I’m very late but you can do this with home brew anyway. I’m thinking about painting a Space Marine kill team using different medieval knightly schemes for different unit types, why not?
I'm sad that they got rid of bretonnia as a whole along with getting rid of the high elves and just splitting them up into like two different factions.
@corvak unfortunately I don't think they will as medieval soldiers are far too well served on the historical side of things without the fantasy tax on it - Just look at Perry Miniatures or fireforge games who even do Pegasus knights so too much competition at already cheaper prices
So the Wood Elf Dragon was actually based upon the generic Elf Dragon model that was used for the High and Dark Elves, both of which had plastic parts to help diferentiate. The Wood Elf one was all sculped and probably one of the last big metal models. They were amazing! Edit: Just had a hobby flashback to Dragon Princes on Drakes for the WD War of the Beard Army lists, wow, thanks for the nostalgia Jay!
I think that Necrosphinx and the Ushabtis could do great in a Bonereapers army. I mean their named character is Nahash himself. If this doesn't scream Khemri, than I don't know what else would.
Me too! Brought back so many memories of great scenes, like when the Witch King of Angmar says "I am your father" then Padme thrusts her sword into his face and says "you shall not pass!'. Goosebumps every time.
So not that it really matters, but the brettonian king isn't riding a griffin, that's what Karl Franz rides, he rides a hippogriff, which is essentially a griffin, but the brettonians get those models while the empire gets (very limited) griffins, it is however worth noting that the orginal source that invented hippogriffs had them as a cross breed between griffins and mares, next fantasy wasn't grimdark, it was a dark fantasy, people won great battles, but there was untold horrors, great heros, and villians.
I'm pretty sure that the King Leon is on a Hippogryph, not a Gryphon. I agree with you on the High Elf Dragon Knights though. I'm pretty sure that I've still got a box of them around somewhere. Their backstory is that thousands of years ago they rode actual dragons, (like your first pick) but there aren't enough to go around these days so they stuck spikey bits on their horses.
Bretonnian Knights always remind me of the Lego Castles Knights. In a good way. I would say they're cheap proxies, but Lego plastic is close to the same price per weight as GW plastic.
Bretonnia was my first army as a 12 year old. I had ten knights twenty archers and twenty peasants with pitch forks. I ruined them with a too many layers of thick paint and gave up with warhammer. Twenty five years past before getting back into 40k. I learnt a lot from UA-cam tutorials and now really happy with my aeldari and tau
Warhammer Fantasy Battles had the best fantasy lore outside of perhaps Tolkien. For me it peaked around 6th edition (around the year 2000), when it was still a very _grimdark_ setting. Before the models started to grow larger and more cartoonish in order to appeal to even younger audiences. This was also the time when _Mordheim_ came out and interestingly we're seeing that game really grow a lot in popularity at the moment.
Couldn't agree more. Also I think the artworks (especially the box art) was just magnificant during that era. The empire state troops box art is just iconic
When I first started collecting Warhammer models (mostly 40k), every time I visited my local Warhammer store I always said I was going to save up and buy one of those High Elf Dragons. I ended up stopping collecting for a few years and when I came back they were gone. I really hope the high elves get a new range with Warhammer Old World!
The Tomb kings Ushabti are models I wish could be brought back / updated. they have such a stargate vibe (I love stargate), it befuddles me that they don't still produce that line. They were amazing...a bit goofy, but still amazing.
Oh mate. I live not far from Warhammer World H.Q in Nottingham and I'm constantly bombarding them with emails and hand written letters for them to bring back my beloved Tomb Kings and Warhammer Fantasy Base as a whole , with no change to the rules either. People who thought that was hard to play , were just dense people who knew nothing of the franchise. Probs people who just collected them, painted them and did nothing with them after.
@@joey-emiliofretti3157 They have to attract new people, thats how businesses go about, they cant bring back something just because a couple of nerds want it
So glad you picked the NecronSphinx as your final pick, it was what I immediately thought of when I saw the video title. I never collected a Warhammer Fantasy army but I picked up a NecroSphinx as a one-off project and I loved it.
@@grlmgor Thanks to your comment, I looked up those blood knights and those are on my list to get soon, so thanks friend. Before your comment, I didn't even know about them.
@@TheGoldenDragon_ NP, are you getting the age of sigmar or warhammer blood knights? Also if you like animal theme miniatures you may also like Ushabti from Tomb kings or Chakax from Lizardmen.
@@grlmgor I didn't even know there were blood knights for regular Warhammer. Lol. I had my eyes on those AOS blood knights, but now my curiosity is piqued for the others now. Those ushabti look pretty good too. Man, there's a lot of minis I didn't even know about, so thanks again.
I recently picked up an old Warhammer Fantasy Battles 4th ed (which was the edition that made me fall in love with Warhammer years back.) It was a crazy nostalgia rush, as was this video, cheers Jay. I definitely would love to paint some Bretonnians when they do eventually release the Old World.
The units of cavalry from fantasy just looked so incredible all together. Individual sculpts taking less of the spotlight and designing them all to look amazing together was the huge appeal of warhammer to me.
Wonderful choices! I definitely miss the look and feel of The World that Was. I have high hopes for The Old World. Fingers crossed it brings a heavy dose of nostalgia.
