I have a small business doing renovations. This guy is one of my to-go-to people for when I have some doubts. I like how in none of his videos he edits out his mistakes. You see his errors and if you don't think that in itself is knowledge, then you go ahead and screw up and learn the hard way yourself. Crown molding is tricky, so give the guy credit because the final result looks how it should.
Do you carry your own insurance? I’m a 25-year old that just created an LLC and have small projects but don’t know if should take the leap. Seems very pricey for now
I' ve been doing crown molding for about 35 years now, and the best way to cope is to pull down with the saw and keep it at about a 5 to 10 degrees going inwards. Also to fix the outside miter issues, and inside miters ,refrain from nailing the molding about two feet from the cuts. At this point you can move both sides up or down to create the perfect miter everytime.
@@matthewotis3594 Make the cut slightly longer than required by a few mm, then use the pressure created to create a tight joint, the total distance of displacement will hardly be noticeable along the entire length of the board. This works great for inside corners, outside corner pieces should be first installed to allow for this to be used, and the longer sections are best kept at perfect length. Its the main buttress that need to be slightly longer.
@@matthewotis3594 Could even put caulking on the ends instead of glue, then wipe it straight away, that glue would shrink anyway so not very helpful. You might not even need to come a second time, just have to caulk the long straights edges.
Excellent video. I like that you've shown the various cuts and angles and had good camera shots to show the specific details. What I like most is that you showed some of the issues I've experienced with walls out of square and small gaps. This video will help me with the crown molding project I'm starting this week. Thanks for the nice job. Very helpful.
I Really appreciate the extra time you take to explain and demonstrate. For those of us who have not yet attempted the jobs you demonstrate it gives one more confidence to experiment and atleast try a project. Lack of appropriate tools is the biggest issue for me. Thank you so much for all the great tips along the way too!
Thanks for ALL the info that you provide in this video and all your other videos. My DIY projects are extremely limited and I was intimidated to try to install crown molding by myself, but this video definitely lessened my hesitation. YOU ROCK!!!
Great real world problem-solving. Thanks for having the courage to show the walkthrough when things aren't perfect like a DIY cable show pretend they are supposed to be. For those of us with older houses and are looking for improvements, this is a great how-to video. Have a good one!
Searched how to install crown molding. Looked at the times on the other videos. Less than 5 mins. Said fudge that. Watched this detailed video instead. This is the man to go to for home improvement. Awesome video man. Never leaves anything out. 👋 well done sir.
I'm a bored stay at home mom who decided to renovate the Master by herself is becoming a dyi UA-cam vocational graduate. It's videos like this that have made it possible for me to actually learn real life skills that have made this project possible.
New home owner here. I'm really excited to do a lot of the design implementations around my house. I just want to thank you for such a helpful detailed video. I will definitely re-watch this video for my crown molding job. Keep up the fabulous work. All the best to you!!
I've watched your videos on more than one subject and I think you are the best. You are a very good instructor and cover the subject matter in a manner to let a person understand why you do something, not just do it and let them try to understand why. As always, great video.
I love reading all the posts even the haters comments. Making a video, cutting,hanging pieces and trying to teach at the same time has to be the most difficult part of the video. Good Job doing your part to aid others.
Shannon.. I honestly CANNOT thank you enough my friend. You have seriously taught me so much and have helped me advance in my career and make more money in my life. So much love and respect to you buddy. Keep on keeping on and don't let the haters get you down. You are awesome, good sir.
Excellent presentation. Very low key. The star of the show is the finished crown molding. I congratulate you on your delivery and competence. Perfect for the average/beginner person. Thank you.
That was very helpful! I just did my first room, taking my time and it came out excellent with very minor gaps which I caulked. Thank you for all your instruction.
Just opened a small business, and this is by far the best video I’ve seen. I work in a old apartment complex. People trash the place, recently just flooded the place. I installed a drop ceiling and the walls were in even. I’m glad you show things up close good and bad. I’ll probably watch this video a couple times. Thanks man
I like that you run into the same problems that us average carpenters do and problem solve them. I for one am not interested in a perfect job but a job that has had some problems and you have solved it with perfection. Awesome job love your videos keep up the good work. Thanks for keeping it real
This was a great real world video. We moved into a new house a few months ago and my wife wants me to install crown moulding in some rooms. I learned a lot here. :) Thanks!
I'm very thankful that gap presented. It will help me remain calm when I inevitably create the same gap. It was also very rewarding to see just how well it will turn out after appropriate filling. Think of it this way, had you slapped up perfect joints - we never would have learned that!
This channel is the best! Thank you for explaining everything so thoroughly and showing how to fix the inevitable issues. I've cut plenty of angles (doing home projects) and I still get confused on which way to cut, so it helps to watch someone do things before I do it. My husband doesn't explain well, he just does it, and I like to do things on my own when he isn't around to do it. So thank you for such great tutorials!
Good tip to write the measurement on the wall which will always be covered! As many times as I've done floor moulding, it never occurred to me to do that:) I think it would be a good video to show people how to do both inside and outside corners that are really off from 90 degrees and show the necessary math up close so it's clear.
Great job! I feel as if I could handle it to know I could expect mistakes and you showing how to fix them gives me a ton of confidence. Thank you for your posts!
Great instruction video. You point out the real world issues with the gaps in this project. Nothing is ever exact in home construction, and to expect perfection, then not attain it, is what sets most people back from completing the job. There is always a workaround. Thank you for the effort, although 9 years later, its very relevant today!
I purchased that jig and it is well worth it. I was able to figure out the angles using my mitre saw but once I used the Kreg jig it saved a bunch of time. Your videos are always great!
12:55 Tip of the day right there. After nailing on a long piece I found out the corner was messed up and wouldn't line up with the next piece. After rewatching this video I made the 2 test pieces with inside and outside corners. 1st it helped me confirm the corner joint will be as it should be and will line up nicely with the next piece, but since I labelled them all I used them to confirm that I was cutting the next piece the correct way. Easy to get confused cutting upside down and backwards. (O_o) Thank you and your camera person for your efforts.
