He's taping up like he's fighting for the gold medal. The Judoka toyed with him the entire time. LOL. This guy is such a tool. "He got me with a move I should have seen coming..." This is priceless.
I did Judo for a few years with some good Judokas at my club I think it's one of the most underrated martial arts, it instills you with confidence and because of the randori you get plenty of practice fighting from standing which is better for self defense in a lot of situations as apposed to sub mission grappling that I do now where we start from knees a lot.
Well said. I personally think its more fun to launch people with Judo, but agree completely that having someone locked with no escape, or tapping out in seconds, feels great. These sports should be united in my opinion and I find it saddening that people separate them so much. Even though it has drifted so far, I believe the revolution that took place (1880's) from old Japanese J(i)u-Jitsu to Judo and BJJ took place with the intention to create a maximumly efficient art- standing & ground.
I'm a yonkyu. Originally did "Jun Fan Gung Fu" (aka Jeet Kune Do) with Taky Kimura (Bruce Lee's best man at his wedding & pupil) then switched to where Bruce Lee learned his throwing and grappling technique, the first judo dojo in North America, Seattle Dojo. At first I cross-trained in Brazilian JJ via JKD then decided to go to the original foundation, Judo.
Exactly. Thats my favorite thing. When some Judo guys come trotting into a grappling tournament expecting to dominate and just gets tapped,that is where its at :)
People tape to help support slight joint injuries. They also tape to protect open friction burns. Some people tape parts that are unusually convex, such as the big toe knuckle or ankle, to prevent friction burns. Some folks wear mouthguards because they get tired of slamming their teeth together from things like getting a shoulder in the jaw. It also prevents you from grinding your teeth during a fight.
Remco Pardoel was a judoka in UFC 2. He won two fights before losing to Royce Gracie in the semi-finals. I'm not saying he was the best representative of Judo that could have competed, but he was a judoka.
Using The appendix "DO" is a new phenomenon in Kanji.Before 1837 it was not in common use.Just in the close stages of the shogunate and the beginning stages of the meji era it started to come into vogue.
ARGH!! Damn I miss Judo, I should check myself in at a Dojo again. I wish it was something I can pratice on my own, but I need someone to toss around(preferably bigger than me)!
Exactly. That's my favorite thing. When some BJJ guys come trotting into a judo tourney expecting to dominate and just gets tossed; that is where it's at.
That is true, many, including myself are training both. Hopefully there are many others like you and I, who can appreciate what martial arts have to offer and focus more on the 'dou' or way of life of the sport, rather than the politics. Hope your teacher comes back and you get to learn some good Judo moves.
That's kool my base is Isshinryu Karate My sensei is a ex Marine he picked up most of his Training in Okinawa while stationed there, alot of older Marines I met know ISSHINRYU they did it back in 60 & 70's I like stand up more then ground but I know I had to learn some Ne-waza so I started Judo 3 1/2 yrs ago and I like it it gives the option of standing or going to the ground and fits Karate well.
Yeah, the big guy drives me nuts. "I don't think he'll have a chance if I just to decide to bullrush him." LOL. Congrats to Chambers for being a lot smarter.
Actually, we do plenty of newaza. It's half of every training session. I was talking about striking. Judo has low risk punches and kicks incorporated in not so much for knockout effect, but as distractions to close the gap or provoke the opponent into charging so we can obtain a throw. Striking is not usually taught below the brown belt level, but they're not difficult to learn.
I've never thought of the historical side of judo. If you look at the kihon, though, it's clear that this is a martial art that works if you have armour on.
It's a good match. Props for the guy in blue for the respect he showed to the judoka. Not unlike some BJJ practitioners who are always bitter at the rules of judo and would always try some bjj moves that is not allowed in a judo match.
There is striking in Kata, such as Goshin Jitsu. Striking in Judo is called Atemi Waza. It is occasionally taught. Judo is designed so that 100% effort can be used without injury. If you cannot practice at 100% you cannot truly learn how a technique works. The strikes in Judo are designed to be debilitating. You cannot practice punching someone in the throat or groin safely. Striking is a very small part of Judo. It is only taught for kata, self defence, and as part of the history of judo.
Just like there BJJ focuses on grappling and submissions aspects of Jiu-jutsu, there are different schools of judo that focus on different aspects of throwing and grappling. Kosen judo for examples has extensively elaborated on newaza. Its a matter o what the particular school wants to focus on and teach.
One throw with control, power, and speed wins. The object of a judo match is to demonstrate control of your opponent. If you do that with a throw, 25 second pin, or submission you win.