Serpentine Dragons are peak GW dragon for me, the original Forest Dragon in particular (which had a Glade Lord as the rider). The current dragon sculpts to me are very much generic western dragon, you could have Sean Connery voice it and nobody would bat an eye while asking you when they made Dragonheart minis. The serpentine nature of the WHFB Elven dragons gives them a mixture of western and eastern aesthetic that makes it unique in my opinion, and fits with the 'other-worldy-ness' of the elves.
After seeing your video I went straight into eBay and found a louen leoncour figure on hippogryh . I can't wait for it to arrive so I can repaint it . What an awesome figure . Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I had never seen it before 😉
You missed 2 of the best Bretonnia sculpts, that perfectly get that fantasy vibe you mentioned: Questing Knights and Grail Reliquae. Questing Knights are great "historical" knights with lot's of pazaz like personal library, scrolls, mandolin... One of the best Warhammer sculpts ever and I'm lucky to have them. Grail Reliquae is basically rabble of peasants armed with trash discarded by Grail Knights that houl with them skeleton of a knight on wodden horse... It's one of the kits I'm still looking out for.
My favourite was Galrauch the chaos dragon. I also went through a phase when I was using it as a Tyranid bio-titan and had venom cannons glued to his back. The bio-titan at the time had no official model and the rules for creating your own were released in a white dwarf magazine.
@10:22 The *Galidor* lego set was based on a show, written by the man behind The Secret World of Alex Mack and also The Journey of Allen Strange tv shows
The thing about Fantasy Battles to me is that they captured the idea of playing a wargame where every battle feels like it belongs on a Metal Album Cover where everything has personality and you can tell what faction was what.
Yeah I prefer their older sculpting in both fantasy and 40k. It seems they are more going for realism now. Not saying their new stuff is bad, but it just doesn't hit me the same way those old models did. I guess nostalgia plays a role too though
Loved the bretonnian line, and my dad taught me to play table top with them. He even had one of his squires look like me. Always have a special place in my heart
For me it is the older Warhammer Fantasy models that I feel really nostalgic about - 90s 5th edition High Elves, Bretonnians, Orcs and Goblins, Dark Elves etc - were truly glorious
You hit the nail on the head when you said charm and character even if you feel those words don’t hold any meaning. The new models are amazing, but I won’t remember them. They’re not particularly fun, I don’t get the same sense of joy and I don’t believe that’s because I’m an adult now. I think it’s the same with many things, it’s why people prefer classic cars, or 80’s movies. Yeah the new shiny thing is technically better, probably more reliable etc. they have no charm or character. It just doesn’t hit in the same way. There’s no journey in new shiny things because they mostly work, old Warhammer, old films, old cars, they were clunky. You would work your hands raw getting stuff to work and you’d swear through gritted teeth. There’s a real hands on and tangible experience you got with those things that you don’t really get now. Yes WH is still hands on, but your tools are better made, you have adult strength to open paint bottles, you follow instructions and build correctly. The journey is there but it’s different. And the end product is generally just a bit meh. Whereas a wonky as fuck dragon hopping off a stone, probably toppling over constantly, big gaps between its joints, stuck together with green stuff and nothing else because you’ve got no idea what you’re doing, that end result is fucking rad and you loved every second of it even when it drove you mad.
I am so unbelievablely happy they still sell Phoenix Gaurd from fantasy in Aos. Many years ago when I was a young lad, I picked up a warhammer fantasy army book at a garage sale because it looked cool and Asyuran's warrior monks were the nail in the coffin that sealed my fate as a total elven fan boy. But I miss Archaon, and Malikith and a bunch of cool characters.
When I played 40k in the *cough* 90s *cough* I used to love looking at the Warhammer miniatures in my nearest Games Workshop as there were some real fun little miniatures (Skaven, I'm looking at you), even more so when it was just a metal mini in a blister pack that you had to guess what it'd look like. Never played WFB but liked watching other people playing it in GW and am looking forward to see what comes next for it. Though if the question about Battlefleet Gothic on socials the other day was an indicator it might be a new lot of little ships for my existing chaos fleet to go up against
I have an unnasembled high elf lord on dragon sitting on the shelf behind me from when I was a kid! I'm saving it for when I want to dive into something really special :D
I love Oldhammer idea, but at the same time with current GW pricing I find it rather hard to pull off. Unless you go for alternative 3D prints of course. Rulebooks will sell for sure, armies... it really depends how GW handles it.
I love how the bretonias being normal in a world that is just not t serves for that juspgtion you want and gives hhistorical wargamers a faction to play.
A lot of the old Regiments of Renown are ones that I would love to get, but they're exceedingly expensive. I also keep hunting for a decently priced set of Empire Duelists, both of those looked cool and I just wanted them
I’ve sniped a few bulk lot of metal fantasy models with many regiments of renown in them ! I’ve resold just the squads of those for more then the bulk bids
Interestingly enough, the old plastic bretonnian knights (as well as the enpire plastic knights) have a large variety of bitz that fit onto space marines for some fun kitbashes
I have find memories about those Bretonnian knights. I had the Warhammer starter box with the Lizardmen and the Bretonnians in it. I ended up trading the Bretonnians for Orcs and Goblins. Currently pretty tempted by the Conquest first blood 100 kingdoms because of those knight models
Holy crap, you awakened some deep, buried memories with that off-hand Galidor remark. It's like Lego wanted to get in on the action figure market, but couldn't entirely figure out how to make them Lego-compatible
I own a warsphinx from WHFB and used the spare parts of the necrosphinx to build my own hierotitan because this unit never got a model. Still regretting to not have bought a second sphinx that one day I was standing in the local game store. I really hope GW brings the kit back.
