Am watching from the uk , my wife always say why do you listen to this case every time from SA till now, my answer is that I feel for Ntanzi he has nothing to do with this
@@jimjames9305 Brother James. I feel so helpless. I want to help but I feel stuck. Imagine your whole getting ripped out of your hands in a flash bcos someone is corrupt!
All of them nothing to do with this case, even that Sibiya is there because of this case, even the Tembisa one was just some kind cooking to be sentence 10 years, I'm glad that this case opens plenty people eyes about corrupt judiciary system we've as country.
@@siviwembatane3600I have been saying the same that both 1 and 2 had no previous cases before they met Gininda’s team unfortunately Sibiya was unlucky to be found guilty in the other nonsense case
Hi Mzansi Fam The case docket was stacked in Advocate Andrew Chauke's office at some point gathering dust. When asked by Miya ( Senzon's cousin) in one of the consultative meetings; the Advocate ( Andrew Chauke) said he was scared of his life, and if I am quoting Miya correctly he said "I've never seen such a senior Advocate being scared and terrified of the police; a whole senior prosecutor sheding a tear because of the police" I guess that's what eventually led to the docket being transferred from South to North Gauteng DPP's office. It was a precalculated and predetermined move!
Family do u remember when we started with this case from day 1 Mr Baloyi said the state got more than 200 witnesses 🤣🤣🤣🤣so what happened to them🤷🤷🤷🤷all the state witnesses are EXPECTS 👋👋👋👋ijoooo haikhona akuhambanga Kahle
*1:51:53** WOW! THE SECOND MALE CALLER; THOUGH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND A ZULU LANGUAGE BUT I'VE MANAGED TO CAPTURE A SENSE OF WHAT HE WAS ALLUDING ABOUT SENZO MEYIWA MURDER TRIAL IN THAT COURT. "A ZULU LANGUAGE IS SO VIBRANT HOW ONE CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES DEEPLY ON HOW THEY FEEL. I'M IN LOVE WITH A ZULU LANGUAGE".* ❤️👍🇿🇦 ❤️👍🇿🇦
Why was Ratha appointed for this case while he had already retired , this was a red flag of shenanigans happening in this high court , what a mockery of justice
There is nothing wrong with appointing retired judges..if the case was given to a sitting judge it was gonna take longer than this as the sitting judge would b having other cases to deal with..at least judge Ratha's only focus is this case.
@@sirbujamiellie3686 that’s why we want that old man to come and testify coz it’s not making sense at all. And am sure that man doesn’t even know wats happening
I decided to stop following this case because it was draining me, i couldn't keep up with that mess...atleast now ngath kyavela..i still maintain my views , there were no intruders there
Looool about the exam? Unisa as I'm studying with them now honours , you get exams timetable probably three weeks before exams 😂😂😂😂so nje leka brother Ginida
From my view.. if u listen to the confessions they don't give too much details... The news of intruders demanding cellphones was out there in the news .. thats why it matches those confessions.
What makes everyone say that those in the house are the ones. 1/ cleaning the scene. 2/ taking dead body to hospital without calling any help they choose to call chico what was the issue which made kk call chico instead of Senzo the coming of chico to the hospital not seeing family of Senzo as a parent didn’t even call them to assist kk as she was working together.why kk didn’t want to give statements at court choosed to say mother is there /where she was going which made her stands for Senzo kunengi
I still remember that zungu said he was with accused in vosloorus the day senzo was murdered nd where was his father that time amanga awa hlangani ne qiniso this is cooking true.
This case will still gonna take a different turn as for now we are listening to one side story or maybe let me say still listening to producer of this movie boMakhubo they will debark this very soon...
The reason Gininda is struggling with the word "corroborate" is because in South African law, a confession must be corroborated by independent evidence in order to secure a conviction. As a law student himself, he is aware of this; hence, he is pushing to "collobarate" the confessions, which, in my opinion, are very shaky.
He is failing dismally. Nothing is coming together. Sibiya's confession should be thrown out solely on the basis that what he is accused of confessing was not true
Am asking myself what is Kelly and gonna say to her daughter uma ekhula cos she's been holding the truth, because lengane izolazi iqiniso and kuzoba buhlungu cos no amount of explanation azoyenza u(Kelly) will make lomntwana to understand ukuthi why umawakhe engakhulumanga iqiniso sonke leskhathi but ke asazi , uyayazi into ayenzayo so sad 😪 😔
Hi Family , what judge gogo did with Zungu typed vs hand written statements it's out of this world , without Zungu's typed statement Gininda was going to be in trouble .
