Have really enjoyed and found your videos on your journey to EV land very informative. Hope you will create more content on your longer journeys and how the planning for chargers went. Would like to hear more as well on your views on the plusses and minuses on these two cars as currently thinking of going EV and swapping my c class for a smaller EV. I must be mad!
Hi Scott, thanks for your kind feedback. I have swapped my SLC for the Mokka as I found driving Lindsey’s e2008 so much easier, the SLC felt heavy and lumbersome in comparison. Halfway through our holiday now and charging has been really easy so far, expensive charge on the way down as I wanted somewhere with multiple chargers, but had one 15p kwh charge here and even got a free charge at Beaulieu Motor Museum and still got 150 miles range left in the car. So far cost us £7 in charging. The driving here is super efficient due to speeds and regen braking, often go out and come back with more range on the car than when we started, sure we’re getting over 200 miles on a charge on these roads. Video to follow.
Hi Mark, I’m starting out on my ev journey as of Monday when I pick up an identical Mokka SRi Premium Nav in black. Just to say I found your video helpful and will look through the others for further info on charging and living with an ev👍🏻
Thanks David, appreciate the positive feedback, pleased it was of use. I'd suggest you check out this video, it's a bit long at 45 mins as it summarises lots of individual videos, some bit's won't be relevant as you've already made the commitment to go electric, but think it will help. ua-cam.com/video/0QR9aIJtf2U/v-deo.html
One thing to watch out for on the Mokka is the possessed by the devil, the car is trying to kill you button ;-) the automatic lane correction feature is particularly strong, it causes me issues when driving down country lanes near home, it seems to think changes in tarmac colour is me going over white lines and it tries to steer me out of trouble, but instead steers me into it. I've asked the dealer if it can be permanently switched off, but apparently not, so every time I drive I have to hold the button down for 5 secs to switch it off. Might be worth asking the dealer to show you how, I'm sure they'll know what I'm talking about. Other than that it's a great car, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Our daughter has mine at the moment so she doesn't have to buy petrol to get to work (great timing on your behalf).
@@baggiewhite Thanks Mark, that's good to know as my commute invloves a fair amount of rural driving. I'll be looking out for that particular 'safety' feature! :)
@@baggiewhite Brilliant! Thanks again. I'm delighted to be getting out of a diesel but slightly apprehensive about range as my commute is just under 100 miles round trip. My work has chargers so hoping to be using the company chargers for the majority of my energy consumption. I'm also interested in seeing just how good the pre-heating of the car will be during the winter when I can use mains power to defrost and prepare the car for me in the morning/evening rather than using the cars batteries to defrost and heat the car up for the journey. But overall just excited to finally get a chance to experience an ev. Hopefully not too steep a learning curve!! :)
@@sprotacus 100 miles round trip will be fine, but will need to plug in each night. Not had to preheat the Mokka yet, but works fine on my wife’s e2008.
Thanks Dale, the main thing is the lane correction feature, designed to warn you when you cross a white line without indicating, it’s overly sensitive and tries to correct us when driving on the country lanes round here (even though they have no white lines) it seems to sense changes in tarmac colour as lines, so it can feel at times like it’s trying to steer for you when you don’t want it to. Unfortunately you can’t permanently switch it off, so we have to hold a button down for 5 secs to disable it, other than that the car is great. However, I am going to sell the car this week probably (nothing wrong with the car) but my circumstances have changed and I have a long range Tesla on order, we plan on doing some European and Scandinavian road trips next year too and want something with longer range and a charging network I can rely on outside of the UK (finding the UK networks has got loads better recently as Gridserve replace all the old chargers at service stations). The good news is that the Mokka has hardly lost any money in 4 months and 3000 miles, think this is the combination of high 2nd hand car prices and concern about petrol supply and pricing pushing folks towards buying an EV, so looks like EV’s are holding their price better than expected.
