When I was young, I insisted that Pixar wasn’t the same as Disney, but nowadays it literally is nothing but Disney. It practically lost all of its unique identity.
@@KirbyStarAnimation Man, this comment section is absurd Everyone shits on Gillman; of course they do; it's a terrible film. No one says it woke… because it's not. It's just a terrible film. Either you all have forgotten what woke means and just equate "bad" to it, or you're so tunnel visioned on any trace of woke-ness that you ignore the more significant things that make something bad… at which point you become worse then the people you criticize.
@@abubakrakram6208 That wasn’t my point of the question. I don’t care if it’s woke since that doesn’t make something bad. People call owl house woke but I prefer it than gravity falls. My point was how is ruby gillman not woke but lightyear is.
- Disney fired John Lasseter who who went on to create Pixar. - Disney forced out Chris Sanders (after directing Lilo and Stitch) who went to DreamWorks to direct How To Train Your Dragon. - Don Bluth became so frustrated with Disney's management that he left to go on to direct Secret of NIMH. I see a trend...
@@129jasper1 Is that really the case? Look at how absurd the marketing for Elemental was. They made it as though the film was nothing but eye candy for 3 year olds. Regardless of what you think of the story, they diluted it down to nothing in those trailers.
@@abubakrakram6208 Do you know of a better way to market Elemental without giving away the best parts of the story? I swear, there is just no pleasing you people when it comes to marketing potentially good films! You seem upset at the marketing for Elemental for the opposite reason that you were upset with Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken.
Soul is the only thing they’ve made in recent memory that actually felt like Pixar. It is one hell of an incredible story and it has a pretty damn unique concept. Its a damn shame disney threw it on the streaming service instead of giving it what it absolutely deserved.
@@donaldduck73 Yeah. At least it has an interesting concept (living elements), which is a staple of most pixar films. Usually they create their worlds based on some sort of random arbitrary idea for the characters/story (what if your brain was a place, what if toys were secretly alive, what if the monster in the closet was just doing its job, what if a rat was somehow gifted with incredible culinary talent, what if superheroes existed but were illegal, etc.) A lot of their recent films like Luca, Lightyear, Turning Red, etc. have lacked this sort of creative idea driving the world and story. But soul and elemental both have it and, therefore, they both feel like actual pixar: an amazing heartfelt story told through a fictional world that only pixar could think of.
I’ll give you three reasons for the decline: 1. It’s the writing! These new stories are bad. The guy himself said it. It was the visuals that made their movies great, it was the story they told. That was the beating heart of it all. These rehashes and obligatory sequels are missing this heart and fail because of it. 2. Disney. Their affiliation with Disney is hurting them. People are sick of Disney. Their movies have been God awful, with very few exceptions. 3. Relevance. Disney seems to be rolling them in more and more into themselves.
About the writing, its worse than you though. Unlike Disney, the unique style of Pixar came from unorthodox storyline and this is what make their movie good. Left that path and they ruined immediately.
I have not seen Lightyear yet, but I liked the animated Star Command series and while I I can not begin to understand why the writers of Lightyear would not use that to help them tell an interesting story...I am still okay with Lightyear's writers and directors trying do something different by creating an original group of characters of their own, when adapting the Star Command characters would have been the safer or easier way out for them.
They didnt even need to adapt the series, theres a star command animated movie that i loved as a kid, just cgi it and obviously make it longer and boom.
@abubakrakram6208 I disagree. It's intentionally bad and further erodes the soul of humanity by making the consuming of soulless trash normal behavior.
As Midas was to gold, so is Disney to lead. Never has there been such a force of depreciation of assets. This should be taught in business classes everywhere.
They are doing this on purpose to further a greater goal, which is to help destabilize first world nations, brainwash the youngest generation, all in order to further plans for the new world order, under a single gov. They want free thinking to stop.
Lightyear didn't fail because of "woke" content that amounts to like 2 seconds of the movie. Cutting out those 2 seconds doesn't suddenly make Lightyear a good movie. Lightyear failed because of shitty fucking writing that completely misunderstands the character. How are you gonna have a Lightyear movie... with no freaking aliens???
@@n646n it doesn't feel like that at all. if paying as little attention to a gay character's sexuality is bad, how do you write one in the first place? would the character be fine or better if they were straight?
I think another factor is that Disney straight up stole Pixar's animation style, thus watering down the brand. I had assumed films like Frozen, Moana and Encanto were made by Pixar. Nope. Disney just used their style.
I really miss 2d animation. Everything looks exactly the same now. Everyone has smooth glowing skin. I cant even tell what movie characters are from if I had a group of them in front of me. 2d had so much charm to it. I can't even imagine them making the villain in Mulan in that style. He'd look so goofy. I hope they bring it back someday.
@@CallMeMeepMeIfYouWannaReachMe Are you looking for meritocracy, good storytelling and memorable characters, or do you merely want 2D animation? Be honest. The downfall of both Disney and Pixar had to do with lacking those qualities that made them popular in the first place. I have no problem at distinguishing things. You and @Ready-ForTheEnd are both coming off as shallow.
@@ratedr7845I believe Toy Story was the first full length feature film that was computer animated. There were other shorts and things before Toy Story but I could’ve sworn I heard it was the first computer animated movie
Yesterday, I saw the scene from the Incredibles that had Mr. Incredible go into Syndrome's computer and see all of the supers that had been terminated. I swear I always have the chills because of how beautiful yet eerie that sequence was, one of my favorite moments in animated movies history. It saddens me that Pixar has turned out to be like this, no uniqueness that was characteristic for them. There have been moments where I've actually thought Pixar was better than Disney, but I guess it won't be like that anymore.
What’s wrong with the recent movies besides lightyear. Luca was cute and had a great friendship. Turning red was a girl movie but also tackled something that isn’t talked about enough. Elemental was really nice. Soul had a great message that people only noticed in the last wish for some reason. Toy Story 5 is happening and people are angry but turn the other cheek to Shrek 5 and kung fu panda 4. I think they’re about equal but ruby Gillman didn’t have a box office comeback like Elemental.
@@KirbyStarAnimationAh yes, Luca. That movie everybody has already forgotten for Coco. Turning Red, teaching little girls that selling their bodies so that rich politicians and celebrities can have better access to them. Great message. Soul what? Elemental didn't have a box office comeback when Across the Spiderverse still outran it by a mile. Toy Story has been milked to death. It's a hail Mary pass at best in recouping their losses.
@@KirbyStarAnimation I’m pretty opposed to most of Dreamworks’ planned sequels too. Toy Story is only especially egregious because both 3 and 4 had definitive conclusions for the whole franchise.
PIXAR was a huge part of my childhood. Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, Cars, Rattotulle, Up. It's such a shame to see such a wholesome, warm, artistic, and story telling industry that impacted our childhood's lives start to crumble. I don't recognise PIXAR these day's. It's a shell of what it once was. A company which released childhood classics is now resorted to recycled guff, woke cultural identity politics, and a lack of good ideas. It breaks my heart seeing PIXAR reduced to this. So sad 😢
Its a shock, my last Pixar film that I watched before COVID was Coco and I have to concentrated to Master Thesis. After that got jobs in 2021, just in time COVID erupted. Last Pixar film feel interested is Turning Red since it gave me nostagia about 2000s. Cannot tolerate Lightyear and Elementals and now cannot even recognize Pixar with trailer of Inside Out 2, who on Earth make anxiety the sole emotion? Its a combination of emotions.
Thank you for giving John his flowers, I truly think that scandal was a way to get him out of power so they could push these boring agenda movies that he was against. Current Disney destroys everything they touch! Thanks to Iger, DreamsWorks, Sony and even Illumination has filled the hole that used to be dominated by Disney/Pixar.
John Lasseter and Hayao Miyazaki are two of my most loved animators. What they have in common is innovation and storytelling but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. Not to under play Isao Takahata's contributions to Ghibli he is a juggernaut (Princess Kaguya and Grave of the Fireflies are master classes in animation and storytelling). We now have both studios unable to capture the magic they once had. The one saving grace is that Studio Ghibli has not been gobbled up by a western company and will unlikely be. We are also on the cusp of another formula shakeup thanks to the decline of western cinema (thanks largely to Disney failing to keep people engaged).
