I'm on my second TTG and going with my usual 12.5 SBA4 pistol with a 1-6x LVPO. I'm just there for the "free" t-shirt. I thought about going suppressed this year but my Sandman S is 1.2lb of unnecessary coolness. I may change my mind and regret it, but I'll still get the t-shirt.
Jersey Guy hit it - I find that especially when bracing into the sling, keeping my thumb on the right side allows a straighter pull for more precise shots. If I need to manage recoil with faster follow-up shots, I stay out of the sling & keep a traditional hold on the grip.
Average pistol targets are 3" shapes at 10-12 yards. It's pretty typical to see rifle paper at 50-75yds, but if the host range has the capabilities they'll push you 3-400 yards for a couple stages. 2023 Nationals saw some engagements close to 700 yards. The 1-10 is still highly preferred.
I had crafted up something using welder's fabric & was able to get a full wrap around the suppressor, even under the handguard with no contact. It worked well in training, stayed in place and reduced mirage quite a bit. It would inevitably work itself off when dealing with getting out of sled straps & there was a time or two of getting muzzle stamped in the calf with the rifle slung while kneeling. There are plenty of guys that compete suppressed and seem to have no issues, just ended up not being for me. I do still enjoy this build & will be topping it with a UH1 for around the house. It probably needs a light too while I'm at it.
This just came down to having enough clearance on the handguard to place my sling qd mount where I am used to it. The adjustable gas block at mid-length interfered with it.
@@judahparker9684 just get used to your holds in whatever optic you're using. Strelok is great for this once you validate the data. This 10.5 build was very capable out to those distances with the right ammo.
Great video. Favorite caliber? >223 or 5.56? Also, when looking for handrails. looking for something lite and durable? Nothing more? Oh forgot to post **N00B**
Go with a 223 wylde chamber so you've got options. My preference is factory 223 ammo (69gr for these matches). I am a big fan of JP's M-lok hand guards, they are light weight & have a nice textured coating.
@@actiongunner Perfect, I have a few calibers to choose from and .223 wyld is my go to. Running a sig lpvo, and was curious about the handrail and such. Thank you.!
Some context was lost in brevity here. The initial intent of rifle 2 was to use the same spitfire, but with lpvo now being allowed in the same division it started making sense to take the magnified route. Short range steel targets have been replaced by smaller paper for scoring so it's nice to be able to see your hits and make corrections. Even with the lpvo, the rifle still comes in lighter than the first.
Ill be real with yall. All of your parts are backordered up to 6 months. With how nutty the world is getting. I dont see buying yalls parts an option in 6 months. Well probably be ass deep in bodies by then lol.
Anything in particular you're looking for? We might be able to point you towards a dealer that's in stock. We've been getting parts in for the last year, but in a lot of cases, we haven't had enough to get back in stock after filling backorders.
You should go the TTG with the gear you have, not the gear you wish you had. No one fails to finish the TTG because of 2.2lb of extra weight. Most people are happy with just finishing after doing their best. Gear weight is irrelevant if you're minimally fit enough.
I'm on my second TTG and going with my usual 12.5 SBA4 pistol with a 1-6x LVPO. I'm just there for the "free" t-shirt. I thought about going suppressed this year but my Sandman S is 1.2lb of unnecessary coolness. I may change my mind and regret it, but I'll still get the t-shirt.
Ive ran my sandman S on an 11.5 bcm in two tactical games now. Its definitely a trade off especially in the battles with long runs lol.
is that second gun even lighter than the first gun? with the glass and suppressor I feel like you might've even made it heavier
What flash hider are you running? I may have missed it in the video. Thx!
This is the 3 prong JPFH-556L
Hello from Wyoming! Any new insights since this video was posted? Thanks AATW!
I've been putting this rifle through its paces over the last 9 months and will have an update out soon!
@@shawnsixtwo I am very much looking forward to that update! Thanks!
any more vids on that 13.5 rifle coming up? hows it working out for you?
