Is Nathan Cleary already an immortal? Panthers three-peat raises BIG questions | NRL 360 |Fox League

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  • The NRL 360 panel react to the 2023 NRL Grand Final which saw the Panthers reign supreme for a third straight year.
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  • @ucesaftf9383
    @ucesaftf9383 Рік тому +171

    Gordy saying cap doesn’t matter? 😂 Brother Api, kikau, capewell, burton would still be there 😂 Critta and leniu wouldn’t be leaving. If there was no cap Penrith would pump every club.
    Theyve stayed on top despite their key losses and haven’t missed a beat WITH a harder competition and cap space involved. We are witnessing the greatest team of all time

    • @bodgiesteve8849
      @bodgiesteve8849 Рік тому

      Then what are you gonna do with all the juniors that are developing at StMarys?
      Whenever there's a vacancy, another youngster comes in, and becomes a star. You'd leave them playing second grade?
      Just like a farmer, they must cull the heard, and inject new blood. Otherwise you loose your juniors, and your team keeps getting older. Kinda like Wane Bennet's Newcastle (dads army).

    • @robharris6874
      @robharris6874 Рік тому +16

      Exactly, Gordy does not really think of those little things !

    • @allansimpson7998
      @allansimpson7998 Рік тому +4

      ​@JOEY-999 had storm kept their players Panthers still be waiting.

    • @lahaes
      @lahaes Рік тому +16

      @@allansimpson7998 Kept who? Smith, Kronk, Slater? Mate their in their 40's lol

    • @AB07panthers
      @AB07panthers Рік тому +7

      Exactly. This what our line up would be if there was no salary cap.
      1. Edwards
      2. Turuva
      3. Burton
      4. Crichton
      5. To'o
      6. Luai
      7. Cleary
      8. Leota
      9. Koroisau
      10. Fisher-Harris
      11. Kikau
      12. Capewell
      13. Yeo
      14. Kenny
      15. Leniu
      16. Martin
      17. Cogger
      And with all the players in today's game like Munster, trell mit, teddy, tommy turbo, papi and cody just to name a few. These guys have stayed the number 1 team for the entire decade so far. The decades gone by have had more than one team to be considered the greatest. 70's was south's and manly, 80's was parra and the dogs, 90's was the broncos or the raiders and could even throw manly in there, and the 2000 to 2019 was either the storm or roosters. The 2020's have been no else but Penrith

  • @percussionplus11
    @percussionplus11 Рік тому +53

    Who came here just to see Gordies excuses 😂😂 he just doesn’t disappoint

    • @AJ73
      @AJ73 Рік тому +3

      It's the sports science, you can't compare eras but then goes and does that :)

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Рік тому +2

      @@AJ73the sports science that Tallis thinks should be taken out of the game 😂😂😂😂

  • @YouChwb
    @YouChwb Рік тому +99

    Cleary responded in a way that most of us have never seen in a GF. It is what it is, and that effort from the Penrith captain to help get the Panthers over the line is legendary. Such an extraordinary game that it made Gordie the spokesman for SAXA Salt.

    • @bornyesterday1895
      @bornyesterday1895 Рік тому

      As a neutral supporter, Brisbane blew that game.
      That's why he's pissed.
      The Broncos team he played in never shut up shop with 20min to go like that.
      If Ezra Mam is towelling up the Panthers backline, imagine what Inglis would have done.
      Johns and Sterling never missed tackles that led to tries in a GF, let alone 2 in a row.

    • @bornyesterday1895
      @bornyesterday1895 Рік тому

      @@Sensei_Sifu the first 3 beat the Panthers 5 out of 5 times. Thay might get one or two of the Roosters but the others they arent beating in big games. The Panthers would probably beat the last 2. The 1994 Raiders, 2004 Bulldogs would also beat this Panthers team imo.

    • @therelinquished4751
      @therelinquished4751 Рік тому

      How is tallis being salty he literally just said he needs to stand up like that at origin level, Matty did it Lewis did it, that's why their immortals they did it in all 3 levels 😂

    • @garethwest9069
      @garethwest9069 Рік тому

      @@Sensei_Sifu lol. The Chooks only beat the Warriors, but couldn't score ONE try in the GF '04 2nd half to beat the Dogz.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb Рік тому

      @@therelinquished4751 On a day when the game should be celebrated, Tallis couldn't help himself but put some kind of downer on it. He is, like that other prick sitting across from him in the glasses, a salty coont.

  • @Riff22741
    @Riff22741 Рік тому +177

    Tallis is in denial like he was at the gf 😂😂😂😂 ffs

    • @paulmitchell6485
      @paulmitchell6485 Рік тому +7

      Cleary wasn't BOG no way. He missed the tackles that directly lead to 2 tries

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Рік тому +39

      @@paulmitchell6485he admitted he played awful, but then made up for it. He steered his team to victory when the momentum was against them and they looked gone

    • @Alekosdw
      @Alekosdw Рік тому

      @@imalwaysrightbut is he an immortal

    • @jeromebukam1235
      @jeromebukam1235 Рік тому +3

      ​@@imalwaysrighttwo tries to Panthers was "protected tactic" plays. One in the 63rd minute and another in the 76th minute mark.

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Рік тому +12

      @@jeromebukam1235 imagine having this hate lmao

  • @chek33official
    @chek33official Рік тому +67

    Ive been one of his biggest critics but i have to give credit where its due. That performance put him in the legendary class.

