Make Kitesurfing In LIGHTWIND FUN
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How do you like lightwindsessions ?
with a foil and a 9m2.....
14-16 knots, boots & airush razor 13m👌👌
Maybe I would like a larger kite, but what type of kite would be good for unhooking in a size of approx. 15m? I’d say an XR type of kite, or a GTS? I would then still use my 142 Naish Monarch, because freestyle!
14-16 knots is lightwind? You guys are spoiled by wind. Light wind - this is wind when you barely can go upwind with standatd TT kitesurfing technique using 15-17m kite and door board with 7-8 k. sq. cm. board (like 160 x 48 or so). And this is 7-9 knots.
Great video! Another factor for I've noticed for lightwind riding - the outside temperature. Cold air is denser and so we need less wind speed in a cold place than a warm one to generate the same amount of power in the kite.
light days are awesome, spots arn't crowded on these days and it's a challenge to keep going which makes it really fun with a 12m in less then 12 knots of wind.
Great video Ben! Some new info there that I hadn't even considered before about kite shape choice. Thank you.
Sehr cool!
good vid Ben. Light wind can be also useful to practice big air tricks like one footers and board offs. I like to practice them in 18 Kts. with a 12m.
Great video here, I love also light wind session, I totally agree with you and you learn something to me about the benefit of C-Shape in light wind (around 10 knots and under I use a 14m single strut kite but it is not made to make tricks it is mostly about riding/carving, around 12knot I can have fun with my 11m 3 struts open-c shape). I agree so much on the importance of the kiteboard, I have 2 136x41 boards, and one has a huge rocker and the other is quite flat ; the difference is about 2/3knots and most important I can have fun with the flatter one when I can barely ride with the other one...it was my beginner board, so I may buy a newer one probably a little big bigger (ie : 139x43) for my 75kg weight. I ride with 24m lines and 27 when I use the 14m single strut kite.
Thank you for you feedback ! I‘m happy that some of my tips inspired you 😊🤘
Excellent video Ben, I like the how you separate, then explain the different aspects. Recommending only a few suggestions on each aspect, keeps it practical & easier to appreciate subtle things that are important, that otherwise could be overlooked! Well done!
Thank you for the feedback 😊🙌
I'm a somewhat beginner of only 3 years experience and I really love light wind days. I can go out with a 12m2 and 10-12 knots and have a blast with my buddies. And I fell very safe in these conditions :) Plus the homespot is nearly empty :)
wonderful video !!
Dieeeser Spot😍😍richtig geile Aufnahmen!
Hab bei der Überschrift im ersten Moment gelesen : "Make Kitesurfing great again" 😂
Haha 😂 würde auch passen 😛🤘
Really fascinating considerations about kite type. I ride XR6s and can ride them in very low wind as long as the water is flat but like you said, I did notice an immediate loss of power as soon as the speed drops (so coming in fast and feeling powered for a trick and losing all power as soon as I edge or send the kite). I thought this was unavoidable since the power is generated by apparent wind but you're saying normally less powerful kite shapes are less affected by this. I'm really curious now.
rad video dude !
Hello my friend and thanks for your knowledge.
I am a quite experienced and advanced windsurfer and I am a beginner kite surfer I am just able to kitesurfing under predictable conditions , I can water start easily, ride here and there and I can travel upwind. So no more big difficulties 😄
I haVe a question. Whenever the wind goes down as some days before that I was enjoying kiting ,with my 9m kite and finally the wind dropped down, I couldn’t maintain my speed and my upwind skill so I had to come back by bodydrag. My board is a carbon one 1.40x 42. And I could ride it and maintain my planning only downwind and by making some figures of 8
I tried once a big board 1,59x 45 and EVERYTHING was very easy. A coach that I know told me that I could buy something like that in order to use it in light wind conditions and always on the safe side especially if there are not so many riders close buy to give me a hand of help. Another coach said that with my 80 kilos I should NEVER ride something longer than 1,45 x43.and that even if I will buy this big board, I will never be better as it is so easy and that anyway in some sessions more I will be anyway much better and familiar with the board that I own now so I will not need the big one anymore, not even from the lightwind
What is your opinion. I would appreciate if you can give me an idea
From my experience Alaia type of board allows you to go in really low conditions and have some fun
Thanks Ben. Great tips and well explained. Was on audio only and it was like being taught by a laid back Arnold Schwarzenegger 😃
Haha 😂 The german accent lasts for ever 😝
Ich komm zum üben😃💪super
Hi Ben
Great video, thanks!
