This poor lost soul…I could cry for him. He was surrounded by and dependent on people that mainly harmed him, especially his own mother, who was straight from the devil. He was never given a shot at an easy life, therefore his downfall was inevitable. RIP Sid and Nancy-hopefully they’re both in the peace they deserve
I found an interview with Sid on youtube once, audio only, but he had amazing clarity. I was stunned at how articulate and intelligent he actually was. The image he showed the public was a false one. Nancy dying was the best and worst thing that could have happened to him. I truly believe he was just passed out at the wrong place and time and had nothing to do with her murder.
It was his dealer that murdered Nancy. When he walked in and saw sid he thought he was dead and started robbing the place, but he didn't realize that Nancy was in the bathroom and when she came out and saw him she tried to stop him from stealing but then he stabbed her.
I mean, people make their own choices. The most common theme I see is people wanting to allocate blame and I’ve always found that strange. Especially when so many people who seek oblivion in drugs have had lives of pain. As a former addict myself, I know that a lot of us are just as fine with dying as we are with each fix. Either would end the pain, but one is only temporary.
The mother was more of a friend than trying to be a loving, protective, and caring parent. To have given him that fatal dose to keep him away from a notoriously vile prison, that wasn't love, it was all about her. She didn't give a damn about him when he was a child, so she had felt the guilt by trying to make up for his doomed childhood. And with what? Heroin!!!! WOW, SOME MOTHER!!!! #continue2ripsidandnancy
all that drivel , you think you know shit about his mother from some 50 minute clip? Fake outrage just for SOME GAY HASHTAG???? #Continue2propupyourfacade
yup. Listen to how Johnny speaks about her... he was there at the time... he absolutely has no fondness for her whatsoever and absolutely blames her for Sid's death
"She didn't give a damn about him when he was a child" She did, but she was a junkie and that made it impossible to be any kind of parent at all, let alone a good one. You seem to have no clue what a being a junkie means so I suggest you look it up. What you should be asking is: 1) Why did nobody help her? She was a known junkie, everybody knew what went on at Sid's house and nobody gave a f*ck. 2) Why did nobody take Sid out of her care when he was oibviously in serious danger? 3) Sid was a very well known druguser and again: nobody gave a f*ck. Not just his mother, she was a junkie herself, but not even his f*cking manager tried to get him off the drugs. 4) What complete moron leaves a drug user in the care of another drug user? What you should do is go talk to somebody who works with drug addicts and ask them what the life of a heroine addict looks like. You might learn a few things and learn to keep your dumbass ignorant judgements to yourself.
I remember seeing him across the bar with Nancy at Max's. It's well known she would attack any girl who tried to approach him. I had to be careful not to look in that direction too much or I faced getting beat up!
The job of being a parent is not to be your child's friend,but their teacher. Sid's mother did not do anything to be a good mother,he could've gone further in life, especially with a good music career. He could've been up there with Billy Idol,The Ramones,The Misfits,Blondie,Talking Heads,The Clash,The Police and could've been an icon of the 1980s music,but no! Instead she served as an enabler hence the reason he's dead now.
My mom was my best friend, and I am friends with my kids, this woman was just messed up, she was probably never meant to have a child. Some people shouldn't. Sid's mother was one of them.
A majority of the comments seem to be praising this kid meanwhile on the Jim Morrison ep most call him talentless lol. If JM was talentless then this kid was just a straight up waste of space. He couldn’t play an instrument or sing. I have no idea why he was holding a guitar on stage. Literally anyone can do what he did. I’ve seen plenty of young people jump around at a punk concert. I’m not knocking him for being an addict and I really don’t take pleasure in talking about the dead like this but let’s be real. Mumble rappers have more talent than this kid did. At the end of the day he was someone who just followed the band around and partied with them and for whatever reason got called a band mate
@@voiceofreason2674 I’m just going by what some dude in this ep said. But why’d you say read the book? Refer me to a vid with proof of him playing something
"In the 2006 documentary Final 24, author Alan Parker claimed that Anne Beverley purposely administered a fatal dose of heroin to Vicious because he was afraid of going back to prison and had doubts about how good his lawyers were, even though the lawyers were certain they would clear his name. Parker's claim was immediately met with criticism, but the rumor became widespread. In a 2018 episode of the This Strange Life podcast, Parker admitted to inventing the story. He said he did so in order to garner a higher fee from the producers of Final 24. " Wiki
Alan Parker is full of it but people want to believe it because it makes Sid the perpetual victim. He killed himself that night by taking strong heroin after he'd been clean for a few months, the coroner even said it wasn't the amount of heroin, it was the strength of it.
Yeah and "dabble". Most occasions when one is described as to be dabbling in drugs, it's a hell of a lot more than that. Kind of like a "couple" of beers.😆
@@chrishowell6549 Or the reference made by one of River Phoenix's friends, saying using "works great" (if administered properly) which is a really stupid thing to say.