@@plootyluvsturtle9843there’s absolutely no way studio ghibli will ever be sold off to Disney. It’s a Japanese Studio and Hayao Miyazaki will never allow it
Ghibli is the same IMO. It started falling off largely after Spirited Away which the 80s to early 2000s were their golden years. Howls and Ponyo were alright but not amazing like their past productions. Tales from Earthsea and many other ghibli films are as bad as some of the worst new Pixar movies, and Miyazaki's release this year wasn't that great either. Unfortunately I think most directors are only capable for a couple decades in their prime and staff that supported them start to fall off and do something else. Need a whole team to make a great production.
I think Ghibli is actually also in decline. Their more recent films like Aya to Majo doesn't sits well with fans. Even some of the older ones, like Gedo Senki is considered a bad film. Also, from what I've gathered, the newest film, Kimitachi wa Dou Ikiruka, is a confusing mess according to some Japanese. It's even featured in Hokkylo Ren, a UA-cam channel that talks about bad films.
@@RXI63 Disney had a strike in 1941 and the national labor relations board asked him to sign the contract, after world war 2, he used the house of un-american activities to take his revenge and blacklist a shitload of his union employees from the entire industry. That's probably the most fucked up one, but in general he was a shit boss, and also kinda racist but back in the day that was pretty common anw
@@RXI63Despite being an animator himself, he opposed the animator’s strike of 1941. In fact, he fired almost all members of his workforce who protested.
I like how you identify the primary reason I've been saying for years on why Pixar has lacked a 'soul.' He was the heart and soul of Pixar's productions, heck even many Disney Productions he worked with them to make great. He was responsible for the Disney Ghibli Coop, he helped on films like Tangle, Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, among other Disney Productions. He was the champion that made Pixar and Disney great in the early 2000s.
I heard years ago that the story concepts for the first 10-15 films or so were all, developed in basically a single night. And that everything after that wouldn't be as successful. How true the last part turned out
@@mayanboricuathe original Pixar guys came up with the concepts for the first few Pixar movies while having a chat at the dinner table. I believe these include Toy story, ratatouille, the incredibles, finding Nemo, wall e, up and cars.
That means all these bad movies are on purpose. They obviously know HOW to make a good movie. The propaganda is deliberate. It even seems they predicted their own downturn.
15:20 this is why I like this channel, every other video essay on Pixar uncritically buys the headlines and paints Lassiter as a predator. Thank you for actually looking further into it. In reality the “accusations” were incredibly minor and at worst sounded like a guy who was overly physical. Hardly a threat to anyone. To this day people talk about him like he’s a criminal and he isn’t.
Yeah either way it never went to trial, no charges were filed far as I know. Nothing came of it and i hardly doubt he was well connected enough to buy off the charges given he lost his job and has name ran through the mud. It's the dark side of the Me2 era no one likes to talk about. False accusations that ruins peoples lives, and the accusers face no repercussions from their actions even if the victim goes to jail for years for it.
There is also an interesting thing here. If he was the "predator" they claimed he was, then how can they explain that most of talent from Pixar followed him into Skydance? Surely if he was that bad no one would ever go with him, less to start a new studio... But oh well, Disney long tradition of fucking over their animators and then them going to make their own studios its still going.
@@phyrexian_dude4645 While I feel bad for what happened, it was honestly probably a good thing. While he was still at Pixar it seemed like Disney was interfering more and more with his work again. Getting an easy out of the company was the best thing for letting him make the movies he wanted.
I feel like disney made false claims to take Pixar I mean think about, Jon had no claims like what happened but now suddenly after Disney have taken over Jon got these claims is suspicious yknow
I think DreamWorks is important to mention too. Puss in boots was also a fairly low budget movie with a box office well over 3-4 times its budget. It was an animated movie that I personally enjoyed even as an adult
Unfortunately after the allegations against John Lasseter, pixar had its ueart and soul riped out. Pixar used to be bold, creative and groundbreaking, now they rely in visuals to sell a movie without the investment in the story and angles to explore. A lot of history of this company is barely acknowledged by Disney, and thats where it became a shell of its former sekf
@@ratonagotica9447 Sure, no one is expected to make a masterpiece everytime, however, we can't forget all the good Pixar films that he directed (also Incredibles 2 was only uninspired because it was rushed, it lost a whole year's worth of production and script revision, all because of Toy Story 4 being delayed over and over again (and that movie i consider it to be the worst film Pixar has ever made (because it completely destroyed the Toy Story Series), now this isn't an excuse, we can all agree that Incredibles 2 sucks, but if they were given more time to work on it, it could have been a great sequel, one which I believe Brad Bird would be proud to have released).
@@inactivehorse9753 "we can all agree that Incredibles 2 sucks" and yet I know like ten people that love it, and it was well received by a lot of people. If you don't wanna like it that's fine, but you can't say everyone agrees it sucks, because people do like it
@GraphicJ I think progressive things aren't bad without pushing an agenda forcefully (Spiderman across the spiderverse). Which has some minor details about trans rights and stuff but it doesn't bother the movie in any way. On the other hand with disney they push the agenda directly in your face which is quite annoying. Most disney properties (marvel, pixar and more) forcefully puts certain these ideologies infront of people in such a way that it is annoying. Yeah we can have strong female heroes but if u look again at the spiderverse and a lot of anime. They have great female characters without them pushing the agenda "well girls can be strong too and masculine hahaha" And the movies just sucks. Like barbie was a kinda progressive movie but at the same time it was an enjoyable movie (ik it's not like super good but it was enjoyable unlike current Disney properties).
No, they just need to change behaviour. More interesting and different stories. Many more originals of different types of stories. Always do this at a less risky budget and make big budget sequels from the stories that the fans like.
Pixar was so wonderful when I was a kid! I love all the films up to Toy Story 3. I think it was the originality and unique storytelling that made it so magical. Now it's so corporate and has been completely hollowed out by Disney
Often the founding team is what makes a company successful. Pixar has been around so long that all its key people have moved on. Combine that with Disney execs taking over more and more of the management and it’s a surprise it lasted as long as it did.
I really liked Soul but I think that was the last one i really liked. The studio that" runs on tears" ( pixar created such moving stories thats what they were know for) has left the stage, really sad.
What about the recent movies besides lightyear hasn’t been heartwarming. Sure generational trauma has been a factor for turning red, elemental, and Luca but for the ladder two it wasn’t the main focus.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu And thus all the "Who are the REAL people of color" memes. All of this is leading for exactly the thing they "fear" to come crawling out of the woodwork.
thats weird. considering that into the spiderverse showed miles morales as an afrolatino teenager but didnt hyperfocus on that aspect of his identity in a way that distracted from the art and storytelling. diversity isnt a problem. its performative diversity hyped by liberals thats the problem. putting a gay couple in just to show a gay couple. making a mermaid black just to make her black. making the wife in a superhero family have her "girlboss" moment as her husband takes care of the kids. it wants to subvert stereotypes but all it does is shallowly portray niche experiences while becoming the focus over the actual storytelling and character development. it is definitely divisive because it makes people angry. when identity politics are involved in art making, creativity means nothing.
It hurts to see what happened to the company that gave me such fond memories with my kids going to see Nemo, Wall E etc. Disney is truely the terminal cancer in the film industry.
One thing Pixar is doing right is their shorts. On Disney plus they have a bunch of them and they’re wonderfully animated, but also grounded-well told stories.
The Pixar back then is completely different from Pixar now, mostly because of Disney corporate meddling and most to the old people the made Pixar back then left and replaced with new talent that still needs some to be on par with Pixar glory days.
@@Simbala-bq5vy I think those where before they sold pixar to disney those movies where the reason disney wanted the company they knew disney was a bad company because they say disney and pixar as if they where going to stay independent
Its absolutley insane to me that hundreds of millions of other people either cannot see whats going on with Pixar, or worse; do not care. Especially because this particular aspect* of the system is essentially aimed directly at the most vulnerable: children and teenagers.
@@lostheir7988 They are propagandizing the psychologically vulnerable children and do not care even slightly about anything else. The damage from what they are doing will not be felt for at least a decade, but when it is felt it will be horrendous.
Being “Woke” isn’t killing Disney. Relying on their previous IP and blaming people for being bigots when in reality their movies have poor writing is what’s killing Disney. Disney has actually suppressed recent works that had lgbtq+ stuff in it when they release their films internationally and the films are still doing poorly.
