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Can you really go to prison for non-payment?
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- Gavin from Sovereign Empowerment joins me to discuss whether you can be put in prison if you do not pay the council Tax
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Richard you should get Gavin to talk about nesara gesara fascinating
Hi Richard ,
I arrested hull mp turnip over 7 years ago ,
This lead me on a path of been shafted by hull cc corrupt cllrs & staff .
I’d love to inform yourself about how bad hull ( & all councils ) are fiddling the books , fraudulent elections, stealing publics money , & even murder .
It’s more sick than you think .
We all need to stand together & simply refuse to pay it. They can’t arrest everyone.
No they can't arrest everyone true,but are you personally going to be the first??
So you want the same services as people that do pay it?.
@@dananton7370 First of all the money does not go directly to the council!
So if nobody pays council tax we will have to do without the police bin collections schools building inspectors I suppose we will have buildings collapse but does that really matter. I’d rather😊 have Richards lawless society you can Mug people children not having to go to school not having to take exams. What a foundation for the. That made Richard so happy when he was told councils up and down the country are collapsing. Richard is a step closer to his unorganised shambolic community. The pair of them are unbelievable.
@@Rob-on-the-Road no shit!... Of course it doesn't because some places are wealthier than others and have bigger populations, so it goes to a central pot then devided out!. And only a fucking moron would say "first of all" then only make one point 🤦🏻♂️😂😂
"A fair tax is every bit as absurd as a fair theft".
Why - how are you going to fund public services?
What public services?@@StudentDad-mc3pu
no royals or corrupt government = no council tax
FREEDOM
I recognise none of them.
You forgot Income Tax never paid it for 3 years 😊
You are so nieve
@@rowan7658 is there someone close by that can help you with english? all comments in english ,thanks
You can't go to jail in Scotland for debts... Nor can bailiffs enter your property to remove goods...
I know they would get a right mouthful
I'm moving to Scotland then.👍
Nice. I believe someone's home is their castle, and that nobody has the right to enter.
If you have a debt it can be cleared if you go to citizens advice!..but then you can't have any credit for a period of time.
@@mareegeorge8641 statute of limitations, ignore it for 6 years, unless it's property, then it's 12.
It doesn't really matter if they can lock you up or not, prisons are full and even real criminals are not being locked up! Great interview Richard & Gavin as always many thanks
This channel is the bastion of ignorance.
Everyone who gave this stupid comments a thumbs up is deluded. Reality will sort you out.
Have you not noticed that crimes against plebs' bodies/minds are increasingly treated as a non-event by the authorities, whereas not submitting to authorities' will is being treated as heinous? This is consistent with the legal system they're "building back" to.
They'll lock up the odd one to make an example, for it'll be cost-effective by encouraging compliance and the old money-go-round to the benefit of those involved eg Serco. Feeling lucky?
@@markholt2160why do you say that🤔
New prisons in UK 6 ..Wellingborough with a crematorium onsite
Why have they made public think there are no empty prison s?
Richard I absolutely loved that interview. Power to the People. We have been in a fear based scenario with Council Tax which as we know is unjust for so long. We will watch them fall.
i wonder which country invented ct in the first place .
@@sweeta17er the UK
If you ever see me getting kidnapped, would you intervene then? Power to the people remember.@yvonnefalconer3018
@@chiphawkins42 i know this talk is about it in the uk . i am curious which country invented ct or do you mean the uk did .
They have just awarded themselves a 12% pay rise on the backs of the misery they're imposing on people that can't afford CT. The whole system's falling apart and the sooner the better.
Corruption everywhere!!
We should not pay CT until the government tell us why we have so many illegal immigrant young men who are being housed allowed to work, entitled to health, dental and optical services, while we have homeless people/ veterans existing on our streets...
Yes, council tax money is being used to fund the biggest foreign invasion in British history.
Some of them cease to even exist as they die on the streets
In April when I receive my tender (offer) for council services I will immediately be writing to them to advise that I do not accept their offer and will be seeking more competitive services elsewhere. I will be cancelling my direct debit and if I receive any correspondence I will re-send them my letter declining the offer, which therefore proves there is no contract. Any harassment that occurs will require compensation for damages under a Civil Claim
Great comment 👌
Will it bot .You'll get fined ,or be made bankrupt , lose your home , wage taken direct from employer...it goes on , but do tell what you claim happened , later .
Everyone who has been hassled by these evil persons should sue them personally and get as much from them as possible.
Tell me how you can do that
@@markholt2160 learn the law
I have an iron security door on my front door..I have spoken to the scum through that
@@markholt2160 make a county court claim. Pay the fee, and get ready with your evidence.
I intend to take the foi officer, finance officer, and the ceo of the council....just waiting for the right time...
Also intend to get all my tax paid back since the start. Plus interest...
Excellent talk lads. The spirit of the law must be adhered to, not just the letter. If we do not benefit from council tax, I see no reason to pay it.
@@peterholmes5217 We tried this line before. Council tax is not going on those things. It doesn't even go on emergency services. It goes to paying off the interest on the credit card of companies outsourced to do those jobs and more besides. Next year's hike is going to be a shock.
@@peterholmes5217 ctax has nothing to do with using any roads because car tax ( previously known as road tax ) is a different tax .