According to John Lydon, Sids mother got him a back of smack for his ?14th birthday? So if what John says is true, you are right, Spungen didn't get him into it, he was already half way there
It's the classic been clean for x amount of time and goes back to using the quality he was using but now his tolerance has gone down and he ends up overdosing.
More like the classic got clean, been clean, uses whatever amount despite quality bc doesn’t give a fuck whatsoever.. clearly. It happened to me ONCE . Many times I got locked up and used right when getting out, only once I OD’d.
My daughter passed away Age 25 she was introduced to crack & heroin my her boyfriend. In no way one this earth or any other would I give my daughter the same drugs. I tried everything 😪. YNWA HAYLEY 7/11/90-1/7/16.
It bothers me to no end that John Lydon was not included in this piece. He has spoken out about the whole affair a number of times and you would think that they would’ve included him!
Sad story. I was in my teens when the Sex Pistols broke out in the states. Years later I watched a documentary on the band -(The Filth and the Fury) I learned that Glen Matlock played bass on the album. Sid couldnt play a note. He was all just an image. I still listen to the Pistols but I dont imagine Sid creating/playing any type of music.
What states? This country is called the UNITED STATES, not 'the states.' "The states" is slick British talk to suggest that it is still their little thing.
His Mother literally makes me sick stomach. As a Mother or as a good Mother, You are suppose to Help your Child Not Hurt them. Show them love by showing them Affection not pump them full of Poison!!😣
I think the night she died was suicide-pact night. He's supposed to have taken thirty tuinal. He would totally have take a reckless handful of pills recreationally, but thirty would be deliberate, it would take work. He was supposed to die. He was too out of it to have killed her. He was dying. It took hours for her to bleed to death, but she never went for help. The problem is the knife wiped clean and left by the door. So who did that. DID she stab herself? Like some suggest? Maybe the dealer couldn't find any dope for her to OD, like in the movie. Maybe she had the dealer do it for the money because she had to die that night. People say he bragged he'd done and was seen with her money. Or maybe there was a fight and he did it. Either way, she never went for help. It's just weird. Afterwards Sid said he didn't keep his part of the bargain.
Sid wasn’t a BAD PERSON Just a 100% product of his environment from day one. And anyone passing judgement would’ve been exactly the same. Many would’ve been much worse.
Legend and Icon.........The t-shirt he`s wearing in this video was sold for USD $45,000 (GBP £37,000) in October 2019 by Juliens Auctions at the Hard Rock Café New York.
If old Rock and Roll fables are to be believed, poor Sid's cremains were dropped at an airport. I know to take these stories with a grain of salt yet that one really sticks out.
Why's the guy that gave Mac Miller drugs in jail and the guy that gave Sid drugs is doing interviews admitting it? I assume statute of limitations lol.
Mac’s was laced w fentanyl, Sid’s wasn’t laced- it was pure heroin, he just had far too low of a tolerance to survive the amount he shot up. If the shit Mac bought wasn’t laced with fentanyl, it wouldn’t have killed him. Unfortunately, he was so deep in the throes of addiction he likely would’ve ended up overdosing on his drug of choice later on, but he would’ve at least had a chance if that batch hadn’t been laced.
The bit I’ve never understood is…If the band members that had written the songs werent getting paid, then how tf was Sid affording to live in a hotel in NYC. I know it was ashit’ole but still stayin in any hotel every day isnt cheap how tf did they afford it? Was Nancy still turnin tricks?
The more I watch the documentary, the more I am convinced he killed his gf. He was in prison or the right reasons. The mother is the hero in this story.
I love the way there is so much suicide warning safety shit that actual video won't play. So safe. THANK YOU, UA-cam FOR KEEPING HUMANKIND SAFE!!!!!! We are all SO SAFE NOW! Weeeee!!!!! Happpy happy hahhhahahppppppyyy for everyone! No more death! No more suicide!!!! ALL THANKS TO UA-cam FOR PUTTING SAFETY WARNINGS ON VIDEOS!!! Oh dear holy God in sweet heaven above, please please don't ever let anyone go to youtube headquarters at 901 Cherry Avenue in San Bruno and burn it to the ground. Please lord, protect all of the blue haired, noseringed zhe/theys from being sprayed by automatic weapons fire while leaving the building after someone calls in a bomb threat. Oh man, I truly in my heart hope nothing ever happens to those people.
Seems like this whole is just blaming everyone else for his problems lmfao it’s his mom’s fault it’s Nancy’s fault blah blah blah in reality it was all Sid’s fault.
@@thomasjensen6243 If you look at many different sources, there is evidence that it could have been their drug dealer wanting her money. I don’t think he ever intended k*lling someone. Do you genuinely think he wanted to? Seriously? Especially reacting how he did after her death? None the less, he needed serious help and to get away from the people he was around. Not all m*rders or mental illness/addiction is black and white. There’s a gray area. You know there is a grey area to everything as well as I do. That’s why lawyers and psychologists exist,etc. If there wasn’t a grey area, life would be a hell of a lot different.
@@thomasjensen6243 Also, the only people that say stuff like that are privileged enough to never be in a situation or upbringing like that. I am happy for you.