@LidarDan15 although I agree with you, note, the tv host (Jason) is well trained in grappling due to his JiuJitsu training for MMA. Since the judoka did not display any ground game when fighting Jason, it's hard to know what would be the real outcome in a ADCC style match.
I have heard that they used Jiu-Jitsu because they felt that their art was for self-defense and, not a sport(like Judo). They took into account that an opponent would be striking them and, adjusted the techniques accordingly. They also frequently fought against other arts as early as the 1930's.
Jigaro Kano received training in heaps of Jujitsu systems.Hence all his judo is just jujitsu.Earliest reference to the word JUDO was around 1846 before that the arts where always referred to as Jitsu with prefixes added on.The word can be trace back to yuyatsyu a real old Sanskrit word,that was adopted to kanji.
i think that judo gives alot of tools to start with in order to become a better fighter. there are more lethel martial arts but judo is a good place to start/ gives you power balance quickness and other staff that are really essintial.
MMA, in context of what is frequently considered MMA, occurs mostly in an ring. (UFC Pride whatever.) It's also a sport now. Both Judo and MMA have both martial and combative sport applications.
Ne Waza is practiced, but myself coming from a BJJ background, there is more focus on ground attacks in BJJ than in Judo. Still in any good Judo school, emphasis will be placed on both stand up and ground fighting.
Rubbish is has been my primary base and is highly effective in street scenarios throwing someone onto concrete usually ends a fight and if it doesn't i choke them or break an arm. the advantage judo has is that you know it works because you use it at full power when training against a resistant opponent, lots of deadly arts practitioners have no idea what its like to not have someone comply and move the way they expect i know i can throw and submit. Plus it is the basis that fedor works from.
In the video above, the judo practitioner learned how to adapt to the style of his opponent. He made modifications and used to his advantage leverage, patience, and set-ups The BJJ practitioner was relying to heavily on what worked in the past and thought that was enough. He had no strategy. He needs more versatility in is bag of ticks. There is no one great martial art. It's the student himself, his discipline and natural talent that makes him/her a winner.
Judo is great, almost all kinds of grappling share the same elements, like chinese shuai chiao and judo are similira yet different...have you seen shuai chiao training? seriously its like a very kung fu style of doing judo....Grappling rocks...
The tokyo police Choosed to go with Aiki Jujitsu and Kosen judo for their elite forces.Because Saigo that wona lot of fights for kano was actually a Aikijujitsu practitioner and used Aikijujitsu techniques. My stable mate does their Thursday classes.
Judo comes from Jujutsu (aka "jujitsu" modern day spelling) Did you see the last throw the BJJ guy was lost. He was thrown to the ground like a rag doll. Judo students are taught balance and technique, the BJJ guy had no balance & no center of gravity. He couldn't get a throw off; hence, if the judo guy wanted he could have done submission. Submissions & joint locks are taught in judo.
foot locks (i.e. ankle locks, toe holds...etc.), bending the head while on a sankaku (i.e. triangle hold), shoulder locks (while in a kimura or ude garami)...
Remco Pardoel was a BB in Judo and, fought in the the fight went to the ground. They also didn't misspell Jiu-Jitsu, just came up with their own spelling. The tem Jiu-Jitsu came from Japan and, was originally written in characters, not letters, so it's spelling is up to the translator. The Gracies also fought over the use of their family name, not naming it Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
I think its regular sports tape. You use it to prevent damage to the tips of your fingers, as a judo gi is rather frictive (sp?). You can open or damage fingers and skin when you pull or are pulled free while keeping a tight grip. Some judokas even tape 2 fingers together.
True it had its roots in older jiu jitsu. But that is essentially like saying the M16 had its roots in the smoothbore musket. One inevitably follows the other but the differences that make it 'judo' rather than 'jiu jitsu' were developed in the post-feudal era. The emphasis on removing all strength from one's technique and tranforming it into a competitive sport show how it was developed in and for the modern world and not the bloody conflicts of feudal japan.
The father of Bjj was 20 years older and 40 pounds ligther.And the Judo ka was so impress with his technique.he made an offer for him to go and teach in the Imperial college in Japan. Not a bad lost if you ask me.
@jonesayy most people don't know that BJJ is Judo with more focus on knife defense with emphasis on the ground game. BJJ was originally Judo taught to a gracie grand son. =) but you right. BJJ is judo
I agree with your view of mouthguard, but not the tape. If you visit any high level competition, most players tape themselves to some extend. Taping can prevent certain injuries, and believe me, when you train and compete enough you'll realize it. When people tape their fingers, it prevents the excessive rubbing against the finger joint which can quickly become inflamed after hard training and cause people not to grip well.