Original stories and ideas aren't that hard to make, people just like to put their own emotions over others. Because of peoples high narcissism has ruined characters individual personalities. Now characters and stories are just tools for woke messages, instead of coming up with original ideas. Not to mention they don't teach good morals anymore, but fake morals that leave kids and adults confused. Also adding negative emotions like guilt into their messages, instead of a happy loving messages. Characters no longer grow or develop, they are just misunderstood by the world, for looking or being a certain way. People like to see others change into a better version of themselves as hope for real people too.
Hey, I was thinking that the book "The GIver" could be perfect for a video of a warning, cuz for example, everyone lives in Sameness, no real emotions exist and Jonas (protagonist) is the only one who experiments a "real life". Also some great points could be that war was once portraited as a game, but Jonas was the only one who understood what was the "true meaning" of the game. Hope you read this and give it a chance.
@@Geoffrey_Lawrence I read it this year for school, then I just read 100 (middle to the end) pages when the intereseting part kicks in, thats truly the first time I enjoyed reading.
I second the notion. I once read the book as part of a school assignment, then later on read a graphic novel adaptation. It's themes are worth looking into.
@@ratedr7845 Sadly John Lasseter doesn't have a clean state. Brave was originally directed by Brenda Chapman, but John got rid of her for some reason???? Since Brave turned out to be disappointing, John is fully to blame.
@@ratedr7845 The Chicken from Mona was originally going to be the leads guide, but John hated the character so much that if he didn't change the character would be removed. So Disney made him brain dead. Since no likes the bird, John might be wrong again????
It's sad to see a studio I once adored become what they are today. But regardless, they still had like, what, almost 20 years of masterpieces? That's not a bad run.
@24:40 the third gentleman pictured is Dr. Edwin Catmull, the literal co-founder of Pixar who without, many would argue, the Pixar story never happens. Highly recommend his book, Creativity Inc.
I dont watch most of the movies you talk about, like MCU, DCU, etc, but I still find your videos fascinating and seeing why my decision to never watch has been right for the last 15 years.
I love seeing that there are people who share my sentiment! I got dragged to two of them: avengers and black panther. I was looking around thinking, “unless you saw these in highschool, in 15 years no one will be referring to them as classics.”
something needs to be said that this same company would make movies that would make me blubber like a baby, to actual cringe. Two emotions opposite from eachother. Truly sad, but you can not take away whats already renedered, so for that I say thank you Pixar.
This is such a tough pill to swallow, as their last film, "Elemental", is one of the best they've done in a while. But, it's hard to recognise the Pixar charm anymore with that Disney sheen. It's still there, I just think that Disney is ever-so-gradually dimming that charm.
Toy Story 4 just wasn’t good. After his departure, Lasseter’s script was retooled until we ended up with the final result. I also completely ignored Lightyear for how Tim Allen was treated. They gambled everything on Chris Evans being more of a box office draw, and reaped what they sowed
UP will always be my favourite animated movie its such a beautiful masterpiece, it's so sad to see them go from that to the absolute dumpster fire quality movies they're pushing out now (with the exception of Soul)
Disney are the borg at this point. Anyone, or anything they touch, they add their creative and technological distinctiveness to their own, and then adapt them to service Disney. However, and as is obvious by Disney's falling stock price and decreasing cultural good will, resistance is not futile.
You had me until you talked about Soul... Have you seen that movie!? It's actually my favorite pixar film and has a very mature message catered to an older audience. I've seen it many times and definitely didn't forget about it.
It's actually really sad seeing that Disney has completely taken over Pixar by sucking the life and soul from it. Pixar has become a shell of it's former selves thanks to Disney.
Disney and the pandemic really affected Pixar personal and been having a hard time recovering ever since. While they do show signs of recovery it’s going to be a long while before they return back to its former glory.
True, but people aren’t mentioning that Disney gets a much smaller cut from international box office. Terminator Genesis also did great internationally but is still considered a loss for the studio.
We have to understand that taking a risk of millions of dollars is not a joke it's easy to say someone lost their creativity but taking that risk for the producer is a heart attack for him. What if creativity fails the project and people hate it?
Then don't it, if something can be categorized as a creative endeavor there's a big risk. We would call it win big or lost big, high risk business. If you like to be the equivalent of pussy in business don't invest in high risk ventures dumbass. The price of revolutionizing tech has always been a high risk high gain investment. You people need to stop always putting all your eggs in the same basket.
I think Pixar’s problem lately as with most of Hollywood has been the injection of ideology and politics. People want a good story to escape from the monotony of daily life; something Pixar was profoundly good at doing. The injection of anything divisive will always alienate a portion of an audience. It also seems to constrain any creativity as you have to craft story and characters around that message/ideology. This holds with not only “woke” movies but religious movies as well. Both have their place with respective ideologies in art; just not when a film/art is supposed to appeal to the masses. The only studio that seems to be killing it is illumination. I would love to see Pixar’s return to formula but I’m not holding my breath.
I can agree, but at the same time I loved one of their recent films because it didn’t bother appealing to a wide audience. I appreciated, for the first time, just what people meant when they say something’s “not for you.” The film felt generic to most people (it featured a forbidden romance, and most people felt that was too cliche), but it hit home for me and articulated what I felt beautifully on the screen.
Most movies are political. You just don't notice or you support the politics and then don't care. Wall-E had a strong political message. It's funny for people to wall Star wars woke. But it's always been that way. The rebels (the good guys) were the communist viet cong and the fascist empire was a mix of the US and UK. WTF Do you mean illumination. None of their movies are Pixar good.
To think Disney created Dreamworks accidentally, but just because they made a good Puss n' Boots movie, dosen't mean they will always have hits, like Ruby Gillman.
It isn’t just in the realm of movies, in all entertainment, in video games, to health care, medicine and career fields spanning numerous different professions the relentless pursuit of profit over all else is systematically destroying the best aspects of human ingenuity and creativity. The endless greed of a tiny percentage of executives and ceos has and will continue to rob the world of true innovation and creativity. I hope this death spiral of greed can stop but it is as likely as disney prioritizing creative heart over profit.
When i first heard there was "controversy" with lasseter i smelled something fishy. When i heard he was pushed out over hugs i knew pixar was done. He wanted to keep making good stories. They wanted to push the message.
OP of this comment just wants to sleep in on some problems "for being unimportant" , and wants us to "go back to bed" on it like all the "antiwoke" losers... I have this knowledge even though I'm a Republican, so... Guess why I never vote, but also I might this year. Asa Hutchinson FTW
I was always impressed with Pixar's creativity. There was a behind the scenes depicting the original beginning scene for the Incredibles and it was incredibly lame and cliche, a little too "on the nose", and yet what they did for the final movie was lightyears (!) better. I feel like all the Disney stuff being put out these days is going with that first draft instead of working on it a little more.
I really loved Toy Story I. In fact, I've had that animated movie on repeat back during the VHS era. Sad to see that the company that once made these gems are going down because of woke agendas and stuff.
@@plootyluvsturtle9843 There's just no way he is making all these videos manually. Ironically he is disney-fying his content lmao. Raking in cash peddling conspiracy theories and fear-porn, all he has to do is pay a measly sum to a video editor
@@3urobobit's because these dipshit conservatives eat this content up, they can't think for themselves so they're really easy to exploit, just make them think they're smart/rebellious for thinking like a neanderthal and they'll consume anything you put out.
Pixar also worked on the localization for all of Studio Ghilibi's animated films with John Lesseter's close friendship with Hayo Miyazaki and getting the best VA talent to do the recordings for the English translations.
13:54 yeah one thing Pixar does great is that the non living cartoons feel just as real as flesh and blood actors. That can't be easy to do, definitely not by Disney. Good job original pixar
@@hulahula6182 What’s wrong with soul, turning red, elemental, Luca, and onward. I agree with lightyear being just okay but just because it had a okay movie doesn’t mean it’s fallen from grace. What about the time when cars 2 came out then the next few movies were considered stinkers in Pixar’s lineup but people weren’t freaking out. Now it’s like oh it’s a Disney product so it must be bad.