Something I missed and would like to know more about is how to trim/depower the bar for lightwind.
I keep hearing that one should actually depower a bit in light wind, but I have no clue why or how much is needed.
True - good Idea !
I'm still a beginner, but here is what I understand :
If you ride with trim to minimum (i.e. "not" depowered at all, let's call-it like this) this mean you have "long" front lines, and thus "short" back lines (relatively speaking). And having short back lines means that a slight pull on the bar can lead to an excess angle of attack in light wind (not enough lift from the wind to keep front lines tight), leading to back stalling.
If you shorten the front lines by trimming, you will thus extend the back lines (still relatively speaking), and avoid (or push back) back stalling.
Correct me if I'm wrong ?
Nice vid as usual Ben. You mention parking the kite and feeling the resistance of the bar. Is this better than working the kite to generate speed? Also do you avoid edging as hard as riding powered, as sometimes I feel I can stall the kite a bit when that happens. My biggest kite is a 13.5 gts and I always assumed the xr would be better in lightwinds based on the shape. But with the less struts the gts would be the preferred lightwind model?
Hey Steven, thank you !
You can work the kite up and down but this will only generate power if you make a low sinus carve (beside the waterstart). If you wonna go upwind or generate speed in most cases it works better when not working the kite to much...
In my opinion the xr just pretend to have power... To me the kite with more consistent power is the gts...
love your videos they are realy helpfull. 🤙
Thank you buddy !
Top! Finde darüber könnte man gerne tiefer ins Thema gehen! Also wie man auf dem Wasser sich richtig verhält um das meiste aus dem Wind zu holen.
Stimmt, das wäre ein ganzes Video für sich...
Good content 👍
Die eins 👏🏻😍
Ahhh Lennard wo warst du???
Hi Ben, great video and channel!, curious advice on trying to use the same board for light and strong wind. Can you expand on why's that? Also, you say the xr6 seems like it generates power but it doesn't. Can you expand? Are you only referring to big sizes only? Lastly, which gts sizes were you riding in the video? Thanks!
Hey Hugo, thank you for the feedback!
(once again my personal opinion)
About the board: When I go kitesurfing I try to keep things similar. The wind changes all the time, the water surface and current changes from one second to the other. The challenge is to do the same trick in all kind of conditions. That‘s why I have only one board for riding in straps. With my weight and size it is a 139cm choice. I know my board, I know how it reacts no mater the conditions. This gives me simply more space to compensate other things that are always changing all the time...
About the xr6: Yes in light winds I felt it more extremely. The kite does already pull a lot by it selfe but when I‘m edging hardly into the wind, like it is needed for a backmobe for example, the kite stalls down.
This image could make more clear what I mean (just to visualize it better)
Every kite has (in that speed it is flying) a power potential of 100%, a xr6 offers already 80% of these 100% by simply riding and if you are popping hardly there is only 20% left to pull you up.
A gts has a potential of 100% aswell but offers you only 60% by riding, If you are popping hardly it pulls you out of the water with another 40%. (The rest must be compensated with kitecontrol )
This is not only when it comes to big sizes, but you are right. The bigger the kite and the lower the wind the more you will feel it...
In the video I‘ve been riding a 15m gts.
Could I answer the questions good enough ?
good Vid 🤙
Hi, nice work 👍
Do you have any experience with single skin or foil kite? Wouldn't it be better to use one of them in the light wind?