A good technique I've used for helping to get coped corners really smooth is to wrap a scrap piece of moulding in sandpaper & use the profile as a sanding block on your coped edge. Gets it SUPER tight 😉
Just bought a house with the wife and I know she wants crown molding. Much appreciated! Also saw other videos for projects that will be going on in the future. Thank you Shannon!
I'm in South Central Alaska building my cabin. I wanted to put heavy duty crown molding for utility, for hanging stuff on so I hatchet trimmed 2x4s to fit the wall/ceiling but had trouble with the corner angles. Almost decided to just go flat on the wall until I came across your video. I rigged me a homemade miter box for my handsaw. Works like a charm and looks good too. Thanks for the video.
As a female DYIer, thank you so much for this. I'm like other posters and when looking for a video to fit my needs after 5 minutes in of watching others, I'm lost. This is so basic and exactly what I was looking for. Being left-handed, I also needed really good visuals from basic start to finish. Much appreciated!
Found your site today. Thankyou so much for this video it is super helpful. I'm not a builder just a dyi-er and the moldings had me stumped. Also your easy going style induces me to give it a go. Many thanks from me down here in New Zealand.
Down to earth dignified Canadian pro. Seen many of his videos and truly a seasoned tradesman tackling multi construction task. Kudos to our humble Northern cousin.
One word of advice, if you leave your intersecting joints un-nailed a foot or so in each direction, you can 'roll' the corners in or out to get a tighter joint.
Exactly, if your corners are a little off and 90 degrees and you cut at 45 degrees you can still roll your trim up or down the wall to close gaps, for inside corners if gaps is on top you tap in the ceiling side of crown to roll trim down,,, if gapped on bottom tap up on wall side of crown to roll upwards,,, for outside corners if gap is on top like in this video tap the ceiling side of crown peices to roll down wall and if gapped on bottom tap on wall side to rool crown up, obviously if lenghts are wrong gaps will always be present,,, some time inside corners dig into drywall causing profiles to not line up properly, I myself use a long hand pump extendable spreader bar to hold my crown into the wall ceiling corner a few feet back from joins on longer peices so i dont have to nail it until corners are rolled to a nice tight fit and to hold up adjoining peices until corner is formed. Not so easy on short lenghts but long lenghts this is doable
i work at a lumber yard, i have plenty of customers asking me to install base/crown and i ended up starting a side buisness, your videos are verry helpful and ive learned manny things from you. thank you mate
After getting quotes for some crown moulding work I said that's out of my budget, and decided I need to figure out how to DYI, and saw some videos of pros installation and I knew my installation wasn't going to look like there work. I finished my install and I was surprised how well it came out. So thanks to you for explaining the instructions, Good job!👍🍻
For the people that are commenting negatively, he is not doing this video for you ! He is doing it for people like myself whom don't know how to do it properly, and he explains as such that we all get it. He shows us how to do it "beginner style" and then fix up some minor defects because he knows that only an experience chippy can do it perfectly ! If he showed us how to do it perfectly, how would WE be able to copy that ? UA-cam brings out the worst in humanity unfortunately.
Around 14:30. "Nail in about every 16 inches..." He should have said to nail into every stud or joist. This wall doesn't have any mechanicals, but a homeowner could have used that information as an AOK to shoot nails anywhere. It could have been an electrical wire or a water pipe, or even air conditioning lines. That'll definitely cost thousands. I've witnessed it. It took a few days for it to appear as a rust stain on the trim. The trim crew used 15 gauge nails. One went right through air conditioner line. So maybe I am a little dramatic. Of course you could just take your chances and shoot 2" nails directly into the sheetrock. Maybe you'll hit wood. Maybe not. The caulk will hold it up there just fine.
I am pretty sure that any person tackling this job has enough common sense to not drive nails into the wall without finding studs or joists. If they don't already know that, they have no business doing the DIY in the first place.
Thank you so very much for your video. We are moderate DIY'ers. We try to do as much stuff as we can to save money. Only certain things we know we can't do or can't do well, we will hire a pro to do as it is past our knowledge and experience. A lot of people can do more than they think they can. My late father was pretty big into woodworking and as a kid, I kinda followed his passion. Usually girls don't care for car stuff and getting dirty and cutting wood and making things. I still do the girly things, but I enjoyed every day I could follow my dad around the house when he was fixing things. My biggest thank you is for showing and explaining to us how to cope the corner. Funny thing is I have that exact coping saw, but never knew this use for it. My dad had this saw and used it for other cuts similar. My husband and I are going to put up crown molding in our master bedroom and living room and both rooms have vaulted ceilings. Usually that is not done because it is too complicated for many that they won't install it. I've seen a few vaulted ceilings with crown and it is gorgeous. Crown molding makes the nicest statement when you walk into a room that has it. It also makes a nice transition from ceiling to wall or wall to ceiling. I found a guy on UA-cam that explains how to cut and install crown on a vaulted ceiling, but he doesn't exactly show us how to cope the corner and I was left confused at how. So I kept looking and found your video. I just recently bought the Kreg Crown Pro (my dad was a big Kreg fan-hence I followed suite). I am so glad you use the Kreg Crown Pro in this video so my husband can better see how it is used. Also, just like others have mentioned, thank you for showing us how to do this and that not every corner will be flawlessly perfect. Houses settle and joints aren't always perfect all the time. Plus, nothing is perfect in life anyway. New subscriber here. Thanks again for the taking the time to make this video and share it with us.
I know others have stated this but I felt compelled to repeat their sentiment. THANK YOU for showing real world solution to mitering crown molding on walls that aren’t perfectly aligned. The glue and tape trick is the EXACT things we need to see. I’m rebuilding my home due to damages from hurricane, etc and finally at the molding stage. ✊
Thanks ,we produced so many in the first half of this year we have not been able to get back at it lately. We both work full-time as well as doing this. Hope to have some more soon.
I think you did a great job! looks so pretty. Gaps are always going to happen. Don't worry about the negative comments. People have nothing better to do with their lives but be ugly. I am so grateful for the teaching. You keep making these videos. You have helped me tremendously.! You remind me of my precious grandson.
