I did too. I'd been thinking we were due another with recent weather and what's come online since last Dec. I do wonder though if we are actually seeing some generation curtailed at these times, as we're not currently optimally set up (grid and dynamic demand) for being able to absorb all this while needing to maintain perhaps 3GW of gas turbine running. Roll on more EVs, more smart heat pumps and more storage 🙂
Have had solar at home since 2008. After moving to Arizona from Wisconsin in 2016 installed a larger solar system and have driven a EV since August 2019. Currently producing a surplus of solar electricity of at least 35%.
You wouldn't get that in the UK. Not even in the south, and if like me you live in Northern Ireland. Then solar is about as good as an ashtray on a motorbike. The reason people have it on their roof was the money they could make back or the company that installed them made the money and you got free solar. Anyone I know who has them stated that if you are lucky you can have free p gets at night. And an odd kettle boiled. Arizona now that's a different climate and sun to the UK. Unfortunately not everywhere is suitable for solar. And as a so called genius stated 100 square miles of solar in Arizona would be enough to power all of America. The problem is the batteries and storing the electricity.
Same here in Maine, designed and built an almost-tiny off grid passive solar home nine years ago and never looked back. Tied into the grid two years ago and discovered that I used 864 kwh last year, and produced over 6000. Great to charge my car with the sun!
@@Noneyabusinessokif you google Maine and Northern Ireland, you find the latitude of Maine is 42-47 degrees and NI is 54%. That means you are further from the Equator and therefore closer to the Arctic and would expect both slightly lesser sunlight in strength and quantity.
@zoransarin5411 that's my point, solar panels are no good for NI although there are many who have them. And they got them because of a scheme that came in years ago where they didn't have to pay. And any profits were given to the companies that installed the solar. And the residents would benefit from the savings. Although in summer we have a few good weeks and it stays light until around 11.30 at night in the North west coast. In the south of England it can be beneficial for the people. But NI and Scotland and the North of England see very little sun unless we have a good summer. And the UK can be temperamental.
4% is HUGE. What if next year they do another say 6%. That's already 1/10 of all petrol stations replaced with electric. Then the year after that maybe they streamline the process and do another 10%.
50 years ago Texas was at the leading edge of technology. Calculators and LED watches, specifically Texas Instruments. Seems like they still have some practical electronics skills.
Thanks Robert, great as always. 👍 We ADORE our 5+ year old Tesla Model 3 - though might pass it on to a family member soon I guess (as it’s still as good as new) and update to a new Juniper model Y, better for my old bones and bad joints.
Deadset nearly spat my coffee 9:18 when an ad interrupted Robert right in the middle of words" in the world! " Lol the ad was for my local councils green waste bins 😅
I've been watching the "climate shenanigans" for over 2 decades now (I have a post graduate degree in environmental management) and have been growing increasingly despondent at the lack of progress on climate action and more alarmed as impacts intensifies. Your positive news stories are about the only thing keeping hope alive for me - a BIG thank you to you and the team! I also watch the Just Have A Think channel which recently featured your new website - I'm have already bookmarked it and subscribed to the newsletter. I'm in South Africa and we are way behind the trend. I will probably never own an EV, which does make me feel a little sad. Hopefully I'm still alive after 2035 when - theoretically - the last ICE will roll off the production line... we must organise a BIG global party to celebrate!!!!
@@CitiesForTheFuture2030 I watch both this channel and JHAT too. And have an Environmental Science degree aswell, and both channels do keep hope alive me, so Snap !
Try listening to 'Cleaning up', 'Watt Matters, 'Volts', 'The Energy Gang', and 'The Interchange'. All Podcasts that follow the energy transition (and you've already discovered 'Just have a think'). Things really are moving quite fast now, and it's pretty clear that energy and ground transport will be largely decarbonised over the next two decades, at least in the developed world. Steel and cement and shipping are showing signs of progress too. Buildings and agriculture still need _a lot_ of work, and what's going to happen in the developing world isn't clear (that's almost entirely about finance, rather than technology). The last decade has been extremely depressing if you understand the problem and we've got ourselves in a very bad place, but assuming civilisation can hold together a bit longer I feel like we are finally getting somewhere, and most of the money is now going to at least 'better' stuff, if not actually 'good' stuff, and we still have a fighting chance of coming out under 2C and 10 billion people in the end.
Sadly it will be fringe or poor area's that will be most impacted initially, Polar Bear's cannot hunt food as there's no ice but who gives a t*ss in London or New York so long as they can still drive their petrol and diesel cars s*d the rest of the World as they know climate change isn't real, our own MP's drive around in gas guzzlers when they could be in long rang tesla's charged from solar banks and stored energy. Lip service is all we get
@CitiesForTheFuture2030 maybe you can explain. Uk going to spend 22 billion on technology to capture carbon. Wouldn't it be easier to grow plants/trees etc. ?
Robert, Kyle with Out of Spec channels in Colorado (U.S.A.) tested the rear wheel drive long range model 3 from 100% till it stops while driving 70mph and it went 486 miles. The weather was however very good and almost no wind. They perform this test on many EVs.
Thank you for a very informative and positive video, it is good to hear someone who knows what they are taking about and are not in the pocket of big oil talking about renewable energy. Happy Christmas from West Australia
This was the most positive and refreshing news broadcast of 2024. Thanks Robert. Wishing you, your wife, and all of the Fully Charged team, the very best for 2025. 🙂👍
I drove the Nullabor twice (solo) in my Model 3, in 2022. It required a little planning and took about a day longer than most of my 20+ ICE trips (usually 3 days). It gets better every day, and next year we will do it again towing our teardrop caravan.
FACT CHECK: The 8 EV chargers figure is accurate. "They" were referring to the number of FEDERALLY FUNDED chargers. Robert's 192,000 figure is the total number of public chargers.
Where we live 3 year round gas stations have disappeared and the local one is seasonal. Ours is the only local electric car and being liberated from worrying about gas is wonderful.
I’d like to see more Level 2 chargers at restaurants and grocery stores, etc., placed where people stop for over a half hour. Running power to Level 2 chargers isn’t complex. And a lot of that power could be supplied by putting solar panels on parking lots and grocery and other store roofs.