It's a bit like wrestling. It involves throws and pins that are very similar to free style wrestling. But sport Judo includes chokes and armbars. Also, in wrestling you fight for points. In Judo victory is determined by demonstrating control. You make a clean throw in wrestling, you get a point and continue. In Judo you win.
i heard that judo is the non violent version of jiu jitsu, and was made by its inventor as a way to get it known to the world, and thatis why is today an olimpic modality
@KAMAERUE If I Recall my history correctly, it was created by a Mr. G Kano (hope that's the correct way round sure Trad. Japanese names should have the surname first) who wanted to do Jujtisu... but due to his height, he wasn' t really taken seriously. He found the best JJ school by following the trail of broken bones and chatting to doctors. Judo was derived from Jujitsu, which was most certainly used on the battlefield (look at ancient Japanese silk paintings).
I did the last part of my Bachelors in physiology at the Tokyo University and hence had opportunity to train an talk a bit with Hirata san and my sensei(student of Kimura san). What they described happened to them when the broke from Kano wasn't positive at all.Kano had his own goals for Judo they had different,methinks their view is way better for the development of Judo compared to Kano's view.
well this MMA guy thought he could take this judoka, because he knew his style but the judokas knowledge and experience in judo won it for him, he knew how to shift his weight and avoid being unbalanced, very skillful judoka, very experienced. It doesnt matter if you knock judo, even if you didnt or w.e everyone has their opinions, after all this MMA dude tried a few judo moves here and failed.
hehe thx ^^ as a matter of fact he is coming back tomorow to stay here over the weekend...he probably didnt have time to learn anything yet but this is just a warm up for a seminar that we will have in two days ;D
I take Judo it was developed by Kanō Jigorō who took the moves of jujitsu and made them easyer, safer to train with and less deadly. Judo is a sport not a combat art, it focouses on more throwing than anything. Jujitsu was a combat system of the Samurai.
so true....i do prefer Bjj and think it is better but i also respect all other martial arts,ofc including Judo...and i agree that Bjj and Judo work perfectly together....they complete each other....add some Karate or Muay Thai(or both) and you got a perfect fighter...my Bjj trainer went to another part of my country and he is gonna train some Judo and MMA...cant wait for him to come back and teach us some new moves ;D
dude, they use it cuz they already had bruisings by other sports. The tape is used to prevent further bruising. I do not mean broken fingers or something like that, but ripped tendants.
To watch entire show to go to the History Channel website. Gracie Family learned judo first and for marketing purpo$e$ renamed it "jiujitsu" (misspelled it) & tried to re-write their history eventually leading to the Gracie family fighting among themselves over naming rights. Gracie created the UFC to showcase their art as being the best but didn't invite any judoka, which is why Royce Gracie was so dominant.
I find this very hard to believe. All the Judoka I know or have watched train spend VERY little time on Ne Waza. The main reason is that in the sport of Judo, the quick stand-ups (ten seconds WTF?) mean there is no incentive to do anything other than stall on the ground until the referee stands you back up. In the clip, Jason had a Triangle Choke set up, but NO this is Judo and Ne Waza is frowned upon...
judo is better than punches or kicks. i am a 2nd degree black belt and i must say, i have belts in many other martial arts, and judo i think is the best of all
for the last effing time! i never said judo was a weak sport! i fucking love judo, im a shodan black belt and i've been doing it for 11 1/2 years of my life.
Did he seriously expect to beat a 22 year Judo veteran in a Judo contest? I like how he narrates that he "missed the armbar by inches" and "almost had the choke in" yet he was out by miles everytime he tried anything
The difference between a good judoka and a great judoka is grip technique. This match was lost as soon as Jason let the Japanese guy grab his gi at chest level. As soon as he does that, your neck becomes a fulcrum and you're at his mercy.
@jonesayy MMA has developed into a very commercial sport, so by signature move i think he just meant that a triangle is identified very heavily in MMA. i see your point but its really not a big deal.
@SemperFidelis0300 The variants the marine use for the rolling kneebar and armbars they use, are from BJJ, judo has their variants, so does BJJ and wrestling. Your point?
Movie Kickboxing looks classier than normal kickboxing. But which is more effective? IF your into looks then better for me.One lest competent adversary I may have to cross path with.