Supreme court of appeals is watching this case, jst hope that Judge Ratha will not call them when this case goes to appeal coz Ratha's phone can call anyone in South Africa
@@ziblospoi think he was referring to that aspect they were arguing about not the judgement.. do u remember oscar pristorioys' s case where two concept were argued abt.. whether the murder of Rever was dolus indirectus or dolus eventualis...
Gininda will keep on explaining himself to cover his lies...he will do it until Jesus comes and it is very crystal clear that he came to cover himself. He end up contradicting himself from what he said before.
Good morning.....m very bored with this movie......just listen to your deliberations.so one can only see that a guilty verdict is out already....so we will be waiting for an appeal
The ruling on both confessions is not final that's why judge gogo didn't even give us his reasons and after opening those confessions , the confessions of accused 1 must be thrown out of that court and it shows that the accused was not free that's why he lied several times , so baloyoi n Gininda cannot pick and choose what to believe from that confession.
as for Gininda's any person with dreadlocks light skinned short in south africa is a senzo meyiwa suspect that why they even suspected umgqumeni esafela
That person with dreads so far nothing connects him with the crime scene. They arrested a person with dreads and he was wrongfully arrested now he is suing the state.
They are wicked. The wicked have no rest! Hence they run around at night trying to close loopholes. Composing affidavits left right and centre, bana ba baloi.
Remember they arrested another dread lock guy arrested ...wrongly And now his life is upside down in a mess....flip the facts that Gininda come with This court confuse me seriously...who is the judge and who is the prosecutor ?
Why gininda doesn't bring proof of payment in court?to show that indeed Kelly is Muster mind..so there were intruders tomorrow what happened to the 5 it will come to one of us it is sad
gininda source is Zungu...zungu said he was with them at hostel ..the 5 came and ran to Gwabini's room...Now Sibiya shown them where he was dropped off after incident..he gininda colborate this 2 different as a fact bafeth ayi
University topic : I promise you those wits/stellenbosch/ ufs are not stingy with their qualifications depending on the colour of your skin…
It's a pathetic, nauseating hot mess. It's beyond embarrassing😢😢😢
Good morning family.
I just love Emily’s voice,U should try Radio Mama .I also love the job that you are doing guys. Greatness to you always.
I love it too, and her calmness
Both of em... Mr anonymous can fit Ku East coast or Metro his bass is cool
@@nzuzationyou’re spot on👌
She's beautiful, and smart ❤😊
The plain truth is these accused where tortured to sign the written script period
Am watching from the uk , my wife always say why do you listen to this case every time from SA till now, my answer is that I feel for Ntanzi he has nothing to do with this
Brother James, this case is heartbreaking!
@@nette2144 Eish am really hurt inside it’s like it’s me in that dock. Have you seen how Ntanzi looks at that stupid Gininda
@@jimjames9305 Brother James. I feel so helpless. I want to help but I feel stuck. Imagine your whole getting ripped out of your hands in a flash bcos someone is corrupt!
All of them nothing to do with this case, even that Sibiya is there because of this case, even the Tembisa one was just some kind cooking to be sentence 10 years, I'm glad that this case opens plenty people eyes about corrupt judiciary system we've as country.
@@siviwembatane3600I have been saying the same that both 1 and 2 had no previous cases before they met Gininda’s team unfortunately Sibiya was unlucky to be found guilty in the other nonsense case
Thanks
❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏 God bless you Tsidy.
Hi Mzansi Fam
The case docket was stacked in Advocate Andrew Chauke's office at some point gathering dust. When asked by Miya ( Senzon's cousin) in one of the consultative meetings; the Advocate ( Andrew Chauke) said he was scared of his life, and if I am quoting Miya correctly he said "I've never seen such a senior Advocate being scared and terrified of the police; a whole senior prosecutor sheding a tear because of the police"
I guess that's what eventually led to the docket being transferred from South to North Gauteng DPP's office. It was a precalculated and predetermined move!
Indeed I was watching him on Igagasi Fm
@@nomawethumqina3270please share a link, I will watch it myself, this case is bigger than Ratha...