I've done finish carpentry for over 35yrs too. Every single cut has its own circumstances to why you would miter cut or cope. sometimes you have to do both depending on whats going on in the corner. Half the time you can't tell if the ceiling bows up and/or down until the crown is on. Then your stuck with the dilemma of cutting at 43, 44, 45 sometimes up to 47 degrees on an outside corner that exceeds 90 degrees. So there is no right or wrong way. The house will show you what you have to do. But I do the long pieces first after I write down the measurements so it minimizes scrap. Or roughly write down all your cut lengths and go see what you can make with what you have.
There really is a right way tho. Using the protractor. Anything over 90 degrees, divide it by 2 and subtract from 90. Anything under is a coping issue. Depending on how detail oriented you are or maybe even how impatient..there's definitely a right way. Sometimes more than one right way but start with that formula and and even if the cieling is "swollen" you are a lot tighter than you would've been by guessing or even the old "cut it til it fits" formula.
Always, always nail 2 outside corners at the same time. When you nailed one outside corner the angle moved, you did really good. I dealt with the same thing and noticed that if I nail outside corner at the same time I can manipulate the corners to join perfectly
My Gosh People, nothing is perfect in the fix-it / construction world. The normal homeowner doesn't know how many imperfection there are until... DIY comes into play. In my house every darn wall isn't straight, even a 2 inch joining wall is bowed in ~ at the corner. The floor is UN-level as heck and different size plywood was used for the sub-floor. I know this because tiling (Qty. 500 13"x13" tile) proved its ups and downs. Then there were the walls in fitting quarter round trim, along with some baseboards. My goodness so many variables and then working hard to get it as-perfect-as-perfect can be. So we shot for perfection, but still nothing came out perfect. By the way Great Video! You talk slow like my husband and have a pleasant voice. Your voice makes it for easy listening, unless I'm on caffeine lol Just the same, finally someone slows down to explain the details and what type of tools they are using. From a 1-5 rating I give you a 10 for all the helpful information. Now I can hang crown with a bit more confidence. Again, thank you for taking the time to post the video.
@14:37 I know this is an old video. I've installed quite a bit of crown molding as DIY. What I've learned is that it's better to leave the ends of each piece loose, don't nail them yet until you butt the other piece to it. That allows you to make any minor adjustment and minimize the gaps before nailing.
Good video.Shannon. I've heard it said that, " A little caulk and a little paint makes a carpenter what he ain't". But as a life-long "do-it-yourself"er, I have a lot of respect for the carpenters of the world.As I'm sure we all do. Recently my girlfriend and I began remodeling our "newest" older home.Built in 1926, it has become a great learning experience.And up till now, Mother nature, poor material choices, and several layers of paint have all been just part of it's 90 yr history.But our work continues, because of the craftsmen who built her and those of us who believe in all of it's corners.Inside and out! Thanks for sharing and helping us with the finishing touches.
Shannon, I use a dremel sanding drum to shave the back of the inside cut of the crown. this will allow you to get the cope cut closer in to the square cut side. I find that you can be more precise and quickly remove the excess wood from the back of the crown without damaging the contour of the cope. The dremel comes with different diameter drums in order to get closer to tighter contours and configurations. I hope this tip helps you.
Coping is very easy, but it's experience I've acquired over time from doing base and crown molding. MDF can easily chip if your not careful on your entrance cut and exit. I like coping on wood product, but now a days MDF is a lot more common.
Thanks for the video. My crown molding turned out good and it was the first time I installed it. Appreciate the straight forward video; nice to see one where the person isn't trying to impress us with special effects.
I'm a handyman but enjoy your videos. I usually know what and how to do things myself but always think it is wise to check and see if others may have an easier way. I have learned several little tricks that I didn't know before watching some of your videos. I believe you guys have one of the best how to videos out there. Thanks
leave corners loose and carry a block with you....tack pieces in place and you can use block to "roll" crown up or down to get corners tight....if the pieces are just "tacked" with one nail it will stay in place but will still be able to roll the crown up or down wall with hammer and block of wood.......example on outside corner your gap was top....take a block against the top edge of crown and flush with ceiling. ..hammer block towards wall to roll crown down the wall to close up that gap......I always nail the field off and leave all corners loose.....come back and roll the corners up or down to get joints tight
I also snap lines for straightness. I use blue and I snap most of the caulk off before snapping it on the wall. Sometimes I can't help but deviate from the line, but at least I can judge how much I am off.
The rolling technique you are speaking of only works if you have a nailer behind whatever corner you are trying to tighten. This guy is just nailing the top edge of the crown into drywall, not the ceiling joists or a pre-cut backer. You can tack and roll all you want, but you need to nail crown into wood. All this guy is doing is asking for the crown to explode in future years as the house expands via the seasonal weather. I don't understand why guys install trim this way, it's a waste of time and money.
Could you just glue your outside corners before attaching to walls? I.e. with those two part glues (glue+activator) that take like 5 seconds? You probably wouldn't have more than two outside corners in a row, so worst case you'd have to assemble a U shape piece on the ground. I know that's how a lot of people assemble door/window casings to get near perfect miters.
Thanks for the video. I've done a lot DIY building projects and I'm a pretty decent carpenter but I've only done crown a couple times and I struggled with it. It's really easy to forget what you were doing and cut the wrong angle and getting the miters to line up on a wall/ceiling that aren't flat can be tough. I found the inside corners easier to "fix" because you can hide things with a coped cut but there's no hiding a bad outside corner joint. I've watched a few videos from guys that only do trim work and have to admit they have it down to a science. Me, I'm still learning.
Instead of using a coping saw, I like to use a dremmel tool with a large and small sanding drums. It's 10 times faster and you make even more precise fittings. Cheers!
I've done video production for over 30 years recording hundreds of instructional videos. Great job with the video production for this video. I also enjoy doing woodworking DIY projects around my house. I really like the clear instruction and leaving in those real world issues and how to deal with them.
I just want to Say Thank You for Being So Helpful with Crown Moldings....AND for Showing Me Which Tool to Buy....l Purchased the Kreg Crown-Pro...Extreemly Helpful....Thank You Again.....
Thank you for taking the time to do this video and dealing with real world issues. I appreciate videos that show how to fix and deal with errors and issues that I know I will make.