I’ve always wondered if the mom had anything to do with his overdose 😬😬😬 IMO if she did...I couldn’t sleep or live with myself...ever!!! God forbid but if worst comes to worst...I would overdose myself also and follow him 😢😢😢 such a horrible thing to do
It makes me wonder where she was when Nancy was killed. I know the murders were vastly different, but if she thought Nancy was bad for him and had pulled him out of her life by taking him to New York. . .
She didn’t give him the hot shot, even confessed to it before she died, that and introducing it to him in the first place happy 16th birthday Sid. his mother was despicable.
I think the night she died was suicide-pact night. He's supposed to have taken thirty tuinal. He would totally have take a reckless handful of pills recreationally, but thirty would be deliberate, it would take work. He was supposed to die. He was too out of it to have killed her. He was dying. It took hours for her to bleed to death, but she never went for help. The problem is the knife wiped clean and left by the door. So who did that. DID she stab herself? Like some suggest? Maybe the dealer couldn't find any dope for her to OD, like in the movie. Maybe she had the dealer do it for the money because she had to die that night. People say he bragged he'd done and was seen with her money. Or maybe there was a fight and he did it. Either way, she never went for help. It's just weird. Afterwards Sid said he didn't keep his part of the bargain.
Maybe she was too out of it to get help. It seems like most of the blood was in the bed so she was clearly lying in it for a long time either sleeping or like you say letting herself bleed out deliberately then crawled to the bathroom and passed out with blood loss. We'll never know what truly happened but drugs are the cause of both their demise. Just a sad story all around, they were both so young.
24:45 "she told him he was even greater when he took smack..." How can ANYONE be greater if they take that shit? He's not shining out, he's zoning out.
+kate davenporty Google the name Rockets Redglare (or Red Glare).....he was a junkie/hanger-on back in the day from the Lower East Side....he's dead now, but a lot of people believe he killed Nancy....Nancy Spungen was a part of the NY music scene for several years already, and she had a way of pissing people off
I thought that surely everyone knows how inevitable it is to overdose on Heroin using a syringe, after a period of totally abstinence. Heroin has a high accumulation/tolerance in the body, and this is the reason why addicts have to take more and more. Once Smack is completely OUT of the system, the only safe way is to smoke it (if you feel you MUST) -as the effects are nowhere near as overwhelming. NEVER EVER EVEN TRY HEROIN or OPIATE tablets. It is an insidiously will-destroying poison. Don't think you are too smart to become addicted, because it has nothing to do with intellect. If your piers Are using H. ... AVOID them Completely. Go out to do some gardening with some good bud instead... Smell the flowers hear the songbirds and ... CHOOSE LIFE...
Raven Blue Very well said. I too speak from experience... The only way I got through was to stay away from anyone who was using. Some people assume they are too smart to become a slave to hard drugs. Nobody is. Nobody. Thanks for your response Raven Blue = )
Raven Blue Yeah, you know, I understand how people in the abyss just don't notice the beauty all around them. After doing a couple of withdrawals, a person can start to believe that it can ONLY come from a powder. You won't be able to convince them otherwise either, That's why I had to get away from living on the streets. Every morning, Pain until the first FIX. What a nightmare, so I left the big city and have now been clean for 10 years and yet I still shudder to think how I was back then. Never even Try hard drugs. I only use diesel now. LEMON Diesel or a similar thang. Good Luck, All the best and Thanks again = )
Ed Jones Great comment. Interesting. I have always thought that the main way people can help themselves is by completely avoiding ANYONE (socially) who still uses. You'd never be able to talk them out of it anyway, so all you can do is keep well clear. Obviously this means disconnecting yourself from quite a few people and leaves you in a kind of social hiatus. But what's more important ? I threw myself into my art, started playing keyboards, then became a carer. Takes the mind off things, you know. 12 years clean for me now and much happier. Stay clean, 'choose life'. You can do it Ed = )
She was the reason he was the way he was and she deserved to die for killing him. I also think it was the courts fault for letting him out of jail. if they would of left him there and not let him out he would probably have had a chance to live. But what kind of mother or parent would give their kid heroin?! Unbelievable...
+LUkEdUkE and missbitch67,i must agree.I myself have a 21 year old son and cannot imagine in a bloody fit ever giving him hard drugs like that.I don't want to sound like i am defending her actions,but i really believe in ending it all for him,in her mind she was acting out of love.I know we struggle to understand that because it is seriously fucked up and not what you or i would do with our kids..but remember they were a very very dysfucnctional fucked up pair.She did what many single parents do and acted like a friend instead of a parent.Grossly irresponisble and inexcusable,but addiction IS fucked up and fucks people up.Poor Sid,doomed from the get-go.Tragic indeed.And Nancy was no better for him either.
+missbitch67 it makes me wonder what kind of upbringing she had..maybe abuse or something? you would have to be very,very fucked up to sit there doing heroin with your own son!
