Glad this helped! We did remove our swivel seat after 1 year due to how our layout changed. but a note to consider, it is better to get a swivel seat plate with an open plate, rather than the closed plate we have, as we found it annoying not having full access to the seat under storage. But if you are using the space for a heater or bulk storage and don't need to access it that much then it might be okay 👌👍
Not all vans do, and not sure how easy it'd be to get a double-seat base in, but people replace the doubles with singles all the time so if you really wanted, I'm sure it's possible!🙂
Hello, I see in other videos TrimmJimm base plate have the place for the seatbelt bolt on the base plate. Makes it easier to use. Good work and video. Thanx
Yes, the old TrimJim base plate has a seat belt specific hole, but that plate is also heavier. We spoke to Jim about the design change and he told us to just put in old seat belt hole and stretch over it.. and it works fine. 🙂 Both designs have pluses, but weight is a very important factor as it adds up so quickly.
Just a small tip regarding the drilled bolt to accept the seat belt cable. Threaded tubing used for pendant light fittings might be an easier option, it's called 'hollow all thread' and you can also get plastic bushes that press into the ends to protect the cables and then simply use steel/nylon nuts. ...might help someone. ps. nice video
Great video guys. We’ve been thinking of doing the same with our van conversion but we have a Ducato so may be a little different. Love the bubble wrap therapy idea 😂☺️
I'm not sure if they are M1 tested bit here is a link to one: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.amazon.co.uk/Kiravans-Ducato-Double-present-Campervan/dp/B01HGS1SJK&ved=2ahUKEwjXlZeg_9rmAhVyTxUIHWpqDrUQFjAEegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw1etO1Ig_9UvV1NKlDSRBTS Might be best to contact the company and see 😊 All the best for your conversion 😁
Hey guys, great video! This is the plate I've been looking at, does it raise the seat height significantly? If so, how does it affect ride comfort as a passenger (especially with a shelf above you!)? Cheers!
It does raise it enough for you to notice, but after a few trips, you get used to it. I (Polly) am usually the passenger and before, I could touch the floor with my feet. With the plate, I can't now (only just) but I've gotten used to it. The shelf is no obstacle at all, never banged our heads on it. The space still feels super open, even with the shelf above, more than any car. Hope this helps 🙂 Our only regret is not getting a swivel plate with an open-top, as to access under the seats we have to undo the bolts and swivel the seat.
With your specific base you went with it looks like you wont be able to access the under seat storage area, was the any reason you went for this type over one where there is access? Love you guys' videos!
The base we got is closed, so, theoretically, you can put a padlock on it and use it as a safe. At this moment in time, we would honestly recommend getting one with access as the base is not that easy to open up for you to use it as a safe (on a daily bases). And, moreover, the closed design can neutralise the use of that space completely, even for fitting tanks and heaters as maintenance becomes a hassel. Sooo, we wish we had the open access version ☺️
Hello and thank you for your video. I am looking for a Double Swivel Plates for a Peugeot Boxer. The link in your description does not work. Do you know where I can find one? Good evening
I can;t find it at the moment, but I know Kiravan's used to sell them. Here's their site: www.kiravans.co.uk/ Might be best to email or ring them and ask if they have any stock. 👍
Could this base be used to swivel the rear 2 seats of a crafter 90 degs so the bench is turned parallel with the side of the van, rather than perpendicular? I’m looking for a way of having forward facing seats for journeys but swivel to a ‘sofa’ when static.
It depends on the rear seat box, if it is the same dimensions as the twin front seats then the plate should fit. Swiveling it only 90 degrees will mean you'll need extra support on each side as there's no easy way to bolt it when swivelled 90 degrees.
Definitely cool but it would be better if it turned the other direction as you could leave the double seat against the side wall. I guess if in the United States if it swivels that way you do so. Do they make for the US? Or does it work with the Isa the same?
You can swivel the seat in either direction, but it is unstable without the securing bolts, so swiveling it 90 degrees won't make a stable seat, at least with this base. I've not actually seen a double swivel base that is secure at 90 degrees, only singles. This base company is UK based, for European vehicles but as long as the US Dodge/Mercedes sprinters have the same seat box shape, you might be able to re-purpose them for it, but don't quote us on that it might be best to double-check.