@cliptwingz where i go to, oranges (belts) thorougly focus on tachi waza and ne waza as well. we train on a moderately large size area with genuine mizuno tatami mats. there are usually 4 black belt teachers there, bloody awesome place man
I took ymca type judo when 9-11 yrs old got in lots fights on the playground in which i employed a very basic mma type style this was in 73-78 when i came to a bjj dojo i held my own useing only my judo skills until i learned the bjj game my first "try out" i had a blue belt in a scarf hold before he knew wtf had even happened
Alot of top wrestlers participate in ADCC.Tito Ortiz,Matt Hughes,Matt Lindland etc etc etc,thats only America.Judo is very popular,Tae kwon Do is even more popular,the more fancy it gets the more people loves it.
That 5000lbs of pressure is only effective if the person muscles isn't tense. The clinical trail you got your results from they did on a mat with Judo practitioners.Other normal people would control large muscle groups out of fear,these contracted muscles would act as a buffer between bone and surface.Hence there is a high probability of bruising,dislocation's,not breaks.
yup completely true.... well new martial arts are being made as often as tv shows recently oO which is a bit sad but sometimes good also....some are effective,some are not.... but most Bjj practicioner train some Judo,and alot of Judo practicioners have started to train Bjj,so its not really as seperate as many people think ;D
by the way, i have trained in japan, at the imperial guards palace and at the kodokan. i received a gi with the imperial crest on it as proof. and yes, martial arts is about respecting your opponent, that's why you bow before and after you fight, as a thank you to the opponent for fighting you. i wasn't saying he should go all out and ippon the guy as fast as he possibly could, but if they're doing a documentary, it should at least be somewhat legit. this is sending the wrong message to viewers.
jigoro definitely designed judo to be the "gentle way" to reflect his buddhist beliefs but still preserving the fundamentals of momentum control/manipulation. the form of jujitsu that is most common today, brazilian, has basically brought the standing fight out of the art. i forget who the japanese dood was that brought jujitsu to brazil. but the gracie family is responsible for turning the art into a boring and lengthy struggle for submission filled with triangles and flying arm bars.
I don't see what you are talking about.He descrived the match perfectly,and he acknowledge the judoka's advanced strength,power,and technique.And the judoka's own description of the strategy he used was consistent with what he said. Also,the judoka specifically said he was not going to rely on newaza. which for all practical purposes mean that in ground situation he was going to stall (which would keep hollywood from earning any half points) when it got to the ground, and to win by ippons.
@nasri Very true do to me being big and powerful naturaly The biggest thing i learned was to be relaxed because i dont need to use it And honestly that was the hardest part of learning the style for me and my dad who is also my instructor showed me the hard way that he can beat me every time with out useing any power at all
I agree, Id like to see them fight with kicks and punches. Then I think that he would have gained the advantage. I also think that that other guy(sorry about the names) should have faced him off, since he knows more about wrestling and would have taken him down with wrestling moves
no i have seen the striking. all very basic strikes. and the strikes are basically used for counter throw practice. yongmoodo is a korean innovation in mma. it is trying to bring all the self defense / mma martial arts under one umbrella for competition and training purposes. well it is padded. but basically combines tkd and judo into a mix sport with jujistsu flying locks and chokes.
BJJ vs Judo - the only differences is BJJ has the triangle choke,and the guard position - there are a lot of the same moves - but a lot BJJ players know throws, but seem to not how to execute as well as Judo
Judo fights on the ground too. BBJ is basicly just ground, Judo is both. Jujitsu is the best becasue it isnt a sport but a combat system, and uses strikes, weapons, grapling, groundfighting, eye gowging, groin kicking ect.
@le2key if a judoka closes a distance and throws you with lets say a powerful and clean uchimata or Ippon Seio Nage onto the ground, there's a good chance you will be knocked out (KO) if not KO than definitely shocked for at least 2-4 seconds + bodily damage (broken ribs, hip, shoulder, etc). During the 2-4 seconds that you're in shock the judoka can either gain distance or proceed to the ground into a submission and trust me during the 2-4 seconds you wont have any idea of what's happening.
He's taping up like he's fighting for the gold medal. The Judoka toyed with him the entire time.
LOL. This guy is such a tool. "He got me with a move I should have seen coming..." This is priceless.
I did Judo for a few years with some good Judokas at my club I think it's one of the most underrated martial arts, it instills you with confidence and because of the randori you get plenty of practice fighting from standing which is better for self defense in a lot of situations as apposed to sub mission grappling that I do now where we start from knees a lot.