@@dalefinck5280 probably around 160 for A roads with traffic lights and junctions if you use regen braking, drops to around 140 on Dual Carriageways as there’s no regen opportunities. I always use eco mode on motorways and dual carriageways as you don’t need the extra power once you’re up to speed. In Lindsey’s car (Peugeot e2008) which has the same battery and powertrain we got over 200 on holiday just tootling round the Bournemouth area, I’d expect the Mokka to be the same. EV driving is the opposite of combustion engine, the more stop start the better, long cruising is the worst for range.
Great video, subscribed and liked! May i know if either this or the e2008 have auto steer whilst cruise cruise is active? Also, is there any reason you chose to keep the e2008 over the Mokka e? As I thought the latter was a better package
Neither car had auto steer, although the Mokka had a possessed by the devil mode, whereby it would overcorrect the steering down country lanes when it couldn't see white lines and would try to steer me into a ditch on regular occasions it was also impossible to switch it off permanently so was a pain in the a*** to switch it off before each journey, this was one of the main reasons we kept the e2008 over the Mokka. The other reason was the Mokka felt old fashioned by design internally where the e2008 felt more modern. It's worth bearing in mind that these videos are a few years old now and things may have changed
Not sure about the current spec (our e2008 is a year old now) but the e2008 doesn't have a heated steering wheel, the seats don't auto adjust, but are heated on both cars. Heated steering wheel isn't really necessary as you can set the timer to preheat the cars in a morning, so no more cleaning frost of the windows either. We've now sold our Mokka (I've had a Tesla Model 3) and we had to choose which car to keep and which one to sell. We decided to keep the e2008 and sell the Mokka which tells you which one we prefer out of the two. Both nice cars, identical EV platform below the body work, so same sort of range, but the e2008 seemed quicker and is a lot more modern on the inside. Either way I'm sure you'll be happy with either car, but for us the e2008 is better
@@baggiewhite wow great thank you. I was just wondering how much it costs you to fill the car from 0 to full at home and how long it takes. My wife will be using the car for work and she has a 25 mile round trip daily. So I’m hoping I don’t have to charge it every night. Really sad that a full electric car doesn’t have electric seats.
@@taz2392 we have a 7kw pod point charger installed and we are on the Octopus Go Tariff and pay 5.5p per kwh for 5 hours each day, so we rarely charge from empty as that would take longer than 5 hrs to charge, so we plug in when it gets down to about 50% as it will then charge to full in less than 5 hrs. Two charges from 50% at 5.5p per kwh = 1 full charge. 50kw battery * 5.5p = £2.75 for a full charge. That tariff is due to expire soon and think it will be 7.5p so goes up to £3.75 (still a bargain compared to petrol or diesel). Obviously you need to do the maths for your energy tariff. Octopus seem to do the best EV tariff imho, can supply a referral code if you want one which will put £50 credit onto your account.
I'm torn between the Mokka e and the 2008e so tha ks for this video! I'm leaning towards the 2008, also their dealsership is much closer than Vauxhall so makes nipping to the garage when necessary easier😁
nice for a second EV, love how reflective the paintwork seems !!.........just off base a little Mark, I thought of a question yesterday and couldn't find an answer to it. We live in a small village and have power cuts now & then, do you know what happens to the charge cycle if you are hooked up and charging and the power goes off ?....does it just restart charging when the power comes back on, and what happens to the home charger (Pod Point will be ours) when it drops power and restarts whilst connected ?
Haha, I put it in the garage last night to keep it clean ready for the video today. As for the power cut question, that’s a good one, I have no idea tbh. Our Octopus Go Faster Tariff starts at 8.30pm so I expect we wouldn’t be in bed when a power cut occurs so we can monitor the situation, I’d expect it’ll just switch into normal charge mode if the timer had already kicked in. On another tangent we’ll be unplugging ours if we get a storm, last year a couple got struck by lightning outside our house and it blew all sorts of electrical devices in our house, won’t be risking tha5 with the car.
now youv'e done it, when did Octopus introduce Go Faster ?? do you think you need to do another video on the differences between that and Go ? Must admit first I had heard of it ??, it looks a little like Agile is it ?