@@peterholmes5217 Submit a FOI request listing the items your money has been spent on.
@@Denis.Collins The cost is arbitrary and derived from the average disposable income, depending on the area and its designated band letter. So far councils have been restricted to increasing the demand no more than 5% per annum, but the cabinet are looking to tinker with that.
car tax for that and we also pay income tax..tax after tax after tax. Go away with your dumb, pathetic drivel@@peterholmes5217
Is the shingles jab the NHS are promoting simply a re-branding of the clot shot?
So is flu probably
they got caught doing that with the flu jab@@catherineedwards8859
@@missandry5178 🤔
@@catherineedwards8859 In my surgery they won't give you the flu jab without the coof jab, they've caught on that people don't want the coof jab but the elderly swear by the flu shot every year so they're forced to get the coof shot.
I've had chicken pox so have the virus remaining in my body from childhood, it never goes away. I therefore have an inbuilt immunity to shingles, it's the same virus. If I have the shingles shot I can almost guarantee it will trigger an episode of shingles. No-one in their right mind should have any of these jabs imo.
We have done the tv rape tax that’s dead & buried & now time to do the council tax
Thank you Gavin and Richard, sterling work.
Sterling grifting....you twit!!
The problem is Richard that as awake as I am... I have a wife and a child.. my child is 3 and in nursery and my wife and I both have jobs...
That's hard going to keep everything running smoothly.. its enough when something comes along like the car needs repair or something else that needs immediate attention.... I find I don't have time to fight with my local council over council tax/ read there snotty letters/ respond/ deal with bailiffs/ court hearings..... I simply don't have the time or the energy ro deal with these additional issues ... for me it's easier just to pay and not have the worry i have however successfully canceled the tv licence and removed there emplied right of access to my house which they have acknowledged and sent me a letter of acknowledgement and havent bothered me for over 3 years no visits/ no snotty letters nothing.... but I'm watching you Richard and when u find a pain free way not to pay this tax I will respond accordingly... keep up the good work and happy new year to you and the lovely Julie
Invest some time into learning your rights. Then apply it.....and prepare to to be amazed at your new perception of our society.
Write a letter with all the grounds of challenge, dispute and question, Richard Vobes, and guests provide public awareness of. Then you don't need to do anything else. And your financial standing will improve. Why be duped into paying the establishments double charges - i.e. bills etc already paid from your birth certificate trust fund. Take heed of Sovereign Empowerment: 'You are already debt free'.
What a very informative young man! Refreshing to see these days! Keep up the good work Mr.V!!
I'm excited too... things are crumbling all around the world.. it needs to happen in order for the people to rebuild a better new and fairer system 😊😊
It's a case of "look what we designed earlier, ready to roll out for your convenience...and you'll be happy"
I’m still here ..3 years…not paid.!?
You’re in dept then
@@phillipcarter8045 no such thing as debt..unless you have broken a contract..
@@phillipcarter8045the whole monetary sysyen is based on debt it’s why they need everyone to have credit cards - no debt no money. It’s backed by nothing.
Challenging them costs them time and money, and when enough people do it, their scam will be over. Challenge everything!
Good video. This information is over 14 years old as there were people doing this almost 2 decades who have been forgotten. It's great to see this is near mainstream now. Every individual enforcing this bollocks are individually liable for prosecution. Remember and study
@@50somethinglawyerWith the word legal id say learn law😂😂😂
@@50somethinglawyer
Brigade 77 or AI….
No they aren't responsible , where do you get this half baked nonsense from ? It's as daft as that silly person on the video
I know, first hand, someone, who was over 70 years of age, who was in prison for REFUSING TO PAY COUNCIL TAX, I wouldn't believe this until a prison officer, ( SCREW ) confirmed this, I felt disgusted that this could happen to an old guy, along with other CONS !
The poor chap probably made some mistakes & accidentally accepted liability. If it happened today, there’d be people to support him.
@@jobloggs7400 it was some years ago but, totally true as, I'm admitting I was in prison and, this one thing has stayed in my memory, about prison, for such a long time.
Who? For the common people? YOU need to check what this guy charges for his support. Too much for most of us on here ..@@jobloggs7400
His first mistake was refusing. It's the golden rule that you never refuse anything and accept everything, on condition that those making the claim can provide evidence of said claim. Then it's much harder to lose, as seen in the recent Council Tax case.
Why are people going to court? Never go to court unless a police officer arrests you and takes you to court. You cannot be arrested for a civil dispute
The gatekeeper Brother BBB will be uploading his rebuttals any minute now.Must keep his Lodge happy
Ahhh yes, the Corperate Shill. This will have his wig spinning.
Is there anything he can rebut? Without exposing the false witness, and misrepresentation of fact. The unenforceability of Council tax, which is subject of an earlier RV presentation, remains unchallenged. Because there is scientific fact and truth in conclusive evidence; to show that is the case...
It must be painful knowing you're on the wrong team... Let's face it, he's slowly waking up, similar to the way Dr. John Campbell did. I hope BBB makes a public turnaround.
Only wizards and warlocks wear capes.