Thank you so much Mr Anonymous and Emily. We are up to date with this case because of you❤
I really cannot watch the live verdict 😢
Thank you 😊
🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
You guys are so great
Keep on doing the good job
❤
Family do u remember when we started with this case from day 1 Mr Baloyi said the state got more than 200 witnesses 🤣🤣🤣🤣so what happened to them🤷🤷🤷🤷all the state witnesses are EXPECTS 👋👋👋👋ijoooo haikhona akuhambanga Kahle
*1:51:53** WOW! THE SECOND MALE CALLER; THOUGH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND A ZULU LANGUAGE BUT I'VE MANAGED TO CAPTURE A SENSE OF WHAT HE WAS ALLUDING ABOUT SENZO MEYIWA MURDER TRIAL IN THAT COURT. "A ZULU LANGUAGE IS SO VIBRANT HOW ONE CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES DEEPLY ON HOW THEY FEEL. I'M IN LOVE WITH A ZULU LANGUAGE".* ❤️👍🇿🇦 ❤️👍🇿🇦
He hit the nail on the head😊
He nailed it
Mr Ano and Emily you're so humble to your callers in advising them to lower the voice in the background when making a call. 👍👍 🇿🇦 👍👍
Big up mzansi realty tv keep up the good work 👌
Ermily, keep up that beauty. Gininda ndimyam zonda.
I CONQUER AND APPRECIATE THE FIRST FEMALE CALLER; SHE ALWAYS EXPRESS AND DISSECT THIS TRIAL IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE WAY.
Oh yes she does. Mr G is really peeing on us making us believe it's raining👌👌
Yes Makhubo had the copy of original docket
Hi Emily & Mr Anonymous
Baloi try by all means to defeat what Makhubo discovered and Buthelezi but Gininda bring hearsay testimony so embracing 😮😮😮
Gininda is an embarrassment
A major one indeed
To the whole Security fratenity
Yhuuuu lotata nonyanakhe uGinyinjaaa hay shem bandiphathisa u number 2,hay ngeke sana.love u guys always 😊
Judge uyamazi uGininda kuthi uyingozi manje kwamele avumelane naye.
Why was Ratha appointed for this case while he had already retired , this was a red flag of shenanigans happening in this high court , what a mockery of justice
Indeed! We have educated fresh young judges in South Africa
There is nothing wrong with appointing retired judges..if the case was given to a sitting judge it was gonna take longer than this as the sitting judge would b having other cases to deal with..at least judge Ratha's only focus is this case.
@@papatnyatoro yyha true he only focus on this case only to be witness and corrupt this case to sentence this innocent souls 🙆🙆🙆🙆
Let us click the button as soon as you open the channel mzansi morning fans.
I greet you'll our leadership Emely and Mr anno
Congratulations to Dr Sibanda. Maybe judge Ratha is going to start showing some respect to Sibanda ngoba ayi ubengamuzwisisi.
Morning Gang
My question would be why did Zungu the son needed his father to give the names of the accused if he was partying with them
That absalom zungu shd be called by the defence, we know he is going to crack this case
Ukhamba lifuza imbiza , Zungu senior will also lie, like father like son unfortunately 😔
Imagine I'm thinking that old man was asked names indirect not knowing his motive allegedly 😅
@@sirbujamiellie3686 that’s why we want that old man to come and testify coz it’s not making sense at all. And am sure that man doesn’t even know wats happening
Gininza is lost shem
Even GPS can't re-route him back. O timetse go timela shem
In a round hut 🛖
I decided to stop following this case because it was draining me, i couldn't keep up with that mess...atleast now ngath kyavela..i still maintain my views , there were no intruders there
Mzansi reality my home,where I get clarity not confusion 👌👌
Gininda's new word is "collobarate"😂😂😂 and you are correct Emily, the correct word is corroborate.
English running away from our LLB important exam writer. It is corroborate , that is what he is meant to say.
How did Sibiya know the bathroom and bedroom of the SPAZA house
Hei thus my view 😂jo this one was worse than all lies.This one mm,it was worse
😂😂😂 very good point
I laughed hearing that, and said Gininda is exposing himself of lies
😂😂😂. You can ask again
Explain how the sane pictures of money appears in Twallas, KK and accuse nr 3??😮
Excellent observation
The police had the 3 phones at some point😂
Will mkhulu Zungu live long to come & testify in the court? Cause wow! Many witnesses are already gone. Allegedly
I wonder who was killing those witnesses
Zungu said he was with accused. Jikijiki his father told him. What is the truth🫢
he must come, phela is it the inception of this whole nganekwane. according to the LLB exam writer.
@@ziblospo and Gininda said Zungu said he cant rely on his father's hearsay hence his father need to write a statement, so what is what here?
@@ziblospoThus insanity of Gininda Baloyi & Zwe Zungu
*30:02** EMILY, I STILL ENJOY YOUR WAY OF LAUGHING: YOU START WITH A RELAXED FACE THEN YOU TOP IT WITH A HAPPY SMILE!!* 😂👍
😂😂😂🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Advocate baloyi was an acting DPP at tht time. So baloyi is gininda's right hand man
La Unisa andiyinqondi
Looool about the exam? Unisa as I'm studying with them now honours , you get exams timetable probably three weeks before exams 😂😂😂😂so nje leka brother Ginida
South Africa udoti lamaphoyisa kodwa siwathembe kanjani kodwa njengomphakathi
From my view.. if u listen to the confessions they don't give too much details... The news of intruders demanding cellphones was out there in the news .. thats why it matches those confessions.