He was no victim definitely this man killed animals he actually hung a poor cat to death the cat defecated all over screaming bloody murder he did it in front of a friend named mark it's in another documentary he hung someone's cat sicko twisted asshole bastard I don't feel sorry for him not one bit
Absolute crap that Sid hadn't had heroin before Nancy. His mum was a junky and had given him smack many times, he didn't have a habit but he was no innocent.
Ed Jones I hear what you're saying my friend, I'm no innocent myself. To a normal person, taking heroin is a big deal, crossing the line, when you've grown up watching mummy and her pals fixing and mummy even gives you the stuff and teaches you how to shoot up you're bound to consider it almost acceptable.
if it hadnt have been that night,it was gonna happen soon. he was too far gone as an addict.
This poor lost soul…I could cry for him. He was surrounded by and dependent on people that mainly harmed him, especially his own mother, who was straight from the devil. He was never given a shot at an easy life, therefore his downfall was inevitable. RIP Sid and Nancy-hopefully they’re both in the peace they deserve
I found an interview with Sid on youtube once, audio only, but he had amazing clarity. I was stunned at how articulate and intelligent he actually was. The image he showed the public was a false one. Nancy dying was the best and worst thing that could have happened to him. I truly believe he was just passed out at the wrong place and time and had nothing to do with her murder.
It was probably his despicable mother that killed Nancy.
Same
It was his dealer that murdered Nancy. When he walked in and saw sid he thought he was dead and started robbing the place, but he didn't realize that Nancy was in the bathroom and when she came out and saw him she tried to stop him from stealing but then he stabbed her.
His Mum gave him drugs on his 16th Birthday...He was doomed sadly.
What an absolute mess.
These people were.
Is that you pippa, hows bobbie and alf Stuart doing
Giving him more after an overdose..jeez. Common thread of all these final episodes: Bad company.
I mean, people make their own choices. The most common theme I see is people wanting to allocate blame and I’ve always found that strange. Especially when so many people who seek oblivion in drugs have had lives of pain. As a former addict myself, I know that a lot of us are just as fine with dying as we are with each fix. Either would end the pain, but one is only temporary.
@@charlottecobain6986 right on
Troll
Rest in Peace both Nancy and Sidney 😢
The mother was more of a friend than trying to be a loving, protective, and caring parent. To have given him that fatal dose to keep him away from a notoriously vile prison, that wasn't love, it was all about her. She didn't give a damn about him when he was a child, so she had felt the guilt by trying to make up for his doomed childhood. And with what? Heroin!!!! WOW, SOME MOTHER!!!! #continue2ripsidandnancy
all that drivel , you think you know shit about his mother from some 50 minute clip? Fake outrage just for SOME GAY HASHTAG???? #Continue2propupyourfacade
yup. Listen to how Johnny speaks about her... he was there at the time... he absolutely has no fondness for her whatsoever and absolutely blames her for Sid's death
"She didn't give a damn about him when he was a child"
She did, but she was a junkie and that made it impossible to be any kind of parent at all, let alone a good one.
You seem to have no clue what a being a junkie means so I suggest you look it up.
What you should be asking is:
1) Why did nobody help her? She was a known junkie, everybody knew what went on at Sid's house and nobody gave a f*ck.
2) Why did nobody take Sid out of her care when he was oibviously in serious danger?
3) Sid was a very well known druguser and again: nobody gave a f*ck. Not just his mother, she was a junkie herself, but not even his f*cking manager tried to get him off the drugs.
4) What complete moron leaves a drug user in the care of another drug user?
What you should do is go talk to somebody who works with drug addicts and ask them what the life of a heroine addict looks like. You might learn a few things and learn to keep your dumbass ignorant judgements to yourself.
No he wasn't. He was suing the manager.
my mom was my best friend, but she wouldn't ever dream of harming me by giving me drugs, this woman was not ever meant to be a mother...
I remember seeing him across the bar with Nancy at Max's. It's well known she would attack any girl who tried to approach him. I had to be careful not to look in that direction too much or I faced getting beat up!
The job of being a parent is not to be your child's friend,but their teacher. Sid's mother did not do anything to be a good mother,he could've gone further in life, especially with a good music career. He could've been up there with Billy Idol,The Ramones,The Misfits,Blondie,Talking Heads,The Clash,The Police and could've been an icon of the 1980s music,but no! Instead she served as an enabler hence the reason he's dead now.
Billy Idol and Blondie could sing though.
My mom was my best friend, and I am friends with my kids, this woman was just messed up, she was probably never meant to have a child. Some people shouldn't. Sid's mother was one of them.