@@MHLivestreams Same problem as old Etonians indoctrinated into the belief they are ideal leaders of the Hoi Polloi; and to follow the establishment's dogmas and ideology; from an early age. When they are forced to face up to the fact they are not; and the dogma and ideology is defective; they face living with the fact that everything they stood for; and what made them has been a total mistake. And a waste of the existence.
The fraud is incredible..
Legislation in itself is the problem. It's rife with contradictory statements, claims, assertions, etc. It needs to go, all of it.
Just ignore it all.
For those of us who can sustain ourselves, stop operating as a legal person, separate yourself and be recognised as a living entity. I made declaration to HM the Queen, and my local M.P. and only operate privately now, it's been a struggle dealing with some of these idiotic state employees, but it's ended well for me, it's been recognised that I am merely a man, and that legislation does not apply to me as i am not operating legally. (Not operating in commerce)
Legislation is just commercial business administration code, and nothing else.
Spot on yet uneducated barristers😂 nah I'm joking he knows the system an all this law an legislation
He's looking after his an the bar's equity and I'm sure gaining profit from justice is unlawful
What was this declaration you made please?
@@thepeacefulmumma7055 mine was easier than most, as I could prove fraudulence, which instantly voids the contract. (Birth certificate) which means the crown has no claim of right over me. I stated that the Queen, Crown, British Government, European Union have no claim. They've tried a couple of times and failed. All they're doing is creating liability for themselves whenever they attempt it.
@@MHLivestreams That is fascinating. Please tell me how you proved the fraud?
@@thepeacefulmumma7055 i would prefer not to divulge that as it's personal, however, there are several angles you can adopt. One would be that nobody can claim the right over anyone, considering we were all born equal, etc.
When all said and done who pays for the stress, sleepless nights and anxiety it causes to people and families who do not know their rights ?
I've been watching about this best part of a yr. And have written down the legislation against the council tax and I'm always learning so thank u Richard and guest
And bankrupt councils can't demand any monies from you!
Thank you for this video, i t gives me more faith we will soon turn the tide on the corrupt system's, we will build a new system that is for the people and not for corporations, AMEN 🙏🙏❤❤
Why do believe this shite....??
@@VeruccaAssulte It is easy to grasp if you have more than one brain cell. 🤡
I went on a committal hearing in 1992 for non payment of the poll tax .the magistrate advices me to come to an arrangement with my local council to pay it off .in other words he found me not guilty .the reason why I had been in hospital and had a fusion of 3 joints in my foot. Thst was one of the reasons he found me not guilty .the other reason is if you had no income like students
What if religion has divided humans so much, using politics/law that we’ve become so
confused/frightened that we just stay asleep and live the life of the unfree and we don’t
even know it⁉️Thank you for this site.👏🏻🌸
It's if you REFUSED TO PAY THE COUNCIL TAX, not if you can't pay the tax you would, could, be IMPRISONED.
A 64 year old man went to court for non payment and he invoked the ancient rights to trial by combat against the council and he won by default 😂😂😂
Yes, you have the right to hold anyone personally liable and meet them in a dual.
😂😂😂😂
👏 he effectively forced them to apply lawful jurisdiction, rather than legal.
@@JohnofthefamilySmithGod you're so punchable
I love the idea of a duel. When 2 men disagree so fundamentally on something and exhaust every other resolution that they both agree to fight and possibly die over the issue. No big circus, just a quiet out of the way gunshot or 2 in a field and then its over and everyone goes home satisfied and everyone moves forward.@@JohnofthefamilySmith
Love when you guys Collab thanks for your news an updates always a pleasure to watch
Recently in the US the supreme court made a decision that the UCC 1 has a monetary value. It's game changing and the walls are coming down
Nice! Logic filters through occasionally. I wonder if Britain will have a reveal regarding the national insurance number/birth certificate number? We'll have to wait and see.
Yes you can, my partner spent 14 days in prison for non payment.
Because he knew nothing lol
Because he had already agreed to pay it! Sad though!
What did he owe? A 2 week prison experience sounds like a laugh actually
happy holiday
That is what happens when you get involved with secret societies like Freemasonry and Bar.
We should all refuse they cant take us all evreyone cancel your direct debit n lock your doors
Don't refuse straight out ask them to prove obligation
@@anti-stupid-not--vax9629 that's right. Remain honourable for as long as possible, wear them out.
@@anti-stupid-not--vax9629 or refuse too contract with them because many are bankrupt anyway
Ignorance of the law is no excuse
You carry on in the matrix good zombie!
@@ApnaChoud wtf! You're the tax paying NPC pal I'm well off the grid 🤣🤣🤣
@@ckarodipolicethepolice2301 Ok Einstein firstly tax paying and NPC dumb sh1t! You know the saying about assumption being. You'll know the rest but with that IQ I guess not? Off the grid if I were you I'd apply for PIP because your obviously mentally handicapped!
You can only potentially end up in prison for refusing to pay CT. You can't go to prison for with holding payment subject to getting answers and evidence to questions and queries of dispute etc.
Nonsense.
why ? give some substance in your comment@@steve-hart
That’s very true , just need to keep asking them to provide information that they haven’t got.