Just remember, the amount of focus is lessened when combining a teaching session and very detailed carpentry. Some of you people can't drive and chew gum, so stop it with negative comments just because of a (fixable) gap. If he wasn't sidetracked with having to explain his procedure, im positive that gap would not be there. Just stop being so negative, people!
We put a piece of tape on the fence and scribe a line . Feels more secure for me ,especially working with long runs. And cut lefty or righty so you don't cross your arms up! Safety first! You can use shims to get the joint tight and bring it off the wall a tiny bit, looks better and easier to fill gaps. Fine finish deals in half of half degrees! Glue joints. Putty is not my buddy. Bondo , it's ok the painter will fix it!
yeah this guy seems to know what he's doing to a point me on the other hand I've been doing it for 15 years and I learn something new everyday. you always start with the smallest piece first no matter where it's at then you work your way out small pieces first all the way up until you hit the biggest piece and the biggest piece is popped in place then and only then you will have a 100% tight connection on all fits. and we don't cope anymore. when do 45 degree cuts 22 + 1/2 33 + 1/3
bro I know for a fact you can teach me some things so I can show you some shit on how to trim out a house will blow your mind. husband trimming out homes for almost 15 years. use your million-dollar homes and up. I would love to sit down on the phone and talk to you because I try to learn something everyday
chris m yeah I learn not to cope anymore. about my second house I quit coping. La Mai my material down and I cut from left to right and I never move the saw once I put it in its opposition it's degree cut I don't move it I move the material I twist and I turn and I flipped the material. and I got from left to right so my hands are not making an X by the saw. which is extremely dangerous to do
chris m me personally I am hung just to see if I can do it or not and trimmed out 18 doors solidcore 8 Footers by myself before 10 hours. that's including the back door. and anything upstairs oh yes that's also including double doors. you'll see me hang the trim for a window it would blow your mind that you would see only one man doing this. I also hang around by myself all the way up to a 22 footer. you're probably thinking how do you do a 22 foot piece of crown well you never voted together in the middle that's dangerous. you have an equal amount of weight on both sides and when you go to pick it up in the middle it will break. unless you give it a back if you take a piece of quarter inch about two foot long and you glue it to the back somewhere in the center of your break then you're good
Saw a video where a guy used a cordless 4 inch hand grinder with a flapper disc to take out coping material , it did a real nice job, haven’t tried it myself yet though. Great video as always Shannon
I would make sample cuts for all corners on a small scrap bit ,see if it fits tight,adjust the angle to fit . I would be pretty disappointed if one of my outside corners was that open
@@eze311 umm yea you would its called spakling use it if your a painter like me you can have up to 3/8 cuts not match and puddy dem sand dem and your good
Small scrap pieces do not help, 1’ piece fits different then a 5’ or longer piece...people should understand that it’s not the carpenter to be blamed but the framers, sheet rockers...crown should be installed level, not following the ceiling, that’s where everything gets screwed
Thanks for sharing this detailed video. I love how you showed the less than perfect joint and how to address the issue. You are a great teacher and this video was so helpful to me.
Way to go Shannon. I am considering crown mouldings & appreciate the tips. Caulking, DAP & paint are my best friends. I am critical of my own work but I also realize my own skills. As long as my boss (my wife) is happy LOL
good video. i like how you kept it real in saying all the mitres are not always perfect. because thats real and nothing in carpentry is perfectly square. good job boys
I have a small business doing renovations. This guy is one of my to-go-to people for when I have some doubts. I like how in none of his videos he edits out his mistakes. You see his errors and if you don't think that in itself is knowledge, then you go ahead and screw up and learn the hard way yourself. Crown molding is tricky, so give the guy credit because the final result looks how it should.
Do you carry your own insurance? I’m a 25-year old that just created an LLC and have small projects but don’t know if should take the leap. Seems very pricey for now
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All his videos are great. Watch and learn..ty
I' ve been doing crown molding for about 35 years now, and the best way to cope is to pull down with the saw and keep it at about a 5 to 10 degrees going inwards. Also to fix the outside miter issues, and inside miters ,refrain from nailing the molding about two feet from the cuts. At this point you can move both sides up or down to create the perfect miter everytime.
Nail ot 2 feet back so you can align them? Ok.
@@jacobsweeney2330 until you get them perfect then fasten it 4 to 6 I inches back so ya don't bust it
@@matthewotis3594 Make the cut slightly longer than required by a few mm, then use the pressure created to create a tight joint, the total distance of displacement will hardly be noticeable along the entire length of the board. This works great for inside corners, outside corner pieces should be first installed to allow for this to be used, and the longer sections are best kept at perfect length. Its the main buttress that need to be slightly longer.
@@matthewotis3594 Could even put caulking on the ends instead of glue, then wipe it straight away, that glue would shrink anyway so not very helpful. You might not even need to come a second time, just have to caulk the long straights edges.
Excellent video. I like that you've shown the various cuts and angles and had good camera shots to show the specific details. What I like most is that you showed some of the issues I've experienced with walls out of square and small gaps. This video will help me with the crown molding project I'm starting this week. Thanks for the nice job. Very helpful.
I Really appreciate the extra time you take to explain and demonstrate. For those of us who have not yet attempted the jobs you demonstrate it gives one more confidence to experiment and atleast try a project. Lack of appropriate tools is the biggest issue for me. Thank you so much for all the great tips along the way too!
Man I like how you keep things clear and simple I've watch other videos and man they just like to complicate things. Thanks for posting God Bless you.
Thanks for ALL the info that you provide in this video and all your other videos. My DIY projects are extremely limited and I was intimidated to try to install crown molding by myself, but this video definitely lessened my hesitation. YOU ROCK!!!
Great real world problem-solving. Thanks for having the courage to show the walkthrough when things aren't perfect like a DIY cable show pretend they are supposed to be. For those of us with older houses and are looking for improvements, this is a great how-to video. Have a good one!
Searched how to install crown molding. Looked at the times on the other videos. Less than 5 mins. Said fudge that. Watched this detailed video instead. This is the man to go to for home improvement. Awesome video man. Never leaves anything out. 👋 well done sir.