  • @Chama266
    @Chama266 Рік тому +40

    Gordy sounds a bit salty 😂😂😂😂

    • @josheee6123
      @josheee6123 Рік тому +5

      Sitting there like a saxa picnic pack 😂

  • @peterichards4317
    @peterichards4317 Рік тому +45

    Everyone forgetting how good Cogger was when he came on. Panthers looked like a completely different team as soon as Cogger came on the field. He kept digging into the defensive line and playing it out the back. He was instrumental in their comeback last night

    • @Nic0909
      @Nic0909 Рік тому +6

      Yeah definitely. Knights got a good one for next year, panthers probably should have kept him and let Luai go

    • @garethwest9069
      @garethwest9069 Рік тому +1

      @@Nic0909 Amen. Luai is a myth. Penrith didn't miss a beat w/ Cogger during the regular season.

    • @peterichards4317
      @peterichards4317 Рік тому

      @@Nic0909 I actually agree. I’m a Knights fan and I’m stoked Cogger is coming back. I feel for Penrith though they have changed his game a lot and developed him to be better. Luai should just get back to playing footy and leave the bad guy persona at home. Reckon he’ll re sign or move on?

    • @3peatUptheriff
      @3peatUptheriff Рік тому +1

      Luai went off and broncos scored 3 tries 😂😂😂

    • @peterichards4317
      @peterichards4317 Рік тому +1

      @@3peatUptheriff those tries were scored on Clearys edge not Luai.

  • @wagwun6602
    @wagwun6602 Рік тому +139

    Nathan Cleary will be inducted as an NRL Immortal when his career is done 🔥

    • @nhraandnascarfanatic5907
      @nhraandnascarfanatic5907 Рік тому +7

      100% he’s already twice the footballer his old man ever was… but he’s still a fair way off becoming an immortal.. defiantly destine for it though

    • @Palmwhat
      @Palmwhat Рік тому +1

      @@nhraandnascarfanatic5907it’s not hard to be twice the player is old man was but is he better then joey was is the question

    • @nhraandnascarfanatic5907
      @nhraandnascarfanatic5907 Рік тому +1

      @@Palmwhat well this is true!

    • @OZIPUG1970
      @OZIPUG1970 Рік тому +2

      Definitely

    • @st6086
      @st6086 Рік тому +8

      He might need to dominate state of origin to tick that off the immortal list

  • @eh5369
    @eh5369 Рік тому +22

    Each year Penrith from 2020, 21, 22 lost 3 to 4 players due to the Salary Cap and won 2021, 22 and 23 year. That is remarkable. Gus Gould and other legend's said they have 5 or 6 premierships in them. Time will tell.

  • @JSCHMIT94
    @JSCHMIT94 Рік тому +30

    Gordies tears are so, so sweet

  • @Roonoon2
    @Roonoon2 Рік тому +51

    Phenomenal game of football, I cried a bit at the end it was overwhelming

  • @hahahlol9724
    @hahahlol9724 Рік тому +12

    Critta also stood up, unsung hero.

  • @bernyoz
    @bernyoz Рік тому +24

    Tallis still holding off on talking about how great this team huge reluctance

  • @OlyMar83
    @OlyMar83 Рік тому +30

    It’s once in a generation how the panthers have managed to do this 3 peat. The squad is young, they all played together in the lower grades, all are hitting their straps at a young age which allows the club to win comps by spending little $$. Then you got guys like leota, Dylan edwards, Liam Martin, turuva, who do their jobs well but are not superstars. Just a great mix of players at early stages of their careers.

    • @kinchegayowie6167
      @kinchegayowie6167 Рік тому

      pathways hey

    • @OlyMar83
      @OlyMar83 Рік тому +1

      @@kinchegayowie6167 yeh absolutely. Staines, burton, easily replaced

    • @kinchegayowie6167
      @kinchegayowie6167 Рік тому

      that's what having competitions from juniors up, pick the best players, enhance their game @@OlyMar83

    • @richardharris8745
      @richardharris8745 Рік тому

      the squad is also amazing that def helps

    • @OlyMar83
      @OlyMar83 Рік тому +1

      @@richardharris8745 I remember when they got rid of Moylan… I was like they are crazy. But now they have edwards. Who is a solid FB.

  • @lauifisaufoisamoa
    @lauifisaufoisamoa Рік тому +7

    It will never be disputed that Lockyer, Thurston, Inglis, Slater and Smith all lost the 2008 World Cup!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ryder1757
    @ryder1757 Рік тому +6

    Those Magical moments from Cleary came because of his missed tackle on Recce Walsh and Mams try. He knew he made a mistake and had to make up for it and boy did he make up for it

  • @Daewonnni
    @Daewonnni Рік тому +57

    Cleary should certainly be in the conversation for immortal status. At 25 has already achieved just as much as Joey.

    • @Opeth221
      @Opeth221 Рік тому +5

      Hasn't done it in origin.

    • @greybuck7011
      @greybuck7011 Рік тому +4

      joey shouldnt be an immortal either

    • @poasaolaaiga74
      @poasaolaaiga74 Рік тому +2

      Yeah he’s won 2 series of Origin

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb Рік тому +1

      @@poasaolaaiga74 Isnt it three?