Just FYI, RPE (Ral Partha Europe) stocks the amazing range of Demonworld figures in 15mm. Sculpted by the phenomenal Werner Klocke, the figures are very much like a 15mm WFB. I could recommend a couple of rules systems, or use whichever rules system you want (maybe even Demonworld, lol), or 1/2 scale WFB if you preferred. You could easily get lost in the sauce buying one of every army, they are gorgeous minis... much less expensive than GW, and possibly easier (or tougher) to paint @ 15. Definitely check those out!
All the WFB Elves are great im so glad I do have 3 of those High Elven dragons 🥰 Rumour has it that many of those old plastics might be coming back for Old World.
I'd love to know where you found all the pictures used for this video? I'd really like to go back and browse a tonne of the old models to spark my childhood memories!
Even if they never bring Felix back into the stories I'd love to see a mini for him made that just gets called something like warrior poet or aspiring writer that you can throw into a list next to gotrek
What??? Fuck me. I know I haven't collected in over 18 years but Jesus wept. I only stopped cause my parents couldn't justify the prices for small bits of plastic :(
Those resculpts of the dragon princes were pretty nice compared to the more static older versions also the older ones were done in a red scheme. Lore wise the goofiness made sense as they were paying tribute to when the used to actually ride dragons around.
Ok a few terms you used quite wrong: Renaissance: Describes the Period between the 15th to 17th century, the beginning of the historical categorisatoin "early modern age". Bretonia is representing arthurian and grail legends, wich peak around 12th and 14th century. This era is the "High Medival Period" and the "Late Medival Period". The Empire under Karl Franz on the other hand is definitly 16-17th century (renaissance / early modern) germany at the End of the Maximilan Period (overlap of late medival and early modern age). Btw the "soulblight gravelords" skeletons and grave guard are from around 2007 and have been released years ahead of the newer tomb kings miniatures as part of the 7th Edition release for vampire counts, together with the Vargulf, Ghouls, the now finecast Vampire Lords and no longer availible Blood Knight miniatures made from metal.
First thing, today we have Wood elves as not so cool spirits of the wonderlands aka Sylvaneth + cities of sigmar where the bulk of old WE was before they started to cancel them not so long ago. The Dragon Princes was a cool piece and like the Dragon they warent so old, now when they would remake those, the minis would be bigger and more detailed, the technology can make those details with less space so It wouldnt look so cartoonish like the older models and those armors are truly how you imagine grand elves would wear to war showing off :D
I played 6th edition back in the day. Then dropped off from wargaming until starting 40k in 2021. Kinda cool that they're bringing back square bases. I had high elf dragon with a rider, but it was not the same model you started this video with. Maybe it was an earlier kit 🤔 EDIT: Searched around a bit and what I had was Prince Imrik!
sisters of twilight on forest dragon on the cover of a white dwarf sitting on the rack at barnes and noble was what got me into miniatures. i bought that white dwarf and the rest is history. I ended up not getting that model or even getting into fantasy mostly cause it was all 40k at the game store. I quickly found the Tau Battlesuits and Firewarriors, and cut my wargaming teeth with 4 edition tau....
Have you seen how big a warhorse would have to be in order to carry a fully armored knight on its back along tack, saddle, and barding? Three grown men can stand in a line next to a horse and take up roughly the same space on the ground as the horse. The warhorse was most likely around the same size as a Clydesdale, possibly larger, and those are massive.
I will forever regret that I never got a box of Bretonian Men at Arms. Never got the shaggy dog and snail bits. I used to try and collect all the little critters like the Fanatic Beetle, Powder Keg monkey, etc. That Wood Elf dragon is the second version of it after they added the forest spirits and new characters. Mine was stolen from my car with a bunch of other kits after I was paid in models for painting the murals on the walls at DakkaDakka.
Way back when in the 90's I got into Warhammer fantasy and I'm still salty about AOS, so if and when the old world comes back it just might be the moment when I hop back into the hobby. I'd love me some tomb kings.
Island of blood was my first box with a buddy. And so started a trend of being a Skaven player... catching fire, doom wheels getting stuck in forests doing 3.1 turns... I don't actually miss old Fantasy and much prefer AOS - but the old models yeah, agree. Some classic stuff.
There's something over the top, almost cartoonish, trippy, super old school high fantasy about all these models. I think when Warhammer Fantasy started, they were reacting to the existing field of wargames, which were all about historical accuracy and realism, making proper proportions and historically accurate weapons and outfits fundamental. I love it that old school Warhammer Fantasy seems to really have said: F that, we're doing HIGH Fantasy, elves, goblins, fairies, wizards and demons.. and stylistically focused on things that just visually just *pop* when you look at them from a distance on a battlefield. The painting style also was super bright, intense colors.. not realistic or 'grimdark' but visually stunning. When I see photos of armies in the old issues of White Dwarf I'm still drooling as if I am that kid again, 25+ years ago. I really miss that period of Warhammer.