Well said. I personally think its more fun to launch people with Judo, but agree completely that having someone locked with no escape, or tapping out in seconds, feels great. These sports should be united in my opinion and I find it saddening that people separate them so much. Even though it has drifted so far, I believe the revolution that took place (1880's) from old Japanese J(i)u-Jitsu to Judo and BJJ took place with the intention to create a maximumly efficient art- standing & ground.
I'm a yonkyu. Originally did "Jun Fan Gung Fu" (aka Jeet Kune Do) with Taky Kimura (Bruce Lee's best man at his wedding & pupil) then switched to where Bruce Lee learned his throwing and grappling technique, the first judo dojo in North America, Seattle Dojo. At first I cross-trained in Brazilian JJ via JKD then decided to go to the original foundation, Judo.
Of course he did. They've got two weeks of experience and this guy's a freakin' master.
Exactly. Thats my favorite thing. When some Judo guys come trotting into a grappling tournament expecting to dominate and just gets tapped,that is where its at :)
People tape to help support slight joint injuries. They also tape to protect open friction burns. Some people tape parts that are unusually convex, such as the big toe knuckle or ankle, to prevent friction burns. Some folks wear mouthguards because they get tired of slamming their teeth together from things like getting a shoulder in the jaw. It also prevents you from grinding your teeth during a fight.
Remco Pardoel was a judoka in UFC 2. He won two fights before losing to Royce Gracie in the semi-finals. I'm not saying he was the best representative of Judo that could have competed, but he was a judoka.
Using The appendix "DO" is a new phenomenon in Kanji.Before 1837 it was not in common use.Just in the close stages of the shogunate and the beginning stages of the meji era it started to come into vogue.
ARGH!! Damn I miss Judo, I should check myself in at a Dojo again. I wish it was something I can pratice on my own, but I need someone to toss around(preferably bigger than me)!
Exactly. That's my favorite thing. When some BJJ guys come trotting into a judo tourney expecting to dominate and just gets tossed; that is where it's at.
A Thai Boxer should appreciate Judo the most! Judo is perfect from the clinch... Put the two together man... you'll never regret it.
That’s what MMA is basically about: Muay Thai and Judo combined with traditional wrestling techniques
That is true, many, including myself are training both. Hopefully there are many others like you and I, who can appreciate what martial arts have to offer and focus more on the 'dou' or way of life of the sport, rather than the politics. Hope your teacher comes back and you get to learn some good Judo moves.
Man, that last throw had a nice solid thump XD
this is hilarious!! Ogawa isnt even tryng and still kicks his ass!!!
That's kool my base is Isshinryu Karate My sensei is a ex Marine he picked up most of his Training in Okinawa while stationed there, alot of older Marines I met know ISSHINRYU they did it back in 60 & 70's I like stand up more then ground but I know I had to learn some Ne-waza so I started Judo 3 1/2 yrs ago and I like it it gives the option of standing or going to the ground and fits Karate well.
Yeah, the big guy drives me nuts. "I don't think he'll have a chance if I just to decide to bullrush him." LOL. Congrats to Chambers for being a lot smarter.
Actually, we do plenty of newaza. It's half of every training session. I was talking about striking. Judo has low risk punches and kicks incorporated in not so much for knockout effect, but as distractions to close the gap or provoke the opponent into charging so we can obtain a throw. Striking is not usually taught below the brown belt level, but they're not difficult to learn.
OH SHIT! Lol, that last throw was nasty. I almost wasn't paying attention 'cause the action was slowing, but then boom! Haha.
EXACTLY. and that could also have been the reason too.
thanks for understanding
that tai otoshi at the end was fucking gorgeous
with technique & timing like that, it feels like the guy is jumping for you
I've never thought of the historical side of judo. If you look at the kihon, though, it's clear that this is a martial art that works if you have armour on.
It's a good match. Props for the guy in blue for the respect he showed to the judoka. Not unlike some BJJ practitioners who are always bitter at the rules of judo and would always try some bjj moves that is not allowed in a judo match.
@nasri True that. Judo throws come from momentum and this guy said "I'm just going to bullrush him" lol
There is striking in Kata, such as Goshin Jitsu. Striking in Judo is called Atemi Waza. It is occasionally taught. Judo is designed so that 100% effort can be used without injury. If you cannot practice at 100% you cannot truly learn how a technique works. The strikes in Judo are designed to be debilitating. You cannot practice punching someone in the throat or groin safely. Striking is a very small part of Judo. It is only taught for kata, self defence, and as part of the history of judo.