I cannot say that I agree with having Gavin on again. My experience with sovereign empowerment was handing over several hundred pounds in ‘donations’ for a so say guaranteed win which NEVER happened, period. Bailiffs kept coming and in the end a registered one turned up and clamped the car on the driveway and left a notice for me to cough up two grand. The advice I got from sovereign empowerment was to ignore the written notice I received several weeks prior to their visit. Gavin has also FAILED to prove he does NOT pay council tax himself….I am still fuming with sovereign empowerment as I did not get what was promised. And apparently it was ‘my choice’, yes my choice to pay someone that gave bad advice that I cant get a refund from! Just how many visits can you tolerate to your home from Bristow & Sutor??? I have spoken with others who went further than me and caved in after 7 visits from Bristow & Sutor. Make of it what you will, Gavin talks the talk but not so sure he walks the walk. Be warned.
I have had several bailiffs visits and arest warrants, mostly Marsdens,when you stand your ground as a living man and remove all implied right of access they fold and go away,it's not for the faint hearted I also appealed charge and conviction in magistrates court on camera based charges,I won my appeal in crown court and payed no fines or bailiffs fees
I agree
Arrest warrant for what? A civil matter??@@colinfletcher5023
Yes he's definitely a masonic shill,nasty pieces of work,I don't know why Richard can't see it,sickly looking character.
Same goes for that steve knight and "debtless" t***s , what a bunch of bloody crooks.
warrant
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It's alright saying all this but ultimately they can force you to sell the property to recover costs or they can force landlord to pay if you are renting which obviously puts you in a bad situation.
No they cannot do any of those things at all... That is completely false. Its another fear tactic.
Hi Richard, any chance you could find someone to address these things for Scotland too? I don't know quite how much it changes up here. I moved here from England 5 years ago and wonder about Scottish rights. 🙏
I did for the poll tax back in 1990.
Same here, brother.
There still exists a level of ignorance to this day. What do you think the ignorance level in 1990 was, it was far easier for them then. But now we have so many lines if connected communication.
Here is an example, the TV license. Nobody I know even pays that anymore but just go and take a look at the 80s advert for TV license and you will see exactly what they were able to get away with in terms of deceiving the public through fear.
@@MHLivestreams Heroes ❤
@@ClaireGarrard thanks, not sure if it's heroic, but remember being upset because of the baby I had at home in 1993, so it wasn't nice. Had councillor from the local council take the situation on, she was disgusted how bailiffs used violence against me, that's why I defended myself, and ended up in prison with a criminal record. The whole thing was wrong, being punished for defending yourself against 2 large bullies.
It is not for the local population to fund the functions of Local Government, it appears that our councils are actually corporate entities, registered on Dun & Bradstreet, masquerading as municipal public services! Interesting time hey! Reality and awakening my friends ;-)x
And when you get to grips with that its easy!! #bebrave!!!
I was sent one of these summons.I rang the aledged court where the case was to be held.I asked if my name was on the list,which it was.I was told in a snooty manner that I needed to contact the council if I was intent on attending court.It was stressed that it was up to the council body,representative and not the court.
There was no name on the fake summons either.I decided not to go as I thought if I went,I was accepting liability to their charge.
The case didn't go ahead in the end but is supposed to be being rearranged,just a waiting game.
The benefit of this is that I am now more versed and know what to do if bailiffs do turn up.
No. But you can go to prison for not paying the FINES for not paying your council tax. I was sentenced to 14 days in Norwich prison for refusing to pay in the 90's.
That’s an important distinction.
How much did you owe?
So you did not know back then what you know now?
What fines? You don’t get fined for not paying they just add some dodgy costs on to the bill.
@@thepeacefulmumma7055 But Stephen is talking about what happened to him back in the 90’s….if his fine was from before the courts lost their powers and became commercial entities, back then they could come after people for the fines themselves, not the actual tax itself. I suspect there’s been far more going on behind the state facade than we realise….right now no one is in charge!
Is it illegal or not. If it is then sending u to jail on an illegal act is surely illegal in itself.
These corrupt system administrator types are filthy corrupt individuals, groupthink elitist mindset, but whittles down to them being narcissistic/ psychopathic. Best avoid them all.
YES. I knew someone who got sentenced . Legal or Illegal he got put away.
Learn your rights.
They are getting away with it because most of us are ignorant of our fundamental rights.
To answer the question...yes, I've been in there with them. Was 20 odd years ago but I'd guess it's still the same. They had to serve every day of it too, no 1/2 sentence or going home on tag.
I was sent to prison in 1997 for non payment of council tax £630... sentenced to 28 days, usually a sentence like that you only serve half of it, but because it was a civil offence I had to serve the full 28 days.. I couldn't pay it because I was on benefits.. after my release a solicitor who deals with these things wrote to me and said it should never have happened
Solicitors are the worst scroungers mostly.. He was not there for you when you needed support though :-/
I would do 28 days for not paying..
You don't pay council tax if you are on benefits
@campervan-john I was previously working, I was made unemployed due to ill health, I didn't even go to court, these two guys who were not police knocked my door and said I must get in their car immediately or further action would be taken. I was gullible and didn't question it and they took me straight to prison. I'm not making this up John I got no reason to
There is one thing stronger than the whole worlds military combined, and that thing is an idea whose time has come.
You can only go to prison if you sign/consent to their paperwork
Nonsense .