I have a sweet spot in my heart for the old world and love Total Warhammer. I really hope they deliver some great new models when they eventually release the game
I knew that the Necrosphinx would be on this list 🤣 I really wish I'd kept in the hobby when Tomb King's got their 2nd army book as I would have nabbed that. Though, don't give me hope that they'd re-release it for The Old World...
I came back to the hobby when fantasy was just discontinued and I played 8th Ed until I discovered the ninth age. It’s freaking awesome and keeps fantasy alive as GW should have.
Speaking of dragons, I wish GW will release a succesor model to Galrauch, the two headead chaos dragon of old. My best option now is to do unspeakable things to Krondys and Karazai...
I love my Warhammer Fantasy, it will always have a soft spot in my heart. I have around 4500 points of an all metal Dark Elves army from as early as Marauder.
I would have loved to offer you a couple of Bretonnian knights for Jay to paint up. But I just realized that shipping from Germany is so ridiculously expensive, it might actually be cheaper to buy minis in the US and then have them delivered to your address xD
I have every model on that list but the necrosphynx, and was sad twice if not three times 😂 I played high elves and wood elves back in whfb, and came back to the hobby with age of sigmar to find they ended the world. Started order draconis then (all dragon princes and lord's on dragon) as a passion project but they then discontinued faction support. I was devasted. Flash forward to now, I am one month in to my 12 month no-buy challenge and keeping a book of everything I cover. My order draconis will be finished and proudly displayed in my cabinets or taken out to play against newer players to aos who want a win. You forgot to list imrik on minaithnir too! His old-old model I believe inspired the newer dragon prince designs
16:30 In my opinion, once old world (warhammer) re-launches, it's going to Eclipse Age of Sigmar in popularity. I could be out of touch though, but Total War Warhammer has done amazing things for the popularity of the world, meanwhile next to nobody knows anything about Sigmar except for the very specific people playing it.
I still have my Bretonnian army, waiting for GW to maybe bring them back in the old world (yeah right...) but the nice thing with those knight is you want every knight to be ''unique'' they are all lord of their own, so they cannot all bear the same color. Personnaly I took 5 color and mix 2 color on each knight, so i have a lot of combination of color combo
Yes! I love the scene with Legolas from Star Wars, such a great cameo!
Same the best crossover.
@@victorhenden6909 Remember when he slid down the trunk 🤣😏
You're a wizard, Spock! 🤣
That star wars film must have slipped past me. 😂
@@steclark598 the are coming up with so many spin offs these days. I dont blame you🤣
The best thing about Bretonnia is that you can use a wide variety of colours on your knights, being that they're drawn from many noble houses.
I’m very late but you can do this with home brew anyway. I’m thinking about painting a Space Marine kill team using different medieval knightly schemes for different unit types, why not?
I really liked Brettonians. They also had poor-quality peasant chaff troops with pitchforks. And you are right about how nice those elves are.
I'm sad that they got rid of bretonnia as a whole along with getting rid of the high elves and just splitting them up into like two different factions.
I would love for them to bring back some kind of "normal humans" faction for Sigmar.
@@tarkhan15 the cities of sigmar will get a rework for that reason
@corvak unfortunately I don't think they will as medieval soldiers are far too well served on the historical side of things without the fantasy tax on it - Just look at Perry Miniatures or fireforge games who even do Pegasus knights so too much competition at already cheaper prices
In Aos, you can still use the High elfs. You just need the AOS app
I would love for them to get rid of all the stupid new factions. All they need to do. No balloon dwarves or cow elves or space marines.
So the Wood Elf Dragon was actually based upon the generic Elf Dragon model that was used for the High and Dark Elves, both of which had plastic parts to help diferentiate. The Wood Elf one was all sculped and probably one of the last big metal models. They were amazing!
Edit: Just had a hobby flashback to Dragon Princes on Drakes for the WD War of the Beard Army lists, wow, thanks for the nostalgia Jay!
Also their dragon armor was immune to fire.
I think that Necrosphinx and the Ushabtis could do great in a Bonereapers army. I mean their named character is Nahash himself. If this doesn't scream Khemri, than I don't know what else would.
Bretonnian Knights.
The green knight.
In order to have a remotely similar surface to freehand, today you have to get a 40k Imperial or Chaos Knight.
Great model for it age.
I had to rewind for that phantom menace line to make sure I didn't imagine it
Me too! Brought back so many memories of great scenes, like when the Witch King of Angmar says "I am your father" then Padme thrusts her sword into his face and says "you shall not pass!'. Goosebumps every time.
Yeah I thought I was having as stroke or something and had to go back for a second take lmao xD
So not that it really matters, but the brettonian king isn't riding a griffin, that's what Karl Franz rides, he rides a hippogriff, which is essentially a griffin, but the brettonians get those models while the empire gets (very limited) griffins, it is however worth noting that the orginal source that invented hippogriffs had them as a cross breed between griffins and mares, next fantasy wasn't grimdark, it was a dark fantasy, people won great battles, but there was untold horrors, great heros, and villians.
Bretonnian Knights are where it's at. I cannot WAIT to get a Bretonnian army in the Old World game when it gets released.