Think it’s been a while, but it’s not well publicised. It’s 5.5p per kwh rather than 5p but lasts for 5 hours rather than 4, so worth it. When you sign up they give you a choice of available time slots as they are trying to manage the load on the grid, so the sooner you sign up the better. The only issue we’ve found is that we’ve come home after 8.30 a couple of times so missed the full cheap time slot, but not often enough for it to be an issue. Still not sure I’d go for Agile though, not sure I have the spare time to monitor it.
Hi there, we’re yet to do any miles in the Mokka as we took delivery just before our holiday where the ferries were already booked in my wife’s e2008, but as that is built on the same platform O expect rhe Mokka will be the same. Round town we get around 170 miles to a charge, but motorway and dual carriageway long journeys probably as low as 120. We’ve been touring Bournemouth and the New Forest this week and as all the driving is low speed and lots of regen braking and the weather is warm I reckon we’re getting over 200 miles which is staggering. We’ve done over 300 miles so far this week and all it’s cost us in charging is about £12 which is bonkers. Once you get used to it you won’t go back, as you’ve seen we liked our first EV so much we bought another. Will post a video next week on holidaying in an EV so you can see what public charging is like, so subscribe for the notifications. Also if you haven’t sorted out your home energy tariff I suggest switching to Octopus and then once it’s up and running and you have a smart meter and ask to go on their Octopus Go Faster tariff, you’ll be able to charge the car for around £1.50 and if you use my referral code in the comments below you’ll get a £50 credit (approx 3000 miles for free). Enjoy your new car.
Thank you for your reply, I do own a Jaguar I-Pace which is wonderful, we just did a 129 mile run and it took 126 miles off the range which I thought was very good. I am already of Octopus Go. So that makes for very cheaply driving.
My wife has now got her Mokka e and it’s great, What Car only give it 3 stars, why, it really is very good. Don’t but it if you have a large family it’s too small but for the two of us it’s great.
I've never had one before until we bought the e2008 and Mokka e, so I don't have anything to compare with tbh, but both seem pretty good to me, more than adequate to stop me reversing into things, I also like the aerial view camera too, it seems like witchcraft to me, either that or there's a drone following me round taking aerial footage.
@@baggiewhite Ok. Might be that people have high expectations or something? I don't. Im getting one my self so I will be the judge. Can't be that bad. 😁
Sure, use this link. Worth starting the process asap as it takes a while for the switch and then to get the smart meter up and running. Initially you need to go on the standard tariff and then once up and running ask them to switch you to the Go Faster tariff (find this is mroe flexible than just the Go tariff). Enjoy the e2008 it’s a great car. Here’s the referal code/link - share.octopus.energy/ideal-ash-761
Thanks for using my referral code Matt just had an email confirming your switch. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the e2008 when you get it.
@@phillhiggins2 by all means, in fact I’ve already had an email from Octopus saying you’re switching, so thanks for using it. What EV do you have (or are getting btw)
Switch to Octopus and share £100 with me using this link share.octopus.energy/ideal-ash-761 you need a standard tariff first and a smart meter installed, then you can switch to Octopus Go, Octopus Go Faster or the Octopus Agile tariff for cheap off peak energy
Have really enjoyed and found your videos on your journey to EV land very informative. Hope you will create more content on your longer journeys and how the planning for chargers went. Would like to hear more as well on your views on the plusses and minuses on these two cars as currently thinking of going EV and swapping my c class for a smaller EV. I must be mad!
Hi Scott, thanks for your kind feedback. I have swapped my SLC for the Mokka as I found driving Lindsey’s e2008 so much easier, the SLC felt heavy and lumbersome in comparison. Halfway through our holiday now and charging has been really easy so far, expensive charge on the way down as I wanted somewhere with multiple chargers, but had one 15p kwh charge here and even got a free charge at Beaulieu Motor Museum and still got 150 miles range left in the car. So far cost us £7 in charging. The driving here is super efficient due to speeds and regen braking, often go out and come back with more range on the car than when we started, sure we’re getting over 200 miles on a charge on these roads. Video to follow.