A majority of the comments seem to be praising this kid meanwhile on the Jim Morrison ep most call him talentless lol. If JM was talentless then this kid was just a straight up waste of space. He couldn’t play an instrument or sing. I have no idea why he was holding a guitar on stage. Literally anyone can do what he did. I’ve seen plenty of young people jump around at a punk concert. I’m not knocking him for being an addict and I really don’t take pleasure in talking about the dead like this but let’s be real. Mumble rappers have more talent than this kid did. At the end of the day he was someone who just followed the band around and partied with them and for whatever reason got called a band mate
All Malcolm McLaren's fault. Pistols were just a fashion band
Sid could play the bass guitar well enough he wasn’t up there just talking he could strum along in the correct chord , read the book
@TUbIuyola you missed the point of my argument chief but that’s okay
@@voiceofreason2674 I’m just going by what some dude in this ep said. But why’d you say read the book? Refer me to a vid with proof of him playing something
@Frankie Franklin a fashion band. You obviously haven't listened to the album have you. One of the best albums ever. Fast hard punk rock
"In the 2006 documentary Final 24, author Alan Parker claimed that Anne Beverley purposely administered a fatal dose of heroin to Vicious because he was afraid of going back to prison and had doubts about how good his lawyers were, even though the lawyers were certain they would clear his name. Parker's claim was immediately met with criticism, but the rumor became widespread. In a 2018 episode of the This Strange Life podcast, Parker admitted to inventing the story. He said he did so in order to garner a higher fee from the producers of Final 24. "
Wiki
Alan Parker is full of it but people want to believe it because it makes Sid the perpetual victim. He killed himself that night by taking strong heroin after he'd been clean for a few months, the coroner even said it wasn't the amount of heroin, it was the strength of it.
Even In death.he gives the charlatans
Anything. For. A buck or nickel or a.dime THE BASTARDS.
Always, that word 'Experiment' - brought in to make drug taking look like a bold, creative activity.
Yeah and "dabble". Most occasions when one is described as to be dabbling in drugs, it's a hell of a lot more than that. Kind of like a "couple" of beers.😆
@@chrishowell6549 Or the reference made by one of River Phoenix's friends, saying using "works great" (if administered properly) which is a really stupid thing to say.
Leftists LOVE people like this.
who needs enemies when you have a mother like that🤦
Nancy did not get him onto heroin.. His mother was supplying him heroin when he was in his early teens
She exaggerated the addiction unfortunately…their lives were very sad and both set up for failure.
Shocking!
According to John Lydon, Sids mother got him a back of smack for his ?14th birthday? So if what John says is true, you are right, Spungen didn't get him into it, he was already half way there
It's the classic been clean for x amount of time and goes back to using the quality he was using but now his tolerance has gone down and he ends up overdosing.
Nobody gets that about heroin.
Quantity not quality
@@Poppa_Capinyoaz "we" all get it but risk vs reward. we choose 'eh Russian roulette with my life' though. Then we fuck around and find out
More like the classic got clean, been clean, uses whatever amount despite quality bc doesn’t give a fuck whatsoever.. clearly. It happened to me ONCE . Many times I got locked up and used right when getting out, only once I OD’d.
@@rantingintothevoid righttttt
Whose Mother knows where to buy heroin?
Even if your Mother knows where to buy heroin what kind of Mother buys it for her addicted child?
An addicted mother.
A junkie mother who got her son addicted.
You'd be surprised. I've seen worse.
the definition of Killing your own Son with love..
Each mother got their own unique way for loving their childs
that is for sure
that is not love
Oh please, guy was a junkie. You know who killed him? Himself.
His mother.
I can’t imagine living with myself if I gave something to someone that dies because of it!
If you knew the sickness of the lifestyle and the suffering your child would go threw you wouldn’t think twice
@@putitback4789 I’m sorry, I wouldn’t think twice about what?
It’s amazing you watched and still don’t have. Sense of what these people were going through.
My daughter passed away Age 25 she was introduced to crack & heroin my her boyfriend. In no way one this earth or any other would I give my daughter the same drugs. I tried everything 😪. YNWA HAYLEY 7/11/90-1/7/16.
@@scousesurvivor9816 I put you in my prayer journal…I’m so sorry. I cant imagine living without my daughter. I’ll lift you up daily!
Such a tragic life he lived,very sad indeed,Rip Sid.
The entire video explained in the first 30 seconds, thanks for the time saver lol.
" He'd be aquitted, and playing music again "?????? He couldn't play at all!!!
Rest in peace Sid and Nancy 🙏😌
John lyndon was way to smart to be involved with junkies and there destruction
It bothers me to no end that John Lydon was not included in this piece. He has spoken out about the whole affair a number of times and you would think that they would’ve included him!
knowing john, he probably said no
@@hisfavworstnightmare True that!
He was likely one of the first people to be contacted. He is very selective on who he talks with about Sid's demise.
Not a lot of talk about Nancie's death .
It's better to burn out than fade away.
John Lydon has a few choice words for Neil Young.
Sad story. I was in my teens when the Sex Pistols broke out in the states. Years later I watched a documentary on the band -(The Filth and the Fury) I learned that Glen Matlock played bass on the album. Sid couldnt play a note. He was all just an image. I still listen to the Pistols but I dont imagine Sid creating/playing any type of music.
What states? This country is called the UNITED STATES, not 'the states.' "The states" is slick British talk to suggest that it is still their little thing.
@@HardCold-Alquan
Bollocks. it's the states
@@HardCold-Alquan get ya head out if ur ass man they didnt say a damn thing about our country in a negative way
@@HardCold-AlquanI don’t think it’s that serious 💀
@@HardCold-Alquan I'm from Louisville KY and still sometimes refer to us as the states. Nothing wrong with that.