They were also for the more fantastic knights while fitting well into just about anything fantasy
I'm pretty sure that the King Leon is on a Hippogryph, not a Gryphon.
I agree with you on the High Elf Dragon Knights though. I'm pretty sure that I've still got a box of them around somewhere.
Their backstory is that thousands of years ago they rode actual dragons, (like your first pick) but there aren't enough to go around these days so they stuck spikey bits on their horses.
Hey EoB, you guys always publish these Monday videos right when I wake up for work. Sets a good tone for the day/week :)
Bretonnian Knights always remind me of the Lego Castles Knights.
In a good way. I would say they're cheap proxies, but Lego plastic is close to the same price per weight as GW plastic.
Bretonnia was my first army as a 12 year old. I had ten knights twenty archers and twenty peasants with pitch forks. I ruined them with a too many layers of thick paint and gave up with warhammer. Twenty five years past before getting back into 40k. I learnt a lot from UA-cam tutorials and now really happy with my aeldari and tau
Warhammer Fantasy Battles had the best fantasy lore outside of perhaps Tolkien. For me it peaked around 6th edition (around the year 2000), when it was still a very _grimdark_ setting. Before the models started to grow larger and more cartoonish in order to appeal to even younger audiences. This was also the time when _Mordheim_ came out and interestingly we're seeing that game really grow a lot in popularity at the moment.
Couldn't agree more. Also I think the artworks (especially the box art) was just magnificant during that era. The empire state troops box art is just iconic
I agree but I think the elder scrolls could be on par with Warhammer as the next best fantasy world
When I first started collecting Warhammer models (mostly 40k), every time I visited my local Warhammer store I always said I was going to save up and buy one of those High Elf Dragons. I ended up stopping collecting for a few years and when I came back they were gone.
I really hope the high elves get a new range with Warhammer Old World!
The Tomb kings Ushabti are models I wish could be brought back / updated. they have such a stargate vibe (I love stargate), it befuddles me that they don't still produce that line. They were amazing...a bit goofy, but still amazing.
Oh mate. I live not far from Warhammer World H.Q in Nottingham and I'm constantly bombarding them with emails and hand written letters for them to bring back my beloved Tomb Kings and Warhammer Fantasy Base as a whole , with no change to the rules either. People who thought that was hard to play , were just dense people who knew nothing of the franchise. Probs people who just collected them, painted them and did nothing with them after.
@@joey-emiliofretti3157 They have to attract new people, thats how businesses go about, they cant bring back something just because a couple of nerds want it
So glad you picked the NecronSphinx as your final pick, it was what I immediately thought of when I saw the video title. I never collected a Warhammer Fantasy army but I picked up a NecroSphinx as a one-off project and I loved it.
Dragon princes are so amazing and still hold up well vs current models. This inspired me to buy some on eBay just now!
Awesome. Congrats man. That is what I'm going to do now. Enjoy them.
You would also like blood knights from vampire counts.
@@grlmgor Thanks to your comment, I looked up those blood knights and those are on my list to get soon, so thanks friend. Before your comment, I didn't even know about them.
@@TheGoldenDragon_ NP, are you getting the age of sigmar or warhammer blood knights?
Also if you like animal theme miniatures you may also like Ushabti from Tomb kings or Chakax from Lizardmen.
@@grlmgor I didn't even know there were blood knights for regular Warhammer. Lol. I had my eyes on those AOS blood knights, but now my curiosity is piqued for the others now. Those ushabti look pretty good too. Man, there's a lot of minis I didn't even know about, so thanks again.
I recently picked up an old Warhammer Fantasy Battles 4th ed (which was the edition that made me fall in love with Warhammer years back.)
It was a crazy nostalgia rush, as was this video, cheers Jay. I definitely would love to paint some Bretonnians when they do eventually release the Old World.
The units of cavalry from fantasy just looked so incredible all together. Individual sculpts taking less of the spotlight and designing them all to look amazing together was the huge appeal of warhammer to me.
Me too. 4 times…still don’t get the reference!
I had to listen (and research) your weird lord of the rings phantom menace "reference" three times. You did it... You trolled me. Loved it!
Wonderful choices! I definitely miss the look and feel of The World that Was. I have high hopes for The Old World. Fingers crossed it brings a heavy dose of nostalgia.
Serpentine Dragons are peak GW dragon for me, the original Forest Dragon in particular (which had a Glade Lord as the rider). The current dragon sculpts to me are very much generic western dragon, you could have Sean Connery voice it and nobody would bat an eye while asking you when they made Dragonheart minis. The serpentine nature of the WHFB Elven dragons gives them a mixture of western and eastern aesthetic that makes it unique in my opinion, and fits with the 'other-worldy-ness' of the elves.
I saw Isle of Blood. Now I remember why I’m sad about those Rat Ogres and the Warlock Engineer.
After seeing your video I went straight into eBay and found a louen leoncour figure on hippogryh . I can't wait for it to arrive so I can repaint it . What an awesome figure . Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I had never seen it before 😉
You missed 2 of the best Bretonnia sculpts, that perfectly get that fantasy vibe you mentioned: Questing Knights and Grail Reliquae.
Questing Knights are great "historical" knights with lot's of pazaz like personal library, scrolls, mandolin... One of the best Warhammer sculpts ever and I'm lucky to have them.
