Hi Kelly, my name is Karsten, I'm 15, and I'm currently in Northern California. I've been having a tough time streamer fishing. I've fished streamers 40 days this year and haven't hooked a single brown trout. I'm getting 15-20 follows every outing but none commit. I'm changing my fly color, size, and profile every 10 minutes, I'm changing my retrieves, strip length, and types of water but nothing is working. I'm usually fishing a 3-6 ft fluorocarbon leader depending on conditions with a Orvis depth charge 7-8 ips sink tip with a 30 foot head and intermediate running line. I've tried running tandem rigs too like a dungeon and a smoke wagon but they're always locked on the big fly. On somedays they won't start following until I tie on a huge fly like a menage a dungeon. Pressure isn't even a factor either. I haven't seen another boat on the water in 10 months. The river has 1400 browns per mile according to the latest survey. Do you have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Kelly's the expert but let me throw this out there . . . I get more takes fishing upstream compared to across or down. I don't know what river you're fishing--it sounds like it has more browns than the ones I fish--but I read something by Ralph Cutter about a thousand years ago that made sense and I mostly try to make it look like the streamer is moving downstream with the current. Not always possible to get the angles but you do what you can.
Stop fishing big stuff. Big flies don’t aalways equal big fish, especially if there aren’t many in there or their forage isn’t that big. Try a smaller fly like a Near Nuff Sculpin, or at least a smaller profile. I fish 200 days a year and we have success on streamers on just about every one. Follows are cool, but they don’t mean much more than the fish is curious. They’re making you and your oversized fly before they even think about opening their mouths. Get over the “chucking meat” nonsense, you’ll catch more fish.
@@PaulKing-h9m I've also tried smaller stuff too, including the near nuff. I've thrown slumpbusters, pine squirrel leeches, hale bopps, wooly buggers, and a bunch of other single hook flies. I've caught an insane amount of rainbows on those while targeting the browns but I haven't gotten any follows or eats on smaller stuff. I've also tried throwing really sparse patterns but those don't work either.
@@haldasinger6440 I've experimented with that in my boat and that technique gets a bunch of follows. I'll throw it upstream and strip the fly parallel to the bank for a decent ways and then curve it towards the boat. It makes sense because baitfish aren't strong swimmers. That doesn't work either though.
Is this one of the best crayfish imitations from a fly angling point of view? The gear anglers have a lot of other ways to suggest the forage type, that is a staple for stillwater fish populations. The Ned rig for example, I saw somewhere lately a designer came up with a 'Ned fly'. But that's kind of odd, given that Denny Rickards designs have been around a lot earlier than the Neds, and by many accounts have nailed the crayfish imitation challenge. Another curious thing, has Kelly and his fishing party experienced steelhead fishing withdrawal synthoms, when the BC rivers got too high to fish? Welcome to the universe of migratory fish species angling (not like resident brown trout river or lake fishing, which is far more predictable and reliable, . . the world of salmon or sea run trout angling, is a world of big high's and really terrible low's). And there seems to be little logic or control over those high's or low's.
Nice , Greg has some really cool tying materials for us to tie with . Thanks
Loving the look of that stuff... a nice buggy mess! Montana Fly has some great products.
very nice fly Thanks
Would work well in the saltwater here in Scotland for sea trout as a rag worm early season..
Awesome! Thank you.
Thanks for the video!!
Great stuff!!
Come on, give us the 30 minute clip for a three minute fly, it’s what we expect.😉
Awesome products
It certainly is a buggy mess, but that's probably what the fish will like. Keep the good stuff coming Kelly.
Hi Kelly, my name is Karsten, I'm 15, and I'm currently in Northern California. I've been having a tough time streamer fishing. I've fished streamers 40 days this year and haven't hooked a single brown trout. I'm getting 15-20 follows every outing but none commit. I'm changing my fly color, size, and profile every 10 minutes, I'm changing my retrieves, strip length, and types of water but nothing is working. I'm usually fishing a 3-6 ft fluorocarbon leader depending on conditions with a Orvis depth charge 7-8 ips sink tip with a 30 foot head and intermediate running line. I've tried running tandem rigs too like a dungeon and a smoke wagon but they're always locked on the big fly. On somedays they won't start following until I tie on a huge fly like a menage a dungeon. Pressure isn't even a factor either. I haven't seen another boat on the water in 10 months. The river has 1400 browns per mile according to the latest survey. Do you have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Kelly's the expert but let me throw this out there . . . I get more takes fishing upstream compared to across or down. I don't know what river you're fishing--it sounds like it has more browns than the ones I fish--but I read something by Ralph Cutter about a thousand years ago that made sense and I mostly try to make it look like the streamer is moving downstream with the current. Not always possible to get the angles but you do what you can.
Stop fishing big stuff. Big flies don’t aalways equal big fish, especially if there aren’t many in there or their forage isn’t that big. Try a smaller fly like a Near Nuff Sculpin, or at least a smaller profile. I fish 200 days a year and we have success on streamers on just about every one. Follows are cool, but they don’t mean much more than the fish is curious. They’re making you and your oversized fly before they even think about opening their mouths. Get over the “chucking meat” nonsense, you’ll catch more fish.
@@PaulKing-h9m I've also tried smaller stuff too, including the near nuff. I've thrown slumpbusters, pine squirrel leeches, hale bopps, wooly buggers, and a bunch of other single hook flies. I've caught an insane amount of rainbows on those while targeting the browns but I haven't gotten any follows or eats on smaller stuff. I've also tried throwing really sparse patterns but those don't work either.
@@haldasinger6440 I've experimented with that in my boat and that technique gets a bunch of follows. I'll throw it upstream and strip the fly parallel to the bank for a decent ways and then curve it towards the boat. It makes sense because baitfish aren't strong swimmers. That doesn't work either though.
Fish that river in the evening or early early morning. Browns in some waters will be way more active in low-light times and even at night.
I know youre partnered with mfc. But ill stick with not top dollar tying materials. The fish still take flies with cheaper materials
Is this one of the best crayfish imitations from a fly angling point of view? The gear anglers have a lot of other ways to suggest the forage type, that is a staple for stillwater fish populations. The Ned rig for example, I saw somewhere lately a designer came up with a 'Ned fly'. But that's kind of odd, given that Denny Rickards designs have been around a lot earlier than the Neds, and by many accounts have nailed the crayfish imitation challenge. Another curious thing, has Kelly and his fishing party experienced steelhead fishing withdrawal synthoms, when the BC rivers got too high to fish? Welcome to the universe of migratory fish species angling (not like resident brown trout river or lake fishing, which is far more predictable and reliable, . . the world of salmon or sea run trout angling, is a world of big high's and really terrible low's). And there seems to be little logic or control over those high's or low's.