In the UK most restaurants don't have car parks, and a good number of us (unsure of the data these days) have groceries delivered. I have walked down to my local Aldi for a few small items, but I have no reason to drive to go shopping - almost everything is bought online.
Excellent stories Robert...you always prove the future is renewable. Best wishes for Christmas🎄 and the NY🎉 for you and the team and families...looking forward to Everything Electric Sydney🖖
If you drove at one go I think it would be near the 400mile range. I think like all EV, everytime you "start" the car, I mean one day to the next, it needs to warm the battery up thus multiple "starts" will effect the range compared to a full on, going the whole distance.
Friend's experience of his Tesla's range is that it doesn't go as far as its stated range. He has a little problem with the old right foot though. But what car ever does reach it's advertised range, BEV or ICEV? Actually, my ID3 PP still does its VW summer stated range = 261 miles or more on a run. It used to do 280 when newish, and I swear if I babied it, it might do near 300. Anyway, that said, if a Tesla M3 LR does 380-400 miles at this time of the year, that's pretty damn good, and surely enough for 99% of potential buyers.
My present car exceeds the EPA highway rating. The one before it also exceeded the EPA highway spec, if the pop up headlights were retracted. Aerodynamics and your right make a difference. But running an ICE engine that was designed for gasoline on E10 cuts about 10% off the resl mpg--as confirmed by many reports to the EPA. If your ICE car is designed with a flex-fuel engine, that loss will be lower, but it is still there.
As illustrated in that little segment, it doesn't matter much at all, as long as the range is decent and the charging is fast and convenient. Basically if you drive a Tesla in populated areas of the First World or China.
I'd be happy with a VW e-up! If there was a charger at work or I could charge at home (don't have a drive or allocated parking or really much luck parking in the same road 😅). Rarely drive more than 100 miles in one go and when I did I wouldn't mind stopping here and there to let the dogs stretch their legs (and me)
Today was a record breaker, 22.54GWp from Wind energy alone. Average was about 10.8GW of wind , solar and Hydro for the last 8 weeks but that includes 2 of the lowest weeks this year. Average for the last 12 months is 11.4GW, 38% of usage.
You’re data re NEW charging points paid by the govt are not those you have quoted. This bill cannot take credit for charge stations made prior to the bill and those not benefiting from said bill.
Early buyers of Tesla cars were offered "energy for life" that is if filling at any of their super charge locations its free. My uncle has that deal, his tesla now has 171k km and 3 years left on warranty.
70GW in the Nullarbor is very impressive, but what are they going to do with it all? It's a really long way from everywhere, even by Australian standards. Have really long cables to Adelaide/Esperance/Perth? Start an Aluminium smelter? make hydrogen on the coast?
Actually, do it all. High Voltage power lines cross country to the cities that need the power. Also, use the lines (Grid) for Battery Storage close to the cities to keep the Grid System stable. I have great trepidation about getting free power for everyone, Argentina instantly comes to mind, the government in charge is A-L-W-A-Y-S leads to very bad consequences. It may be (in appearance) really great for a while, but eventually you end up with total governmental control. Yes, I’m not a socialist, Russia keeps reminding me of exactly why I will never be.
Robert - I hope you get to drive the Eyre Hwy one day. There is an 18 hole golf 'course' along the highway - a hole every 80km or so if you like a hit. Nullarbor Links - The World's Longest Golf Course
The Modern Rogue handle unit conversions (like currency) about the best I've seen. They have a graphic pop up with all the conversions on it. Brian is great, they might share the system they use with you if you ask? Might make it easier as you can just say it once and add almost every conceivable alternative unit in post.
There are so many variables (especially at this time of the year) including the overnight stop. In the summer it would be straightforward, but a few minutes charge over that distance is really no big deal. EVs operate with such a high baseline of efficiency it doesn't take much to nibble away at the ultimate achievable range ... temperature, wind direction, rain, speed, elevation changes over a particular route.
The speed is an important factor. The video indicates long stretches of highway driving, which is high energy use in an EV. Whether you precondition the battery and how strong you set the A/C can also affect the range.
What was brave or right about that presentation? Why would you go down the path of doing what so many other companies did, and failed at, by trying to appeal to a tiny minority of the population and alienating the rest of their customer base? People are getting sick of all this rubbish as we're seeing with various election results imo.
@oldbloke204 their existing customer base is aging , they're rightly trying to raise their appeal in a younger market that can keep buying cars for the next 50 years.
@@morosis82 Sow why are they trying to appeal to that tiny part of the younger market? Just jumping on the same failure of an idea that other virtue signalling numpties have tried imo. Have a look at how the top people in the company behave and their focus. Sort of indicative of all the EV rubbish going on though I suppose.
8:00 If your check the latest report on the program they were complaining about: there are now 192 ports installed on something like 32 sites. The 6 charge port figure was a snapshot in time. There is a lot of lead-time in installing Megawatt scale electrical infrastructure.
I am an avid supporter of renewables and an owner of a Ford Lightning. I was not aware the number was actually at 50% generation of world energy created by renewables/nuclear. This is good news to me also. I really never would have guessed it was that high. Wow
Personally, I'd like a fact check on that. The IEA mid year figures made it more like 30%, with coal still bigger than anything else and gas still huge. 😬
Actually, renewables + nuclear is 40%. Fossil is 60%, renewables 30% and nuclear 10%. I just checked Our World In Data. Figures from 2024 are not reported yet but 2023 it was 39% so it probably crossed 40% this year. It has hovered around 35% for the past 40 years... but it is growing 0.5-1.0% per year now.
What Robert said was Uk is at 50% of electricity from renewables AND other zero energy sources - and the world 30% of electricity from renewables. It's important not to confound Electricity with energy as in the Uk we use more energy direct from fossil fuel burning than we do by converting to electricity - it's our gas and oil boilers and even log burners and coal fires that heat most of us. Of course wind, solar and nuclear all have carbon footprints but as we put more low carbon electricity on the world's grids so the embedded carbon in the installations shrinks in a virtuous cycle.