Grail Reliquae is basically rabble of peasants armed with trash discarded by Grail Knights that houl with them skeleton of a knight on wodden horse... It's one of the kits I'm still looking out for.
Excellent video thank you! :) So much nostalgia. I have Louen on Griffin. Such a cool model
The wood elf dragon is atually even older (early 90'?) when it came with a signle rider.
As a Soulblight Gravelords player, I was shocked to hear you say it correctly. For shame.
I'm happy to Say that i have the High-elve dragon, but one of his wings is broken, since he participed in many many battle
My favourite was Galrauch the chaos dragon.
I also went through a phase when I was using it as a Tyranid bio-titan and had venom cannons glued to his back. The bio-titan at the time had no official model and the rules for creating your own were released in a white dwarf magazine.
@10:22 The *Galidor* lego set was based on a show,
written by the man behind The Secret World of Alex Mack
and also The Journey of Allen Strange tv shows
The thing about Fantasy Battles to me is that they captured the idea of playing a wargame where every battle feels like it belongs on a Metal Album Cover where everything has personality and you can tell what faction was what.
Yeah I prefer their older sculpting in both fantasy and 40k. It seems they are more going for realism now. Not saying their new stuff is bad, but it just doesn't hit me the same way those old models did. I guess nostalgia plays a role too though
5:30 yeah I loved all the scenes with Legolas in Star Wars the phantom menace 😂
Loved the bretonnian line, and my dad taught me to play table top with them. He even had one of his squires look like me. Always have a special place in my heart
For me it is the older Warhammer Fantasy models that I feel really nostalgic about - 90s 5th edition High Elves, Bretonnians, Orcs and Goblins, Dark Elves etc - were truly glorious
Need a part 2 of this! I'm shocked the lothern skycutter didn't make the list!
You hit the nail on the head when you said charm and character even if you feel those words don’t hold any meaning. The new models are amazing, but I won’t remember them. They’re not particularly fun, I don’t get the same sense of joy and I don’t believe that’s because I’m an adult now. I think it’s the same with many things, it’s why people prefer classic cars, or 80’s movies. Yeah the new shiny thing is technically better, probably more reliable etc. they have no charm or character. It just doesn’t hit in the same way. There’s no journey in new shiny things because they mostly work, old Warhammer, old films, old cars, they were clunky. You would work your hands raw getting stuff to work and you’d swear through gritted teeth. There’s a real hands on and tangible experience you got with those things that you don’t really get now. Yes WH is still hands on, but your tools are better made, you have adult strength to open paint bottles, you follow instructions and build correctly. The journey is there but it’s different. And the end product is generally just a bit meh. Whereas a wonky as fuck dragon hopping off a stone, probably toppling over constantly, big gaps between its joints, stuck together with green stuff and nothing else because you’ve got no idea what you’re doing, that end result is fucking rad and you loved every second of it even when it drove you mad.
I am so unbelievablely happy they still sell Phoenix Gaurd from fantasy in Aos. Many years ago when I was a young lad, I picked up a warhammer fantasy army book at a garage sale because it looked cool and Asyuran's warrior monks were the nail in the coffin that sealed my fate as a total elven fan boy.
But I miss Archaon, and Malikith and a bunch of cool characters.
When I played 40k in the *cough* 90s *cough* I used to love looking at the Warhammer miniatures in my nearest Games Workshop as there were some real fun little miniatures (Skaven, I'm looking at you), even more so when it was just a metal mini in a blister pack that you had to guess what it'd look like. Never played WFB but liked watching other people playing it in GW and am looking forward to see what comes next for it. Though if the question about Battlefleet Gothic on socials the other day was an indicator it might be a new lot of little ships for my existing chaos fleet to go up against
I love the High Elf on Dragon; I have two in my collection; both converted to be used in AoS.
I have an unnasembled high elf lord on dragon sitting on the shelf behind me from when I was a kid! I'm saving it for when I want to dive into something really special :D
This channel is just such good vibes. I don't even play warhammer and watch these vids.
I grew up with those old snake dragons. I’m actively looking for a couple to add to my collection
I love Oldhammer idea, but at the same time with current GW pricing I find it rather hard to pull off. Unless you go for alternative 3D prints of course. Rulebooks will sell for sure, armies... it really depends how GW handles it.
I love how the bretonias being normal in a world that is just not t serves for that juspgtion you want and gives hhistorical wargamers a faction to play.
A lot of the old Regiments of Renown are ones that I would love to get, but they're exceedingly expensive.
I also keep hunting for a decently priced set of Empire Duelists, both of those looked cool and I just wanted them
I'd love to own some slayer pirates
I’ve sniped a few bulk lot of metal fantasy models with many regiments of renown in them ! I’ve resold just the squads of those for more then the bulk bids
The Bretonians had lots of high fantsy. AND you were to paint them all different, and Cav army is SO fun.