So sad. RIP Sid and Nancy!
Sid Vicious Was My Mentor And Friend And Taught Me Everything About Punk Rock Music
Having a hit so soon after an OD is just crazy - it took me 3 days after mine to even consider doing kit again - he must have been totally lost...
Such a gross story.
Sis Vicious had 19hrs left to live when he got out of prison 😥😥😥
His Mother literally makes me sick stomach. As a Mother or as a good Mother, You are suppose to Help your Child Not Hurt them. Show them love by showing them Affection not pump them full of Poison!!😣
Some people should never be parents.
Mother of the year!!!!
I never realized Jerry Only was present with Sid Viscous in the apartment the night Sid died.
"HE NEVER GREW UP"! "HE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO"!!!?
THE LORD KEEP YOU SID!
R.I.P.
Great series
Very sad. Couple of years older than me.... 🙏
Great series.
It will probably always be a mystery god bless Sid 🎸
Rip to the legend sid vicious
Legend? At what, being a drug addict? The guy had no talent, charisma a little, but absolutely no talent.
Guy playing the part of Sid in this Documentary is all wrong. Too short and heavy. Sid was tall and extremely thin
Sad.
You did it your way Sid..yes you did. 💖
I think the night she died was suicide-pact night. He's supposed to have taken thirty tuinal. He would totally have take a reckless handful of pills recreationally, but thirty would be deliberate, it would take work. He was supposed to die. He was too out of it to have killed her. He was dying. It took hours for her to bleed to death, but she never went for help. The problem is the knife wiped clean and left by the door. So who did that. DID she stab herself? Like some suggest? Maybe the dealer couldn't find any dope for her to OD, like in the movie. Maybe she had the dealer do it for the money because she had to die that night. People say he bragged he'd done and was seen with her money. Or maybe there was a fight and he did it. Either way, she never went for help. It's just weird. Afterwards Sid said he didn't keep his part of the bargain.
It's devastating what happened to Sid. A casualty of a corrupt system which is what had spawned the Sex Pistols in the first place.
Not devastating at all. He had it coming……
@@jackmidst8304 You're evidently ignorant.
He said “we beat her up” 😂🤣
Sid Vicious was born on May 10 not 27, 1957
Yep he shares a birthday with my daughter
The days before narcan
Sid wasn’t a BAD PERSON
Just a 100% product of his environment from day one.
And anyone passing judgement would’ve been exactly the same. Many would’ve been much worse.
Between the link band era and the hideous boy band era- I’d take the former any day 👍
Was Peter Kodik ever charged with Murder?
Of course not, his mum would've been first in line if charges were going to happen
GOOD DOCUMENTARY ! TUESDAY 11/15/22 NOVEMBER 15, 2022
After he overdosed, he must have known anymore would kill him. I don't think I will ever understand why people do drugs. What a waste.
I love how they blame everything on the murdered girlfriend,,, classic Garbage of making him the hero
Do a video on Amy whinehouse
Legend and Icon.........The t-shirt he`s wearing in this video was sold for USD $45,000 (GBP £37,000) in October 2019 by Juliens Auctions at the Hard Rock Café New York.
Maximum creep factor from the manager
If old Rock and Roll fables are to be believed, poor Sid's cremains were dropped at an airport. I know to take these stories with a grain of salt yet that one really sticks out.
Oh well there goes another one of life's losers! He didn't stand a chance did he, with a mother like that! I wonder what her story was? Can't be good!
He burnt his life faster than ...
Understand one thing to people that talk about Syd Barrett when he's dead. There looking for stardom in a sense
watch him ?...who's gonna watch mom?
Matlock quit?? BULL!! He chose Sid? Even more laughable! He didn’t want ice cream he wanted pizza….
Dude playing Sid looks 35
Why's the guy that gave Mac Miller drugs in jail and the guy that gave Sid drugs is doing interviews admitting it? I assume statute of limitations lol.
Laws have changed since 1979...
Well, to be fair, dude didn’t give him the drugs. Mom bought it from the guy and then SHE gave it to Sid.
Mac Miller also didn't murder his gf. Laws only recently changed allowing the prosecution of the dealer in an overdose
Mac’s was laced w fentanyl, Sid’s wasn’t laced- it was pure heroin, he just had far too low of a tolerance to survive the amount he shot up. If the shit Mac bought wasn’t laced with fentanyl, it wouldn’t have killed him. Unfortunately, he was so deep in the throes of addiction he likely would’ve ended up overdosing on his drug of choice later on, but he would’ve at least had a chance if that batch hadn’t been laced.
idk but wasn't the shit that was sold to Mac Miller laced? That could have something to do with it...
Where was his father ?
probably absent since day one
The bit I’ve never understood is…If the band members that had written the songs werent getting paid, then how tf was Sid affording to live in a hotel in NYC. I know it was ashit’ole but still stayin in any hotel every day isnt cheap how tf did they afford it? Was Nancy still turnin tricks?