    • @Nuttmilk
      @Nuttmilk Рік тому

      ​@@greybuck7011😂

  • @robertprasad6111
    @robertprasad6111 Рік тому +5

    I wrote down last week that Cleary was a good player but doesnt come close to Andrew Johns and the likes, and also i wrote that he doesntstand up in big games.. But i take that back and I eat my words, give credit where credit is due Nathan Cleary just proved me wrong ( I think he read my comments lol) you were awasome and mate i take my hat of to you. Congratulations Nathan Cleary and the Panthers.

  • @gregbishop610
    @gregbishop610 Рік тому +8

    Tallis pushing the News Corp News Ltd lol

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому

      Yep, for those who don't know, News Corp, the owner of Fox Sports, own the Brisbane Broncos. So if you're wondering why the bias against Penrith, it's not hard to understand. If you want to hear someone crying as much as Tallis, listen to Michael Ennis' embarrassing commentary on the Fox version of the Gf. When Mam was scoring tries Innes was screaming like he'd won lotto. When Penrith sealed the game he was silent for about 20 seconds and his co-commentator must have nudged him under the desk to say something. What a flog.

  • @CJH94
    @CJH94 Рік тому +7

    The problem is nostalgia. Comparing a modern professional team to semi pro teams from the 90s is just ridiculous.

    • @DavidT97
      @DavidT97 Рік тому +4

      These modern teams would put 100 plus on the older teams.

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому +1

      Facts lol. If you watch footage of the 90s and before that. It seems like players never knew how to tackle🤣. Defense was so bad back then.

  • @MikeDelta5697
    @MikeDelta5697 Рік тому +16

    Gordie and Goggles are just hating 😂😂

  • @damienwhyte4723
    @damienwhyte4723 Рік тому +18

    Gordy can’t handle the fact that this Penrith team is the best of probably all time

    • @BigMan.270
      @BigMan.270 Рік тому

      It's all good to create a what if situation, but you can't go comparing sides from the past. So many different rule changes from yesteryear 'til now. You can't even compare the Storm sides from 2006-2009 to the Storm sides of 2016-2020.

  • @ems1488
    @ems1488 Рік тому +11

    Hahaha..Tallis the flog can't even admit Penrith are a legendary side and that this team has created HISTORY.
    80's/90's teams, are great in their respective eras.
    The game is EXTREMELY different from then to now. Good/Bad, take how you like it
    From a TIGERS ride or die,
    Well done Penrith 2021, 2022 & 2023, Best Penrith side of the modern era.

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому

      Gordy is right, they are winning in a very weak era of footy, no depth and teams are weaker, forwards barely play 40mins, Cleary only has 2 runs for 66m and he is the worlds best, kick protected by the ref all game, his runners offised at every kick, never penalised..FFS what a joke, no depth of players, bloated out scorelines every week, the semis were a joke...Im with Gordy...the game and comp is a joke

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому +1

      @@freedomofchoicelover3734 Cry more. That was your chance, and you were beaten by a champion team. No Flegler or Farnworth next year, and Reynolds playing with a walking stick.

    • @pantherz9103
      @pantherz9103 3 місяці тому

      @@freedomofchoicelover3734 Cry more 😂

  • @jaykibcollins7345
    @jaykibcollins7345 Рік тому +4

    You can’t exactly use the storm because they broke the salary cap 😂

  • @hortonwilson9279
    @hortonwilson9279 Рік тому +17

    At 3 o'clock Cleary is the man of the hour again, only 25yrs of age with his third NRL title is astonishing at that age. This guy has potential to be the man of every hour around the clock.

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому

      Again...this is the 1st time in any final or Origin he has brought his team back from a deficit..1st time....yes...FACT...hardly a world beater

  • @realg.7731
    @realg.7731 Рік тому +19

    Leota and harris dominated broncos forwards. Not big like their opps but damn the motor & the will to stand and bang with haas, flegler & carrigan unreal!!!!

    • @leshgooo1016
      @leshgooo1016 Рік тому

      As a broncos supporter I agree. Payne haas was our best foward. Imo patty had nothing. Credit to Penrith such a great side.

  • @antixhrist
    @antixhrist Рік тому +4

    Gordy needs to wake up to himself and just give credit where credits due. Other than mam getting a hat trick where else in that game did he stand out? Cleary had 20 minutes left and stood up for his team not just by scoring but the 40/20, the set up up for Stephen, the plays and catching the ball on the full from Reynolds. Brisbane played a 60 minute game and Penrith showed why they’re the best. Neither of these teams are my teams so I have no bias opinion and I think Penrith always had the upper hand with their finals experience. I’m glad broncos lost because you don’t win GFs for playing 60 minutes. They’re young and I think a lot of those players have a lot to learn and to get rid of their egos. I’ll say another thing too is that these guys comments about Cleary not being a great, I get it cause he’s still so young and has a long way to go BUT I guarantee you now, if it was Reece Walsh that did those things last night and not Cleary they’d be all over sucking up his ass raving about how he’s already immortal. They just wanna find any way to say Penrith isn’t as good as they actually are. They need to stop talking about Reece, like he is a great player there’s no denying that, but it’s feeding into his head way to much and it comes out onto the field and off. He needs to be humbled and brought back down to earth. I don’t see Nathan being an arrogant, self entitled prick.
    Hate it, hate Penrith but they really are a fucking great team and they deserved it last night

  • @BG-ir1ii
    @BG-ir1ii Рік тому +5

    Gourdie is a SOUR (very) OLD MAN.