ALWAYS take of the battery when working on airbags. not just, dont turn the ignition... ALWAYS take off the battery. you can actually find a plug/unplug cable under neath the steering wheel so you don't need to take the interior appart to reacht the battery. other than that, it would be more interesting if the company that provided the swivle also gives a special bracket to install the seatbelt, it would be more correct if the seatbelt just stays next to the doorstep. just my 2 cents. thanks for the video and good luck with all the rest
Good question, looking on their site it doesn't specify the year of the models, so I can't be sure. Though my first instict is that they have probably changed the bolt locations... just a guess. The best thing to do is check with Jim himself - you can contact him from his TrimJim website. That's the swivel seat we got - www.vwinterior.co.uk/M1-vw-crafter-van-mercedes-sprinter-van-double-swivel-safe-base.html rjcampersolutions.co.uk/shop This is the other company that sells swivel plates and they give a bit more info - they specify 2006-2017 - so based on that I would assume they are different. Also, this company has a Single swivel for a Crafter 2017+, so you could contact then as well and ask if they have plans to make a double.
Sure here it is www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126104043161?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AskEt05NRv6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Qd1gIzSNTc6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I think it would be legal is the swivel plate installed is legal for that car and has been tested and approved but normal cars are much smaller so they might not have the turning circle available
I received this reply but don't see it anymore. will paste it for newcomers: "Freedom Strider replied: "If you instal a swivel plate on the drivers seat, then yeah, you can have all the seats swivelling :)" Thank you!
Not really, it spins freely but you have to manouver past the handbreak and the seatbelt column. As you spin, the 2 steel plates rub so you have to put some force into it
No, it becomes a bit harder to access, but you can swivel the top plate and reveal the full storage space. But, it would limit the opening, so it may decrease the size of thing that can enter. 👍
Am I understanding this right, this swivel thingy is for both right og left side double seats? For example I live where the drivers seat is on the left and the double seat is on the right. This would work for that?
I believe so, looking at the plate, each side shape and bolt placement seems identical. Best to check with the manufaturer, but I would bet that it would work.
Has anyone been able to find these mounts in the US? I've talked to a couple companies in the UK that make them, but they can't ship the mounts here for insurance reasons.
Your best bet is to contact this company on eBay: www.ebay.com/usr/customshop_designs_uk?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 They have links to US models of van not found here in Europe, so despite them being made here in the UK, they must ship them to the USA. it seems a Dodge Sprinter uses the same seat design as a regular Mercedes Sprinter (don't quote me on that though), I would ask them and see if they can help you out.
Hi guys, Just wondering if it’s possible to turn the double passenger seat and the driver so they are facing each other and if possible to put a table in between ? Just a thought. I’m still to start my conversion so long way to go :)
If you attach a swivel plate to the drivers seat, it is possible although with this double swivel plate, there are no securing bolts for a 90 degree turn, so wouldn't be stable. A different design of swivel base might be able to do it, not a bad idea to look into it.
Hi guys..I was wondering if you could help me before I go ahead and buy one?! How much space is needed between the door pillar where seat belt is located and the centre of the van in order to turn the seat.?? I have a shower cubicle in this corner..Will the seat go out the passenger door to turn,,in order for me to have enough room to turn the seat??
Hey Wade, okay so we went to measure it this morning. 1. Distances between stuff. a. Seat belt pillar to handbrake = 95cm b. You can pull the seat directly backwards (without spinning) to open the storage compartment = 25cm (from the passenger base box). So it extends 25cm in your living space. c. As it spins, there are slightly different rotation trajectories you can take. So, mid spin, around the moment the corner needs to pass the seat belt pillar, the other corner, swings out into your living space. The minimum it will cut into your living space is about 35cm and the max is about 45cm (depending on what rotation you pick) - the corner that swings out, is about 48cm from the seat belt pillar (so about half way across the passenger base box) 2. The seat doesn't go out the door and you can swivel it with the door closed, although it is sometimes easier to stand outside and turn for better leverage. Also, the plate does scratch either the seat belt pillar plastic or the hand brake, so we cut a slit in the plastic to let it spin freely and protect the hand break. :D
@@FreedomStrider Thanks a lot for the reply guys.. I am not sure I will be able to have one in mine unfortunately.. As my cubicle behind my drivers seat encroaches on the middle seat by about 130mm,,which I think will be too far
Not entirely sure, Promaster is a USA brand of van, so it might be worth checking out sites in the US that do single swivel seats and see if they do custom double swivel seat bases?
