'm referencing to. It doesn't completely fix the accuracy issue but it sure does help.
Extremely valuable tips. Thank you
@1:36, Yes Jonathan, I'm reading it. I always read the legend. 😂 And @11:25, locking the marking gauge into the rule is a great tip. I'm going to make my first hand cut dovetails using your jig for my niece's wedding present. Well, I'm making a jewelry box not just a dovetail. LOL. So this is quite timely!
2nd!
All very helpful tips as accuracy is important and what I always have a hard time with! Thank you!!
Check out the Jessem marking gauge with micro-adjust. It beats the crap out of all other marking gauges.
My lay-flat layout tape helped me mark panels a lot more accurately because (1) the tab can be squarely hooked on the wood edge with full contact (since you never tip the tape), (2) the tab helps tape accuracy because it’s fixed for outside measuring, (3) the tape lines are easier to “extend” onto the wood with a pencil (or knife) since the tape edge is always in contact with your stock (not curled up a 1/16”), and (4) the tape is always in great shape because it has zero ability to hold itself up when extended so it doesn’t get beaten up being used for everyday (far rougher) tasks.
Nice video, definitely think I'll pick up some of those tools 👍🏽
Thanks so much for this lesson! I've learned a lot. Next purchase will be the marking knife. All of your videos have been super helpful!
Great info on accuracy!!! I hope I can retain these tips when I start my next project.
super satisfying to watch!!!
I appreciate the "Is anyone reading this" in your title block.
Woooooo!! Beautiful brother, love it. Thanks for sharing🙌✌🤘
Great presentation as always Jonathan. One point worth mentioning is that you're assuming there is no run-out with your Drill press quill or no run-out with your table saw shaft.👍❤
Well, that's something you should address on day 1 of buying a new/used tool. I have a great "Tune Up Tuesday" video series about making your power tools perform perfectly.
Great information! Time to buy everything!
Great video. Thanks. Would like your advice on accurately marking the centre of a hole (of something like a hinge or fitting where reference point/edge is not the hole) ?
Look up "Vick's drill bit" cheers
Excellent! Highly informative.
Totally reading all the randomness!