@@normanpearson8753 it's fact ya nonce
I was under the impression that the debt collector had to buy the debt, which they would get at a reduced cost and then try and recover the original amount from the debtor. So if they bought the debt, the debt to the original claimant, is in fact paid off.
Council tax bailiffs work on behalf of the council's
Debt collection and enforcement are two different sides of the same coin. But the council do not sell the debt, they assign it and the agent collecting puts their fee onto the debtor.
@@wobla9699 yes that's right, my council use rossendales, I've had em all over me a few years ago.
With regard to identifying judge's signatures. I spent many years pressing the court to identify the judge's name who signed an alleged liability order which was a copy from the block list. The court replied claiming they could not identify the signature, and the claimed judges name in print did not exist. Hence the difficulty in identifying the individuals. Reason there is a list of judges and if their name was printed one could confirm they were not on the list. While I could never prove it the court not recognising the signatures suggested the signatures were council employees claiming to be acting as a judge. Alternatively they were a real judge being paid by the court to hold the hearings (outside official capacity) on behalf of the council. Either way the document was unlawful and the signee would be personally liable if they could be identified. Both block lisings had over 1000 names each supposedly heard same day.
Also we attended a court liability hearing and enquired with court staff about the details and were told we would have to ask the council. confirming the "court hearings" were under total control of the council. I remind everyone that it is unlawful for a council to act in a judicial role. But you try telling the court. Reason you will get nowhere is because the councils & courts are working together. Reference Bribget Prentice MOJ Council Tax enforcement in magistrates courts 26/11/2016 where she stated in parliament "In particular HMCS has
identified examples of fees not being charged to local authorities for issuing proceedings and some examples of a failure at Salford magistrates’ court to enter the results of applications for liability orders on the court register. More seriously two magistrates’ courts, Rochdale and Salford permitted the local authorities to issue summonses requiring attendance at court without the authorisation of the court." Stating "This was a clear procedural failing and was immediately stopped" and concluded by claiming "The issues identified in Rochdale and Salford have been fully investigated and I am satisfied that correct procedures are now in place. A national check was carried out that revealed no similar practices and all courts have been reminded of the importance of following the correct procedures."
We know while Mrs Prentice may have honestly been under the impression her statement was true. We even today see evidence of these abuse. Proving they never stopped and the authorities/parliament are fully aware this is happened despite being unlawful. They all should be locked up. But so many are complicit that it would take a revolution and total reorganisation (clear out) of this countries political & legal systems. Proving everything in this country has been corrupted and the reason the government want to trash human rights.
Human rights are given and can be taken 😂
Why not as a man or woman not a corporation use your unalienable rights as every individual has and cannot be taken
People power is starting to kick in gavin it’s time we rise from the ground
Thank you both, more excellent information & knowledge 👏 👍 😁
Very interesting discussion, thank you for covering this subject.
As i stopped paying my council tax and dont own a property they aren't able to place a charge on the property. Surely eventually they will have no choice but to put me in jail ?
They can’t for a civil matter and we no longer have debtors prisons. Plus did you listen to all of this? It’s explained why you won’t go to prison.
I’d prefer not to fight them on their ‘turf’; I’d turn up in ‘court’ and make sure that they know that I do not stand under their jurisdiction. That makes it impossible for them to proceed.
To be brutally honest with you mate, if you turn up to their court, you have accepted the invitation to represent the company they are making a claim against, because no court will ever summons you without your surname being written in all capital letters, just as it is on the birth certificate. They can only deal with that company, and if you tried arguing about jurisdictions etc, they will most likely say they can't hear you and carry on regardless. It's a complete scam i know, but that's how their system works.
@@Chlav-144 Spot on. That's why every birth certificate will have your name as two separate entities clearly stated. It's which one you choose will decide your fate.
Yes , of course it does.....
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@@ukinvasion2012 wrong - turning up in their ‘court’ is not consent
Excellent video.
No doubt they'll be a counter video by corporate legal experts now 😂
As sure as there will be daylight tomorrow lol. They know the system is collapsing at an alarming rate and you can see it in their videos. Although i'm sure they are all well off, so i don't think they will be badly off when it all ends.
@@ukinvasion2012 The problem is as well as the government being corporate its ran by outside influences too, WHO and WEF so they must be lacking their lips with all the power that will trickle down, to their detriment of course, we just need to win small battles and bring back more a more common law based system which is hanging on by a thread.
@@Rapid_GT There only ever has been common law in reality, even the legal system HAVE to apply it when it's real crime, ie murder, robbery, rape etc. It's just that there has been two systems running side by side for hundreds of years. One the common law, ie injury harm or loss, then the corporate law, ie the legal system, which would say you can't smoke a spliff, or you can't drink alcohol after a certain time, or you must obey this and that nonsense. But those rules only apply to your corporate name, ie, a person.
@@ukinvasion2012 I think common law is only used to appease, but means nothing in reality, like the so called King taking his oath! It meant nothing and he remains WEF
Has Gavin had a new set of Railings from Tirkey? lol
Mr Vobes your Guest is in error @ 24.38 where He states UK doesn't have a Codified Constitution ,, WE DO.. Omitting it from the Treaty of Nice 2000 got QE II Deposed 14 th March 2001, The Heretical Press , British Site, 5 items down,,, Petition to the Queen Mentions Her Knowingly having it omitted ...then @ 26.48 He quotes The Bill of Rights Omitting the Scots Claim of Rights which were both Amalgamated in the Constitution @ the Creation of the United Kingdom 1688/89 Ratified 1707, Claim of Rights is mentioned in the preservation of The Presbyterian Faith 1706 it was the Scots Claim , that gave English People Sovereignty, as the Concept of The People being Sovereign was an Alien Concept to the English Nobles.