The only couple on here that explain every thing in detail thanks guys keep it up good luck on your adventures
Thanks 😀👍
Exactly it is really a micro step by step idiot proof instructions lol, and all clear on camera.
So impressed by how clearly you showed every step. Thanks so much
Thanks, glad we could help. 🙂
guys, this video is really helpfull. i wasn t sure about buying this but now definitly doing it. thanks
Glad this helped! We did remove our swivel seat after 1 year due to how our layout changed.
but a note to consider, it is better to get a swivel seat plate with an open plate, rather than the closed plate we have, as we found it annoying not having full access to the seat under storage.
But if you are using the space for a heater or bulk storage and don't need to access it that much then it might be okay 👌👍
Recently have been looking for swivel seat my van does not have the double front but I thought it was great to watch your little video
Not all vans do, and not sure how easy it'd be to get a double-seat base in, but people replace the doubles with singles all the time so if you really wanted, I'm sure it's possible!🙂
Hello, I see in other videos TrimmJimm base plate have the place for the seatbelt bolt on the base plate. Makes it easier to use. Good work and video. Thanx
Yes, the old TrimJim base plate has a seat belt specific hole, but that plate is also heavier. We spoke to Jim about the design change and he told us to just put in old seat belt hole and stretch over it.. and it works fine. 🙂 Both designs have pluses, but weight is a very important factor as it adds up so quickly.
Great teamwork.. and thank you for the info, this video has been extremely helpful.
Thanks 😊 - glad you found it useful
Just a small tip regarding the drilled bolt to accept the seat belt cable. Threaded tubing used for pendant light fittings might be an easier option, it's called 'hollow all thread' and you can also get plastic bushes that press into the ends to protect the cables and then simply use steel/nylon nuts. ...might help someone. ps. nice video
Yep that can also work ☺️
That was a very good informative install.👍
Thank you, it all went smoothly and we're really happy with it :)
Great video guys. We’ve been thinking of doing the same with our van conversion but we have a Ducato so may be a little different. Love the bubble wrap therapy idea 😂☺️
I'm not sure if they are M1 tested bit here is a link to one: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.amazon.co.uk/Kiravans-Ducato-Double-present-Campervan/dp/B01HGS1SJK&ved=2ahUKEwjXlZeg_9rmAhVyTxUIHWpqDrUQFjAEegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw1etO1Ig_9UvV1NKlDSRBTS
Might be best to contact the company and see 😊 All the best for your conversion 😁
You should of got a discount code from the seat base supplier. Lots of people are doing Winter time conversions.
Quite possibly, we'll email the guy with the video and see what he says perhaps :)
That looks great
Hey guys, great video! This is the plate I've been looking at, does it raise the seat height significantly? If so, how does it affect ride comfort as a passenger (especially with a shelf above you!)? Cheers!
It does raise it enough for you to notice, but after a few trips, you get used to it. I (Polly) am usually the passenger and before, I could touch the floor with my feet. With the plate, I can't now (only just) but I've gotten used to it. The shelf is no obstacle at all, never banged our heads on it. The space still feels super open, even with the shelf above, more than any car. Hope this helps 🙂
Our only regret is not getting a swivel plate with an open-top, as to access under the seats we have to undo the bolts and swivel the seat.
With your specific base you went with it looks like you wont be able to access the under seat storage area, was the any reason you went for this type over one where there is access? Love you guys' videos!