  • @easyebrown6469
    @easyebrown6469 Рік тому +5

    Single handedly? Come on! Yes he did great but you gotta give credit to some big game plays ie Leotas charges, Crittas game changer moments; picking up loose ball, forcing x2 drop outs, scoring a try through brute strength and his defensive efforts!

  • @foxtrot111100
    @foxtrot111100 Рік тому +2

    TALLIS - "THE RAGING FOOL!!!"

  • @Mahatheyew
    @Mahatheyew Рік тому +7

    Damn Tallis is SALTY lmao.

  • @boganbob2708
    @boganbob2708 Рік тому +4

    Gordy don't like mentioning the Storm and the salary cap
    In a Rugby League player poll, an overwhelming 49% of players voted for the Storm as the dirtiest team in the competition.

  • @mahnmoe
    @mahnmoe Рік тому +13

    Gordon is the biggest hater, what now fool????? Qlders just dont get finals.

  • @jd4062
    @jd4062 Рік тому +11

    Andrew Johns is an immortal and achieved less then Nathan Cleary.

  • @damienwhyte4723
    @damienwhyte4723 Рік тому +13

    No one wants to give Nathan his credit

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому +1

      2 runs in 80mins for 66m...whoopy doo, work rate ZERO, barely tackles..hides behind the ref protected players to kick...hardly skillful...1st time in Clearys history has he brought his team back from a deficit, Origins gone hiding every single time, had one good second half and they claimed he was the worlds best, FFS give me a break DCE played all over him the past 4 years, only after his team put them in front by 20 at half time did cleary decide to do something...people need to look closely at what he actually does and DOEST do for ALL of the game

    • @aross8509
      @aross8509 Рік тому

      @@freedomofchoicelover3734it’s ok man I’m here for you ❤

    • @BigMan.270
      @BigMan.270 Рік тому +1

      ​@@freedomofchoicelover3734He's an overhyped player. He's average, at best. You only need to look at how Panthers faired when he was out injured/suspended over the last 2 years. Jack Cogger & Sean O'Sullivan kept them winning. They didn't miss a beat. I reckon that if Penrith had Luke Brooks as halfback, they still would've won, on Sunday.

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому

      @@BigMan.270 very true, great points, same goes for Luai, they kept winning without him, and failed at Origin badly..the year they won origin was against the worst Qld team in history, i reckon Luai faked his injury as Mam was running all over him, he didnt seem in too much pain on the sideline, JT and Cronk and others have played with one arm in big games

    • @pantherz9103
      @pantherz9103 3 місяці тому

      @@freedomofchoicelover3734 cry more 😂 he came up with the plays that mattered most to help us win the GF and that’s all that matters

  • @redleegudia491
    @redleegudia491 Рік тому +18

    Gordi tryna put words in their mouths... dude is one sour guy who seems to hate Panthers.. 😂😂... Nathan Cleary Greatest Immortal Of All Time.

    • @Bandojay1
      @Bandojay1 Рік тому +3

      I was so happy seeing his reaction after losing, Bloke was shocked 🤣🤣

    • @huntermitchell3314
      @huntermitchell3314 Рік тому +4

      I’m older bloke, I can admit that these younger players are 10x the athletes and players than what they were 30 years ago. On top of that they playing for longevity that’s not weak that’s smart. Talis talks about his old times to much

  • @AndrewinAus
    @AndrewinAus Рік тому +5

    Die hard Panthers here have been for over 30 years. Amazing game by the boys, never give up. Absolutely floored by the comeback and to be the best team of the modern era. As for Cleary as an immortal. I am pretty sure if he keeps going as he has the last few years and can help win Origins and International's he will get there. Just not yet as an immortal. That is rarified air.

  • @cactuscake1323
    @cactuscake1323 Рік тому +7

    Gordie always brings up Queensland players all the time

    • @matrix35
      @matrix35 Рік тому

      And the media jerk off Cleary. Cleary missed 3 tackles that lead to 3 Broncos tries yet nothing was said. No where near being the GOAT and never will be

    • @Cranvelly
      @Cranvelly Рік тому +5

      Because he’s biased. Typical Queenslander. Cronk is the only impartial Queensland pundit.

    • @gillybuzz
      @gillybuzz Рік тому

      Cause NSW are trying to act like the last decade and a half didn't happen lmao

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому

      @@Cranvelly fact, cause he spent time with the roosters

  • @boerbru9721
    @boerbru9721 Рік тому +40

    Dont like panthers but Cleary and the team is amazing cant help but applaud there performance. Cleary is a GOAT already and panthers are the best team in the modern era .

    • @craigwynn3956
      @craigwynn3956 Рік тому

      He's the GOAT already ?
      What are u taking ?

  • @josephdamien5888
    @josephdamien5888 Рік тому +5

    Guys give NC his du credit. No one in the NRL era have achieve what he achieved last night. He's won a SOO series and a world cup for Aus already. What more is there to win?