Good question - I personally enjoy the performance of tubekites a lot. But they are pulling like a truck even in low wind...
In another more recent video you compared the Nexus 15m being more powerful in lightwind thatn the GTS 15m.
So my question: which kite should I buy for best low wind performarnce: XR 15m, GTS 15m, or Nexus 15m? (Or 17m?)
i love to have a 18m north juice kite for low wind sessions
😊🙌
Hallo Ben🍭einfach herrlich Dir zu folgen🐎und erst am Bodensee 🌿hätte ich ein Feldstecher könnte ich Dich vielleicht sehen🐕wartet unterdessen Linzi (Podenco Windhund) brav auf Dich im Wohnmobil 🍀Grüssli Anne 🇨🇭
Moin Ben. Sehr cooles Video. Wie testet man deiner Meinung nach am besten verschieden Bretter (gerade jetzt wo testivals wohl eher nicht anstehen)? Würde auch sehr gerne mal unterschiedliche Shapes und Größen unter den Füßen haben.
Danke aus dem Norden. 😉
Das ist ne gute Frage. Normalerweise gibts dazu die Testevents. Woher kommst du genau ?
Excellent, another well explained easy to understand and packed with information tutorial video,
I definitely need your advice regarding kite size and type for under 10 knots, am 65kg currently have three boards, crazyfly Raptor 142 x42 a spleene session 45 145x46, and a nobile flying carpet 160x46, ( yes i know i have a compulsive buying disorde issue 😆😂🤣)
I wanted a dedicated single strut lightwind kite from what i gathered it stays in the air better as it's lighter letting me Focus more on other things, am looking to do any tricks just any day spent in water going up and down makes me happy, i was looking at slingshot ghost 15m or airush one 14m or similar size of the airush ultra, or rrd emotion BUT after watching your video am beginning to think i'll be overpowered, what would you recommend please? My current biggest kite is flysurfer stoke 12m
Many thanks and keep those videos coming please,
Hey, lucky you with your weight. 65kg will allow you to ride when nobody else does. I personally would choose the airuah one. Simply because I had it in my hands already. I think you don’t need to be scared of beeing overpowered. On big kites you can handle more power better.
Wish you fun and good progress in sunny lightwind days 😊🤘
@@BenBeholzVlogs I'm also thinking about the Airush one 14m. I am 80KG... Theres a good package deal that includes a Switch board and harness and pump included. Would you say 14m Airush one will do the job for the light winds at Bodensee? I was looking at a 17m Ocean Rodeo Flite 2019 for same price as a package but not sure if it will overpower me on windy days... please give me your Godly Kitesurf advice :)
@@OzzySafa I never rode the airush - 14 is also in most cases not really designed as a lightwindkite. I can’t really help you out in this case, anybody here who knows that kite well ?
That was a great videos. I'm 63kg and only got a 12m rebel, just try to play with the light wind day, should I buy a bigger board or foilboard for lgiht wind ? I think I will also try to get a bigger kite aswell like the Airush ultra v3 14m/17m, any advice on it thank you!
Hey, thank you ! I recon to buy a 14 for you... You'll love it :)
Do you always use 22mt with 13.5 and 15 or even more?
At the moment I use everywhere 24m
Interesting topic, good tips.
You probably associated "lightwind" with "Boden vom See" when you tagged this video "#Bodensee". Or it's winter dreams.
Hey, I‘ve been at „Bodensee“ when recording that video. That‘s why... The shots where from Sardinia... 😊🤘
Hi Ben,
I am just getting started with kitesurf. Despite my kite classes taken in strong winds and with small kites, I bought a 147 board and 13.5 kite (96kg, 183cm). As the kite season gets closer I am planning to buy a second kite, just to cover a wider range of knots when I will go for the sessions. That is why I was wondering if a 15sqm should really be my choice. Would you have any suggestions for me? Thanks
Cool ! Wellcome to the sport ! Where are you kiting and how strong is the wind there in avarage ?