Here you go Scott, a 250 mile round trip to Snowdonia - ua-cam.com/video/I1eHq4qhioM/v-deo.html
Hi Mark, I’m starting out on my ev journey as of Monday when I pick up an identical Mokka SRi Premium Nav in black. Just to say I found your video helpful and will look through the others for further info on charging and living with an ev👍🏻
Thanks David, appreciate the positive feedback, pleased it was of use. I'd suggest you check out this video, it's a bit long at 45 mins as it summarises lots of individual videos, some bit's won't be relevant as you've already made the commitment to go electric, but think it will help. ua-cam.com/video/0QR9aIJtf2U/v-deo.html
One thing to watch out for on the Mokka is the possessed by the devil, the car is trying to kill you button ;-) the automatic lane correction feature is particularly strong, it causes me issues when driving down country lanes near home, it seems to think changes in tarmac colour is me going over white lines and it tries to steer me out of trouble, but instead steers me into it. I've asked the dealer if it can be permanently switched off, but apparently not, so every time I drive I have to hold the button down for 5 secs to switch it off. Might be worth asking the dealer to show you how, I'm sure they'll know what I'm talking about. Other than that it's a great car, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Our daughter has mine at the moment so she doesn't have to buy petrol to get to work (great timing on your behalf).
@@baggiewhite Thanks Mark, that's good to know as my commute invloves a fair amount of rural driving. I'll be looking out for that particular 'safety' feature! :)
@@baggiewhite Brilliant! Thanks again. I'm delighted to be getting out of a diesel but slightly apprehensive about range as my commute is just under 100 miles round trip. My work has chargers so hoping to be using the company chargers for the majority of my energy consumption. I'm also interested in seeing just how good the pre-heating of the car will be during the winter when I can use mains power to defrost and prepare the car for me in the morning/evening rather than using the cars batteries to defrost and heat the car up for the journey. But overall just excited to finally get a chance to experience an ev. Hopefully not too steep a learning curve!! :)
@@sprotacus 100 miles round trip will be fine, but will need to plug in each night. Not had to preheat the Mokka yet, but works fine on my wife’s e2008.
That red trim screams "teen gamer" but otherwise looks like a lovely EV!
Great video Mark. I've just ordered exactly the same mokka. Any update on the vehicle now you've been driving it for a while ? Thanks Dale
Thanks Dale, the main thing is the lane correction feature, designed to warn you when you cross a white line without indicating, it’s overly sensitive and tries to correct us when driving on the country lanes round here (even though they have no white lines) it seems to sense changes in tarmac colour as lines, so it can feel at times like it’s trying to steer for you when you don’t want it to. Unfortunately you can’t permanently switch it off, so we have to hold a button down for 5 secs to disable it, other than that the car is great. However, I am going to sell the car this week probably (nothing wrong with the car) but my circumstances have changed and I have a long range Tesla on order, we plan on doing some European and Scandinavian road trips next year too and want something with longer range and a charging network I can rely on outside of the UK (finding the UK networks has got loads better recently as Gridserve replace all the old chargers at service stations). The good news is that the Mokka has hardly lost any money in 4 months and 3000 miles, think this is the combination of high 2nd hand car prices and concern about petrol supply and pricing pushing folks towards buying an EV, so looks like EV’s are holding their price better than expected.
Thanks for getting back and good luck with the tesla.
One more thing what was the real-time range like for A roads and country lanes .
@@dalefinck5280 probably around 160 for A roads with traffic lights and junctions if you use regen braking, drops to around 140 on Dual Carriageways as there’s no regen opportunities. I always use eco mode on motorways and dual carriageways as you don’t need the extra power once you’re up to speed. In Lindsey’s car (Peugeot e2008) which has the same battery and powertrain we got over 200 on holiday just tootling round the Bournemouth area, I’d expect the Mokka to be the same. EV driving is the opposite of combustion engine, the more stop start the better, long cruising is the worst for range.