    • @robbielawson6528
      @robbielawson6528 Рік тому +2

      Premiership, Origin and Test match in the same calendar year. Can you guess who did do it? Heres a clue not from NSW

    • @josephdamien5888
      @josephdamien5888 Рік тому +1

      @@robbielawson6528 It's about his performance last night. Greatest comeback in gf history. Almost single handedly dragged his boys over the line completing the historical three peat. I'm almost 40. Never witnessed anything like that in my entire life.

    • @robbielawson6528
      @robbielawson6528 Рік тому

      @@josephdamien5888 He had a blinder no doubt. NO ONE wins a game single headedly GF or not. Just annoying to hear immortal thrown about so readily. A Champion team beats a team of champions every time.

    • @josephdamien5888
      @josephdamien5888 Рік тому

      @@robbielawson6528 Yep Immortality definitely not yet. He has to dominate rep football for sure and perform consistently at that level. Long way to go yet!

  • @Hanzothagod
    @Hanzothagod Рік тому +6

    Nathan Cleary is 25 and already got more chips and clive churchill medals than Joey and JT, he has a origin series under his belt, a world cup and not only he has those premierships but he got them in a 3peat that hasnt been done in 40 years. Again, he’s 25 and already doing things no other half has done. Think about what his career is going to look like when he retires..insane

    • @SlaintheMhath
      @SlaintheMhath Рік тому

      And missed out on a fourth ring by a converted try in the 2020 GF.

    • @chriscross1031
      @chriscross1031 Рік тому

      @@Sensei_Sifu this team would've destroyed them tho. They'd go over 30 points imo

  • @buddysally886
    @buddysally886 Рік тому +7

    Nathan will be the 🐐

  • @freedomofchoicelover3734
    @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому +2

    Mam outplayed Luai so badly, that he faked his injury just to get off...what a cat

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому +3

      And what happened to mam? He was so quiet after he's hattrick. Maybe he was already thinking about the celebration parties lol🤣🤣🤣🖕

    • @BluesGetOrigin
      @BluesGetOrigin 6 місяців тому +2

      And Mam cried after the game like a sook lol

    • @BluesGetOrigin
      @BluesGetOrigin 5 днів тому

      11 months later and Luai leads the Panthers to 2nd on the ladder with halfback Cleary injured majority of the season. Ezra Madam on the other hand led his Broncos out of the Top 8 with halfback Reynolds out most of the season
      Dont ever compare Ezra to Luai again casual fan 🤣 Luai’s competing for a 4th premiership in a row while Mam is watching at home

    • @BluesGetOrigin
      @BluesGetOrigin 5 днів тому

      11 months later and Luai leads the Panthers to 2nd on the ladder with halfback Cleary injured majority of the season. Ezra Madam on the other hand led his Broncos out of the Top 8 with halfback Reynolds out most of the season
      Dont ever compare Ezra to Luai again casual fan 🤣 Luai’s competing for a 4th premiership in a row while Mam is watching at home

  • @husaberg650
    @husaberg650 Рік тому +3

    Gordon was gritting his teeth severely

  • @paulbate5037
    @paulbate5037 Рік тому +2

    Nathan Clearly just a master class . !

  • @teekid7741
    @teekid7741 Рік тому +1

    Nathan cleary the legendary chin

  • @mikehunt923
    @mikehunt923 Рік тому +1

    Gordon speaking of the running athlete in the 80’s v the Bolt(s) of today …
    Flo Jo set the 200m women’s record in 1988 and it still stands today
    Jus accept that the panthers today are greater than any rugby league club team that has existed in the game.
    Thanks

  • @jefferycecil765
    @jefferycecil765 Рік тому +7

    You cannot compare different generation teams. Right now Panthers are the best hands down and will be put down as one of the best teams ever. This coming from a WARRIORS OG, UP THE WAHS🦾

  • @jenconvertibles
    @jenconvertibles Рік тому +2

    Extraordinarily rare Buzz Rothfield W

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright Рік тому

      He’s been the only one championing the Panthers among the flogs of 360 Gordon, Braith, Hoops, Crawley etc

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому +1

      More of a Gordie L

  • @southcyder
    @southcyder Рік тому +6

    Critta is going to be missed

    • @SlaintheMhath
      @SlaintheMhath Рік тому +2

      Yes he is probably the best center in the game and he will be missed but Taylan May will be back and we picked up Paul Alamoti from the dogs.

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому

      I doubt it, he can be replaced

  • @minamotofchds2316
    @minamotofchds2316 Рік тому +3

    Cleary definitely the goat

  • @Cranvelly
    @Cranvelly Рік тому +3

    Gordy take off your Queensland tinted glasses and respect greatness. Completely in denial and embarrassingly stubborn. Clearys already won Two Clive Churchill medals, 3 consecutive premierships, 3 State of Origin series and a World Cup (where he should have been starting over Cherry Evans). Without doubt he’s in the conversation for immortal status, but no one said he will be declared one today? Obviously that decision isn’t made when Cleary’s still 25 years old and mid-way through his career? Gordy now becoming the most dislikable and stubborn panelist, more than Buzz and Hooper and that’s not to be said lightly…

    • @ikimus
      @ikimus Рік тому

      Well said

    • @gillybuzz
      @gillybuzz Рік тому

      He lost the series to Cherry Evans that year, why tf would he be selected of him? SOO is the trials for the Aus team you absolute Muppet

  • @geoffreymori5959
    @geoffreymori5959 Рік тому +2

    Even if Cleary wins 5 or 6 premierships, Gordie would not give him any credit

  • @freelancerconverse4413
    @freelancerconverse4413 Рік тому +3

    Yes, they are the best ever.