Good Build-up!! I haven't seen the fight yet. But I'm already excited!!
Just like there BJJ focuses on grappling and submissions aspects of Jiu-jutsu, there are different schools of judo that focus on different aspects of throwing and grappling. Kosen judo for examples has extensively elaborated on newaza. Its a matter o what the particular school wants to focus on and teach.
One throw with control, power, and speed wins. The object of a judo match is to demonstrate control of your opponent. If you do that with a throw, 25 second pin, or submission you win.
@LidarDan15 although I agree with you, note, the tv host (Jason) is well trained in grappling due to his JiuJitsu training for MMA. Since the judoka did not display any ground game when fighting Jason, it's hard to know what would be the real outcome in a ADCC style match.
I have heard that they used Jiu-Jitsu because they felt that their art was for self-defense and, not a sport(like Judo). They took into account that an opponent would be striking them and, adjusted the techniques accordingly. They also frequently fought against other arts as early as the 1930's.
"missed by inches" is another way of saying "he was toying with me and I just don't realize it"
Jigaro Kano received training in heaps of Jujitsu systems.Hence all his judo is just jujitsu.Earliest reference to the word JUDO was around 1846 before that the arts where always referred to as Jitsu with prefixes added on.The word can be trace back to yuyatsyu a real old Sanskrit word,that was adopted to kanji.
Judo is an Art. The Sport variation is just an off shoot. Real Judo is extremely destructive.
This guys moves are so simple. I learned these moves within the first 3 purple stripes.
i think that judo gives alot of tools to start with in order to become a better fighter. there are more lethel martial arts but judo is a good place to start/ gives you power balance quickness and other staff that are really essintial.
MMA, in context of what is frequently considered MMA, occurs mostly in an ring. (UFC Pride whatever.) It's also a sport now. Both Judo and MMA have both martial and combative sport applications.
Ne Waza is practiced, but myself coming from a BJJ background, there is more focus on ground attacks in BJJ than in Judo. Still in any good Judo school, emphasis will be placed on both stand up and ground fighting.
Rubbish is has been my primary base and is highly effective in street scenarios throwing someone onto concrete usually ends a fight and if it doesn't i choke them or break an arm. the advantage judo has is that you know it works because you use it at full power when training against a resistant opponent, lots of deadly arts practitioners have no idea what its like to not have someone comply and move the way they expect i know i can throw and submit. Plus it is the basis that fedor works from.
In the video above, the judo practitioner learned how to adapt to the style of his opponent. He made modifications and used to his advantage leverage, patience, and set-ups The BJJ practitioner was relying to heavily on what worked in the past and thought that was enough. He had no strategy. He needs more versatility in is bag of ticks. There is no one great martial art. It's the student himself, his discipline and natural talent that makes him/her a winner.
always have a deep love and respect for judo and bjj.
Judo is great, almost all kinds of grappling share the same elements, like chinese shuai chiao and judo are similira yet different...have you seen shuai chiao training? seriously its like a very kung fu style of doing judo....Grappling rocks...
The tokyo police Choosed to go with Aiki Jujitsu and Kosen judo for their elite forces.Because Saigo that wona lot of fights for kano was actually a Aikijujitsu practitioner and used Aikijujitsu techniques. My stable mate does their Thursday classes.
Judo comes from Jujutsu (aka "jujitsu" modern day spelling) Did you see the last throw the BJJ guy was lost. He was thrown to the ground like a rag doll. Judo students are taught balance and technique, the BJJ guy had no balance & no center of gravity. He couldn't get a throw off; hence, if the judo guy wanted he could have done submission. Submissions & joint locks are taught in judo.
foot locks (i.e. ankle locks, toe holds...etc.), bending the head while on a sankaku (i.e. triangle hold), shoulder locks (while in a kimura or ude garami)...
Remco Pardoel was a BB in Judo and, fought in the the fight went to the ground.
They also didn't misspell Jiu-Jitsu, just came up with their own spelling. The tem Jiu-Jitsu came from Japan and, was originally written in characters, not letters, so it's spelling is up to the translator.
The Gracies also fought over the use of their family name, not naming it Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
I think its regular sports tape. You use it to prevent damage to the tips of your fingers, as a judo gi is rather frictive (sp?). You can open or damage fingers and skin when you pull or are pulled free while keeping a tight grip. Some judokas even tape 2 fingers together.
The judo guy is like totally stable no matter how much the guy in blue is pushing.