Interestingly enough, the old plastic bretonnian knights (as well as the enpire plastic knights) have a large variety of bitz that fit onto space marines for some fun kitbashes
I have find memories about those Bretonnian knights. I had the Warhammer starter box with the Lizardmen and the Bretonnians in it. I ended up trading the Bretonnians for Orcs and Goblins. Currently pretty tempted by the Conquest first blood 100 kingdoms because of those knight models
Holy crap, you awakened some deep, buried memories with that off-hand Galidor remark. It's like Lego wanted to get in on the action figure market, but couldn't entirely figure out how to make them Lego-compatible
I own a warsphinx from WHFB and used the spare parts of the necrosphinx to build my own hierotitan because this unit never got a model. Still regretting to not have bought a second sphinx that one day I was standing in the local game store. I really hope GW brings the kit back.
Just FYI, RPE (Ral Partha Europe) stocks the amazing range of Demonworld figures in 15mm. Sculpted by the phenomenal Werner Klocke, the figures are very much like a 15mm WFB. I could recommend a couple of rules systems, or use whichever rules system you want (maybe even Demonworld, lol), or 1/2 scale WFB if you preferred.
You could easily get lost in the sauce buying one of every army, they are gorgeous minis... much less expensive than GW, and possibly easier (or tougher) to paint @ 15.
Definitely check those out!
"Legolas in star wars the phantom menace" at @ 5:35 gave me a twitching eye...
All the WFB Elves are great im so glad I do have 3 of those High Elven dragons 🥰
Rumour has it that many of those old plastics might be coming back for Old World.
you learned to pronounce Soulblight Gravelords! Well done! Although i still hear "bleep bloop bleep blods" whenever i see it written
I'd love to know where you found all the pictures used for this video? I'd really like to go back and browse a tonne of the old models to spark my childhood memories!
I'm sad they got rid of Felix. Gotrek is a boss, yeah, but damn. Why'd they do my boy Felix Jaeger like that?
Even if they never bring Felix back into the stories I'd love to see a mini for him made that just gets called something like warrior poet or aspiring writer that you can throw into a list next to gotrek
I reckon they're saving him for making a comeback.. he'd definitely be Stormcast material for the host made up of folks from The Old World!
I especially am sad that GW discontinued Galidor 😢 I especially loved the box set that came with Legolas
What??? Fuck me. I know I haven't collected in over 18 years but Jesus wept. I only stopped cause my parents couldn't justify the prices for small bits of plastic :(
Those resculpts of the dragon princes were pretty nice compared to the more static older versions also the older ones were done in a red scheme. Lore wise the goofiness made sense as they were paying tribute to when the used to actually ride dragons around.
Ok a few terms you used quite wrong:
Renaissance: Describes the Period between the 15th to 17th century, the beginning of the historical categorisatoin "early modern age".
Bretonia is representing arthurian and grail legends, wich peak around 12th and 14th century. This era is the "High Medival Period" and the "Late Medival Period".
The Empire under Karl Franz on the other hand is definitly 16-17th century (renaissance / early modern) germany at the End of the Maximilan Period (overlap of late medival and early modern age).
Btw the "soulblight gravelords" skeletons and grave guard are from around 2007 and have been released years ahead of the newer tomb kings miniatures as part of the 7th Edition release for vampire counts, together with the Vargulf, Ghouls, the now finecast Vampire Lords and no longer availible Blood Knight miniatures made from metal.
nice picks these are some really interesting and cool minis
Nice stuff thanks for the show
First thing, today we have Wood elves as not so cool spirits of the wonderlands aka Sylvaneth + cities of sigmar where the bulk of old WE was before they started to cancel them not so long ago. The Dragon Princes was a cool piece and like the Dragon they warent so old, now when they would remake those, the minis would be bigger and more detailed, the technology can make those details with less space so It wouldnt look so cartoonish like the older models and those armors are truly how you imagine grand elves would wear to war showing off :D
I played 6th edition back in the day. Then dropped off from wargaming until starting 40k in 2021. Kinda cool that they're bringing back square bases. I had high elf dragon with a rider, but it was not the same model you started this video with. Maybe it was an earlier kit 🤔 EDIT: Searched around a bit and what I had was Prince Imrik!
You can still play 6th edition!
i did the same thing after the End Time i basically moved to 40K as a refugee
@@michael3088 Trust me, if you want you can still play 6th edition. Even there are plenty of tournaments everywhere
sisters of twilight on forest dragon on the cover of a white dwarf sitting on the rack at barnes and noble was what got me into miniatures. i bought that white dwarf and the rest is history. I ended up not getting that model or even getting into fantasy mostly cause it was all 40k at the game store. I quickly found the Tau Battlesuits and Firewarriors, and cut my wargaming teeth with 4 edition tau....
And here I am wondering ... HOW ... could you miss the Necrosphinx! And then you bring it! Best Fantasymodel ever made.
Have you seen how big a warhorse would have to be in order to carry a fully armored knight on its back along tack, saddle, and barding? Three grown men can stand in a line next to a horse and take up roughly the same space on the ground as the horse. The warhorse was most likely around the same size as a Clydesdale, possibly larger, and those are massive.
Prince Imrik model is the thing that got me into table top games. Great silly dragon
I will forever regret that I never got a box of Bretonian Men at Arms. Never got the shaggy dog and snail bits. I used to try and collect all the little critters like the Fanatic Beetle, Powder Keg monkey, etc.
That Wood Elf dragon is the second version of it after they added the forest spirits and new characters. Mine was stolen from my car with a bunch of other kits after I was paid in models for painting the murals on the walls at DakkaDakka.