That shock jock was expressing the frustration that $7.5bn was allocated to charging infrastructure in 2021, but by March 2024 ony 7 stations that the money was put towards had opened. Openings do appear to be accelerating, or at least projects in the works. It's a highlight of government waste and inefficiecy which is a separate issue. The many thousands you refer to being opened are probably Electrify America, funded by VW as punishment for dieselgate. They seem to be extremely unreliable. Public charging has some way to go.
Electrify America isn't meant for reliability. Design to break furthering VW distain of EV. Poor charging experience to turn off EV owners and stop potential buyers. VW only makes enough EV and not a unit more to be in compliance. No fines or credits are needed.
Recent test by Aging Wheels provides at least anecdotal evidence that the state of non-Tesla public charging has gotten much better over the last year.
The money has been allocated and still exists. It’s just that most of the charging infrastructure has not been built expeditiously. It is a falsehood to imply that the money has all been wasted to build only a few stations.
@@geoffreyevans6133Very true! It's the permitting process that takes a long time, but as these get completed, we'll see more public chargers come online.
Non Tesla charging stations getting more reliable (but not fast enough). There are thousands of charging points inside of the USA ! And what’s left over of the allocated is slowly being doled out to many installers, including Tesla. Of all the installations, the Tesla chargers happen (at this time) to be more reliable and easy to use. Charging times are slowly coming down, especially with the newer battery technology.
But the us gov figure of billions is not funding these chargers Robert . You can not include Tesla chargers and other networks in the total….. apples and oranges deal cheap.
@@DeWo-m6q It certainly does my friend, but at one quarter the temperatures of a battery fire. Battery fires are upwards of 2000c which can cause structural steel to collapse which regular car fires cannot achieve. Facts, inconvenient to the idealogues but remain facts nonetheless. The letter from Porsche is to indemnify them from massive legal claims but the facts are they are a fire risk due to poor manufacture and a risk to the owners and those near them should they combust.
@ so does the same thing apply to any battery operated stuff? Phones, laptops, tablets, headphones…. I don’t think your fact (real or not) will put people off EVs.
EV depreciation is horrific and people are suffering financially from buying them more so than ICE cars. FACT. Arnold Clarks, 73 plate Ioniq 6. £54k new, 1 year old, £27k retail, £21950 trade. Eyewatering depreciation in 1 year. Steer clear at all costs.
Thank you for your truth. You seem to be living in a different reality to mine. Why is that? Your concern for others is admirable though - I bet you would make a great neighbour.❤
@@DeWo-m6q 'dem pesky facts. My reality is borne from actual auto industry trade values here in what I like to call the real world. It's all sunshine and rainbows in the EV religion but please do feel free to run your own figures on a 73 plate Ioniq 6 and prove me wrong (because you can't).
In fairness the Aussie project is 70 GW total of wind and solar, whereas i think the Chinese record holder is 20 GW just of wind. Not knocking the Aussie project: in a desert the mix of wind and sun makes total sense. I wonder if the Chinese will add solar to their Gobi desert wind farm?
@@C4rb0neum so efficiency stays the same? i.e. the loss of electricity vs using it straight away. i'm over explaining because i am not sure if i have the right terminology.
The efficiency (energy in vs energy out) stays roughly the same, as does the self-discharge rate (which is very low for lithium batteries). Capacity loss is the only thing you'll notice with an old EV.
The efficiency of the drive train remains the same ... so if you originally achieved 4 miles per kWh you will still get 4 miles per kWh (but the battery will hold a few kWh less). Some EVs that are "performance optimised" models do max out the rate at which electricity can be drawn from the battery pack... and the rate at which power can be drawn from the pack does tend to be related to capacity ... so in that situation it may be that ultimate "standing quarter" acceleration is slightly reduced but you would need timing equipment to be able to tell. Most normal EVs don't max out the pack so it doesn't apply at all.
In Norway the gasoline sale have dropped 12,3% October 2024 - October 2023. And, diesel sales 11,9%. So, Shell recharge is just a matter of survival or not. With over 26% EV's on the road. More than pure gasoline cars, this is making a big impact. In one year, or maybe one and a half, EV's on the road will pass diesel cars, too. And, EV's are NOT fossil cars with big batteries....
If you look at Lazards LCOE, rooftop solar is the most expensive option in terms of cost per kWhr. That's only because it is small scale and therefore doesn't benefit from the logistics associated with large scale mass production. But nonetheless it is avaiable to anyone that wants it and can afford it.
Early cars did a few MPG and needed a service after a few trips. Now they can do up to 60 MPG and have a yearly service. EVs will evolve to be very efficient with a range of 1000 Miles without a service and will charge in 10 minutes.
The 1 GWh battery facility is not a 1 GWh battery, it's a factory for building the enclosures for 2nd life batteries which can produce enough for 1 GWh per year. That's a different company to the 53MWh battery. That company has a total stock of 2 GWh of old batteries to repurpose.
It doesn't make any sense to run cables all the way across the desert for a few recharge stations. The finance involved is being better spent elsewhere, for example developing grid scale recycled batteries No new infrastructure is needed to deliver the diesel fuel, as these trends to be co-located with ICE filling stations. Once the recharge points are financially proven, it will THEN make sense for each station to install it's own wind and solar generation, plus a big battery to cover peak demand (like if a convoy of eVs arrive at once). It's a sensible transition arrangement. And in the meantime I would rather someone has an electric car which was charged by diesel once a year for a long road trip than feeling the need to stick with their ICE car in order to make the annual visit to Aunty Mabel.
Does anyone know how range specifications are arrived at ? Specifically, it is based on 50/50 ratio of city VS highway driving or it more based on 80% city and 20% highway ? Without knowing this, how can we feel informed to accurately estimate the advertised range in our own particular locations?