  • @stewartdavies929
    @stewartdavies929 Рік тому +4

    Looking at Parramatta and the pre salary cap era from a different angle, they didn’t have the money that their major competitor, Manly had. Those Manly sides were full of internationals after raids on wests, norths and easts. It wasn’t chopped liver they beat. Also, saying that the great Dragons sides were worth three times the opposition is crap. Wests were the millionaires in those days and spent like drunken sailors in effort to beat the Dragons. And for what it’s worth, Ray Price and Brett Kenny should be immortals.

    • @eh5369
      @eh5369 Рік тому +1

      I agree. Add Steve Edge, Steve Mortimer as they led their teams from the front. Mortimer's Blues team crashed the Queenslanders and turned the tide when the Maroons were so dominating.

    • @albertkelly7129
      @albertkelly7129 Рік тому

      @@eh5369 that was because of Kennys brilliance though nothing Mortimer did.

    • @eh5369
      @eh5369 Рік тому

      @@albertkelly7129 you are obviously a one eyed yellow and blue supporter. Any mention of a Canterbury great like Mortimer and you close down the thought he could be an immortal like Stirling. Mortimer captained the Blues in 1984/85 in three matches (all victories) and was the first captain to lead New South Wales to State of Origin success. He led the way and inspired others to follow his foot steps

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому

      🧢

  • @legaci2164
    @legaci2164 Рік тому +2

    Penrith is the best team in the modern era full stop! You can’t refute their record

  • @jiant2754
    @jiant2754 Рік тому +5

    Did they forget Critta was playing?

  • @lukekahu6503
    @lukekahu6503 Рік тому +1

    What's scary is Reynolds and Johnson are at the end of there carer's clearly just getting started

  • @taufuilehauli5488
    @taufuilehauli5488 Рік тому +2

    I never seen anyone who turned the game around like that.

  • @jamesc1760
    @jamesc1760 Рік тому +11

    I'm not even a Penrith supporter but if this team wins a few more premierships this team WILL go down as The Invincibles, just as the 1980 bulldogs were known as The Entertainers. Even though I'd want to see my team hold up the trophy, part of me wants to see this Penrith team go on to achieve 'Invincible' status.

    • @mikehunt923
      @mikehunt923 Рік тому

      Why do they have to win a few more they are already the best team the nrl has ever seen..

    • @wolfgangvonuce9803
      @wolfgangvonuce9803 9 місяців тому +1

      glad someone can comment a rational opinion without crying. Good onya champ👍

  • @ericbana5508
    @ericbana5508 Рік тому +3

    So to be an immortal, you have to play origin?? Wow, I feel bad for my island brothers

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому +2

      Facts lol🤣 the origin argument is so dumb

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому +1

      Only three of the 13 immortals even played in an origin series.

  • @dirkdiggler9174
    @dirkdiggler9174 Рік тому +1

    One thing people aren’t talking about is and this is throwing the cat amongst the pigeons is what’s to stop Penrith paying old man Cleary a lot lot more money to keep Nathan as the coaches wages doesn’t fall into the salary cap . There’s one to talk about 🤔

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому

      No one is talking about it because it's rubbish. The coaches wages ARE included in the salary cup.

  • @jarrodfereti
    @jarrodfereti Рік тому +1

    Dam Cleary was awesome one of the best grand finals I’ve watch in long time

  • @judas2891
    @judas2891 Рік тому +3

    I really hope Cleary can dominate in State of Origin as well in the years to come.

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 9 місяців тому

      He's already done it. Where were you in 2021?

  • @BH-dsk
    @BH-dsk 9 місяців тому

    Cleary was undeniably spectacular but a few other notable mentions, the deception from Mitch Kenny at hooker, Cogger straightened up the attack massively, the magic touches from Crichton, and the supercharged twin turbo motor of Leota.

  • @helenivanic1628
    @helenivanic1628 7 місяців тому +2

    Only QLDer’s say that Cleary needs to win State of Origin to be declared Immortal. Cleary was in the ‘18, ‘19 & ‘21. Those were the three years NSW won it.
    YES, Cleary is declared GF Immortality.

  • @johnfoster7626
    @johnfoster7626 Рік тому +1

    Ivan Cleary has just won 3 premiereships in a row?
    Has Wayne Bennett?

  • @headswillroll89
    @headswillroll89 Рік тому +1

    We saw it with the storm, i cant wait to find out how many houses the penrith guys got

  • @muzzan1448
    @muzzan1448 Рік тому +1

    Cleary is definitely a great player. Definitely pushing legendary class. Is he immortal status - not quite yet. He hasn't been able to dominate at SOO or Country level - YET!
    Wonder if that is more to do with the Coaching style than his play.
    In the first half - Panther Pack dominated the Broncos. Plus the Broncos had too many errors for them to get into any real position to have long periods of attack. I think that was where the Panthers won the game, in the last 15 mins the Broncos were just cooked.

  • @johnh5424
    @johnh5424 Рік тому +2

    I don't understand why they're so keen to downplay the significance of the salary, especially when you consider the players Penrith have lost over the last few years.