I got home, put this on, and promptly fell asleep with messed up dreams about dragons
agree on the tomb kings. the really good tk models made me want the whole army just because the cool models in the line were so good.
Wasn't the last version of LeoLeo on a hippogriff?
Bretonnian kaniggits were about 300 years pre-Renaissance.
Normal is good!
Excellent video.
👍🎅👍
Recently saw the high elf on dragon in person, I loved it tbh
Way back when in the 90's I got into Warhammer fantasy and I'm still salty about AOS, so if and when the old world comes back it just might be the moment when I hop back into the hobby. I'd love me some tomb kings.
I think at 5:32 he may of been drunk 😂 legolas wasn’t in star wars
she was in that part when they destroyed the greyboop death star.
Island of blood was my first box with a buddy. And so started a trend of being a Skaven player... catching fire, doom wheels getting stuck in forests doing 3.1 turns...
I don't actually miss old Fantasy and much prefer AOS - but the old models yeah, agree. Some classic stuff.
Where do you source the images of these out of print models?
There's something over the top, almost cartoonish, trippy, super old school high fantasy about all these models. I think when Warhammer Fantasy started, they were reacting to the existing field of wargames, which were all about historical accuracy and realism, making proper proportions and historically accurate weapons and outfits fundamental. I love it that old school Warhammer Fantasy seems to really have said: F that, we're doing HIGH Fantasy, elves, goblins, fairies, wizards and demons.. and stylistically focused on things that just visually just *pop* when you look at them from a distance on a battlefield. The painting style also was super bright, intense colors.. not realistic or 'grimdark' but visually stunning. When I see photos of armies in the old issues of White Dwarf I'm still drooling as if I am that kid again, 25+ years ago. I really miss that period of Warhammer.
Im surprised I didn’t see the cockatrice or that old orc standard bearer with the tusked helmet
I miss the High Elf Silverhelms, used them as a basis to convert my Shining Spears.
I have a sweet spot in my heart for the old world and love Total Warhammer. I really hope they deliver some great new models when they eventually release the game
Looking forward to the Old world.
I would like to paint a sky cutter
I knew that the Necrosphinx would be on this list 🤣 I really wish I'd kept in the hobby when Tomb King's got their 2nd army book as I would have nabbed that.
Though, don't give me hope that they'd re-release it for The Old World...
they definitely will, tomb kings are a fan favorite and confirmed for old world.
@@ce5122 Brilliant 👍 at least I've got time to save up with the game not likely hitting till 2024 at the earliest
I came back to the hobby when fantasy was just discontinued and I played 8th Ed until I discovered the ninth age. It’s freaking awesome and keeps fantasy alive as GW should have.
Speaking of dragons, I wish GW will release a succesor model to Galrauch, the two headead chaos dragon of old. My best option now is to do unspeakable things to Krondys and Karazai...
Egrimm Van Horstmann is my current project with one of my Krondys', Prince Imrik is my other.
I love my Warhammer Fantasy, it will always have a soft spot in my heart. I have around 4500 points of an all metal Dark Elves army from as early as Marauder.
I happen to have a sphinx kit that I'm wanting to sell, though I guess transatlantic shipping may be prohibitive?
Lego galidor even had a TV show if I'm not mistaken. With McDonalds toys aswell. The monsters look cool tho but I wasn't alive back then
I would have loved to offer you a couple of Bretonnian knights for Jay to paint up. But I just realized that shipping from Germany is so ridiculously expensive, it might actually be cheaper to buy minis in the US and then have them delivered to your address xD
Please do more tau content also your videos have been a big insperation for my 40k journey
Extra Shush in GW means helmets with ornaments that are 6 feet tall and gatling guns coming out of your chest without motor or chamber.
Two things that can get your juices flowing with stuff like this: 3d printing and Warmaster: Revolution.
I have every model on that list but the necrosphynx, and was sad twice if not three times 😂 I played high elves and wood elves back in whfb, and came back to the hobby with age of sigmar to find they ended the world. Started order draconis then (all dragon princes and lord's on dragon) as a passion project but they then discontinued faction support. I was devasted.
Flash forward to now, I am one month in to my 12 month no-buy challenge and keeping a book of everything I cover. My order draconis will be finished and proudly displayed in my cabinets or taken out to play against newer players to aos who want a win. You forgot to list imrik on minaithnir too! His old-old model I believe inspired the newer dragon prince designs
Auyyy bet! Ive been looking for a Griffin model
I wonder if the return of old world might also lead to a revival of mordheim?
5:30 I thought I had an aneurism the first time I heard this lol.
16:30
In my opinion, once old world (warhammer) re-launches, it's going to Eclipse Age of Sigmar in popularity. I could be out of touch though, but Total War Warhammer has done amazing things for the popularity of the world, meanwhile next to nobody knows anything about Sigmar except for the very specific people playing it.
I still have my Bretonnian army, waiting for GW to maybe bring them back in the old world (yeah right...) but the nice thing with those knight is you want every knight to be ''unique'' they are all lord of their own, so they cannot all bear the same color. Personnaly I took 5 color and mix 2 color on each knight, so i have a lot of combination of color combo
So how do you feel now that we know Old World is gonna start with Brettonia vs Tomb Kings?