@@BenBeholzVlogs Thanks man! :) I am kiting in south Italy (not so far from Sardinia) in Apulia. To be honest I can definitely say that, according to the past season (where I have been taking classes) I now that on average there can be a couple of days a week, where the winds blow between 17 and 26 knots and although I 've never been kiting with lighter winds than those I am pretty sure there are many days where light winds take the main stage.
Than I definitely recomment you to buy a 15m. I think you will love it a lot. This will allow you aswell to go on a smaller board in 1 or 2 seasons...
@@BenBeholzVlogs Great! I am really looking forward to mastering at least some basic techniques, so that can I can start to have some fun. thanks for the tip and (hopefully) I will see you soon in the water here in Apulia! :D
Hallo Ben tolle Videos ich habe mir einen XR7 15LW bestellt, ist dies eine gute Wahl bzw. auch leichter als normale kites daher core angeblich eher schwerere kites sind?
Hey, der Kite ist sehr gut und leicht. Er ist schwerer als der Nexus oder der Gts aber das liegt daran dass er 2 Struts mehr hat. Core verwendet LW material was zwar empfindlicher ist aber seeeehr viel leichter... Also geh gut mit deinem neuen Baby um. Du wirst es lieben...
@@BenBeholzVlogs hey Danke, hast Du Erfahrungen gemacht das die kites tatsächlich schneller kaputt gehen?
@@BenBeholzVlogs ist es normal das an den Ecken ein Schriftzug zu sehen ist? Von der Fabrik aus zB.? Auf relativ vielen Stellen würde mit einen Bleistift herumgekrachselt
@@joman334 Ja das ist ganz normal
Hi Ben cooles Videos. Gerade hier bei uns ist immer wenig Wind. Ein Kumpel hat mir ein 19m2 geschenkt. Ozone edge. Ist das zu gross? Nur zum Einstieg. Bin Anfänger. Komme vom Wakeboard. Lg aus Valencia.
Hey, danke ! Das ist super auch zum Einsteigen...
@@BenBeholzVlogs danke für deine Antwort Ben ✌🏻
Hi!
A few weeks ago I took my 15m LW-Tube kite out with a 138x41 board.
Eventhough the kite was pulling "like a truck" (adjuster completely open and sweetspot very far up the depower lines) I struggled a lot to go upwind.
Any Tipps to avoid the struggle?
Cheers Lukas
What year is the 15m ?
It's a 2020 duotone juice
Könnte man nicht eigentlich auch ein Foil-Kite (xlite zB husthust) in 12m bei Leichtwind mit einem normalen Board fahren?
Werden ja als leichter angepriesen. Oder ist da zu wenig Zug drauf?
Willst Du nicht mal eines bei deinem Team ordern und das ausprobieren? 😂
Grüße aus Leipzig,
Stefan
Hey, das ist ne gute Frage. Habe ich noch nicht ausprobiert... lg
I'm often out in the UK with a 17m and 142 or 155 board. A lot of your videos are with a 15m. For free riding hooked in what would you say. 15m GTS or Nexus..
Hey,
for hooked freeriding I would choose the Nexus...
Dude you are ripping as always!
Hey man question on board size: Being a bigger guy (90kg) you went for 144 in boots. Why did you go for the 139 vs the 141 on straps? I am 93kg, mainly do old school (and looping) and some freestyle. I have always ridden 139 in straps but been wondering if going into 142 makes more sense. I thought 139 would be better holding a kite in overpowered conditions but in reality I get few of those conditions, so maybe for allaround 142 would be better? I also have a door size light wind board and a foil, but those are session savers more than pure twintip enjoyment. Thanks for making awesome content.
Hey,
thank you for your feedback !
What kind of board is your 139 ? And will the 142 be the exact same board ?
@@BenBeholzVlogs great question! I come from a "Old North" Team Series 140cm in Carbon. That shape has morphed into the current Jaime Textreme. I have been considering both the Jaime Textreme and the Choice.