@@KirbyStarAnimation you don't get it, pixar isn't "just okay", pixar is supposed to be phenomenal. People didn't freak out after cars 2 because for every flop, pixar used to make 3 masterpieces afterwards. Personally, I only deem pixar on a decline after they flopped movies that were meant to be slam dunks. Such as Incredibles 2, and finding dory. Last chance I gave them was soul, and soul was so forgettable that I just lost interest in future pixar movies
@@hulahula6182 I never said Pixar is just okay but just because they don’t make a phenomenal movie each time doesn’t mean they lost their talent. 3 of the least popular Pixar films good dinosaur, cars 2, and brave with good dinosaur being the worst performing and cars 2 being the most hated all came out very close to each other. Do I hate those films no. Pixar’s recent lineup has been pretty good to great excluding lightyear. They haven’t put less heart nor have not changed things up with elementals animation or turning red being more targeted towards girls. Look my favorite Pixar movie is ratatouille by a mile. Does that mean I should hate every movie after for not being as good no. Good dinosaur the worst performing movie is my second favorite Pixar film for piete sake. Just because they have a dud every once and a while doesn’t mean they’re losing their touch. And another thing. Do you think the last wish is great animation with a amazing message. Well soul had its message 2 years before that. I love the last wish but still. Also in my opinion Pixar has been more focused on emotion than ever since they haven’t been having villains for a while and instead focus on the characters. The movie with the least emotion recently lightyear was also the one with a villain. Pixar gives people what they want but just because lightyear had a female secondary protagonist people were saying it was woke. The thing that frustrates me is how people are acting like these companies have gone bad just because they’ve been doing the thing they’ve always done for their movies and then when they change the formula because people say it’s gotten stale people start to complain they’re no longer the same. I’m not happy with Toy Story 5 but it’s not like Pixar worst than every other company with this since companies that people say are now leagues better like dreamworks are doing Shrek 5 and kung fu panda 4. I don’t hate illumination or dreamworks with some of their movies being in my top ten favorite movies of all time over even some of my favorite Pixar films but that doesn’t mean they’re better.
I thought it was just me getting old but my Twenty-something kids starting their own families have no desire to watch PIXAR films. My son was all about the BuzzLightYear movie before it came out. When he saw it, he called it “a woke nightmare”. My daughter was bored silly with that Red “panda?” movie (don’t remember what it was about). I raised these kids on PIXAR VHS films. Who is the target audience for PIXAR?
Yeah, whenever companies or corporation's put greed ahead of the quality product for the customer, it's doomed to go bankrupt. And new younger companies rise up to fill the void.
Havent watched the video yet, just wanted to comment and say give kudos to moon! The videos are pumping out so consistently these days and are always informative and entertaining. Good job yall keep it up!
@@ratedr7845you're right, but cars 2 literally throws logic to a wood chipper with the spy cars literally thinking that mater is an undercover car like what kind of idiot would think that???
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I'm only here for entertainment. It shouldn't be used as educational without self fact checking. Like most things on YT.
You didn't even pronounce John's last name correctly. Absolute buffoon.
i think pixAR IS DEAD CAUSE THEY LOST ALL THE TOP animators
When I was young, I insisted that Pixar wasn’t the same as Disney, but nowadays it literally is nothing but Disney. It practically lost all of its unique identity.
That's because it was swallowed up by Disney.
Are you happy Shrek 5 is happening and is ruby Gillman woke?
@@KirbyStarAnimation Man, this comment section is absurd Everyone shits on Gillman; of course they do; it's a terrible film. No one says it woke… because it's not. It's just a terrible film. Either you all have forgotten what woke means and just equate "bad" to it, or you're so tunnel visioned on any trace of woke-ness that you ignore the more significant things that make something bad… at which point you become worse then the people you criticize.
@@abubakrakram6208 That wasn’t my point of the question. I don’t care if it’s woke since that doesn’t make something bad. People call owl house woke but I prefer it than gravity falls. My point was how is ruby gillman not woke but lightyear is.
Same here!
- Disney fired John Lasseter who who went on to create Pixar.
- Disney forced out Chris Sanders (after directing Lilo and Stitch) who went to DreamWorks to direct How To Train Your Dragon.
- Don Bluth became so frustrated with Disney's management that he left to go on to direct Secret of NIMH.
I see a trend...
Jeffrey Katzenburg was ousted and created dream works
Disney is toxic
In conclusion the problem is managment. I understand that is a business but if you want to profit in a cold way. Well things won't work.
Disney is so undoubtely evil, it's mere presence provokes the creation of good to balance it out.
Katzenberg was more famous
I’m always shocked at how tone deaf and out-of-touch some company’s marketing teams are.
Are you, really?
They have an ill agenda in my opinion. They don't accidentally do the things they do.
@@129jasper1 Is that really the case? Look at how absurd the marketing for Elemental was. They made it as though the film was nothing but eye candy for 3 year olds. Regardless of what you think of the story, they diluted it down to nothing in those trailers.
I haven't seen the marketing or the movie, but it sounds like you might be making my case for me.@@abubakrakram6208
@@abubakrakram6208 Do you know of a better way to market Elemental without giving away the best parts of the story? I swear, there is just no pleasing you people when it comes to marketing potentially good films! You seem upset at the marketing for Elemental for the opposite reason that you were upset with Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken.
Soul is the only thing they’ve made in recent memory that actually felt like Pixar. It is one hell of an incredible story and it has a pretty damn unique concept. Its a damn shame disney threw it on the streaming service instead of giving it what it absolutely deserved.
Elemental is really good and I highly recommend but it feels more like a Disney film like enchato then pixer
@@donaldduck73 Yeah. At least it has an interesting concept (living elements), which is a staple of most pixar films. Usually they create their worlds based on some sort of random arbitrary idea for the characters/story (what if your brain was a place, what if toys were secretly alive, what if the monster in the closet was just doing its job, what if a rat was somehow gifted with incredible culinary talent, what if superheroes existed but were illegal, etc.) A lot of their recent films like Luca, Lightyear, Turning Red, etc. have lacked this sort of creative idea driving the world and story. But soul and elemental both have it and, therefore, they both feel like actual pixar: an amazing heartfelt story told through a fictional world that only pixar could think of.
inside out was good though
@@hannahdavies2926 Inside out is almost a decade old. It doesnt count as a “recent” pixar movie
@orange_turtle3412 Luca and turning red was definitely creative and had those what if questions
I’ll give you three reasons for the decline:
1. It’s the writing! These new stories are bad. The guy himself said it. It was the visuals that made their movies great, it was the story they told. That was the beating heart of it all. These rehashes and obligatory sequels are missing this heart and fail because of it.
2. Disney. Their affiliation with Disney is hurting them. People are sick of Disney. Their movies have been God awful, with very few exceptions.
3. Relevance. Disney seems to be rolling them in more and more into themselves.
About the writing, its worse than you though. Unlike Disney, the unique style of Pixar came from unorthodox storyline and this is what make their movie good. Left that path and they ruined immediately.
Pixar’s Lightyear should have been an easy lay up. The production crew should’ve just used the early 2000s animated series as creative inspiration.
seriously. real easy. imagine being able to f that up.
I have not seen Lightyear yet, but I liked the animated Star Command series and while I I can not begin to understand why the writers of Lightyear would not use that to help them tell an interesting story...I am still okay with Lightyear's writers and directors trying do something different by creating an original group of characters of their own, when adapting the Star Command characters would have been the safer or easier way out for them.
They didnt even need to adapt the series, theres a star command animated movie that i loved as a kid, just cgi it and obviously make it longer and boom.
Except they wanted to virtue signal a message that a lot of people do not support, like that kiss…
it makes me wonder, surely they expected this so why did they decide it was a good idea? @@Labyrinth6000
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"
Being poor at writing doesn't make one evil. I doubt you care about that; got to get those likes, right? I just thought I'd mention it anyway.
@@abubakrakram6208 go woke go broke
@abubakrakram6208 I disagree. It's intentionally bad and further erodes the soul of humanity by making the consuming of soulless trash normal behavior.
@@abubakrakram6208silence your obese mouth
@@abubakrakram6208your acting like he took those likes away from your plate while at dinner
As Midas was to gold, so is Disney to lead. Never has there been such a force of depreciation of assets. This should be taught in business classes everywhere.
this is my favorite comment of the week
The magic went from Disney decades ago.
They are doing this on purpose to further a greater goal, which is to help destabilize first world nations, brainwash the youngest generation, all in order to further plans for the new world order, under a single gov. They want free thinking to stop.