Rogue politicians involved in treason invented the story.
Not according to our friend the ECHR .
Prohibition of imprisonment for debt (Article 1)
"No-one shall be deprived of his liberty merely on the ground of inability to fulfil a contractual obligation".
Interesting, but seems to be consistent with the ruling that it's for when one REFUSES to pay
I sat in pentenville prison for 7 days because I refused to pay a £20 fine.
At least you get a bed,fed and shower.. I would do that rather than pay a corp
@@wecandothiswarriors I did lose a weeks pay, but never paid the fine!And off course a week off my life I’ll never get back.
What was the fine for?
@@wobla9699 no crash helmet!
@@anthonyrevell6903 good on ya lad although a crash helmet will protect you so you possibly took that a bit far 😉
when you aproch the bar in the court room it is already the first wrong step of acknowledgment
Exactly don't step on the ship
Being in court is the first step , butvyou can't avoid it .
sry i meant to say dont step over the bar, just eneter the court maybe and shout from the door@@anti-stupid-not--vax9629
I ended up in court for my tenants not paying council tax on bedsits I owned, tenants were supposed to pay me and I pass it on, I was deemed as the responsible person, I had to find a large amount of money in 3 mths to avoid jail, so yes you can.
How much money and how long in jail? It might have been worth the time inside lol
@@ohnoitisnt you still owe it when you come out, it was 6k in about 1995 so a fair amount then, trial was adjourned for 3 mths to give me time, proper court, I only didn't get sent down because my own council tax was paid and obviously I didn't live at the other properties
I personally would have done the time in the clink. Three square meals a day, free bed and board, lots of gym. Poor man's health farm really!
And being bummed. Lucky you lol?@@klawlor3659
@@klawlor3659 yes mate, I bet you would.
If a council goes bust, do we still have to pay council tax?
Off course they need the money
ive asked blackbelt barrister the same question and never had a responce
@@keegan2979i've listened to a couple of subjects with who your on about and i personally think he's on the other side, i could be wrong but i don't trust him.
The council doesn't go bust. It effectively gets put into special measures, only allowed to provide essential services.
This is Gavin from sovereign Empowerment, I’ve been following him for years, he is one of the nicest people you could meet and has helped me out through all the crap from the Council Tax and Utilities. You can make an appointment to speak to him in person on the Sovereign Empowerment pag, if you’re struggling with Council tax and Utilities I would strongly recommend speaking to him, I did and it has helped me no end, he really is a great guy
Richard ..hugely helpful BUT he needs to help with a step by step guide to how to rebuke the tax bill as they are all unlawful
I really struggle to grasp the ‘complications’ with the Poll Tax, Community Charge or Council Tax. A Politician from Glasgow with pretty decent legal knowledge (graduated in Law) was sent to prison, it’s a high profile well known case, he wasn’t jailed for non-payment but because he was militant and attended demonstrations against warrant sales to make it difficult for councils to recoup funds they banned him from attending these events and it spiralled out of control from there…yeah I know he eventually got locked up for ‘perjury’ but the establishment created a mechanism/obstacles to make it difficult for him and his legal pedigree is pretty good…it’s not a simple problem…seems deliberately complicated and confusing..! 😇
There's no lawful debt, and therefore no lawful obligation to give them any of your money and if you learn enough to stand on your rights and act with "clean hands" in "good faith", you're deserving of damages if they harass you (i.e. you should take them to court, rather than the other way round).
@@minesadab i agree that if you are switched on and can access decent advice/support then you will probably manage to keep the wolves from your door…I’m on state benefits, disability benefits…I could probably manage to find and sustain some kind of employment just to boost my self esteem but the charges the council in Glasgow are currently asking if I return to work completely destroy any motivation or enthusiasm to even explore that option…I would struggle to be able to afford the rent I’m being asked to pay, the Council Tax, Fuel Costs, etc…I mean if the Current Prime Minister wants to send out propaganda about mathematics and encouraging the population to increase their knowledge then it will only take a moment of his time to realise it would take much more than a Magician to make my situation change…I’d really need to be looking at becoming a Miracle Worker lol…if anyone’s interested in actual facts, truth and honesty…not just presenting nonsense like our members of parliament then please feel free to forward this thread…I am traceable and can be found…I don’t hide from the Devil..!😇
Yes you can. I had a mate who spent over a month inside for it. The magistrate was stunned when my pal told them that was his preferred punishment. He went in for two reasons, one to wipe the debt clean and the other was because he wanted a little holiday. This fella is no stranger to a bit of naughty naughty and came out with a couple of new mates and imparted some common sense into a few of the dodgy younger lads.