I think the EPA uses a rolling road in a lab. So no weather challenges, no human drivers. You can say that a 400-mile car will go further than a 300-mile on one charge but it's a comparison, not a guarantee. And I don't suppose the car's aircon and entertainment systems and heated seats etc will be on, so nothing like a long trip on a chilly wet day on the motorway
These "range" figures are standardised measurements depending on the scheme applicable in your own country. eg WLTP, EPA, CLTC, NEDC. If you look at the resulting numbers for the different schemes for a particular model you will see a huge variation. This doesn't mean that one is "correct" and one is "wrong". Within one particular scheme it should facilitate comparison of one model/brand with another. Each scheme uses different standard and proportions of slow/fast driving. They are not very successful at giving the average driver an accurate guide to how much range they will achieve with their own driving pattern. The reality is that EVs are operating at the upper level of efficiency when achieving their optimum range. This means that relatively slight variations in driving conditions will tend to have a significant impact on range. An ICE vehicle in normal conditions throws away most of its energy in the form of heat ... so on a really cold day some of that heat can be used to warm the cabin ... the engine was making that heat anyway so there is no loss to "range" because that energy would have just been dispersed into the outside air if not heating the car. An EV doesn't throw away much energy. It uses its battery power for the motor(s) and if no cabin heating is required all the battery power is used to extend the range. On that very cold day there is little spare heat so it has to use some battery power to heat the cabin ... this reduces the proportion for the motor(s) ... so range is somewhat reduced. So when tested for a quoted "range" this will have to have been at a set temperature. This is just one aspect of variation. Manufacturers are required to use the testing regimes agreed for their country. The idea is that this makes a level playing field.
I. Just want to thank Robert and the entire team for allowing me as US citizen to stay globally. Informed the Highlander and yes, my grandfather was born on the Isle of sky.❤ Please say prayers of success and good health for Sandy Monroe, who is battling cansure?😢
RELIABLE CHARGING will be when charging pads are introduced. Induction makes sense and only about 5% loss over wired. Make it easy and everyone will use it.
Perhaps .. but small percentages, when applied to so many vehicles, add up. For a large country like USA this could add up to hundreds of power stations ... power stations that you wouldn't need if people just plugged in once in a while!
I own a Tesla Model 3 LR but AWD and it’s no problem to get 350 miles per charge without even trying. I got easily 220Wh/mile. Citi driving you can go well below 160Wh/mile that gives you over 400miles of range.
Absolutely correct ... but Robert was testing a specific long distance drive that includes motorway driving not dawdling around city streets! Huge range when staying within a city isn't why people are looking for longer range cars ... we already have cars that can do the mileage needed in cities.
@MrAdopado Yes you are right. Around 50% of my driving are highways up to 80mph. Driving steadily 80mph I got 280Wh/mile so around 270miles range. Driving 70mph it drops to 220Wh/mile and 340miles of range. Winter driving drops of of those values by 20%.
Texas being at the forefront of renewable energy tech installation makes sense - the people in power and in the know could see that the thing they were (are still) famous for:- oil mining (I refuse to call it "production"), was going to run out... hence encouraging Tesla to relocate there and building batteries solar and wind tech at a higher rate than every other state.
Thanks for a great year Robert and all the best to you, your family and the wider FC/EE Teams for a great Xmas and NY.
You missed the U.K. record breaking wind generation, breaking 22GW in early December for the first time and reaching 22.3GW the other night. 👍
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I did too. I'd been thinking we were due another with recent weather and what's come online since last Dec.
I do wonder though if we are actually seeing some generation curtailed at these times, as we're not currently optimally set up (grid and dynamic demand) for being able to absorb all this while needing to maintain perhaps 3GW of gas turbine running.
Roll on more EVs, more smart heat pumps and more storage 🙂
Make that 22.54 GW as of last night.
@@P13CEY wind turbines falling apart due to the storm must give you nightmares.
My National Grid app sent an alert that they think yesterday (18th) broke the record from earlier in the month 22.5GW
Love your positivity and the rants!! Seasons greetings to all of the Fully Charged Crew.
Have had solar at home since 2008. After moving to Arizona from Wisconsin in 2016 installed a larger solar system and have driven a EV since August 2019. Currently producing a surplus of solar electricity of at least 35%.
You wouldn't get that in the UK. Not even in the south, and if like me you live in Northern Ireland. Then solar is about as good as an ashtray on a motorbike. The reason people have it on their roof was the money they could make back or the company that installed them made the money and you got free solar. Anyone I know who has them stated that if you are lucky you can have free p gets at night. And an odd kettle boiled. Arizona now that's a different climate and sun to the UK. Unfortunately not everywhere is suitable for solar. And as a so called genius stated 100 square miles of solar in Arizona would be enough to power all of America. The problem is the batteries and storing the electricity.
Same here in Maine, designed and built an almost-tiny off grid passive solar home nine years ago and never looked back. Tied into the grid two years ago and discovered that I used 864 kwh last year, and produced over 6000. Great to charge my car with the sun!
@@craigmerrow225 what's the sun like in Maine? And how much did the solar cost when you built it?
@@Noneyabusinessokif you google Maine and Northern Ireland, you find the latitude of Maine is 42-47 degrees and NI is 54%. That means you are further from the Equator and therefore closer to the Arctic and would expect both slightly lesser sunlight in strength and quantity.
@zoransarin5411 that's my point, solar panels are no good for NI although there are many who have them. And they got them because of a scheme that came in years ago where they didn't have to pay. And any profits were given to the companies that installed the solar. And the residents would benefit from the savings. Although in summer we have a few good weeks and it stays light until around 11.30 at night in the North west coast. In the south of England it can be beneficial for the people. But NI and Scotland and the North of England see very little sun unless we have a good summer. And the UK can be temperamental.
4% is HUGE. What if next year they do another say 6%. That's already 1/10 of all petrol stations replaced with electric. Then the year after that maybe they streamline the process and do another 10%.
This is the kind of report that makes me happy..... because it's true....
The Chinese desert wind farm at average production would surpass the total yearly electricity consumption of Portugal.
50 years ago Texas was at the leading edge of technology. Calculators and LED watches, specifically Texas Instruments. Seems like they still have some practical electronics skills.
Thanks Robert, great as always. 👍
We ADORE our 5+ year old Tesla Model 3 - though might pass it on to a family member soon I guess (as it’s still as good as new) and update to a new Juniper model Y, better for my old bones and bad joints.