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I'm a bored stay at home mom who decided to renovate the Master by herself is becoming a dyi UA-cam vocational graduate. It's videos like this that have made it possible for me to actually learn real life skills that have made this project possible.
New home owner here. I'm really excited to do a lot of the design implementations around my house. I just want to thank you for such a helpful detailed video. I will definitely re-watch this video for my crown molding job. Keep up the fabulous work. All the best to you!!
I've watched your videos on more than one subject and I think you are the best. You are a very good instructor and cover the subject matter in a manner to let a person understand why you do something, not just do it and let them try to understand why.
As always, great video.
I love reading all the posts even the haters comments. Making a video, cutting,hanging pieces and trying to teach at the same time has to be the most difficult part of the video. Good Job doing your part to aid others.
Great video. I love that you cover all the details and show what we normally deal with in an older home.
Shannon.. I honestly CANNOT thank you enough my friend. You have seriously taught me so much and have helped me advance in my career and make more money in my life. So much love and respect to you buddy. Keep on keeping on and don't let the haters get you down. You are awesome, good sir.
Excellent presentation. Very low key. The star of the show is the finished crown molding. I congratulate you on your delivery and competence. Perfect for the average/beginner person. Thank you.
Too many DIY videos depict perfect joints. I like real world examples that show how to cope with less than perfect environments! GREAT JOB!!!!!
+Joe Vasta In the real world pretty much nothing is perfect and thats one of the things we try to demonstrate as well.
+Joe Vasta ...I agree Joe. Great job Shannon as always.
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That was very helpful! I just did my first room, taking my time and it came out excellent with very minor gaps which I caulked. Thank you for all your instruction.
Just opened a small business, and this is by far the best video I’ve seen. I work in a old apartment complex. People trash the place, recently just flooded the place. I installed a drop ceiling and the walls were in even. I’m glad you show things up close good and bad. I’ll probably watch this video a couple times. Thanks man
Best instructional moulding video I've ever watched...details, less than perfect conditions, imperfections....you covered it all...Thank you
I like that you run into the same problems that us average carpenters do and problem solve them. I for one am not interested in a perfect job but a job that has had some problems and you have solved it with perfection. Awesome job love your videos keep up the good work. Thanks for keeping it real
My thought exactly!
The more of this kind of home repair stuff you do, the more you learn that a little caulk or glue or paint solves a lot of problems.
I love how you are so humble. great job Shannon!
I appreciate your integrity in showing alot of the issues that come up in real life when doing the actual work. Thanks
This was a great real world video. We moved into a new house a few months ago and my wife wants me to install crown moulding in some rooms. I learned a lot here. :) Thanks!
I'm very thankful that gap presented. It will help me remain calm when I inevitably create the same gap. It was also very rewarding to see just how well it will turn out after appropriate filling. Think of it this way, had you slapped up perfect joints - we never would have learned that!
Thank you so much for the "real world" tips and how to fix almost perfect cuts. So much more helpful than edited "perfect" videos. Thank you!!
keep'n it real here! lol
This channel is the best! Thank you for explaining everything so thoroughly and showing how to fix the inevitable issues. I've cut plenty of angles (doing home projects) and I still get confused on which way to cut, so it helps to watch someone do things before I do it. My husband doesn't explain well, he just does it, and I like to do things on my own when he isn't around to do it. So thank you for such great tutorials!
Good tip to write the measurement on the wall which will always be covered! As many times as I've done floor moulding, it never occurred to me to do that:)
I think it would be a good video to show people how to do both inside and outside corners that are really off from 90 degrees and show the necessary math up close so it's clear.
Great job! I feel as if I could handle it to know I could expect mistakes and you showing how to fix them gives me a ton of confidence. Thank you for your posts!
Chris Silver Watching you makes it easier for me to try on my house . I'll be looking for more video's. Awsome Job . Thanx for your time
Joe took the woods out of my mouth! I like the fact that you show real life application and do not edit. Great job!
Thanks we like that people appreciate that also.
Great instruction video. You point out the real world issues with the gaps in this project. Nothing is ever exact in home construction, and to expect perfection, then not attain it, is what sets most people back from completing the job. There is always a workaround. Thank you for the effort, although 9 years later, its very relevant today!
I purchased that jig and it is well worth it. I was able to figure out the angles using my mitre saw but once I used the Kreg jig it saved a bunch of time. Your videos are always great!
12:55 Tip of the day right there. After nailing on a long piece I found out the corner was messed up and wouldn't line up with the next piece. After rewatching this video I made the 2 test pieces with inside and outside corners. 1st it helped me confirm the corner joint will be as it should be and will line up nicely with the next piece, but since I labelled them all I used them to confirm that I was cutting the next piece the correct way. Easy to get confused cutting upside down and backwards. (O_o)
Thank you and your camera person for your efforts.
A good technique I've used for helping to get coped corners really smooth is to wrap a scrap piece of moulding in sandpaper & use the profile as a sanding block on your coped edge. Gets it SUPER tight 😉
Just bought a house with the wife and I know she wants crown molding. Much appreciated! Also saw other videos for projects that will be going on in the future. Thank you Shannon!
That is awesome!
I'm in South Central Alaska building my cabin. I wanted to put heavy duty crown molding for utility, for hanging stuff on so I hatchet trimmed 2x4s to fit the wall/ceiling but had trouble with the corner angles. Almost decided to just go flat on the wall until I came across your video. I rigged me a homemade miter box for my handsaw. Works like a charm and looks good too. Thanks for the video.
As a female DYIer, thank you so much for this. I'm like other posters and when looking for a video to fit my needs after 5 minutes in of watching others, I'm lost. This is so basic and exactly what I was looking for. Being left-handed, I also needed really good visuals from basic start to finish. Much appreciated!
Always do the longest pieces first. That way if you make a mistake! You can still re use the pieces
good tip
Found your site today. Thankyou so much for this video it is super helpful. I'm not a builder just a dyi-er and the moldings had me stumped. Also your easy going style induces me to give it a go. Many thanks from me down here in New Zealand.
Shannon. Once again you've been a huge help. You are the go-to guy for home improvement projects. Thank you!
good work, and thanks for your time to explain whit details.
Shannon is the only guy I trust for my home improvements on youtube
+POLO tv awesome, thanks!