The base we got is closed, so, theoretically, you can put a padlock on it and use it as a safe. At this moment in time, we would honestly recommend getting one with access as the base is not that easy to open up for you to use it as a safe (on a daily bases). And, moreover, the closed design can neutralise the use of that space completely, even for fitting tanks and heaters as maintenance becomes a hassel.
Sooo, we wish we had the open access version ☺️
Hello and thank you for your video.
I am looking for a Double Swivel Plates for a Peugeot Boxer. The link in your description does not work.
Do you know where I can find one?
Good evening
I can;t find it at the moment, but I know Kiravan's used to sell them. Here's their site: www.kiravans.co.uk/
Might be best to email or ring them and ask if they have any stock. 👍
Could this base be used to swivel the rear 2 seats of a crafter 90 degs so the bench is turned parallel with the side of the van, rather than perpendicular? I’m looking for a way of having forward facing seats for journeys but swivel to a ‘sofa’ when static.
It depends on the rear seat box, if it is the same dimensions as the twin front seats then the plate should fit. Swiveling it only 90 degrees will mean you'll need extra support on each side as there's no easy way to bolt it when swivelled 90 degrees.
Definitely cool but it would be better if it turned the other direction as you could leave the double seat against the side wall. I guess if in the United States if it swivels that way you do so. Do they make for the US? Or does it work with the Isa the same?
You can swivel the seat in either direction, but it is unstable without the securing bolts, so swiveling it 90 degrees won't make a stable seat, at least with this base. I've not actually seen a double swivel base that is secure at 90 degrees, only singles. This base company is UK based, for European vehicles but as long as the US Dodge/Mercedes sprinters have the same seat box shape, you might be able to re-purpose them for it, but don't quote us on that it might be best to double-check.
ALWAYS take of the battery when working on airbags. not just, dont turn the ignition... ALWAYS take off the battery. you can actually find a plug/unplug cable under neath the steering wheel so you don't need to take the interior appart to reacht the battery. other than that, it would be more interesting if the company that provided the swivle also gives a special bracket to install the seatbelt, it would be more correct if the seatbelt just stays next to the doorstep.
just my 2 cents. thanks for the video and good luck with all the rest
www (dot) csp-shop(dot) com/en/interior/seat-belt-bracket-front-857-709-111-19937b.html
something like this, but this is for another make
Thanks for the tips 🙂
Cool mod
Hi, you made it look quite easy!. In your title you say Sprinter/Crafter. Do you know if this is the same for the new shape Crafter 2017 onwards?
Good question, looking on their site it doesn't specify the year of the models, so I can't be sure.
Though my first instict is that they have probably changed the bolt locations... just a guess.
The best thing to do is check with Jim himself - you can contact him from his TrimJim website.
That's the swivel seat we got - www.vwinterior.co.uk/M1-vw-crafter-van-mercedes-sprinter-van-double-swivel-safe-base.html
rjcampersolutions.co.uk/shop
This is the other company that sells swivel plates and they give a bit more info - they specify 2006-2017 - so based on that I would assume they are different. Also, this company has a Single swivel for a Crafter 2017+, so you could contact then as well and ask if they have plans to make a double.
@@FreedomStrider Thank you I`ve emailed a few companies now.
If it can swivel the other way so clockwise the belt would be on the back of the seat? Did you manage to get a discount code for your viewer?
The seatbelt has enough length to stretch around to the back of the seat, as we figured out later on. 👍😊 And no I'm afraid, no discount code.
Hé Guys, Where can I buy it ? Its asome in the neterlands i cant found it
There's a link to where we bought ours in the description but I don't know if he ships to the Netherlands, maybe worth writing him an email to ask
Can You suggest me the link for Ducato? Since the one that in description is expired.
Sure here it is
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126104043161?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AskEt05NRv6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Qd1gIzSNTc6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Is it legal in australia to do for normal cars? Wouldn’t there be side mirror block by the back of the seat?
I think it would be legal is the swivel plate installed is legal for that car and has been tested and approved but normal cars are much smaller so they might not have the turning circle available
Are you able to swivel the driver seat, when you have these installed please?