How much did he owe? Sounds like a decent deal and is also my preferred option. If youre a labourer earning 100 quid a day and live alone, you are economically incentivised to become a criminal for a cheaper easier life
@@ohnoitisnt he was working cash in hand for a tradesmen who was messing with the wages at the time. The debt was barely a couple of thousand quid and he spent about five weeks at her majesty's pleasure. He can handle himself, I've seen it with my own eyes, he went to court with a bag full of snacks, biscuits, , books, tobacco, tea bags and sugar, a lump of dope and a few other tradeable items. They fed and watered him, gave him access to the gym and library. Said he was going to miss it when he got home. The system has made it easy street and I totally understand why he did it.
@@billmarsh1971 That sounds alright actually. Very comparable with a persons monthly earnings. Could make it a yearly holiday, and i bet youd learn a lot and make some useful friends on the inside... Thanks for the reply
I did time 20 years ago. It wasn't a deterrent (other than missing the freedom to wander about and the obvious lack of gf) but quite honestly it was like a poor man's health farm! Learnt a trade (NVQ Painting and Decorating), went down the gym every day. Had a decent selection of books down the library, and got fed three meals a day. Came out of there like Conor McGregor! Lean, toned and quite honestly a lot bloody healthier than when I went in.
I'd be very happy to do the time again as opposed to paying the shite council tax.
You still owe it when you come out, plus the councils legal fees.
I've got so much disonesty from my council I've been fighting them for over 13 years and it's hard but thank you this has helped me stay strong take care all
They keep raising it every year in next few decades will have to be scrapped or reduced otherwise the courts will have a nightmare of a time with the amount of people unable to pay
You don't have to pay council tax if your property has a prayer room . Property owned by Muslims are very aware of this .
Interesting ✨
@@HappyHawthorn and true
I think this only applies to the Muslim faith
It's any faith. Your home is a place of worship.
You can apply for your home being opened as a church of prayer..
How much council tax is Gavin in arrears? Answer NIL.
All talk.
No man has any arrears it's the councils debt unless you want to act as the debtor 🤐
@@Chlav-144 consent was given from your mom an dad by getting you registered FACT
Declaring you dead an property of government
I think we're all aware of that .
Many more thanks to you both..again ! :-)
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION TO YOUR COUNCIL; 1 ) DOSE THE COUNCIL HAVE STAKEHOLDER'S, YES OR NO. 2 ) IF YES PLEASE PROVIDE ALL THE FULL NAME'S & ADDRESSES. 3 ) IS THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATING A TRUST, YES OR NO. 3 ) IF YES PLEASE PROVIDE THE NAME OF THE GRANTOR MALE OR FEMALE, FULL NAME & ADDRESS.
Good stuff @ Richard bro🙏 I bet the black belt puff barrister won’t like this video & he will probably try to plss on your parade again 😁 keep up the good work rich & stay blessed 👍😎🙏
I know right he won't be making his money 😂🤣👍
Yes because he’s an actual trained Barrister, not a barrack room lawyer
@@johnholkham2420 no he's a prostitute for the establishment
@@johnholkham2420doesn't mean he's not crooked as he's part of the system
Peace keepers Marc and Brian are onto this is a big way . The more information and knowledge is key. Armour up ...and win
Council's withdraw from the battlefield, when they use their legislation acts laws etc against them. They come into court like lions, and leave like lambs.
I thought that the government has said that bailiffs and enforcement officers can’t come to your home, and if they do you can find them. Thanks for a great interview. ❤
You don't have to let them in, but once they've been in they can continue to gain peaceable access, they can walk thru an open door, best thing is to arrange a payment plan and stick to it, they just want the money, easier said than done tho, especially with todays figures, don't have anything outside of value and park your car away, but ultimately you'll have to pay, they'll never leave you alone, I had them calling on a bi weekly basis.
Look up novation order 👍
loved this. thanks for explaining so well.
How long ago did you stop paying, and what has happened since? It would be interesting to hear of the experience.
2 years for me and nothing has happened. I get texts and emails only from an alleged debt collector which I ignore.
@@thepeacefulmumma7055I’ve had 2 visits from officers who I didn’t answer the door to. The last one posted a letter saying pay or we will take the car on your drive ( which isn’t in my name) So do I carry on ignoring them? Will they turn up with police to try to seize goods? Or should I contact the council asking for proof of the liability order which doesn’t exist?
@@TruthTeller0104 they can’t take a car that isn’t in your name. You’ll have to decide your own path, everyone’s is different and all the councils act differently. Where is your council?
Whether we like it or not, as a last resort, yes you can go to prison for non payment of Council Tax, but they'll attempt every other means of enforcement first. You'll often end up with an attachments to earnings order which most employers will comply with or it will be automatically taken from your benefits. If you are for instance self employed and you manage to keep the bailiffs from seizing enough goods you stand a chance of resisting to the stage where a court may see no alternative other than prison after trying everything else with repeated warnings.
Nonsense
No because it's a civil matter
Absolutely, somebody needs to watch again me thinks
@@gallyman100 Strong counterargument lol
If you are employed you get an attachment of earnings. If youre limited youll get a winding up order.