Awesome instruction. No nonsense video with no aggravating music playing in the background. Straight to the point. Thank you. 🤗✝️
Down to earth dignified Canadian pro. Seen many of his videos and truly a seasoned tradesman tackling multi construction task. Kudos to our humble Northern cousin.
One word of advice, if you leave your intersecting joints un-nailed a foot or so in each direction, you can 'roll' the corners in or out to get a tighter joint.
Exactly, if your corners are a little off and 90 degrees and you cut at 45 degrees you can still roll your trim up or down the wall to close gaps, for inside corners if gaps is on top you tap in the ceiling side of crown to roll trim down,,, if gapped on bottom tap up on wall side of crown to roll upwards,,, for outside corners if gap is on top like in this video tap the ceiling side of crown peices to roll down wall and if gapped on bottom tap on wall side to rool crown up, obviously if lenghts are wrong gaps will always be present,,, some time inside corners dig into drywall causing profiles to not line up properly, I myself use a long hand pump extendable spreader bar to hold my crown into the wall ceiling corner a few feet back from joins on longer peices so i dont have to nail it until corners are rolled to a nice tight fit and to hold up adjoining peices until corner is formed. Not so easy on short lenghts but long lenghts this is doable
thank you for the tips. this is the reason i love coming onto you tube to learn many DIY vids.
ROGUE RONIN he did
Hey man, just came back from doing my first crown job, wanted to say thank you for this comment as it helped me and is a great idea, cheers!
I do this professionaly and your recommendation is key! Thanks!
You do a good job of educating. Thanks.
i work at a lumber yard, i have plenty of customers asking me to install base/crown and i ended up starting a side buisness, your videos are verry helpful and ive learned manny things from you. thank you mate
After getting quotes for some crown moulding work I said that's out of my budget, and decided I need to figure out how to DYI, and saw some videos of pros installation and I knew my installation wasn't going to look like there work. I finished my install and I was surprised how well it came out. So thanks to you for explaining the instructions, Good job!👍🍻
Thank you for this video..helped me a lot DO-it-myself in my house.
Thanks,great idea to for my next project this give me 100 percent knowledge about crown molding.
I appreciate the fact that it was an imperfect fit. Usually, that is the case. existing homes are never perfectly square. Thanks for posting
Thank you for this great demonstration. Your videos are sincerely helping lots of ppl. So once again thanks for sharing the knowledge
Shannon, Thanks for the tips, your video is very helpful.
For the people that are commenting negatively, he is not doing this video for you ! He is doing it for people like myself whom don't know how to do it properly, and he explains as such that we all get it. He shows us how to do it "beginner style" and then fix up some minor defects because he knows that only an experience chippy can do it perfectly ! If he showed us how to do it perfectly, how would WE be able to copy that ?
UA-cam brings out the worst in humanity unfortunately.
He said something in the video that could cost homeowners thousands of dollars in damage. Should we just ignore that fact?
A little dramatic dont you think ? What point in the vid are you talking ?
Around 14:30. "Nail in about every 16 inches..." He should have said to nail into every stud or joist. This wall doesn't have any mechanicals, but a homeowner could have used that information as an AOK to shoot nails anywhere. It could have been an electrical wire or a water pipe, or even air conditioning lines. That'll definitely cost thousands. I've witnessed it. It took a few days for it to appear as a rust stain on the trim. The trim crew used 15 gauge nails. One went right through air conditioner line. So maybe I am a little dramatic. Of course you could just take your chances and shoot 2" nails directly into the sheetrock. Maybe you'll hit wood. Maybe not. The caulk will hold it up there just fine.
I am pretty sure that any person tackling this job has enough common sense to not drive nails into the wall without finding studs or joists. If they don't already know that, they have no business doing the DIY in the first place.
This guy didn't
Thank you so very much for your video. We are moderate DIY'ers. We try to do as much stuff as we can to save money. Only certain things we know we can't do or can't do well, we will hire a pro to do as it is past our knowledge and experience. A lot of people can do more than they think they can. My late father was pretty big into woodworking and as a kid, I kinda followed his passion. Usually girls don't care for car stuff and getting dirty and cutting wood and making things. I still do the girly things, but I enjoyed every day I could follow my dad around the house when he was fixing things.
My biggest thank you is for showing and explaining to us how to cope the corner. Funny thing is I have that exact coping saw, but never knew this use for it. My dad had this saw and used it for other cuts similar. My husband and I are going to put up crown molding in our master bedroom and living room and both rooms have vaulted ceilings. Usually that is not done because it is too complicated for many that they won't install it. I've seen a few vaulted ceilings with crown and it is gorgeous. Crown molding makes the nicest statement when you walk into a room that has it. It also makes a nice transition from ceiling to wall or wall to ceiling. I found a guy on UA-cam that explains how to cut and install crown on a vaulted ceiling, but he doesn't exactly show us how to cope the corner and I was left confused at how. So I kept looking and found your video. I just recently bought the Kreg Crown Pro (my dad was a big Kreg fan-hence I followed suite). I am so glad you use the Kreg Crown Pro in this video so my husband can better see how it is used. Also, just like others have mentioned, thank you for showing us how to do this and that not every corner will be flawlessly perfect. Houses settle and joints aren't always perfect all the time. Plus, nothing is perfect in life anyway. New subscriber here. Thanks again for the taking the time to make this video and share it with us.
I know others have stated this but I felt compelled to repeat their sentiment. THANK YOU for showing real world solution to mitering crown molding on walls that aren’t perfectly aligned. The glue and tape trick is the EXACT things we need to see. I’m rebuilding my home due to damages from hurricane, etc and finally at the molding stage. ✊
You guys need to start making videos again I enjoy watching Shannon despite anyone hating on him he still knows what he doing and shoes experience
Thanks ,we produced so many in the first half of this year we have not been able to get back at it lately. We both work full-time as well as doing this. Hope to have some more soon.
Thanks for all the videos. This has added to my knowledge and understanding. Great vids!