Great video, subscribed and liked! May i know if either this or the e2008 have auto steer whilst cruise cruise is active? Also, is there any reason you chose to keep the e2008 over the Mokka e? As I thought the latter was a better package
Neither car had auto steer, although the Mokka had a possessed by the devil mode, whereby it would overcorrect the steering down country lanes when it couldn't see white lines and would try to steer me into a ditch on regular occasions it was also impossible to switch it off permanently so was a pain in the a*** to switch it off before each journey, this was one of the main reasons we kept the e2008 over the Mokka. The other reason was the Mokka felt old fashioned by design internally where the e2008 felt more modern. It's worth bearing in mind that these videos are a few years old now and things may have changed
Waiting for my ultimate nav e to be delivered.
Hi I’m stuck between the Mokka and 2008e do they both have heated steering wheels? Auto adjustable seats and heated seats? Thanks.
Not sure about the current spec (our e2008 is a year old now) but the e2008 doesn't have a heated steering wheel, the seats don't auto adjust, but are heated on both cars. Heated steering wheel isn't really necessary as you can set the timer to preheat the cars in a morning, so no more cleaning frost of the windows either. We've now sold our Mokka (I've had a Tesla Model 3) and we had to choose which car to keep and which one to sell. We decided to keep the e2008 and sell the Mokka which tells you which one we prefer out of the two. Both nice cars, identical EV platform below the body work, so same sort of range, but the e2008 seemed quicker and is a lot more modern on the inside. Either way I'm sure you'll be happy with either car, but for us the e2008 is better
@@baggiewhite wow great thank you. I was just wondering how much it costs you to fill the car from 0 to full at home and how long it takes. My wife will be using the car for work and she has a 25 mile round trip daily. So I’m hoping I don’t have to charge it every night. Really sad that a full electric car doesn’t have electric seats.
@@taz2392 we have a 7kw pod point charger installed and we are on the Octopus Go Tariff and pay 5.5p per kwh for 5 hours each day, so we rarely charge from empty as that would take longer than 5 hrs to charge, so we plug in when it gets down to about 50% as it will then charge to full in less than 5 hrs. Two charges from 50% at 5.5p per kwh = 1 full charge. 50kw battery * 5.5p = £2.75 for a full charge. That tariff is due to expire soon and think it will be 7.5p so goes up to £3.75 (still a bargain compared to petrol or diesel). Obviously you need to do the maths for your energy tariff. Octopus seem to do the best EV tariff imho, can supply a referral code if you want one which will put £50 credit onto your account.
I'm torn between the Mokka e and the 2008e so tha ks for this video! I'm leaning towards the 2008, also their dealsership is much closer than Vauxhall so makes nipping to the garage when necessary easier😁
@@LS-ly8gl I went for the e-2008 so glad I did it’s great.
nice for a second EV, love how reflective the paintwork seems !!.........just off base a little Mark, I thought of a question yesterday and couldn't find an answer to it. We live in a small village and have power cuts now & then, do you know what happens to the charge cycle if you are hooked up and charging and the power goes off ?....does it just restart charging when the power comes back on, and what happens to the home charger (Pod Point will be ours) when it drops power and restarts whilst connected ?
Haha, I put it in the garage last night to keep it clean ready for the video today. As for the power cut question, that’s a good one, I have no idea tbh. Our Octopus Go Faster Tariff starts at 8.30pm so I expect we wouldn’t be in bed when a power cut occurs so we can monitor the situation, I’d expect it’ll just switch into normal charge mode if the timer had already kicked in. On another tangent we’ll be unplugging ours if we get a storm, last year a couple got struck by lightning outside our house and it blew all sorts of electrical devices in our house, won’t be risking tha5 with the car.
now youv'e done it, when did Octopus introduce Go Faster ?? do you think you need to do another video on the differences between that and Go ? Must admit first I had heard of it ??, it looks a little like Agile is it ?