@@MrSpanishPeanuts To be honest I would not recommend you a board bigger than 140cm. Only for boots and wakestyle something between 142-144 could be good.
@@BenBeholzVlogs Thanks man!
HI !
How much big can I go with a board and boots (108kg+) with a Pulse 14m or Juice15 or Edge 15m ?
Cheers.
Ben very detailed and interesting video!
I have a 17m Zephyr 27m lines with 148/47 Bronq XL board (find both very good), I'm 80kg, can go as you say 11 knots in small chop but upwind only from 12/13 knots, my teacher told me to move it in sinus to maximize speed, and to me seams work... as you told never charge to much upwind is important, and is even more important never sheet in completely the bar or connect the lines to the kite in the strong wind position to achieve the same result, so to not stall the kite
My 17m sucks most of the time. It just does not get me going most of the time but my 12m will pull when it seem that the 17m will do.
What kite is it and which year ?
Was hälst du davon ein directional für Lightwind zu nutzen?
Meine Meinung: Wenn du directinal fahren willst ist es super. Geht früh los und macht spass. Wenn du aber Twinntip fahren willst würde ich eine Board wählen das sowol in leichtwind als auch bei viel wind spass macht. One Board for all...
@@BenBeholzVlogs 👍 was kannst da empfehlen?
Hab mir vor kurzem das Choice 4 in 139 zugelegt, bis welche bedingungen kommst du damit aufs wasser?
Hey, ich selber fahre ebenfalls das 139 mit 90kg für alle windbereiche... Ist super !!!
@@BenBeholzVlogs Nice, dann bin ich mal gespannt ✌️
Macht es eigentlich einen Unterschied ob Süsswasser oder Salzwasser?
Das kann sehr gut sein…
vermutlich aber so klein, dass es nicht nennenswert ist ^^
@@danielgasser8925 Ich habe beide Meinungen dazu schon gehört. Kann aber keine bestätigen... ;)
@@BenBeholzVlogs okay, wäre wohl eh nicht so einfach 😅✌🏼
Hi Ben, Alex from Amsterdam here. I am contemplating my lightwind options right now. I have 11, 9, 7 xr6, 75kg weight, 13m woo pr, 135/40.5 monarch straps. Do I buy 13.5 or 15m and xr, gts or nexus 2. I find it hard to compare the bigger models because there are not that much reviews. I am leaning to 13.5 nexus 2,
Hey Alex, what do you want to do with the new lightwind kite ? Is it just freeriding and oldschool or also more advanced wakestyle like handlepasses ?
@@BenBeholzVlogs mostly big air, one footers, boardoff, rotations and more hooked in stuff. Lightwind is for fun and trying stuff without mega crashes.
Than I would recommend you a 15m Nexus 2 😊🤘
Hi Ben, great videos. But why not recommend the 13.5m xr6 if Alexander wants to develop his big air style?
@@hugovolzoliveira6913 @KITESURFING By Ben Beholz correct me if I am wrong. The nexus has 2 less struts and there by less weight, better relaunch and easier to fly in low wind. Now 13.5 or 15, since I have an 11 xr6, I only need to gap the sub 18 knots wind range and there for 15m is best
The most important question is: where is this epic spot in Sardinia? Porto Botte?
that was stintino
: )
Huch
Man kann nicht immer performen 😋🤘
I have a 13m Ozone Edge. There is nothing more satisfying than hitting the water and practicing some tricks when all the dudes with 10-12m kites are stuck on the beach :)
I have a Zephyr V5, a person on the beach this summer told me that he passed front the Zephyr to the Edge, it was slightly better and the wind range are very similar...
you ever tried a Zephyr?
from how many knots you can go? for me in small chop 11 like confirm Ben, but still can't go upwind until 12/13
@@GaetanoCrisci I’ve used a Zephyr. You can fly that thing in virtually no wind but it’s super slow. I find my 13m edge needs just a couple more knots than the Zephyr but that it’s a ton more fun!!!!
Nr 15k
Yeah !!!