Sid was given an advance from a record company to become a solo artist
@@amaj7313 ahh ok. His money management wasn’t too clever then…😂🤣
@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse probably a bit of both.
@@ndnaf3705 I reckon…
It was the Chelsea Hotel where people paid with paintings
so nobody acuaully knows nothing
Well at least they are all reunited in hell 😂
Punk hard man ? 🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡
Lose the laughable narrator
Very good
very disrespectful
The more I watch the documentary, the more I am convinced he killed his gf. He was in prison or the right reasons. The mother is the hero in this story.
How can a mother be a hero for murdering her own son? that is some dark twisted shit.
Shit happens
I love the way there is so much suicide warning safety shit that actual video won't play. So safe. THANK YOU, UA-cam FOR KEEPING HUMANKIND SAFE!!!!!! We are all SO SAFE NOW! Weeeee!!!!! Happpy happy hahhhahahppppppyyy for everyone! No more death! No more suicide!!!! ALL THANKS TO UA-cam FOR PUTTING SAFETY WARNINGS ON VIDEOS!!!
Oh dear holy God in sweet heaven above, please please don't ever let anyone go to youtube headquarters at 901 Cherry Avenue in San Bruno and burn it to the ground. Please lord, protect all of the blue haired, noseringed zhe/theys from being sprayed by automatic weapons fire while leaving the building after someone calls in a bomb threat. Oh man, I truly in my heart hope nothing ever happens to those people.
Poncy goof.
Another victim of Fame
No great loss.
I could say the same about your mother, couldn't i
waste of skin
Seems like this whole is just blaming everyone else for his problems lmfao it’s his mom’s fault it’s Nancy’s fault blah blah blah in reality it was all Sid’s fault.
Saved the tax payers a lot of money....😁
Seems you care more about money than people. Says a lot about how you’ll be treated in whatever afterlife you believe in. Good luck to you.
@@stopbeingana-hole4151 yeah, I don't care much for murderers, just like most people and most governments.
@@thomasjensen6243 If you look at many different sources, there is evidence that it could have been their drug dealer wanting her money. I don’t think he ever intended k*lling someone. Do you genuinely think he wanted to? Seriously? Especially reacting how he did after her death? None the less, he needed serious help and to get away from the people he was around. Not all m*rders or mental illness/addiction is black and white. There’s a gray area. You know there is a grey area to everything as well as I do. That’s why lawyers and psychologists exist,etc. If there wasn’t a grey area, life would be a hell of a lot different.
@@thomasjensen6243 Also, the only people that say stuff like that are privileged enough to never be in a situation or upbringing like that. I am happy for you.
I’ve always wondered if the mom had anything to do with his overdose 😬😬😬 IMO if she did...I couldn’t sleep or live with myself...ever!!! God forbid but if worst comes to worst...I would overdose myself also and follow him 😢😢😢 such a horrible thing to do
It makes me wonder where she was when Nancy was killed. I know the murders were vastly different, but if she thought Nancy was bad for him and had pulled him out of her life by taking him to New York. . .
She didn’t give him the hot shot, even confessed to it before she died, that and introducing it to him in the first place happy 16th birthday Sid. his mother was despicable.
Ego money drugs. :(
No fat lip no black eyes just stories
Listen. GMOH. I was Never Here.
GMTFOH
It's All about the Sex Pistols.
Strange how time's have changed.
BTW JOHNNY KNOXLY... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'M THE 👆.
Poor junkies.....
Heh. I've no sympathy for junkies. Ever.
This was so sad. Drugs do nothing but kill lives.
no
+Ann Leigh amen to that.
Yep
I think the night she died was suicide-pact night. He's supposed to have taken thirty tuinal. He would totally have take a reckless handful of pills recreationally, but thirty would be deliberate, it would take work. He was supposed to die. He was too out of it to have killed her. He was dying. It took hours for her to bleed to death, but she never went for help. The problem is the knife wiped clean and left by the door. So who did that. DID she stab herself? Like some suggest? Maybe the dealer couldn't find any dope for her to OD, like in the movie. Maybe she had the dealer do it for the money because she had to die that night. People say he bragged he'd done and was seen with her money. Or maybe there was a fight and he did it. Either way, she never went for help. It's just weird. Afterwards Sid said he didn't keep his part of the bargain.
Maybe she was too out of it to get help. It seems like most of the blood was in the bed so she was clearly lying in it for a long time either sleeping or like you say letting herself bleed out deliberately then crawled to the bathroom and passed out with blood loss. We'll never know what truly happened but drugs are the cause of both their demise. Just a sad story all around, they were both so young.
Who is she? Nancy or his mom?
One thing is clear:
Punk IS Dead
+AGS363 Punk isn't dead, its just sleeping on a park bench downtown and smells really bad.
Punk is dead and that bullshit media is alive. Yea let good music die people.... Smh
Karla Duenas Yes, ...Unfortunately.
and women cannot be trusted
AMEN !!