Happy Christmas to you all at Fully Charged. See you next year.
Best show ever - we love a real world range test - Thank You
I enjoyed the positive stories please keep getting the message out, stay well and safe.
good to hear stories from all over the world
Deadset nearly spat my coffee 9:18 when an ad interrupted Robert right in the middle of words" in the world! " Lol the ad was for my local councils green waste bins 😅
I've been watching the "climate shenanigans" for over 2 decades now (I have a post graduate degree in environmental management) and have been growing increasingly despondent at the lack of progress on climate action and more alarmed as impacts intensifies. Your positive news stories are about the only thing keeping hope alive for me - a BIG thank you to you and the team!
I also watch the Just Have A Think channel which recently featured your new website - I'm have already bookmarked it and subscribed to the newsletter. I'm in South Africa and we are way behind the trend. I will probably never own an EV, which does make me feel a little sad. Hopefully I'm still alive after 2035 when - theoretically - the last ICE will roll off the production line... we must organise a BIG global party to celebrate!!!!
@@CitiesForTheFuture2030 I watch both this channel and JHAT too. And have an Environmental Science degree aswell, and both channels do keep hope alive me, so Snap !
I feel your pain
Try listening to 'Cleaning up', 'Watt Matters, 'Volts', 'The Energy Gang', and 'The Interchange'. All Podcasts that follow the energy transition (and you've already discovered 'Just have a think'). Things really are moving quite fast now, and it's pretty clear that energy and ground transport will be largely decarbonised over the next two decades, at least in the developed world. Steel and cement and shipping are showing signs of progress too. Buildings and agriculture still need _a lot_ of work, and what's going to happen in the developing world isn't clear (that's almost entirely about finance, rather than technology).
The last decade has been extremely depressing if you understand the problem and we've got ourselves in a very bad place, but assuming civilisation can hold together a bit longer I feel like we are finally getting somewhere, and most of the money is now going to at least 'better' stuff, if not actually 'good' stuff, and we still have a fighting chance of coming out under 2C and 10 billion people in the end.
Sadly it will be fringe or poor area's that will be most impacted initially, Polar Bear's cannot hunt food as there's no ice but who gives a t*ss in London or New York so long as they can still drive their petrol and diesel cars s*d the rest of the World as they know climate change isn't real, our own MP's drive around in gas guzzlers when they could be in long rang tesla's charged from solar banks and stored energy. Lip service is all we get
@CitiesForTheFuture2030 maybe you can explain. Uk going to spend 22 billion on technology to capture carbon. Wouldn't it be easier to grow plants/trees etc. ?
🎄🌲Happy Christmas Robert and team 🎄🎄
Thank you for your enthusiastic common sense well informed talks
Robert, Kyle with Out of Spec channels in Colorado (U.S.A.) tested the rear wheel drive long range model 3 from 100% till it stops while driving 70mph and it went 486 miles. The weather was however very good and almost no wind. They perform this test on many EVs.
Thank you for a very informative and positive video, it is good to hear someone who knows what they are taking about and are not in the pocket of big oil talking about renewable energy. Happy Christmas from West Australia
This was the most positive and refreshing news broadcast of 2024. Thanks Robert. Wishing you, your wife, and all of the Fully Charged team, the very best for 2025. 🙂👍
Thanks Rober,t Merry Christmas to you too and all at Fully Charged - what thing that wind farm in Australia is going to be
I drove the Nullabor twice (solo) in my Model 3, in 2022. It required a little planning and took about a day longer than most of my 20+ ICE trips (usually 3 days). It gets better every day, and next year we will do it again towing our teardrop caravan.
Happy Christmas and New Year back at you. Thanks, as always, for all your hard work in keeping us amused and informed.
Happy Holidays, and thanks for the good news!
I like the little Kryten figurines in the background, as well as the smeghead (on top of the shelf)
FACT CHECK: The 8 EV chargers figure is accurate. "They" were referring to the number of FEDERALLY FUNDED chargers. Robert's 192,000 figure is the total number of public chargers.
Thanks for the video. Could you tell us what mileage did the Tesla actually manage. Thanks
Where we live 3 year round gas stations have disappeared and the local one is seasonal. Ours is the only local electric car and being liberated from worrying about gas is wonderful.
I’d like to see more Level 2 chargers at restaurants and grocery stores, etc., placed where people stop for over a half hour. Running power to Level 2 chargers isn’t complex. And a lot of that power could be supplied by putting solar panels on parking lots and grocery and other store roofs.
In the UK most restaurants don't have car parks, and a good number of us (unsure of the data these days) have groceries delivered. I have walked down to my local Aldi for a few small items, but I have no reason to drive to go shopping - almost everything is bought online.
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to the entire fully charged/everything electric team.
Merry Christmas to the fully charged team
Have a merry christmas, you and your family Robert 👍👍
Excellent stories Robert...you always prove the future is renewable. Best wishes for Christmas🎄 and the NY🎉 for you and the team and families...looking forward to Everything Electric Sydney🖖
I love these episodes, full of facts and laughter 👌🏻😂👏🏻 subscribed to both channels and love the content and presenters.
Happy Xmas and new year to you and yours
If you drove at one go I think it would be near the 400mile range. I think like all EV, everytime you "start" the car, I mean one day to the next, it needs to warm the battery up thus multiple "starts" will effect the range compared to a full on, going the whole distance.
Lovely job. Have a great break
Friend's experience of his Tesla's range is that it doesn't go as far as its stated range. He has a little problem with the old right foot though. But what car ever does reach it's advertised range, BEV or ICEV? Actually, my ID3 PP still does its VW summer stated range = 261 miles or more on a run. It used to do 280 when newish, and I swear if I babied it, it might do near 300. Anyway, that said, if a Tesla M3 LR does 380-400 miles at this time of the year, that's pretty damn good, and surely enough for 99% of potential buyers.