Pixar's golden era was still under disney....
Inertia.......@@Robin-be1zm
Lightyear didn't fail because of "woke" content that amounts to like 2 seconds of the movie. Cutting out those 2 seconds doesn't suddenly make Lightyear a good movie. Lightyear failed because of shitty fucking writing that completely misunderstands the character. How are you gonna have a Lightyear movie... with no freaking aliens???
it was just boring
ikr I'm sick of the fact that anytime LGBTQ+ representation shows up for a few seconds it's automatically "woke" nowadays
A lot of poorly written movies from popular IPs are successful.
Shoehorning in wokeness is an example of bad writing though. If it only amounts to 2 seconds of the movie it's obviously just there to be there.
@@n646n
it doesn't feel like that at all. if paying as little attention to a gay character's sexuality is bad, how do you write one in the first place? would the character be fine or better if they were straight?
I think another factor is that Disney straight up stole Pixar's animation style, thus watering down the brand.
I had assumed films like Frozen, Moana and Encanto were made by Pixar. Nope. Disney just used their style.
Disney had absorbed Pixar's style
I really miss 2d animation. Everything looks exactly the same now. Everyone has smooth glowing skin. I cant even tell what movie characters are from if I had a group of them in front of me. 2d had so much charm to it. I can't even imagine them making the villain in Mulan in that style. He'd look so goofy. I hope they bring it back someday.
@@CallMeMeepMeIfYouWannaReachMe
Everyone also has a baby face no matter how old they are. They look like clay dolls.
@@CallMeMeepMeIfYouWannaReachMe Are you looking for meritocracy, good storytelling and memorable characters, or do you merely want 2D animation? Be honest. The downfall of both Disney and Pixar had to do with lacking those qualities that made them popular in the first place.
I have no problem at distinguishing things. You and @Ready-ForTheEnd are both coming off as shallow.
Pixar used to touch our hearts, now they touch us inappropriately.
🤣 wtf..
💀
*Snort*
@SamBANKmanHeeb Dude that is not cool! You’re gonna get us in a heeb of trouble again.
@@WMFilms25 😆😆🤣🤣
Being born in the in early 90s I never realized Toy Story was that revolutionary. It was simply all I had ever known.
It completely changed the game. The biggest thing before that was Aladdin.
Yes, it's like the Dragon Ball of 3d animation, wasn't the first, but it jumpstarted the movement
Being born in 1990, trust me, Toy Stkry was something never seen before. Ot changed animation forever.
@@ratedr7845I believe Toy Story was the first full length feature film that was computer animated. There were other shorts and things before Toy Story but I could’ve sworn I heard it was the first computer animated movie
@@michaelvigil3436 I looked it up, yes it is
Yesterday, I saw the scene from the Incredibles that had Mr. Incredible go into Syndrome's computer and see all of the supers that had been terminated. I swear I always have the chills because of how beautiful yet eerie that sequence was, one of my favorite moments in animated movies history.
It saddens me that Pixar has turned out to be like this, no uniqueness that was characteristic for them. There have been moments where I've actually thought Pixar was better than Disney, but I guess it won't be like that anymore.
To be fair, it still is better than Disney, not that it really means much, considering that it's Disney
What’s wrong with the recent movies besides lightyear.
Luca was cute and had a great friendship.
Turning red was a girl movie but also tackled something that isn’t talked about enough.
Elemental was really nice.
Soul had a great message that people only noticed in the last wish for some reason.
Toy Story 5 is happening and people are angry but turn the other cheek to Shrek 5 and kung fu panda 4.
I think they’re about equal but ruby Gillman didn’t have a box office comeback like Elemental.
@@KirbyStarAnimationAh yes, Luca. That movie everybody has already forgotten for Coco.
Turning Red, teaching little girls that selling their bodies so that rich politicians and celebrities can have better access to them. Great message.
Soul what?
Elemental didn't have a box office comeback when Across the Spiderverse still outran it by a mile.
Toy Story has been milked to death. It's a hail Mary pass at best in recouping their losses.
@@KirbyStarAnimation I’m pretty opposed to most of Dreamworks’ planned sequels too. Toy Story is only especially egregious because both 3 and 4 had definitive conclusions for the whole franchise.
I still remember watching that in the cinema when the film came out when I was 10 years old. The scene combined with its dark score mesmerised me.
PIXAR was a huge part of my childhood. Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, Cars, Rattotulle, Up. It's such a shame to see such a wholesome, warm, artistic, and story telling industry that impacted our childhood's lives start to crumble. I don't recognise PIXAR these day's. It's a shell of what it once was. A company which released childhood classics is now resorted to recycled guff, woke cultural identity politics, and a lack of good ideas. It breaks my heart seeing PIXAR reduced to this. So sad 😢
I know really disappointing 😞
Its a shock, my last Pixar film that I watched before COVID was Coco and I have to concentrated to Master Thesis. After that got jobs in 2021, just in time COVID erupted. Last Pixar film feel interested is Turning Red since it gave me nostagia about 2000s. Cannot tolerate Lightyear and Elementals and now cannot even recognize Pixar with trailer of Inside Out 2, who on Earth make anxiety the sole emotion? Its a combination of emotions.
Thank you for giving John his flowers, I truly think that scandal was a way to get him out of power so they could push these boring agenda movies that he was against.
Current Disney destroys everything they touch! Thanks to Iger, DreamsWorks, Sony and even Illumination has filled the hole that used to be dominated by Disney/Pixar.
But other studios are not creative enough yet Disney lost all the creativity
John Lasseter and Hayao Miyazaki are two of my most loved animators. What they have in common is innovation and storytelling but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. Not to under play Isao Takahata's contributions to Ghibli he is a juggernaut (Princess Kaguya and Grave of the Fireflies are master classes in animation and storytelling). We now have both studios unable to capture the magic they once had.
The one saving grace is that Studio Ghibli has not been gobbled up by a western company and will unlikely be.
We are also on the cusp of another formula shakeup thanks to the decline of western cinema (thanks largely to Disney failing to keep people engaged).
i pray to GOD that Ghibli doesn’t get sold too disney or some other western company. There’s literally no way disney wouldn’t instantly ruin Ghibli
@@plootyluvsturtle9843there’s absolutely no way studio ghibli will ever be sold off to Disney. It’s a Japanese Studio and Hayao Miyazaki will never allow it
Great your defending John Lassen
Ghibli is the same IMO. It started falling off largely after Spirited Away which the 80s to early 2000s were their golden years. Howls and Ponyo were alright but not amazing like their past productions. Tales from Earthsea and many other ghibli films are as bad as some of the worst new Pixar movies, and Miyazaki's release this year wasn't that great either. Unfortunately I think most directors are only capable for a couple decades in their prime and staff that supported them start to fall off and do something else. Need a whole team to make a great production.
I think Ghibli is actually also in decline. Their more recent films like Aya to Majo doesn't sits well with fans. Even some of the older ones, like Gedo Senki is considered a bad film. Also, from what I've gathered, the newest film, Kimitachi wa Dou Ikiruka, is a confusing mess according to some Japanese. It's even featured in Hokkylo Ren, a UA-cam channel that talks about bad films.
Bro y’all remember when Pixar was straight up making banger after banger movies straight.
Wall.e and Up were the Peak, after that they just declined.
Yep. And now they Gayed-up their movies with their wokity wokeness and now it’s hard to see straight white males reflected as my heroes anymore 😢😢
Coco was the last good movie I can remember
@netnomad47 I think Toy Story 3 was the peak, after that, it just went so-so
@hulahula6182 Yeah, that was actually pretty good
Walt Disney would be ashamed for what these corporate overlords have done to his company and name.
He was one disgusting corporate overlord too...
@@ghostraider1169 how so?
@@ghostraider1169false
@@RXI63 Disney had a strike in 1941 and the national labor relations board asked him to sign the contract, after world war 2, he used the house of un-american activities to take his revenge and blacklist a shitload of his union employees from the entire industry. That's probably the most fucked up one, but in general he was a shit boss, and also kinda racist but back in the day that was pretty common anw
@@RXI63Despite being an animator himself, he opposed the animator’s strike of 1941. In fact, he fired almost all members of his workforce who protested.