The self employed will get a visit to the house address, but you dont have to let them in, so youll go to court and end up in prison (for a number of weeks, if any of the other commenters stories are anything to go by)
I've been withholding for 4 years what bit don't you get ? They can't enforce without the correct paperwork from rhe court
thank you so much Richard and Gavin
Msny of the issues I have eith Council Tax is because I have been far to ill to work. U der the Equality Act they were asked to make a reasonable adjustment and not penalise me fir being ill and disabled. The blatantly refused and continued to harass me.
I am sick of being screened by them, bullied by them and harassed by them.
I think people are sick of being screwed by them.
Great video and great topic. The system will never be fair because there will always be entitled people who want everything for nothing and expect everyone else to pay for it. I say everyone should rebel and leave the system by refusing benefits and Hospital care etc, viva the revolution, who's behind me. Just don't drive on the roads in a dangerous conveyance uninsured and cause harm. Problem solved.
Bloody hell this shit is relentless
Brilliant podcast Thankyou so much to both of you
Depends if you contact consent or converse with them.. Xx
The Guy Knows his stuff but if you ever have paid council tax you have entered into a contract that there is no way to null and void due to your birth cert. They got you by the balls.
Cabbage by name.....?
No. You cancel the contract.
Know Your Rights.
Council tax is a 12 month contract divided into 10 monthly payments, however it is not a contract because a contract is a legal agreement either verbal or written and Accepted by both parties without collusion or misrepresentation.
Yes if you refuse to pay max 1 month but ask them to prove under whose authority do I have to pay if they prove that you will pay
It's a legal tax.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Who cares about legal?
So obviously you should pay it. Yes. Good boy.@@StudentDad-mc3pu
@@JohnofthefamilySmith People who have bailifs turning up at their door and complain as if this is some intrusion on their personal freedom, when, in fact, they are simply law breakers.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Bailiffs are law breakers. You know nothing about law.
Listening, am I assuming incorrectly. In 1066 the reason for it was to calculate revenue for the king/Queen, so the state took over. and the state hands back a proportion to the councils.
So many videos now Richard says slightly conflicting statements about what we can and cannot do ( like for instance they no longer need a wetted signature. I think we need another video update ❤🙏🏼
Well I haven't paid it in 11 years, I'm not in prison,in fact I've never had a problem. You just get letters which I just tear up. Used to get the odd court summons which is just an invite, an invite I never took.
Do you own the house you live in?
Yes, have they placed charges against your property?
@@minesadab I rent, no problems.
@@MUSIC4TRUTH.... Power to you. Plan B if I can't successfully fight this crap in court is to sell my house, buy bitcoin with the money and rent for the rest of my life. They can't touch 12 words stored in my head.
Not telling porkies? The CT will be in your rent
Why not go into court, bind to your debtor's name and plead guilty and that you are here to pay the claimant the due debts? The point is you want to see the corporate claimant in the flesh, you don't want to pay a proxy, a representative, the court, or a stranger. Offer to meet the claimant, in this case, the council in the flesh to hand over the payment in full at the office of the solicitor at an agreed date and time.
If he or she doesn't turn up, which we know they can't as the claimant is a corporation, a fictional entity.
The claimant cannot even come back with a counteroffer because you offered to pay in full.
Debt just magically vanishes.
Regards
That's rubbish, when I went to court I was facing the councils solicitor.
@roystonvehicles9129 In court you have to stand your ground. You have to stand up and be brave. You are, making a truthful statement and offer, an offer they can not refuse. Every person has the right to meet their accuser and or claimant.
Did you stand up and force the matter? I bet you didn't. The opposition attorney is not the claimant, but a representative. You need to make it absolutely clear you are in court to make payment to the claimant or else there cannot be any surety granted from your estate. Remember, a claimant has to be a person not a person in corporate.
@@tobychenderson bet you've not been there bud? Just to enlighten you they opened with we are here to jail you today, I stated my case, they adjourned for a few mins, gave me 3 mths to find the money or I'd be re arrested and appear before them again, that's how it went.
@@tobychenderson please note it's not county court you appear in but proper court, with a proper bench.
@roystonvehicles9129 it's a military court under the hood. You are guilty when you answered to your debtor's name. You should have signed in as the attorney of record in name only on the court's registry. And or signed the ruling as charged as "for" + your debtor's name.
These fu*****s will do anything and everything to make sure are the debtor. They need you to be their underwriter for the securities they created to make you appear. No surety, no underwriter, and that goes for any jail time. The Judge/ administrator becomes the debtor if you are not the debtor. They will threaten you in every way. Stand your ground.
the main problem is it is a TAX so legally no matter how you argue you WILL pay it one way or other , it is legalised stealing , have you given your permission about any TAX ? it should be no taxation without representation and voting is NOT representation
It may be legal, but is it lawful - that's the question. What contracts have you entered? Certainly not one with the council.
Fantastic, I agree with Gavin 100% - ITS OVER!!!!!!
Ignore the cowards and shills who denigrate this information.
My county council has declared bankruptcy, but will they still want their demand payments.
A bankrupt corporation has to cease trading immediately ?
They are known to put out fake stories to keep the sheep scared.
@@stephenboyd4934local authorities are a special class of corporation. Rather than cease trading, they plod on but only provide essential services
@@JohnofthefamilySmithif you look at the stories the usual codes are there eg 33
Which tells you it's fishy....engineered....built
@@icouldbewrongicouldberight Yes, it is hidden in plain sight.