My present car exceeds the EPA highway rating. The one before it also exceeded the EPA highway spec, if the pop up headlights were retracted. Aerodynamics and your right make a difference. But running an ICE engine that was designed for gasoline on E10 cuts about 10% off the resl mpg--as confirmed by many reports to the EPA. If your ICE car is designed with a flex-fuel engine, that loss will be lower, but it is still there.
Did he ever get the "stated Fuel consumption" on an ICE car?
NOBODY ever tried, if they're honest.
This is normal. If I drive sensibly I can beat the stated range easily, but if I do lots of hard acceleration it won't.
As illustrated in that little segment, it doesn't matter much at all, as long as the range is decent and the charging is fast and convenient. Basically if you drive a Tesla in populated areas of the First World or China.
I'd be happy with a VW e-up! If there was a charger at work or I could charge at home (don't have a drive or allocated parking or really much luck parking in the same road 😅).
Rarely drive more than 100 miles in one go and when I did I wouldn't mind stopping here and there to let the dogs stretch their legs (and me)
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to all at the Fully Charged Show & all those who watch this channel 😀😍🤩 Keep up the great work!
I love your channel. Keep up the good work!
How much electricity has been produced in the last 8 weeks from renewables here in the uk ?
Today was a record breaker, 22.54GWp from Wind energy alone. Average was about 10.8GW of wind , solar and Hydro for the last 8 weeks but that includes 2 of the lowest weeks this year. Average for the last 12 months is 11.4GW, 38% of usage.
Fossil fuel is down to under 28% of generation in the last 12 months
Just saw the model of the BYD seal on the top shelf ,where it should be!
Another great video keep up the great work
I really enjoy and value your ABN videos - thanks & Happy Christmas. 🎅
Redwood materials process batteries which will be then create new batteries. Teslas new batteries will last a lot longer than 15 years.
Awesome video thank you 🙏
Loving this semi scripted presentation style Robert. Best wishes for you and yours for the coming year.
You’re data re NEW charging points paid by the govt are not those you have quoted. This bill cannot take credit for charge stations made prior to the bill and those not benefiting from said bill.
Thanks Old Man. See you next year. Stay safe.
i cycled across the eyre highway in 2011, it was hot and loads of fun.
by the way what is the advised motor-way mileage ? I m sure that its less than normal daily urban driving.. and you should know that.. :D
Early buyers of Tesla cars were offered "energy for life" that is if filling at any of their super charge locations its free. My uncle has that deal, his tesla now has 171k km and 3 years left on warranty.
Love your show and of course subscribed.
For the model 3 test it was probably phantom battery drain over the two days you stayed that likely lost you that 20-30 miles or so
Phantom drain is virtually zero if Sentry is off so the car can sleep.
thanks Robert for all your videos l
We've had a NX for 2 years and only found out sbout the reason for the 8 beeps last week from someone in the service department 😅
70GW in the Nullarbor is very impressive, but what are they going to do with it all? It's a really long way from everywhere, even by Australian standards. Have really long cables to Adelaide/Esperance/Perth? Start an Aluminium smelter? make hydrogen on the coast?
Yeah, I too wondered about that. Making hydrogen and green ammonia is apparently the plan.
Actually, do it all. High Voltage power lines cross country to the cities that need the power. Also, use the lines (Grid) for Battery Storage close to the cities to keep the Grid System stable. I have great trepidation about getting free power for everyone, Argentina instantly comes to mind, the government in charge is A-L-W-A-Y-S leads to very bad consequences. It may be (in appearance) really great for a while, but eventually you end up with total governmental control. Yes, I’m not a socialist, Russia keeps reminding me of exactly why I will never be.
Robert - I hope you get to drive the Eyre Hwy one day. There is an 18 hole golf 'course' along the highway - a hole every 80km or so if you like a hit. Nullarbor Links - The World's Longest Golf Course
The Modern Rogue handle unit conversions (like currency) about the best I've seen. They have a graphic pop up with all the conversions on it. Brian is great, they might share the system they use with you if you ask? Might make it easier as you can just say it once and add almost every conceivable alternative unit in post.
So what is the conclusion from the range test? 400 miles didn’t work but how many could you get? 380?
There are so many variables (especially at this time of the year) including the overnight stop. In the summer it would be straightforward, but a few minutes charge over that distance is really no big deal. EVs operate with such a high baseline of efficiency it doesn't take much to nibble away at the ultimate achievable range ... temperature, wind direction, rain, speed, elevation changes over a particular route.
The speed is an important factor. The video indicates long stretches of highway driving, which is high energy use in an EV. Whether you precondition the battery and how strong you set the A/C can also affect the range.
Jaguar are doing a very brave and, more importantly, _right_ thing. They can't just keep on as they are. They're going to have to innovate!
Yeah I reckon this too. It might be painful short term for them but I think they're a company that really understands that it needs to evolve or die.
What was brave or right about that presentation?
Why would you go down the path of doing what so many other companies did, and failed at, by trying to appeal to a tiny minority of the population and alienating the rest of their customer base?
People are getting sick of all this rubbish as we're seeing with various election results imo.
@oldbloke204 their existing customer base is aging , they're rightly trying to raise their appeal in a younger market that can keep buying cars for the next 50 years.
@@morosis82 Sow why are they trying to appeal to that tiny part of the younger market?
Just jumping on the same failure of an idea that other virtue signalling numpties have tried imo.
Have a look at how the top people in the company behave and their focus.
Sort of indicative of all the EV rubbish going on though I suppose.
@@oldbloke204what "tiny part of the market" are you referring to, and where's your market research to validate your claims?
8:00 If your check the latest report on the program they were complaining about:
there are now 192 ports installed on something like 32 sites.
The 6 charge port figure was a snapshot in time.
There is a lot of lead-time in installing Megawatt scale electrical infrastructure.
I am an avid supporter of renewables and an owner of a Ford Lightning. I was not aware the number was actually at 50% generation of world energy created by renewables/nuclear. This is good news to me also. I really never would have guessed it was that high. Wow
Personally, I'd like a fact check on that. The IEA mid year figures made it more like 30%, with coal still bigger than anything else and gas still huge. 😬
@@GregHarveyUK I doubted it also. Then I did some googling. My Google search supported it.