  • @janicewilson-tx4ck
    @janicewilson-tx4ck Рік тому

    Broncos Winners Of our Hearts 💕💕💕 from a number 1 fan

  • @chiddiru6114
    @chiddiru6114 Рік тому +8

    why is no one talking about brisbane ONLY doing short drop outs resulting in 3 tries ? everyone talking like penrith ran through the middle of broncos and scored all their points.

    • @luke33garven2
      @luke33garven2 Рік тому +3

      Nha bro that's just standard brisbane style they took lessons off Melbourne they both imploded last week's of there campaign

    • @Davechappelle445
      @Davechappelle445 Рік тому

      Well the other one they did was out on the full

    • @chiddiru6114
      @chiddiru6114 Рік тому +1

      @@Davechappelle445 Yes, 1 dropout led directly to a try, 1 was out on the full to give them possession at the 20 and they scored, other dropout penrith got possession and scored. all 4 short drops, penrith got possession and they scored on 3 of them. much easier to score from 20m out then 60m out.

    • @SlaintheMhath
      @SlaintheMhath Рік тому +1

      I think that is called choking ......

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому

      Brisbane HAD to try those short drop outs because their defense was shot to pieces. Penrith won he game in the first twenty minutes by camping Brisbane on their own line and forcing them to make so many tackles. It was that early onslaught that told in the last twenty minutes. Brisbane had no gas in the tank.

  • @matthewlh6368
    @matthewlh6368 Рік тому +4

    Nathan is great but because he fails in origin I wouldn’t put him there no way

    • @jeromebukam1235
      @jeromebukam1235 Рік тому +1

      He goes to sleep in Origin games

    • @SlaintheMhath
      @SlaintheMhath Рік тому +1

      He has won 2 series and been injured for others, he goes alright at origin and he is still only 25, halves get better in their late 20s so his best is yet to come.
      Sorry your team lost.

    • @robocop5935
      @robocop5935 Рік тому

      Kenny sterling Ella grothe price peter Wynn. Coached by the legendary jack Gibson. That was a legendary team. For ever remembered.

  • @bradyjansen3023
    @bradyjansen3023 Рік тому +2

    Darren Lockyer won many big games on his own back and I’m not a Bronco or QLD fan
    It seems players from the 80 and 90 also don’t seem to get much attention.

    • @SlaintheMhath
      @SlaintheMhath Рік тому

      Lockyer played from 1995 to 2011.

    • @bradyjansen3023
      @bradyjansen3023 Рік тому

      I should have put also players from the 80s-90s
      @@SlaintheMhath

  • @kennythank
    @kennythank Рік тому +1

    Gordon talis on denial😅😅😂

  • @jamilovia8846
    @jamilovia8846 Рік тому +3

    He's taking it personal 😅🤦‍♂️

  • @coreyjohnston9195
    @coreyjohnston9195 Рік тому +3

    So gordan says they are if they win and they do and hes saying no now😅

  • @2stockshakur67
    @2stockshakur67 Рік тому +1

    With all the immortals that storm did have, they never did a 3peat lol. That’s what Tallis is so in denial in admitting

    • @eh5369
      @eh5369 Рік тому +1

      I seem to recall the
      Storm were caught cheating the
      Salary cap...and introduced wrestling tactics into game.. great achievements

    • @gillybuzz
      @gillybuzz Рік тому

      ​@@eh5369"introduced wrestling tactics into the game" lmaooooooo tell me you wear a tampon without telling me you wear a tampon lmaooooooooo

  • @Davechappelle445
    @Davechappelle445 Рік тому +1

    Who cares about state of origin lol. The guy is 25 with 3 premierships. If he gets another 2 he’ll be the best halfback ever. No questions asked

  • @altrexanto8425
    @altrexanto8425 Рік тому +13

    Episode 5 of Tallis being jealous of Panthers

    • @michaelmunro1963
      @michaelmunro1963 Рік тому +2

      Who wouldn't be jealous of the panthers and what they've done? From a Broncos supporter! The panthers something else.

  • @Kj2024-d3i
    @Kj2024-d3i 10 місяців тому

    This has been the best team by far over the the last 3yrs that can't be denied even if you are a 1 eyed supporter of another club , the game is so different now a lot faster these players are way fitter they have to be , and concerning Nathan ... well as a half back he's achieved more than any player in this position, an immortal for sure can't be denied that .

  • @eh5369
    @eh5369 Рік тому +1

    Didn't Gordon Tallis say last week the Grand Final hadn't sold out... where are the Penrith supporters....mmmm 82,024 people attended. SOLD OUT....

  • @beng7613
    @beng7613 Рік тому

    It’s easy to compare…. Just check the data and they stats you. Make a few allowances for rule changes and you get your answers.

  • @timwilliams5031
    @timwilliams5031 Рік тому +8

    Gordon Tallis has got to be the most condescending piece of work. Can’t stand the bloke I wish he wasn’t on this show. Bring back Kenty

  • @lilopaudanielsiu1772
    @lilopaudanielsiu1772 11 місяців тому

    Stephen crighton 100th game and been to 4 grandfinals won 3 out of 4 amd scored in all 4 grandfinals what an achievement 👏🏽

  • @eh5369
    @eh5369 Рік тому +4

    My counsel to Nathan Cleary is simple.. ignore the media hype about being considered an immortal etc... be focused, enjoy your game, and most importantly stay healthy as you are only at half way mark. What he did yesterday was a Tom Brady act of brilliance. The respect that counts is from the Penrith Supporters, his teammates and family. The rest especially the media can take a flying jump.