I like how you identify the primary reason I've been saying for years on why Pixar has lacked a 'soul.' He was the heart and soul of Pixar's productions, heck even many Disney Productions he worked with them to make great. He was responsible for the Disney Ghibli Coop, he helped on films like Tangle, Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, among other Disney Productions. He was the champion that made Pixar and Disney great in the early 2000s.
As the saying goes “Every empire will eventually crumble, just make sure it doesn’t crumble in your lifetime”
I heard years ago that the story concepts for the first 10-15 films or so were all, developed in basically a single night. And that everything after that wouldn't be as successful.
How true the last part turned out
What do you mean?
@@mayanboricuathe original Pixar guys came up with the concepts for the first few Pixar movies while having a chat at the dinner table. I believe these include Toy story, ratatouille, the incredibles, finding Nemo, wall e, up and cars.
This is a true story. Literally back of a napkin stuff @@TalhaMansoor
Damn, and now they can’t even make a good movie in a year
That means all these bad movies are on purpose. They obviously know HOW to make a good movie. The propaganda is deliberate. It even seems they predicted their own downturn.
15:20 this is why I like this channel, every other video essay on Pixar uncritically buys the headlines and paints Lassiter as a predator. Thank you for actually looking further into it.
In reality the “accusations” were incredibly minor and at worst sounded like a guy who was overly physical. Hardly a threat to anyone. To this day people talk about him like he’s a criminal and he isn’t.
Yeah either way it never went to trial, no charges were filed far as I know. Nothing came of it and i hardly doubt he was well connected enough to buy off the charges given he lost his job and has name ran through the mud. It's the dark side of the Me2 era no one likes to talk about. False accusations that ruins peoples lives, and the accusers face no repercussions from their actions even if the victim goes to jail for years for it.
If you ever feel useless, remember that MeToo exists...@@JustaGuy_Gaming
There is also an interesting thing here. If he was the "predator" they claimed he was, then how can they explain that most of talent from Pixar followed him into Skydance? Surely if he was that bad no one would ever go with him, less to start a new studio... But oh well, Disney long tradition of fucking over their animators and then them going to make their own studios its still going.
@@phyrexian_dude4645 While I feel bad for what happened, it was honestly probably a good thing. While he was still at Pixar it seemed like Disney was interfering more and more with his work again. Getting an easy out of the company was the best thing for letting him make the movies he wanted.
I feel like disney made false claims to take Pixar I mean think about, Jon had no claims like what happened but now suddenly after Disney have taken over Jon got these claims is suspicious yknow
I wish that Pixar was like it was 20 years ago 😢
Everything was better 20 years ago, not just Pixar
@@Golemoidfr
@@Golemoid True
All things pass away, I assure there's a new pixar quality team already out there producing animated films but going unnoticed.
@@NTNG13i hope
I think DreamWorks is important to mention too. Puss in boots was also a fairly low budget movie with a box office well over 3-4 times its budget. It was an animated movie that I personally enjoyed even as an adult
Unfortunately after the allegations against John Lasseter, pixar had its ueart and soul riped out. Pixar used to be bold, creative and groundbreaking, now they rely in visuals to sell a movie without the investment in the story and angles to explore. A lot of history of this company is barely acknowledged by Disney, and thats where it became a shell of its former sekf
You do know Jhon Lasseter worked on many of the most uninspired Pixar movies right? Like the Incredibles 2 just to give an example
@@ratonagotica9447 Sure, no one is expected to make a masterpiece everytime, however, we can't forget all the good Pixar films that he directed (also Incredibles 2 was only uninspired because it was rushed, it lost a whole year's worth of production and script revision, all because of Toy Story 4 being delayed over and over again (and that movie i consider it to be the worst film Pixar has ever made (because it completely destroyed the Toy Story Series), now this isn't an excuse, we can all agree that Incredibles 2 sucks, but if they were given more time to work on it, it could have been a great sequel, one which I believe Brad Bird would be proud to have released).
@@inactivehorse9753 "we can all agree that Incredibles 2 sucks" and yet I know like ten people that love it, and it was well received by a lot of people. If you don't wanna like it that's fine, but you can't say everyone agrees it sucks, because people do like it
Disney destroys everything it touches.
How do we stop it
@@MORONIC_officialfor them not being woke. And not putting a agenda on every movie they put
@GraphicJ I think progressive things aren't bad without pushing an agenda forcefully (Spiderman across the spiderverse).
Which has some minor details about trans rights and stuff but it doesn't bother the movie in any way.
On the other hand with disney they push the agenda directly in your face which is quite annoying. Most disney properties (marvel, pixar and more) forcefully puts certain these ideologies infront of people in such a way that it is annoying. Yeah we can have strong female heroes but if u look again at the spiderverse and a lot of anime. They have great female characters without them pushing the agenda "well girls can be strong too and masculine hahaha"
And the movies just sucks. Like barbie was a kinda progressive movie but at the same time it was an enjoyable movie (ik it's not like super good but it was enjoyable unlike current Disney properties).
Disney: "Everything I touch dies! YUH-HUH!"
@@veggsbacon1891 pov: Disney took over your company: I'm MELTING!
I'll not get over how Disney advertised that one Character from Onward non-stop only for it to get less than a Minute of Screentime.
which character are you talking about?
Who?
What character?
The rock kid from the new movie
That one Character from Onward.
Big corporations do not foster creativity. If you want to create true art you need to be independent.
No, they just need to change behaviour. More interesting and different stories. Many more originals of different types of stories. Always do this at a less risky budget and make big budget sequels from the stories that the fans like.
Pixar was so wonderful when I was a kid! I love all the films up to Toy Story 3. I think it was the originality and unique storytelling that made it so magical. Now it's so corporate and has been completely hollowed out by Disney
Often the founding team is what makes a company successful. Pixar has been around so long that all its key people have moved on. Combine that with Disney execs taking over more and more of the management and it’s a surprise it lasted as long as it did.
I really liked Soul but I think that was the last one i really liked. The studio that" runs on tears" ( pixar created such moving stories thats what they were know for) has left the stage, really sad.
What about the recent movies besides lightyear hasn’t been heartwarming. Sure generational trauma has been a factor for turning red, elemental, and Luca but for the ladder two it wasn’t the main focus.
As many brilliant people say and understand. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Fun fact: this is also the reason why you remember embarrassing memories more than the happy ones! So you do the same thing again :)
@@ToastallyManonMcMarringtonso you don't do the same thing again*
they use "diversity" and "inclusion" to divide and exclude people
That's an oxymoron
@@albondebIronic, isn't it?
@@albondeb That's the point. "Diversity" literally means "Anyone who is not white".
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu And thus all the "Who are the REAL people of color" memes. All of this is leading for exactly the thing they "fear" to come crawling out of the woodwork.
thats weird. considering that into the spiderverse showed miles morales as an afrolatino teenager but didnt hyperfocus on that aspect of his identity in a way that distracted from the art and storytelling. diversity isnt a problem. its performative diversity hyped by liberals thats the problem. putting a gay couple in just to show a gay couple. making a mermaid black just to make her black. making the wife in a superhero family have her "girlboss" moment as her husband takes care of the kids. it wants to subvert stereotypes but all it does is shallowly portray niche experiences while becoming the focus over the actual storytelling and character development. it is definitely divisive because it makes people angry. when identity politics are involved in art making, creativity means nothing.
It hurts to see what happened to the company that gave me such fond memories with my kids going to see Nemo, Wall E etc.
Disney is truely the terminal cancer in the film industry.
One thing Pixar is doing right is their shorts. On Disney plus they have a bunch of them and they’re wonderfully animated, but also grounded-well told stories.
Moon knew what he was doing adding in Aunt Cass into the thumbnail 😏
The Pixar back then is completely different from Pixar now, mostly because of Disney corporate meddling and most to the old people the made Pixar back then left and replaced with new talent that still needs some to be on par with Pixar glory days.
new "talent" yeah
Pixar was dead once they signed off to be owned by Disney
Thank you
But weren't they owned by Disney since the incredibles? And made masterpieces like Ratatouille WALL-E Up Inside out Coco and so on?
@@Simbala-bq5vy I think those where before they sold pixar to disney those movies where the reason disney wanted the company they knew disney was a bad company because they say disney and pixar as if they where going to stay independent
@@Simbala-bq5vyThey were ownwd since Cars, but Pixar still managed to make those you mention.