After 3 years, still a relevant and great video! Perfectly explained! THANKS!!🙏
I think you did a great job! looks so pretty. Gaps are always going to happen. Don't worry about the negative comments. People have nothing better to do with their lives but be ugly. I am so grateful for the teaching. You keep making these videos. You have helped me tremendously.! You remind me of my precious grandson.
I've done finish carpentry for over 35yrs too. Every single cut has its own circumstances to why you would miter cut or cope. sometimes you have to do both depending on whats going on in the corner. Half the time you can't tell if the ceiling bows up and/or down until the crown is on. Then your stuck with the dilemma of cutting at 43, 44, 45 sometimes up to 47 degrees on an outside corner that exceeds 90 degrees. So there is no right or wrong way. The house will show you what you have to do. But I do the long pieces first after I write down the measurements so it minimizes scrap. Or roughly write down all your cut lengths and go see what you can make with what you have.
good advice
Jeff Fleischman thanks that makes me feel bettee cause Im having trouble...
Agreed..
There really is a right way tho. Using the protractor. Anything over 90 degrees, divide it by 2 and subtract from 90. Anything under is a coping issue. Depending on how detail oriented you are or maybe even how impatient..there's definitely a right way. Sometimes more than one right way but start with that formula and and even if the cieling is "swollen" you are a lot tighter than you would've been by guessing or even the old "cut it til it fits" formula.
That is how its done in the real world. Good job
Always, always nail 2 outside corners at the same time. When you nailed one outside corner the angle moved, you did really good. I dealt with the same thing and noticed that if I nail outside corner at the same time I can manipulate the corners to join perfectly
He is doing very good explaining everything and I understand him very well. Will sure watch more of his videos for sure. Thank You!!👍
My Gosh People, nothing is perfect in the fix-it / construction world. The normal homeowner doesn't know how many imperfection there are until... DIY comes into play. In my house every darn wall isn't straight, even a 2 inch joining wall is bowed in ~ at the corner. The floor is UN-level as heck and different size plywood was used for the sub-floor. I know this because tiling (Qty. 500 13"x13" tile) proved its ups and downs. Then there were the walls in fitting quarter round trim, along with some baseboards. My goodness so many variables and then working hard to get it as-perfect-as-perfect can be. So we shot for perfection, but still nothing came out perfect. By the way Great Video! You talk slow like my husband and have a pleasant voice. Your voice makes it for easy listening, unless I'm on caffeine lol Just the same, finally someone slows down to explain the details and what type of tools they are using. From a 1-5 rating I give you a 10 for all the helpful information. Now I can hang crown with a bit more confidence. Again, thank you for taking the time to post the video.
@14:37 I know this is an old video. I've installed quite a bit of crown molding as DIY. What I've learned is that it's better to leave the ends of each piece loose, don't nail them yet until you butt the other piece to it. That allows you to make any minor adjustment and minimize the gaps before nailing.
I have watched a few of these and by far, this is the clearest most well explained. Thank you
Good video.Shannon. I've heard it said that, " A little caulk and a little paint makes a carpenter what he ain't". But as a life-long "do-it-yourself"er, I have a lot of respect for the carpenters of the world.As I'm sure we all do. Recently my girlfriend and I began remodeling our "newest" older home.Built in 1926, it has become a great learning experience.And up till now, Mother nature, poor material choices, and several layers of paint have all been just part of it's 90 yr history.But our work continues, because of the craftsmen who built her and those of us who believe in all of it's corners.Inside and out! Thanks for sharing and helping us with the finishing touches.
Shannon, I use a dremel sanding drum to shave the back of the inside cut of the crown. this will allow you to get the cope cut closer in to the square cut side. I find that you can be more precise and quickly remove the excess wood from the back of the crown without damaging the contour of the cope. The dremel comes with different diameter drums in order to get closer to tighter contours and configurations. I hope this tip helps you.
Nice idea, Mdf if tough to cope with a saw
Coping is very easy, but it's experience I've acquired over time from doing base and crown molding. MDF can easily chip if your not careful on your entrance cut and exit. I like coping on wood product, but now a days MDF is a lot more common.
simply hyperextend mitre no need for dremel
You can use wood shims to shim out the corners for a tighter fit!
Thanks for the video. My crown molding turned out good and it was the first time I installed it. Appreciate the straight forward video; nice to see one where the person isn't trying to impress us with special effects.
I'm a handyman but enjoy your videos. I usually know what and how to do things myself but always think it is wise to check and see if others may have an easier way. I have learned several little tricks that I didn't know before watching some of your videos. I believe you guys have one of the best how to videos out there. Thanks
Thanks Richard we appreciate that.
leave corners loose and carry a block with you....tack pieces in place and you can use block to "roll" crown up or down to get corners tight....if the pieces are just "tacked" with one nail it will stay in place but will still be able to roll the crown up or down wall with hammer and block of wood.......example on outside corner your gap was top....take a block against the top edge of crown and flush with ceiling. ..hammer block towards wall to roll crown down the wall to close up that gap......I always nail the field off and leave all corners loose.....come back and roll the corners up or down to get joints tight
+kirk dunn make a video to show how it is done so like it would help alot of people out.
+kirk dunn That's how it works best.
I also snap lines for straightness. I use blue and I snap most of the caulk off before snapping it on the wall. Sometimes I can't help but deviate from the line, but at least I can judge how much I am off.
The rolling technique you are speaking of only works if you have a nailer behind whatever corner you are trying to tighten. This guy is just nailing the top edge of the crown into drywall, not the ceiling joists or a pre-cut backer. You can tack and roll all you want, but you need to nail crown into wood. All this guy is doing is asking for the crown to explode in future years as the house expands via the seasonal weather. I don't understand why guys install trim this way, it's a waste of time and money.
Could you just glue your outside corners before attaching to walls? I.e. with those two part glues (glue+activator) that take like 5 seconds?
You probably wouldn't have more than two outside corners in a row, so worst case you'd have to assemble a U shape piece on the ground.
I know that's how a lot of people assemble door/window casings to get near perfect miters.
GREAT VIDEO, THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for the video. I've done a lot DIY building projects and I'm a pretty decent carpenter but I've only done crown a couple times and I struggled with it. It's really easy to forget what you were doing and cut the wrong angle and getting the miters to line up on a wall/ceiling that aren't flat can be tough. I found the inside corners easier to "fix" because you can hide things with a coped cut but there's no hiding a bad outside corner joint. I've watched a few videos from guys that only do trim work and have to admit they have it down to a science. Me, I'm still learning.