Actually, renewables + nuclear is 40%. Fossil is 60%, renewables 30% and nuclear 10%. I just checked Our World In Data. Figures from 2024 are not reported yet but 2023 it was 39% so it probably crossed 40% this year. It has hovered around 35% for the past 40 years... but it is growing 0.5-1.0% per year now.
What Robert said was Uk is at 50% of electricity from renewables AND other zero energy sources - and the world 30% of electricity from renewables. It's important not to confound Electricity with energy as in the Uk we use more energy direct from fossil fuel burning than we do by converting to electricity - it's our gas and oil boilers and even log burners and coal fires that heat most of us. Of course wind, solar and nuclear all have carbon footprints but as we put more low carbon electricity on the world's grids so the embedded carbon in the installations shrinks in a virtuous cycle.
@@kevinsmith3343 No, he very much put emphasis on 51% being the global number.
Good news Robert!
100% Optimistic!...Funny (nice editing)
Did you enquire if your old Leaf battery ended up at the Johan Cruyf? That'd be a good brag.
All the best to you and yours. Would be nice to see some Canadian content in the new year. Granted, there will likely be little to report.
That shock jock was expressing the frustration that $7.5bn was allocated to charging infrastructure in 2021, but by March 2024 ony 7 stations that the money was put towards had opened. Openings do appear to be accelerating, or at least projects in the works. It's a highlight of government waste and inefficiecy which is a separate issue. The many thousands you refer to being opened are probably Electrify America, funded by VW as punishment for dieselgate. They seem to be extremely unreliable. Public charging has some way to go.
Electrify America isn't meant for reliability. Design to break furthering VW distain of EV. Poor charging experience to turn off EV owners and stop potential buyers. VW only makes enough EV and not a unit more to be in compliance. No fines or credits are needed.
Recent test by Aging Wheels provides at least anecdotal evidence that the state of non-Tesla public charging has gotten much better over the last year.
The money has been allocated and still exists. It’s just that most of the charging infrastructure has not been built expeditiously. It is a falsehood to imply that the money has all been wasted to build only a few stations.
@@geoffreyevans6133Very true! It's the permitting process that takes a long time, but as these get completed, we'll see more public chargers come online.
Non Tesla charging stations getting more reliable (but not fast enough). There are thousands of charging points inside of the USA ! And what’s left over of the allocated is slowly being doled out to many installers, including Tesla. Of all the installations, the Tesla chargers happen (at this time) to be more reliable and easy to use. Charging times are slowly coming down, especially with the newer battery technology.
9:37 70GW who's buying and how is it shipped there?
big A``trucks..
But the us gov figure of billions is not funding these chargers Robert . You can not include Tesla chargers and other networks in the total….. apples and oranges deal cheap.
Thanks ❤
The Jaguar looks more like a car from the 1920s
See Porsche have written to EV owners telling them not to charge near their houses or in underground spaces due to fire risk.
Is that cos petrol doesn’t burn?
@@DeWo-m6q It certainly does my friend, but at one quarter the temperatures of a battery fire. Battery fires are upwards of 2000c which can cause structural steel to collapse which regular car fires cannot achieve. Facts, inconvenient to the idealogues but remain facts nonetheless. The letter from Porsche is to indemnify them from massive legal claims but the facts are they are a fire risk due to poor manufacture and a risk to the owners and those near them should they combust.
@ so does the same thing apply to any battery operated stuff? Phones, laptops, tablets, headphones…. I don’t think your fact (real or not) will put people off EVs.
Thank you for your optimism!
I love it when Robert is so positive. Wait. Was that actually Robert?
AI generated Robert?
@@davidrichardson2681 Video generated Robert?
Great news... 🙂 Honest news.. thank you..
EV depreciation is horrific and people are suffering financially from buying them more so than ICE cars. FACT. Arnold Clarks, 73 plate Ioniq 6. £54k new, 1 year old, £27k retail, £21950 trade. Eyewatering depreciation in 1 year. Steer clear at all costs.
Thank you for your truth. You seem to be living in a different reality to mine. Why is that? Your concern for others is admirable though - I bet you would make a great neighbour.❤
@@DeWo-m6q 'dem pesky facts. My reality is borne from actual auto industry trade values here in what I like to call the real world. It's all sunshine and rainbows in the EV religion but please do feel free to run your own figures on a 73 plate Ioniq 6 and prove me wrong (because you can't).
@EVRealFacts so…… buy secondhand and it’s double win-win. Surely that is a better takeaway from your amazing fact than ‘steer-clear’.
In fairness the Aussie project is 70 GW total of wind and solar, whereas i think the Chinese record holder is 20 GW just of wind.
Not knocking the Aussie project: in a desert the mix of wind and sun makes total sense. I wonder if the Chinese will add solar to their Gobi desert wind farm?
question: as a battery degrades is it just the capacity that's reduced? does the the efficiency stay the same?
Yes less capacity and slightly less power
@@C4rb0neum so efficiency stays the same? i.e. the loss of electricity vs using it straight away. i'm over explaining because i am not sure if i have the right terminology.
The efficiency (energy in vs energy out) stays roughly the same, as does the self-discharge rate (which is very low for lithium batteries). Capacity loss is the only thing you'll notice with an old EV.
The efficiency of the drive train remains the same ... so if you originally achieved 4 miles per kWh you will still get 4 miles per kWh (but the battery will hold a few kWh less). Some EVs that are "performance optimised" models do max out the rate at which electricity can be drawn from the battery pack... and the rate at which power can be drawn from the pack does tend to be related to capacity ... so in that situation it may be that ultimate "standing quarter" acceleration is slightly reduced but you would need timing equipment to be able to tell. Most normal EVs don't max out the pack so it doesn't apply at all.
Australia needs more reliable charging infrastructure. A lot more.
In Norway the gasoline sale have dropped 12,3% October 2024 - October 2023.
And, diesel sales 11,9%.
So, Shell recharge is just a matter of survival or not.
With over 26% EV's on the road. More than pure gasoline cars, this is making a big impact. In one year, or maybe one and a half, EV's on the road will pass diesel cars, too.