Think it’s been a while, but it’s not well publicised. It’s 5.5p per kwh rather than 5p but lasts for 5 hours rather than 4, so worth it. When you sign up they give you a choice of available time slots as they are trying to manage the load on the grid, so the sooner you sign up the better. The only issue we’ve found is that we’ve come home after 8.30 a couple of times so missed the full cheap time slot, but not often enough for it to be an issue. Still not sure I’d go for Agile though, not sure I have the spare time to monitor it.
Btw, have our biggest journey yet this weekend, down to Bournemouth so have all my strategic charge points noted
yes just found it, as an octopus customer you would have thought they might have told me about go faster lol
My wife has got the elite on order. Can you please tell me how many miles do you get to the Kw/hr. great video review.
Hi there, we’re yet to do any miles in the Mokka as we took delivery just before our holiday where the ferries were already booked in my wife’s e2008, but as that is built on the same platform O expect rhe Mokka will be the same. Round town we get around 170 miles to a charge, but motorway and dual carriageway long journeys probably as low as 120. We’ve been touring Bournemouth and the New Forest this week and as all the driving is low speed and lots of regen braking and the weather is warm I reckon we’re getting over 200 miles which is staggering. We’ve done over 300 miles so far this week and all it’s cost us in charging is about £12 which is bonkers. Once you get used to it you won’t go back, as you’ve seen we liked our first EV so much we bought another. Will post a video next week on holidaying in an EV so you can see what public charging is like, so subscribe for the notifications. Also if you haven’t sorted out your home energy tariff I suggest switching to Octopus and then once it’s up and running and you have a smart meter and ask to go on their Octopus Go Faster tariff, you’ll be able to charge the car for around £1.50 and if you use my referral code in the comments below you’ll get a £50 credit (approx 3000 miles for free). Enjoy your new car.
Thank you for your reply, I do own a Jaguar I-Pace which is wonderful, we just did a 129 mile run and it took 126 miles off the range which I thought was very good. I am already of Octopus Go. So that makes for very cheaply driving.
My wife has now got her Mokka e and it’s great, What Car only give it 3 stars, why, it really is very good. Don’t but it if you have a large family it’s too small but for the two of us it’s great.
I've heard people complain about the quality of the picture on the reverse camera. Is it that bad?
I've never had one before until we bought the e2008 and Mokka e, so I don't have anything to compare with tbh, but both seem pretty good to me, more than adequate to stop me reversing into things, I also like the aerial view camera too, it seems like witchcraft to me, either that or there's a drone following me round taking aerial footage.
@@baggiewhite Ok. Might be that people have high expectations or something? I don't. Im getting one my self so I will be the judge. Can't be that bad. 😁
@@seventhstate I've just been out and thought I'd take a photo, if you let me have your email address I'll send it you and you can see for yourself
You can find my review of the Peugeot e2008 here for comparison. - ua-cam.com/video/mW-qBHOuisU/v-deo.html
Hi Mark, Please can I grab your referral code for Octopus. Looking to switch as my e-2008 turns up on 21st. Thanks.
Sure, use this link. Worth starting the process asap as it takes a while for the switch and then to get the smart meter up and running. Initially you need to go on the standard tariff and then once up and running ask them to switch you to the Go Faster tariff (find this is mroe flexible than just the Go tariff). Enjoy the e2008 it’s a great car. Here’s the referal code/link - share.octopus.energy/ideal-ash-761
@@baggiewhite great, thank you.
Thanks for using my referral code Matt just had an email confirming your switch. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the e2008 when you get it.
@@baggiewhite can I use your referral code please
@@phillhiggins2 by all means, in fact I’ve already had an email from Octopus saying you’re switching, so thanks for using it. What EV do you have (or are getting btw)
Switch to Octopus and share £100 with me using this link share.octopus.energy/ideal-ash-761 you need a standard tariff first and a smart meter installed, then you can switch to Octopus Go, Octopus Go Faster or the Octopus Agile tariff for cheap off peak energy