This sure makes installing crown molding a lot easier. I like the protractor trick. Thanks Shannon!
Than you for being so professional teaching, the perfect video I was looking for, thank you thank you...
Instead of using a coping saw, I like to use a dremmel tool with a large and small sanding drums. It's 10 times faster and you make even more precise fittings. Cheers!
So you can not cope with jig saw. How you would use dremmel at maple? Advise for yours coping skill - go drive school bus.
Thank you for your time. You take to make sure the people looking at your videos can understand. you’re the best
I've done video production for over 30 years recording hundreds of instructional videos. Great job with the video production for this video. I also enjoy doing woodworking DIY projects around my house. I really like the clear instruction and leaving in those real world issues and how to deal with them.
Glad it was helpful!
Great job. Really enjoyed watching this. Thank you.
thanks
I’m only 12 and I’m learning how to do this
I just want to Say Thank You for Being So Helpful with Crown Moldings....AND for Showing Me Which Tool to Buy....l Purchased the Kreg Crown-Pro...Extreemly Helpful....Thank You Again.....
The General Tool 'Crown King' is good too. You cut in the same position as the install.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video and dealing with real world issues. I appreciate videos that show how to fix and deal with errors and issues that I know I will make.
We try to keep it real
No house is built perfectly there is always differences in measurements, thank you for the video
Just remember, the amount of focus is lessened when combining a teaching session and very detailed carpentry. Some of you people can't drive and chew gum, so stop it with negative comments just because of a (fixable) gap. If he wasn't sidetracked with having to explain his procedure, im positive that gap would not be there. Just stop being so negative, people!
You are one of the pros n I must say u have molding silicone the cuts are perfect great work 💯
I love the fact that everything you do is real world and not a bunch of theatrics. Thank you.
We put a piece of tape on the fence and scribe a line . Feels more secure for me ,especially working with long runs. And cut lefty or righty so you don't cross your arms up! Safety first!
You can use shims to get the joint tight and bring it off the wall a tiny bit, looks better and easier to fill gaps. Fine finish deals in half of half degrees! Glue joints. Putty is not my buddy. Bondo , it's ok the painter will fix it!
You can also roll the molding slightly to tighten up gaps.
True...I have used a block to tap up from bottom or in at to to help roll...works well for me.
yeah this guy seems to know what he's doing to a point me on the other hand I've been doing it for 15 years and I learn something new everyday. you always start with the smallest piece first no matter where it's at then you work your way out small pieces first all the way up until you hit the biggest piece and the biggest piece is popped in place then and only then you will have a 100% tight connection on all fits. and we don't cope anymore. when do 45 degree cuts 22 + 1/2 33 + 1/3
good info
bro I know for a fact you can teach me some things so I can show you some shit on how to trim out a house will blow your mind. husband trimming out homes for almost 15 years. use your million-dollar homes and up. I would love to sit down on the phone and talk to you because I try to learn something everyday
so you don't cope at all anymore
chris m
yeah I learn not to cope anymore. about my second house I quit coping. La Mai my material down and I cut from left to right and I never move the saw once I put it in its opposition it's degree cut I don't move it I move the material I twist and I turn and I flipped the material. and I got from left to right so my hands are not making an X by the saw. which is extremely dangerous to do
chris m
me personally I am hung just to see if I can do it or not and trimmed out 18 doors solidcore 8 Footers by myself before 10 hours. that's including the back door. and anything upstairs oh yes that's also including double doors. you'll see me hang the trim for a window it would blow your mind that you would see only one man doing this. I also hang around by myself all the way up to a 22 footer. you're probably thinking how do you do a 22 foot piece of crown well you never voted together in the middle that's dangerous. you have an equal amount of weight on both sides and when you go to pick it up in the middle it will break. unless you give it a back if you take a piece of quarter inch about two foot long and you glue it to the back somewhere in the center of your break then you're good
Saw a video where a guy used a cordless 4 inch hand grinder with a flapper disc to take out coping material , it did a real nice job, haven’t tried it myself yet though. Great video as always Shannon
Thanks Shannon for posting these videos, they're really helpful, I've learned a lot with them.
I would make sample cuts for all corners on a small scrap bit ,see if it fits tight,adjust the angle to fit . I would be pretty disappointed if one of my outside corners was that open
I wouldn't pay for that
gasmanrm
@@eze311 umm yea you would its called spakling use it if your a painter like me you can have up to 3/8 cuts not match and puddy dem sand dem and your good
@@eze311 i build 4 to 5 million dollar homes in los gatos and los altos california whre every body gots copper gutters and down spouts
Small scrap pieces do not help, 1’ piece fits different then a 5’ or longer piece...people should understand that it’s not the carpenter to be blamed but the framers, sheet rockers...crown should be installed level, not following the ceiling, that’s where everything gets screwed
I usually don't nail to close to the corners until I fit the next piece. That way you can manipulate any gaps. You sound Minnesotan ???
agreed
canadian. close enough
Thanks for sharing this detailed video. I love how you showed the less than perfect joint and how to address the issue. You are a great teacher and this video was so helpful to me.
Thanks for watching!
Way to go Shannon. I am considering crown mouldings & appreciate the tips. Caulking, DAP & paint are my best friends. I am critical of my own work but I also realize my own skills. As long as my boss (my wife) is happy LOL
You can do it!
im using a tube of caulk per joint, is this normal?
+wizard owl Wow ,I would say no!
+wizard owl You might want to check your measurements when you get close to a case per joint...: )...I've seen some joints like that...:)
Caulk is the thing !
lmao
pack it full with saw dust and then less chaulk...saw dust is free lol
Whats up with all the piss poor sheetrock work on the tape joints on the ceiling>?
VERY NICE PRESENTATION! It's nice that you showed how a project always has problems and you showed how to resolve them. Thanks
good video. i like how you kept it real in saying all the mitres are not always perfect. because thats real and nothing in carpentry is perfectly square. good job boys