True it had its roots in older jiu jitsu. But that is essentially like saying the M16 had its roots in the smoothbore musket. One inevitably follows the other but the differences that make it 'judo' rather than 'jiu jitsu' were developed in the post-feudal era.
The emphasis on removing all strength from one's technique and tranforming it into a competitive sport show how it was developed in and for the modern world and not the bloody conflicts of feudal japan.
The father of Bjj was 20 years older and 40 pounds ligther.And the Judo ka was so impress with his technique.he made an offer for him to go and teach in the Imperial college in Japan. Not a bad lost if you ask me.
@jonesayy most people don't know that BJJ is Judo with more focus on knife defense with emphasis on the ground game. BJJ was originally Judo taught to a gracie grand son. =) but you right. BJJ is judo
I agree with your view of mouthguard, but not the tape. If you visit any high level competition, most players tape themselves to some extend. Taping can prevent certain injuries, and believe me, when you train and compete enough you'll realize it. When people tape their fingers, it prevents the excessive rubbing against the finger joint which can quickly become inflamed after hard training and cause people not to grip well.
It's a bit like wrestling. It involves throws and pins that are very similar to free style wrestling. But sport Judo includes chokes and armbars. Also, in wrestling you fight for points. In Judo victory is determined by demonstrating control. You make a clean throw in wrestling, you get a point and continue. In Judo you win.
One word: OWNED!
i heard that judo is the non violent version of jiu jitsu, and was made by its inventor as a way to get it known to the world, and thatis why is today an olimpic modality
this guy actin as he been in control of the whole match, bruv u got rapped hardddd
@KAMAERUE If I Recall my history correctly, it was created by a Mr. G Kano (hope that's the correct way round sure Trad. Japanese names should have the surname first) who wanted to do Jujtisu... but due to his height, he wasn' t really taken seriously. He found the best JJ school by following the trail of broken bones and chatting to doctors.
Judo was derived from Jujitsu, which was most certainly used on the battlefield (look at ancient Japanese silk paintings).
I did the last part of my Bachelors in physiology at the Tokyo University and hence had opportunity to train an talk a bit with Hirata san and my sensei(student of Kimura san). What they described happened to them when the broke from Kano wasn't positive at all.Kano had his own goals for Judo they had different,methinks their view is way better for the development of Judo compared to Kano's view.
well this MMA guy thought he could take this judoka, because he knew his style but the judokas knowledge and experience in judo won it for him, he knew how to shift his weight and avoid being unbalanced, very skillful judoka, very experienced. It doesnt matter if you knock judo, even if you didnt or w.e everyone has their opinions, after all this MMA dude tried a few judo moves here and failed.
hehe thx ^^
as a matter of fact he is coming back tomorow to stay here over the weekend...he probably didnt have time to learn anything yet but this is just a warm up for a seminar that we will have in two days ;D
I take Judo it was developed by Kanō Jigorō who took the moves of jujitsu and made them easyer, safer to train with and less deadly. Judo is a sport not a combat art, it focouses on more throwing than anything. Jujitsu was a combat system of the Samurai.
so true....i do prefer Bjj and think it is better but i also respect all other martial arts,ofc including Judo...and i agree that Bjj and Judo work perfectly together....they complete each other....add some Karate or Muay Thai(or both) and you got a perfect fighter...my Bjj trainer went to another part of my country and he is gonna train some Judo and MMA...cant wait for him to come back and teach us some new moves ;D
I love the fact that he actually thought he had a chance lol
I've only seen a couple of episodes but it seems that they get outclassed everywhere they go.
I got every episode of this show.
Continue singing your song,its putting me to sleep.Thanks mate.
dude, they use it cuz they already had bruisings by other sports.
The tape is used to prevent further bruising.
I do not mean broken fingers or something like that, but ripped tendants.
To watch entire show to go to the History Channel website.
Gracie Family learned judo first and for marketing purpo$e$ renamed it "jiujitsu" (misspelled it) & tried to re-write their history eventually leading to the Gracie family fighting among themselves over naming rights. Gracie created the UFC to showcase their art as being the best but didn't invite any judoka, which is why Royce Gracie was so dominant.
Top Quality judogis well shed your fingers easily. The tape is very necesary unless you like diced fingers.
I find this very hard to believe.
All the Judoka I know or have watched train spend VERY little time on Ne Waza. The main reason is that in the sport of Judo, the quick stand-ups (ten seconds WTF?) mean there is no incentive to do anything other than stall on the ground until the referee stands you back up.