I’m glad you didn’t just leave it at “it’s woke now” because seeing Pixar fall from grace made me cry.
Putting that one mom in big hero 6 as the thumbnail is crazy
I thought she was an Aunt?
once you see the larger narrative at play here
You will understand why they are intentionally destroying their own movies
Its absolutley insane to me that hundreds of millions of other people either cannot see whats going on with Pixar, or worse; do not care. Especially because this particular aspect* of the system is essentially aimed directly at the most vulnerable: children and teenagers.
@@physetermacrocephalus2209 so true it's so frustrating walking amongst the zombies
Can you help me see it?
@@WillAH956 yea bro your so smarter then everyone around on earth wow show me your ways bro
@@lostheir7988 They are propagandizing the psychologically vulnerable children and do not care even slightly about anything else. The damage from what they are doing will not be felt for at least a decade, but when it is felt it will be horrendous.
Moon knew EXACTLY what he was doing in that thumbnail 💀👌
The one with Steve Jobs? I think he changed the original one no?
@@OALM Damn honestly I forgot. Too bad he changed it
Being “Woke” isn’t killing Disney. Relying on their previous IP and blaming people for being bigots when in reality their movies have poor writing is what’s killing Disney. Disney has actually suppressed recent works that had lgbtq+ stuff in it when they release their films internationally and the films are still doing poorly.
Original stories and ideas aren't that hard to make, people just like to put their own emotions over others. Because of peoples high narcissism has ruined characters individual personalities. Now characters and stories are just tools for woke messages, instead of coming up with original ideas. Not to mention they don't teach good morals anymore, but fake morals that leave kids and adults confused. Also adding negative emotions like guilt into their messages, instead of a happy loving messages. Characters no longer grow or develop, they are just misunderstood by the world, for looking or being a certain way. People like to see others change into a better version of themselves as hope for real people too.
From being in NeXT (made by apple’s co-founder) to being purchased by Disney to pioneer 3d movies to this, what a rise and fall.
Hey, I was thinking that the book "The GIver" could be perfect for a video of a warning, cuz for example, everyone lives in Sameness, no real emotions exist and Jonas (protagonist) is the only one who experiments a "real life". Also some great points could be that war was once portraited as a game, but Jonas was the only one who understood what was the "true meaning" of the game. Hope you read this and give it a chance.
The giver deserves a video about it.
@@Geoffrey_Lawrence I read it this year for school, then I just read 100 (middle to the end) pages when the intereseting part kicks in, thats truly the first time I enjoyed reading.
I second the notion. I once read the book as part of a school assignment, then later on read a graphic novel adaptation. It's themes are worth looking into.
@@ElChanty46 they actually removed this from my regions curriculum a couple years back for some reason or another, definitely agree it needs a video
@@hiddendsyr865 how so, like it getting related to exagerated ideas like the case of the book 1984?
Disney should had protected John with all their might. The allegations were bull.
Maybe he actually did it, maybe they wanted him out
If only he had justice, look at Johnny Depp's case. Disney abandoned him, then apologized and wanted him back after finding out he wasn't guilty.
@@ratedr7845 Sadly John Lasseter doesn't have a clean state. Brave was originally directed by Brenda Chapman, but John got rid of her for some reason???? Since Brave turned out to be disappointing, John is fully to blame.
@@orangeslash1667 I guess he's not perfect
@@ratedr7845 The Chicken from Mona was originally going to be the leads guide, but John hated the character so much that if he didn't change the character would be removed. So Disney made him brain dead. Since no likes the bird, John might be wrong again????
It's sad to see a studio I once adored become what they are today. But regardless, they still had like, what, almost 20 years of masterpieces? That's not a bad run.
@24:40 the third gentleman pictured is Dr. Edwin Catmull, the literal co-founder of Pixar who without, many would argue, the Pixar story never happens. Highly recommend his book, Creativity Inc.
I dont watch most of the movies you talk about, like MCU, DCU, etc, but I still find your videos fascinating and seeing why my decision to never watch has been right for the last 15 years.
I love seeing that there are people who share my sentiment! I got dragged to two of them: avengers and black panther. I was looking around thinking, “unless you saw these in highschool, in 15 years no one will be referring to them as classics.”
something needs to be said that this same company would make movies that would make me blubber like a baby, to actual cringe. Two emotions opposite from eachother. Truly sad, but you can not take away whats already renedered, so for that I say thank you Pixar.
Firing John was the final nail. He was PIXAR.
This is such a tough pill to swallow, as their last film, "Elemental", is one of the best they've done in a while. But, it's hard to recognise the Pixar charm anymore with that Disney sheen. It's still there, I just think that Disney is ever-so-gradually dimming that charm.
Toy Story 4 just wasn’t good. After his departure, Lasseter’s script was retooled until we ended up with the final result.
I also completely ignored Lightyear for how Tim Allen was treated. They gambled everything on Chris Evans being more of a box office draw, and reaped what they sowed
UP will always be my favourite animated movie its such a beautiful masterpiece, it's so sad to see them go from that to the absolute dumpster fire quality movies they're pushing out now (with the exception of Soul)
It also references my country Venezuela, that's why I love it, and Christopher Plummer plays the villain Charles Muntz.
Ratatouille, WALL-E, and UP were literally consecutive releases!! Truly, works of art.
"We're coming together". - Disney.
"Wait, what?!" - Pixar.
The thumbnail made my dad scream “AYE YO!?”
Woah, people don’t like onward ? I’m surprised, I thought it had a ton of heart.
How Moon names his videos
1.Why (corporation/country) is collapsing, the coming (corporation/country) crisis.
2. (Movie/TV Show) tried to warn you.
"We wanted to make movies for everybody". The reason the latest Disney Pixar movies failed is because the execs didnt listen to that sentence above.
Disney are the borg at this point.
Anyone, or anything they touch, they add their creative and technological distinctiveness to their own, and then adapt them to service Disney.
However, and as is obvious by Disney's falling stock price and decreasing cultural good will, resistance is not futile.
Funny coincidence you released this 2 days after the Toy Story version of the Jags Falcons London Game.
You had me until you talked about Soul... Have you seen that movie!? It's actually my favorite pixar film and has a very mature message catered to an older audience. I've seen it many times and definitely didn't forget about it.
It's actually really sad seeing that Disney has completely taken over Pixar by sucking the life and soul from it. Pixar has become a shell of it's former selves thanks to Disney.
Disney and the pandemic really affected Pixar personal and been having a hard time recovering ever since. While they do show signs of recovery it’s going to be a long while before they return back to its former glory.
Elemental did surprisingly well internationally
True, but people aren’t mentioning that Disney gets a much smaller cut from international box office. Terminator Genesis also did great internationally but is still considered a loss for the studio.
Sad
Because everything Disney/Pixar is geared for China, and for whatever reason they lap it up like dehydrated manatees.
I'm kind of sad Elemental (kinda) flopped. I watched on Disney+ the other day, and it was actually kind of awesome
@@billusher2265 Dont they already get calculated in the total gross?
90's : what if toys had feelings
2020's: what if moon crickets had feelings
That's also the 90s 🐛
We have to understand that taking a risk of millions of dollars is not a joke it's easy to say someone lost their creativity but taking that risk for the producer is a heart attack for him. What if creativity fails the project and people hate it?
Then don't it, if something can be categorized as a creative endeavor there's a big risk. We would call it win big or lost big, high risk business. If you like to be the equivalent of pussy in business don't invest in high risk ventures dumbass. The price of revolutionizing tech has always been a high risk high gain investment. You people need to stop always putting all your eggs in the same basket.
And thats a reason to stop?
@@ratedr7845 obviously not ❤️
I think Pixar’s problem lately as with most of Hollywood has been the injection of ideology and politics. People want a good story to escape from the monotony of daily life; something Pixar was profoundly good at doing. The injection of anything divisive will always alienate a portion of an audience. It also seems to constrain any creativity as you have to craft story and characters around that message/ideology. This holds with not only “woke” movies but religious movies as well. Both have their place with respective ideologies in art; just not when a film/art is supposed to appeal to the masses. The only studio that seems to be killing it is illumination. I would love to see Pixar’s return to formula but I’m not holding my breath.