24:45 "she told him he was even greater when he took smack..." How can ANYONE be greater if they take that shit? He's not shining out, he's zoning out.
+ClarenceFisher hell yes,i agree.I have known loads of junkies and let me tell you NO-ONE is improved by that shit.
+ClarenceFisher Yes, heroin shuts down creativity..people become locked into their little dreamy bubble. The light is extinguished, not lit.
Sorry who nancy or anne
i dislike the fact that this doco ignored the fact that there is MUCH evidence to support Sids innocence.
+kate davenporty Google the name Rockets Redglare (or Red Glare).....he was a junkie/hanger-on back in the day from the Lower East Side....he's dead now, but a lot of people believe he killed Nancy....Nancy Spungen was a part of the NY music scene for several years already, and she had a way of pissing people off
a child pretending to be a rock star.....poor kid
I thought that surely everyone knows how inevitable it is to overdose on Heroin using a syringe, after a period of totally abstinence. Heroin has a high accumulation/tolerance in the body, and this is the reason why addicts have to take more and more. Once Smack is completely OUT of the system, the only safe way is to smoke it (if you feel you MUST) -as the effects are nowhere near as overwhelming. NEVER EVER EVEN TRY HEROIN or OPIATE tablets. It is an insidiously will-destroying poison. Don't think you are too smart to become addicted, because it has nothing to do with intellect. If your piers Are using H. ... AVOID them Completely.
Go out to do some gardening with some good bud instead... Smell the flowers hear the songbirds and ... CHOOSE LIFE...
Raven Blue Very well said.
I too speak from experience... The only way I got through was to stay away from anyone who was using. Some people assume they are too smart to become a slave to hard drugs. Nobody is. Nobody.
Thanks for your response Raven Blue = )
Raven Blue Yeah, you know, I understand how people in the abyss just don't notice the beauty all around them. After doing a couple of withdrawals, a person can start to believe that it can ONLY come from a powder. You won't be able to convince them otherwise either, That's why I had to get away from living on the streets. Every morning, Pain until the first FIX. What a nightmare, so I left the big city and have now been clean for 10 years and yet I still shudder to think how I was back then. Never even Try hard drugs. I only use diesel now. LEMON Diesel or a similar thang.
Good Luck, All the best and Thanks again = )
Yes and Yes it is. It's turned into vapour now tho ! -Hear those song-birds singing..
Good Luck to you too buddy = )
Raven Blue You're still my friend = )
Ed Jones Great comment. Interesting.
I have always thought that the main way people can help themselves is by completely avoiding ANYONE (socially) who still uses.
You'd never be able to talk them out of it anyway, so all you can do is keep well clear. Obviously this means disconnecting yourself from quite a few people and leaves you in a kind of social hiatus. But what's more important ? I threw myself into my art, started playing keyboards, then became a carer.
Takes the mind off things, you know.
12 years clean for me now and much happier.
Stay clean, 'choose life'.
You can do it Ed = )
What a wonderful Mother! (Sarcasm people)
She was the reason he was the way he was and she deserved to die for killing him. I also think it was the courts fault for letting him out of jail. if they would of left him there and not let him out he would probably have had a chance to live. But what kind of mother or parent would give their kid heroin?! Unbelievable...
+LUkEdUkE and missbitch67,i must agree.I myself have a 21 year old son and cannot imagine in a bloody fit ever giving him hard drugs like that.I don't want to sound like i am defending her actions,but i really believe in ending it all for him,in her mind she was acting out of love.I know we struggle to understand that because it is seriously fucked up and not what you or i would do with our kids..but remember they were a very very dysfucnctional fucked up pair.She did what many single parents do and acted like a friend instead of a parent.Grossly irresponisble and inexcusable,but addiction IS fucked up and fucks people up.Poor Sid,doomed from the get-go.Tragic indeed.And Nancy was no better for him either.
+missbitch67 it makes me wonder what kind of upbringing she had..maybe abuse or something? you would have to be very,very fucked up to sit there doing heroin with your own son!
+missbitch67 Shocking eh, most addict parents don't ever want their children to go the same way........much less what happened here, allegedly.
+LUkEdUkE walk a mile in their shoes.....
Wow...Jerry Only has been involved in two deaths. First Sid then Misfits! 😭😭😭😭
this video is incredibly biased to make sid look like such a poor innocent victim of everyone around him.
Agreed, a talentless junkie who people had to suffer.
He was no victim definitely this man killed animals he actually hung a poor cat to death the cat defecated all over screaming bloody murder he did it in front of a friend named mark it's in another documentary he hung someone's cat sicko twisted asshole bastard I don't feel sorry for him not one bit
Absolute crap that Sid hadn't had heroin before Nancy. His mum was a junky and had given him smack many times, he didn't have a habit but he was no innocent.
Ed Jones I hear what you're saying my friend, I'm no innocent myself. To a normal person, taking heroin is a big deal, crossing the line, when you've grown up watching mummy and her pals fixing and mummy even gives you the stuff and teaches you how to shoot up you're bound to consider it almost acceptable.