It's been working great so far, I plan to compete with it at GTI in a few weeks & will have a video out shortly after.
looking forward to it
Great vid! What the reasoning or technique behind right hand thumb on right side of receiver for some of your shots?
It helps with pulling the trigger
Straight back. Hence lowering your chances on pulling a shot.
Jersey Guy hit it - I find that especially when bracing into the sling, keeping my thumb on the right side allows a straighter pull for more precise shots. If I need to manage recoil with faster follow-up shots, I stay out of the sling & keep a traditional hold on the grip.
@@Jerzeyguy Where in Jeerz are you? Im up in the Summit area..!
@@BklynJames edision
@@Jerzeyguy Are you shooting at RTSP?
What are the average distances of the rifle and pistol targets at the tactical games? Did the 1x10 work well?
Average pistol targets are 3" shapes at 10-12 yards. It's pretty typical to see rifle paper at 50-75yds, but if the host range has the capabilities they'll push you 3-400 yards for a couple stages. 2023 Nationals saw some engagements close to 700 yards. The 1-10 is still highly preferred.
Which optic mount is on the final rifle?
Did you try something like a burnproofgear heat/rail wrap/rap? I would rock your 2nd build for in home defense.
I had crafted up something using welder's fabric & was able to get a full wrap around the suppressor, even under the handguard with no contact. It worked well in training, stayed in place and reduced mirage quite a bit. It would inevitably work itself off when dealing with getting out of sled straps & there was a time or two of getting muzzle stamped in the calf with the rifle slung while kneeling.
There are plenty of guys that compete suppressed and seem to have no issues, just ended up not being for me. I do still enjoy this build & will be topping it with a UH1 for around the house. It probably needs a light too while I'm at it.
@@shawnsixtwo right on. Good tip on the welders fabric. 🌈 The more you know.🤣
Why carbine length gas system on the 13.5 and not mid length?
This just came down to having enough clearance on the handguard to place my sling qd mount where I am used to it. The adjustable gas block at mid-length interfered with it.
@@shawnsixtwo thanks for the reply! Just curious.
What is the maximum engagement distance for most of these competitions?
400 is probably a safe maximum for this year, the amount of long range at an event depends on the host range capabilities.
@@shawnsixtwo thanks … My 10.5 in barrel might need a dope sheet to go along with it
@@judahparker9684 just get used to your holds in whatever optic you're using. Strelok is great for this once you validate the data. This 10.5 build was very capable out to those distances with the right ammo.
Great video. Favorite caliber? >223 or 5.56? Also, when looking for handrails. looking for something lite and durable? Nothing more? Oh forgot to post **N00B**
Go with a 223 wylde chamber so you've got options. My preference is factory 223 ammo (69gr for these matches). I am a big fan of JP's M-lok hand guards, they are light weight & have a nice textured coating.
@@actiongunner Perfect, I have a few calibers to choose from and .223 wyld is my go to. Running a sig lpvo, and was curious about the handrail and such. Thank you.!
Yeah, throw on a lpvo to lighten it up genius 👎
Some context was lost in brevity here. The initial intent of rifle 2 was to use the same spitfire, but with lpvo now being allowed in the same division it started making sense to take the magnified route. Short range steel targets have been replaced by smaller paper for scoring so it's nice to be able to see your hits and make corrections. Even with the lpvo, the rifle still comes in lighter than the first.
Ill be real with yall. All of your parts are backordered up to 6 months. With how nutty the world is getting. I dont see buying yalls parts an option in 6 months. Well probably be ass deep in bodies by then lol.
Anything in particular you're looking for? We might be able to point you towards a dealer that's in stock. We've been getting parts in for the last year, but in a lot of cases, we haven't had enough to get back in stock after filling backorders.
You should go the TTG with the gear you have, not the gear you wish you had. No one fails to finish the TTG because of 2.2lb of extra weight. Most people are happy with just finishing after doing their best. Gear weight is irrelevant if you're minimally fit enough.