I can agree, but at the same time I loved one of their recent films because it didn’t bother appealing to a wide audience. I appreciated, for the first time, just what people meant when they say something’s “not for you.” The film felt generic to most people (it featured a forbidden romance, and most people felt that was too cliche), but it hit home for me and articulated what I felt beautifully on the screen.
Bruh
Most movies are political. You just don't notice or you support the politics and then don't care. Wall-E had a strong political message. It's funny for people to wall Star wars woke. But it's always been that way. The rebels (the good guys) were the communist viet cong and the fascist empire was a mix of the US and UK. WTF Do you mean illumination. None of their movies are Pixar good.
Yes, how dare people have a nonwhite, a nonstraight nonmale character in a movie
The fact that you cited illumination as a good animation studio goes to show that you should honestly shut up
This is the reason why I like Dreamworks
As a Dreamworks enjoyer, I agree
And mee 😂
dreamworks has always been superior. im a bit nervous about kung fu panda 4 but i trust them. they can still do good movies
To think Disney created Dreamworks accidentally, but just because they made a good Puss n' Boots movie, dosen't mean they will always have hits, like Ruby Gillman.
@@therewasoldcringeI love Kung Fu Panda, my favorite by Dreamworks, but do you think we needed Shrek 5?
It's sad to see pixar fall off so hard and great video moon :]
This video was made because had a sponsor that wanted a video for the start of the month 🙄
It isn’t just in the realm of movies, in all entertainment, in video games, to health care, medicine and career fields spanning numerous different professions the relentless pursuit of profit over all else is systematically destroying the best aspects of human ingenuity and creativity. The endless greed of a tiny percentage of executives and ceos has and will continue to rob the world of true innovation and creativity. I hope this death spiral of greed can stop but it is as likely as disney prioritizing creative heart over profit.
When i first heard there was "controversy" with lasseter i smelled something fishy. When i heard he was pushed out over hugs i knew pixar was done. He wanted to keep making good stories. They wanted to push the message.
whats the message?
OP of this comment just wants to sleep in on some problems "for being unimportant" , and wants us to "go back to bed" on it like all the "antiwoke" losers... I have this knowledge even though I'm a Republican, so... Guess why I never vote, but also I might this year. Asa Hutchinson FTW
I was always impressed with Pixar's creativity. There was a behind the scenes depicting the original beginning scene for the Incredibles and it was incredibly lame and cliche, a little too "on the nose", and yet what they did for the final movie was lightyears (!) better. I feel like all the Disney stuff being put out these days is going with that first draft instead of working on it a little more.
I really loved Toy Story I. In fact, I've had that animated movie on repeat back during the VHS era. Sad to see that the company that once made these gems are going down because of woke agendas and stuff.
Pixar were always my favorite movies. They do an amazing job. At least in the past. I haven't watched anything new in several years
Ok, i'm now convinced that these videos are heavily using AI to write the script, and the voice is 100% AI generated
yeah there was some parts that were kind of weird to me
@@plootyluvsturtle9843 There's just no way he is making all these videos manually. Ironically he is disney-fying his content lmao.
Raking in cash peddling conspiracy theories and fear-porn, all he has to do is pay a measly sum to a video editor
@@3urobobit's because these dipshit conservatives eat this content up, they can't think for themselves so they're really easy to exploit, just make them think they're smart/rebellious for thinking like a neanderthal and they'll consume anything you put out.
I will stand by Luca as a modern classic that was a breath of fresh air in the current year. It's a shame it got buried and forgotten....
Disney is the Devil was a common phrase 30 years ago for a reason.
Throwing out Lasseter over him being 'huggy' was a catastrophic error.
Pixar also worked on the localization for all of Studio Ghilibi's animated films with John Lesseter's close friendship with Hayo Miyazaki and getting the best VA talent to do the recordings for the English translations.
There was also Ed Catmull, the computer science genius that made the software for making the movies possible.
I will say I liked onward a good bit. Not as much as their classics of course, but I was honestly sad when I saw you included it with the flops.
Inside Out 2 ... Highest Grossing Animated Film Ever 😂
13:54 yeah one thing Pixar does great is that the non living cartoons feel just as real as flesh and blood actors. That can't be easy to do, definitely not by Disney. Good job original pixar
What the’s difference between old and new Pixar besides newer animation styles and some woke scene for 2 seconds.
New pixar : Soulless
Anything after Coco is meh
@@hulahula6182 What’s wrong with soul, turning red, elemental, Luca, and onward. I agree with lightyear being just okay but just because it had a okay movie doesn’t mean it’s fallen from grace. What about the time when cars 2 came out then the next few movies were considered stinkers in Pixar’s lineup but people weren’t freaking out. Now it’s like oh it’s a Disney product so it must be bad.
@@KirbyStarAnimation you don't get it, pixar isn't "just okay", pixar is supposed to be phenomenal. People didn't freak out after cars 2 because for every flop, pixar used to make 3 masterpieces afterwards.
Personally, I only deem pixar on a decline after they flopped movies that were meant to be slam dunks. Such as Incredibles 2, and finding dory. Last chance I gave them was soul, and soul was so forgettable that I just lost interest in future pixar movies
@@hulahula6182 I never said Pixar is just okay but just because they don’t make a phenomenal movie each time doesn’t mean they lost their talent. 3 of the least popular Pixar films good dinosaur, cars 2, and brave with good dinosaur being the worst performing and cars 2 being the most hated all came out very close to each other. Do I hate those films no. Pixar’s recent lineup has been pretty good to great excluding lightyear. They haven’t put less heart nor have not changed things up with elementals animation or turning red being more targeted towards girls. Look my favorite Pixar movie is ratatouille by a mile. Does that mean I should hate every movie after for not being as good no. Good dinosaur the worst performing movie is my second favorite Pixar film for piete sake. Just because they have a dud every once and a while doesn’t mean they’re losing their touch. And another thing. Do you think the last wish is great animation with a amazing message. Well soul had its message 2 years before that. I love the last wish but still. Also in my opinion Pixar has been more focused on emotion than ever since they haven’t been having villains for a while and instead focus on the characters. The movie with the least emotion recently lightyear was also the one with a villain. Pixar gives people what they want but just because lightyear had a female secondary protagonist people were saying it was woke. The thing that frustrates me is how people are acting like these companies have gone bad just because they’ve been doing the thing they’ve always done for their movies and then when they change the formula because people say it’s gotten stale people start to complain they’re no longer the same. I’m not happy with Toy Story 5 but it’s not like Pixar worst than every other company with this since companies that people say are now leagues better like dreamworks are doing Shrek 5 and kung fu panda 4. I don’t hate illumination or dreamworks with some of their movies being in my top ten favorite movies of all time over even some of my favorite Pixar films but that doesn’t mean they’re better.
Thumbnail definitely welcomes 12 year olds
I thought it was just me getting old but my Twenty-something kids starting their own families have no desire to watch PIXAR films. My son was all about the BuzzLightYear movie before it came out. When he saw it, he called it “a woke nightmare”. My daughter was bored silly with that Red “panda?” movie (don’t remember what it was about). I raised these kids on PIXAR VHS films. Who is the target audience for PIXAR?
That red "panda" movie was about girl's periods 😂
See you guys in another two months when moon releases a third “Disney is dying” video.
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Soul was really damn good IMO. So if anyone missed that one, check it out.
You nailed it. Great job!
Soul was underrated tbh probably the only stand out in the last few years
When even Pixar starts falling you know Disney really messed up.
Yeah, whenever companies or corporation's put greed ahead of the quality product for the customer, it's doomed to go bankrupt. And new younger companies rise up to fill the void.
Havent watched the video yet, just wanted to comment and say give kudos to moon! The videos are pumping out so consistently these days and are always informative and entertaining. Good job yall keep it up!
You really used the Aunt Cass edit for the thumbnail
“Cars 2 also didn’t Disappoint” sure, a movie about talking spy cars makes thematic and logical sense.
Most of these Pixar movies were outlandish, don't pretend otherwise
@@ratedr7845you're right, but cars 2 literally throws logic to a wood chipper with the spy cars literally thinking that mater is an undercover car like what kind of idiot would think that???
@@cellmitsolos9467.......yeah that was dumb
@@ratedr7845 At least it is entertaining, but it could've been better.
Im sure that "Caust" will will restore them to their former glory!
The key to Lucas selling Pixar was Howard the duck flopping. So, to that animal we owe everything.