I received this reply but don't see it anymore. will paste it for newcomers:
"Freedom Strider replied: "If you instal a swivel plate on the drivers seat, then yeah, you can have all the seats swivelling :)"
Thank you!
Hm, interesting, not sure what happend - thanks for noticing that. 🙂
Can you swivel the 3rd one at the same time too ?
You can if you were to put a single swivel base on the drivers seat but we haven't done that 👍
@@FreedomStrider thank you so much for your quick answer..
Love your work ..
Thank you for sharing.
Maybe a silly question, do the seats swivel around smoothly?
Not really, it spins freely but you have to manouver past the handbreak and the seatbelt column. As you spin, the 2 steel plates rub so you have to put some force into it
@@FreedomStrider that's great thank you.
Do you lose access to the storage space underneath with these plates?
No, it becomes a bit harder to access, but you can swivel the top plate and reveal the full storage space. But, it would limit the opening, so it may decrease the size of thing that can enter. 👍
Am I understanding this right, this swivel thingy is for both right og left side double seats? For example I live where the drivers seat is on the left and the double seat is on the right. This would work for that?
I believe so, looking at the plate, each side shape and bolt placement seems identical. Best to check with the manufaturer, but I would bet that it would work.
@@FreedomStrider Yeh that what it looked like to me on the video, thats awesome :) but will for sure check first. Fantastic video btw :)
Has anyone been able to find these mounts in the US? I've talked to a couple companies in the UK that make them, but they can't ship the mounts here for insurance reasons.
You might be able to find them on eBay, what van do you have?
@@FreedomStrider Dodge Sprinter 2007!
Your best bet is to contact this company on eBay: www.ebay.com/usr/customshop_designs_uk?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
They have links to US models of van not found here in Europe, so despite them being made here in the UK, they must ship them to the USA. it seems a Dodge Sprinter uses the same seat design as a regular Mercedes Sprinter (don't quote me on that though), I would ask them and see if they can help you out.
Hi guys,
Just wondering if it’s possible to turn the double passenger seat and the driver so they are facing each other and if possible to put a table in between ? Just a thought.
I’m still to start my conversion so long way to go :)
If you attach a swivel plate to the drivers seat, it is possible although with this double swivel plate, there are no securing bolts for a 90 degree turn, so wouldn't be stable. A different design of swivel base might be able to do it, not a bad idea to look into it.
Hi guys..I was wondering if you could help me before I go ahead and buy one?! How much space is needed between the door pillar where seat belt is located and the centre of the van in order to turn the seat.?? I have a shower cubicle in this corner..Will the seat go out the passenger door to turn,,in order for me to have enough room to turn the seat??
Hey Wade, okay so we went to measure it this morning.
1. Distances between stuff.
a. Seat belt pillar to handbrake = 95cm
b. You can pull the seat directly backwards (without spinning) to open the storage compartment = 25cm (from the passenger base box). So it extends 25cm in your living space.
c. As it spins, there are slightly different rotation trajectories you can take. So, mid spin, around the moment the corner needs to pass the seat belt pillar, the other corner, swings out into your living space. The minimum it will cut into your living space is about 35cm and the max is about 45cm (depending on what rotation you pick)
- the corner that swings out, is about 48cm from the seat belt pillar (so about half way across the passenger base box)
2. The seat doesn't go out the door and you can swivel it with the door closed, although it is sometimes easier to stand outside and turn for better leverage.
Also, the plate does scratch either the seat belt pillar plastic or the hand brake, so we cut a slit in the plastic to let it spin freely and protect the hand break. :D
@@FreedomStrider Thanks a lot for the reply guys.. I am not sure I will be able to have one in mine unfortunately.. As my cubicle behind my drivers seat encroaches on the middle seat by about 130mm,,which I think will be too far
Has anyone successfully done this on a postmaster van
Not entirely sure, Promaster is a USA brand of van, so it might be worth checking out sites in the US that do single swivel seats and see if they do custom double swivel seat bases?
Great video if it weren't for the too frequent ads
Sorry to hear about the ads, we are in constant battle with UA-cam over their frequency. Who frequent were they?