Good morning my family just pushed a like will catch up later
This case is a slow poison eating us bit by bit
Hence i decided to unfollow it....this case drained me tjoooooo
It's cancerous but we keep going. It's soooo sad😢
Gininda is also to be awarded an LLB by UNISA. How interesting this development might be?
😂😂😂yeah now understand why he didn’t want to come and testify 😂, exams was just an excuse 😂. Gininda and his friend must be arrested. 🚮🚮
Emily🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I see where u going please don't go there ijooo I'm finished the standard of but congratulations are in order 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤❤❤❤❤❤
What makes everyone say that those in the house are the ones. 1/ cleaning the scene. 2/ taking dead body to hospital without calling any help they choose to call chico what was the issue which made kk call chico instead of Senzo the coming of chico to the hospital not seeing family of Senzo as a parent didn’t even call them to assist kk as she was working together.why kk didn’t want to give statements at court choosed to say mother is there /where she was going which made her stands for Senzo kunengi
Because she is the mastermind
It's a lot
I still remember that zungu said he was with accused in vosloorus the day senzo was murdered nd where was his father that time amanga awa hlangani ne qiniso this is cooking true.
Gininzdi a hs from Zimbabwe guys , Pretoria police izingebengu zonke yooo
I thought so
Ginindza from Swatini not Zimbabwe
@@judithmukonyora7096 he must go home he's English is different from us
I see gininda testifying until end of October...
Until end of Jan 2025
No until nxt year January
@@thusoramakobya7054 until next year wait n see
Confession was taken long after the incident.Sibiya knew the story by then.He knew the story after reading in the media😂
Nģinyinja thirsty for shine and light 😂😂😂
This case will still gonna take a different turn as for now we are listening to one side story or maybe let me say still listening to producer of this movie boMakhubo they will debark this very soon...
It goes on to the country Mr Anonymous. One cannot not think "sifika kanjani lana?" Ilala kanjani ijustice system singalele.. ...😢???
😂😂😂😂
Thank you guys for the splendid job well done. I was moved by the second caller. The lest said about the judge the better 😢
mr kho-lo-berate is just narrating and directing his own movie as a court case witness
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Evening Family
Uyishaya kanjani inkabi ngemfaduko ngempela? Yooo😂😂😂
@thembisilehadebe 😂😂 I’m speechless shame
Tell us about Mr subsequently cooking
If not so they're suppose to be eye witnesses since they didn't commit the crime
7:25 nam ndi worried Emily 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The reason Gininda is struggling with the word "corroborate" is because in South African law, a confession must be corroborated by independent evidence in order to secure a conviction. As a law student himself, he is aware of this; hence, he is pushing to "collobarate" the confessions, which, in my opinion, are very shaky.
He is failing dismally. Nothing is coming together. Sibiya's confession should be thrown out solely on the basis that what he is accused of confessing was not true
Very soon, Ginger will also be a Major General in the 1 man, 2 ladies, Cold Cases Department.
M here with my glass of something can't sleep I lost my spiritual father today to be honest m not coping
Portia condolences, may the lord comfort you.
Condolences 💔
Awwww. Sending you love and light❤❤❤😢😢😢
Condolences...
Am asking myself what is Kelly and gonna say to her daughter uma ekhula cos she's been holding the truth, because lengane izolazi iqiniso and kuzoba buhlungu cos no amount of explanation azoyenza u(Kelly) will make lomntwana to understand ukuthi why umawakhe engakhulumanga iqiniso sonke leskhathi but ke asazi , uyayazi into ayenzayo so sad 😪 😔
Hi Family , what judge gogo did with Zungu typed vs hand written statements it's out of this world , without Zungu's typed statement Gininda was going to be in trouble .
Supreme court of appeals is watching this case, jst hope that Judge Ratha will not call them when this case goes to appeal coz Ratha's phone can call anyone in South Africa
Wa tseba mara!!!!! Yoh!
Ratha once said they'll not win even on appeal though he didn't say it directly
@@ziblospo loooorl 🤣🤣 if they will be appealing at home house they will not win
😂😂😂
@@ziblospoi think he was referring to that aspect they were arguing about not the judgement.. do u remember oscar pristorioys' s case where two concept were argued abt.. whether the murder of Rever was dolus indirectus or dolus eventualis...