  • @matthewrolfe5964
    @matthewrolfe5964 Рік тому

    I would’ve love to see the 2014 Rabbitohs Grand Final Squad To Take On The 2023 Grand Final Squad Of The Panthers It Would Be The Greatest Grand Final Of All Time

  • @eh5369
    @eh5369 Рік тому +2

    Anasta and Tallis......Beavis and Butt-Head.

  • @robharris6874
    @robharris6874 Рік тому +5

    Tallis can`t handle being wrong doesn't he ah fair dinkum !!! Cleary won that game but he has years ahead him yet !

  • @5lipperysausage
    @5lipperysausage Рік тому +1

    Warriors really fucked the club for more than a decade letting the Cleary's go. Thank god we are under new management and have Ivan's assistant as our head coach. UP THE WAHS!

  • @shane1899
    @shane1899 Рік тому +1

    The way Andrew Gee reffed that game should be a blue to all refs thats how you ref a fuckin game!

  • @SampaFourty69
    @SampaFourty69 Рік тому +1

    No I like Cleary but he still needs to perform like this for the Blues & Kangaroos and the best thing is he knows that he needs to improve for both.

  • @pittchaser
    @pittchaser Рік тому +1

    That was the best gf ive ever seen, equal to or better than the 2015 gf. But i agree with Tallis, as an eels and blues supporter he has to do more with the blues to be put into the convo as the best ever.

    • @eh5369
      @eh5369 Рік тому

      Why?
      Bobby Fulton didn't play Origin and he is an immortal. I'm not sure why this topic is given much air as his 25. No one knows what will happen over the 5 to ten years regarding his health, the playing roster... I rather enjoy watching his path going forward then discuss the what ifs. Jealously is a funny thing.

  • @nohatejustlove19
    @nohatejustlove19 Рік тому +4

    Its funny how people instantly forget Cooper Cronk won 5 from 9, origin, golden boot and half back of the year 5 times. Clearly is the MJ of todays game and has the potential to be one of the greatest players ever but i dont think hes there yet

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому

      2006-2009 was cheated

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Рік тому

      He won 4 🤦🏻
      2 with storm and 2 with roosters, 07 and 09 was cheated

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 8 місяців тому

      Every time Cronk appears on air he marvels at what Cleary can do and admits that what Cleary does at the same age is well ahead of what he was capable of at the same age.

  • @fishandcookaustralia8112
    @fishandcookaustralia8112 Рік тому +7

    Gordon bleeds Qld so hates any Nsw team more so the Panthers.
    These guys have grown up eating, breathing rugby League from junior comps to the main stage as Penrith players say tall poppy syndrome.
    Great game enjoyed every minute of it so OWN it Gordy own it mate .
    Your so called super stars lost

  • @Viks231
    @Viks231 Рік тому +2

    Gordy 🥺
    Being in denial isn’t gonna change the L your broncos took , gotta give it to the panthers mate 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @warrenjanine3745
    @warrenjanine3745 Рік тому

    Yes, Great teams do find a way to win! With so much depth in their club.
    They will a strong unit for a few more years , ITS UP TO THE OTHER CLUBS TO TOPPLE THE GIANT

  • @StultifiedGraphics
    @StultifiedGraphics Рік тому +1

    Hard to compare teams from different eras but I feel like the early 80's it was a closer competition and harder to do, however this last GF was pretty special.

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому +2

      exactly....todays comp is very weak, easy to win a premiership, players are more spread out, no depth, bottom half of the comp can barely find a decent half back, scorelines regularly in the 50s and 60s were unheard of in those days...the semis were a joke, you could walk away after 5 mins and know the scoreline..its a disgrace to compare it to the eels dominance, plus the forwards today barely play 80mins, love to see Ray Prices highlights reels for 80mins compared to todays weak forwards

    • @DavidT97
      @DavidT97 Рік тому

      The part timers of the 80s would get 200 put on them by modern teams 😂 it would look like a Men vs children.

    • @freedomofchoicelover3734
      @freedomofchoicelover3734 Рік тому +1

      @@DavidT97 thank you, you just proved my point, if players in the 80s were full timers, on steroids and only had to play 40mins a game, had a break when someone pansy tapped them on the head, were allowed to go back on after getting a kiss on the sideline, yes they would be miles better than todays players and teams, MILES !! thank you for the support

    • @DavidT97
      @DavidT97 Рік тому +1

      @@freedomofchoicelover3734 ok, haha believe what you want.

    • @StultifiedGraphics
      @StultifiedGraphics Рік тому

      Thats why you cant compare them, They all worked for a living as well as play professional footy, it was a completely different game, they didnt have the technology to do what they do now. There wasnt a performance centre in sight back then. @@DavidT97

  • @JedidiahDelmasAdventures
    @JedidiahDelmasAdventures Рік тому +1

    Anasta na Talis utla kaikai maus !! Panthers Are the Greatest team of All Time

    • @eh5369
      @eh5369 Рік тому

      Anasta and Tallis......Beavis and Butt-Head

  • @hilly9114
    @hilly9114 Рік тому +1

    What about crightons performance? No1 is talking about it