And, EV's are NOT fossil cars with big batteries....
Why not generate solar on residential and commercial (factories, warehouses. supermarkets and carparks) where it's needed?
Google Lazard’s LCoE. Rooftop solar is good, it it is expensive due to its limited size.
Gosh, that’s brilliant! Just imagine if people could put solar panels on their roof… just like about a quarter of my neighbours.
Because it’s consumed behind the meter and not taxed which makes electricity retailers sad and angry
If you look at Lazards LCOE, rooftop solar is the most expensive option in terms of cost per kWhr. That's only because it is small scale and therefore doesn't benefit from the logistics associated with large scale mass production. But nonetheless it is avaiable to anyone that wants it and can afford it.
Early cars did a few MPG and needed a service after a few trips. Now they can do up to 60 MPG and have a yearly service. EVs will evolve to be very efficient with a range of 1000 Miles without a service and will charge in 10 minutes.
The 1 GWh battery facility is not a 1 GWh battery, it's a factory for building the enclosures for 2nd life batteries which can produce enough for 1 GWh per year. That's a different company to the 53MWh battery. That company has a total stock of 2 GWh of old batteries to repurpose.
excellent
The ev chargers on the NULLABOR, are diesel powered, room for change?
It doesn't make any sense to run cables all the way across the desert for a few recharge stations. The finance involved is being better spent elsewhere, for example developing grid scale recycled batteries
No new infrastructure is needed to deliver the diesel fuel, as these trends to be co-located with ICE filling stations.
Once the recharge points are financially proven, it will THEN make sense for each station to install it's own wind and solar generation, plus a big battery to cover peak demand (like if a convoy of eVs arrive at once).
It's a sensible transition arrangement. And in the meantime I would rather someone has an electric car which was charged by diesel once a year for a long road trip than feeling the need to stick with their ICE car in order to make the annual visit to Aunty Mabel.
No doubt they will be replaced with solar as time progresses.
Solar/wind with battery storage seems the obvious.
Hehe love the top gear reference 👍
THANKS ROBERT,FOR SHARING POSITIVE + CONTENT 🤗⚡️⚡️⚡️
Charging more than petrol to charge electric on the roads…. As an EV owner its laughable actually.
4% is still no small number, when it comes to Big Oil letting go of something.
I'm a young old Jag driver. 3 litre twin turbo powerrrrrr, and it makes me sad that they're not just making an ev-xf
Does anyone know how range specifications are arrived at ?
Specifically, it is based on 50/50 ratio of city VS highway driving or it more based on
80% city and 20% highway ?
Without knowing this, how can we feel informed to accurately estimate
the advertised range in our own particular locations?
I think the EPA uses a rolling road in a lab. So no weather challenges, no human drivers. You can say that a 400-mile car will go further than a 300-mile on one charge but it's a comparison, not a guarantee. And I don't suppose the car's aircon and entertainment systems and heated seats etc will be on, so nothing like a long trip on a chilly wet day on the motorway
These "range" figures are standardised measurements depending on the scheme applicable in your own country. eg WLTP, EPA, CLTC, NEDC. If you look at the resulting numbers for the different schemes for a particular model you will see a huge variation. This doesn't mean that one is "correct" and one is "wrong". Within one particular scheme it should facilitate comparison of one model/brand with another. Each scheme uses different standard and proportions of slow/fast driving. They are not very successful at giving the average driver an accurate guide to how much range they will achieve with their own driving pattern. The reality is that EVs are operating at the upper level of efficiency when achieving their optimum range. This means that relatively slight variations in driving conditions will tend to have a significant impact on range.
An ICE vehicle in normal conditions throws away most of its energy in the form of heat ... so on a really cold day some of that heat can be used to warm the cabin ... the engine was making that heat anyway so there is no loss to "range" because that energy would have just been dispersed into the outside air if not heating the car. An EV doesn't throw away much energy. It uses its battery power for the motor(s) and if no cabin heating is required all the battery power is used to extend the range. On that very cold day there is little spare heat so it has to use some battery power to heat the cabin ... this reduces the proportion for the motor(s) ... so range is somewhat reduced. So when tested for a quoted "range" this will have to have been at a set temperature. This is just one aspect of variation.
Manufacturers are required to use the testing regimes agreed for their country. The idea is that this makes a level playing field.
Is there any chance the news videos can be added to a playlist as i find these vids the most interesting on the channel?
Please come back to Hastings soon, always welcome
The “But hey now!” Part of the edit was inspired.
I do love your intro sequence
nice job
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Just want to thank Robert and the entire team for allowing me as US citizen to stay globally. Informed the Highlander and yes, my grandfather was born on the Isle of sky.❤ Please say prayers of success and good health for Sandy Monroe, who is battling cansure?😢
RELIABLE CHARGING will be when charging pads are introduced. Induction makes sense and only about 5% loss over wired. Make it easy and everyone will use it.
Perhaps .. but small percentages, when applied to so many vehicles, add up. For a large country like USA this could add up to hundreds of power stations ... power stations that you wouldn't need if people just plugged in once in a while!
I now understand why the shoes are on the shelf
I own a Tesla Model 3 LR but AWD and it’s no problem to get 350 miles per charge without even trying. I got easily 220Wh/mile. Citi driving you can go well below 160Wh/mile that gives you over 400miles of range.
Absolutely correct ... but Robert was testing a specific long distance drive that includes motorway driving not dawdling around city streets! Huge range when staying within a city isn't why people are looking for longer range cars ... we already have cars that can do the mileage needed in cities.
@MrAdopado Yes you are right. Around 50% of my driving are highways up to 80mph. Driving steadily 80mph I got 280Wh/mile so around 270miles range. Driving 70mph it drops to 220Wh/mile and 340miles of range. Winter driving drops of of those values by 20%.
Texas being at the forefront of renewable energy tech installation makes sense -
the people in power and in the know could see that the thing they were (are still) famous for:- oil mining (I refuse to call it "production"), was going to run out...
hence encouraging Tesla to relocate there and building batteries solar and wind tech at a higher rate than every other state.