It's surprising why Sibiya(who was outside according to the confession)also let Longwe go away not knowing if he was going to get help or what 🤷♀️
I AM FED-UP LIKE MR ANONYMOUS, I WILL LISTEN TO THE CROSS-EXAMINATION AS FOR LISTENING TO GININDA I WILL NOT😡😡😡
Gininda will keep on explaining himself to cover his lies...he will do it until Jesus comes and it is very crystal clear that he came to cover himself. He end up contradicting himself from what he said before.
Good morning my Famili ♥️
Mina I'm waiting for ginninda to tell us abt mjiyako part
Defence must also call Makhimba/Makho
and Kelly
arent they late? Gininda said he has a death certificate.
@@sthembilemdluli3909 one of them is late. Before bo Ntanzi they wanted to pin the murder to the one alive, He was tortured to frame to other people.
Morning Family ❤❤❤
Gininda is COLLOBARATING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 , ey leya court iyihlathi, ihlulwa eyesgodi sakithi ehlala phansi komganu
Lomntu lowo ubhala LLB 😅😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Nolubabalo734😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kanjani ubaloyi ibuza ugininda imibuzo okumele abuze umakhubo this is not ryt
Good morning.....m very bored with this movie......just listen to your deliberations.so one can only see that a guilty verdict is out already....so we will be waiting for an appeal
The ruling on both confessions is not final that's why judge gogo didn't even give us his reasons and after opening those confessions , the confessions of accused 1 must be thrown out of that court and it shows that the accused was not free that's why he lied several times , so baloyoi n Gininda cannot pick and choose what to believe from that confession.
as for Gininda's any person with dreadlocks light skinned short in south africa is a senzo meyiwa suspect that why they even suspected umgqumeni esafela
The 5 suspects got nothing to lose. They are giving good reasons that they were not involved.😢 so far only is not serving life sentences .😢
This case is built on hearsay nd now dat Zungu evidence was thorn to shreds it's now Zungu father. Why was Zungu father not put on the scene.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 at beating Nkabi nge steel whool en faduk
Hello family, gininda is thinking that people are fools out there we still waiting for the documents of nongoma n guns dockets for ntanzi
Police coming this side killing me 😅😅😅😅
Emily nd anonymous yes judge must take that decision because now it's worse as it is the hearsay from Zungu,s father
LLB comes with honours... Hence it's easy to get masters
They are saying the confessions are a lie but some information is true…. How were these confessions even admitted as evidence
Hi Mr Ano and Emily
That person with dreads so far nothing connects him with the crime scene. They arrested a person with dreads and he was wrongfully arrested now he is suing the state.
I wonder how this people sleep at night 😢😢😢
They are wicked. The wicked have no rest! Hence they run around at night trying to close loopholes. Composing affidavits left right and centre, bana ba baloi.
PhD in the Science of Dragging nonsense
PHD of rubbish
For him even to be a lawyer with that voice aowa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣in the first place he is supposed to be a social worker for all i care😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Emily guess what: I'm slowly upgrading my Setswana vocabulary by adding some Zulu words now and then...
😂😂😂😂
The blood spatter expert doesn't deal with firearms that's a biolistic expert
Congratulations to mini Vaseline 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮🤮
Some great calls 👏 👏 👏
Ndamuka zvakanaka
Kkkkkk zvakaoma Zviri mucourt iyi Shuwa kusungirwa mhosva yausina kupara ma1
Remember they arrested another dread lock guy arrested ...wrongly
And now his life is upside down in a mess....flip the facts that Gininda come with
This court confuse me seriously...who is the judge and who is the prosecutor ?
God sees the pain in the hearts of SAns
Why gininda doesn't bring proof of payment in court?to show that indeed Kelly is Muster mind..so there were intruders tomorrow what happened to the 5 it will come to one of us it is sad
Aiii we don't care Sibanda noba angangu Dr we kati
Good morning family
Mr A is correct ...in my day Unisa was a difficult way on doing studies ...
But now it seems easy peasy ...does 30% play a role ?
Angie Motshega said they must pass with 30%
@thembikiletsebo9326 now we know how to get PhD. ..even me at 70 should try
gininda source is Zungu...zungu said he was with them at hostel ..the 5 came and ran to Gwabini's room...Now Sibiya shown them where he was dropped off after incident..he gininda colborate this 2 different as a fact bafeth ayi
❤ morning Emily Mr Annyo❤😂😂
I didn't get how the name of number 3 came up. Even Ntanzi. Is it from Absolom or from Sibiya?