In the clip, Jason had a Triangle Choke set up, but NO this is Judo and Ne Waza is frowned upon...
judo is better than punches or kicks. i am a 2nd degree black belt and i must say, i have belts in many other martial arts, and judo i think is the best of all
for the last effing time!
i never said judo was a weak sport!
i fucking love judo, im a shodan black belt and i've been doing it for 11 1/2 years of my life.
Winning is the best art!
"Missed him by, inches" bullshit, dude was probably like wtf are you trying to do?
Did he seriously expect to beat a 22 year Judo veteran in a Judo contest?
I like how he narrates that he "missed the armbar by inches" and "almost had the choke in" yet he was out by miles everytime he tried anything
Almost text-book beautiful Judo from Ogawa.
The difference between a good judoka and a great judoka is grip technique. This match was lost as soon as Jason let the Japanese guy grab his gi at chest level. As soon as he does that, your neck becomes a fulcrum and you're at his mercy.
wow! i have so got to learn judo!!!!
it looks to fun!!
the best fighter in the world and undefeated fedor emilianko is a judo russian champion, he does all hrows in the game.
What a beautiful Tai-Otoshi.
@jonesayy MMA has developed into a very commercial sport, so by signature move i think he just meant that a triangle is identified very heavily in MMA. i see your point but its really not a big deal.
@SemperFidelis0300 The variants the marine use for the rolling kneebar and armbars they use, are from BJJ, judo has their variants, so does BJJ and wrestling. Your point?
Movie Kickboxing looks classier than normal kickboxing. But which is more effective? IF your into looks then better for me.One lest competent adversary I may have to cross path with.
@cliptwingz where i go to, oranges (belts) thorougly focus on tachi waza and ne waza as well. we train on a moderately large size area with genuine mizuno tatami mats. there are usually 4 black belt teachers there, bloody awesome place man
I took ymca type judo when 9-11 yrs old
got in lots fights on the playground in which i employed a very basic mma type style this was in 73-78
when i came to a bjj dojo i held my own
useing only my judo skills until i learned the bjj game
my first "try out" i had a blue belt in a scarf hold before he knew wtf had even happened
Alot of top wrestlers participate in ADCC.Tito Ortiz,Matt Hughes,Matt Lindland etc etc etc,thats only America.Judo is very popular,Tae kwon Do is even more popular,the more fancy it gets the more people loves it.
i like how he says he "just" missed the flying armbar. riiiiight.
That 5000lbs of pressure is only effective if the person muscles isn't tense. The clinical trail you got your results from they did on a mat with Judo practitioners.Other normal people would control large muscle groups out of fear,these contracted muscles would act as a buffer between bone and surface.Hence there is a high probability of bruising,dislocation's,not breaks.
yeah I thought so about the BJJ ,I did look up MCMAP cool motto one mind any weapon it sounds like a good mix of fighting techniques
cool i do tkd hapkido and judo ;)) its all fun i luv judo
yup completely true....
well new martial arts are being made as often as tv shows recently oO which is a bit sad but sometimes good also....some are effective,some are not....
but most Bjj practicioner train some Judo,and alot of Judo practicioners have started to train Bjj,so its not really as seperate as many people think ;D
by the way, i have trained in japan, at the imperial guards palace and at the kodokan. i received a gi with the imperial crest on it as proof.
and yes, martial arts is about respecting your opponent, that's why you bow before and after you fight, as a thank you to the opponent for fighting you.
i wasn't saying he should go all out and ippon the guy as fast as he possibly could, but if they're doing a documentary, it should at least be somewhat legit.
this is sending the wrong message to viewers.
jigoro definitely designed judo to be the "gentle way" to reflect his buddhist beliefs but still preserving the fundamentals of momentum control/manipulation. the form of jujitsu that is most common today, brazilian, has basically brought the standing fight out of the art. i forget who the japanese dood was that brought jujitsu to brazil. but the gracie family is responsible for turning the art into a boring and lengthy struggle for submission filled with triangles and flying arm bars.
I don't see what you are talking about.He descrived the match perfectly,and he acknowledge the judoka's advanced strength,power,and technique.And the judoka's own description of the strategy he used was consistent with what he said. Also,the judoka specifically said he was not going to rely on newaza. which for all practical purposes mean that in ground situation he was going to stall (which would keep hollywood from earning any half points) when it got to the ground, and to win by ippons.
@nasri Very true do to me being big and powerful naturaly The biggest thing i learned was to be relaxed because i dont need to use it And honestly that was the hardest part of learning the style for me and my dad who is also my instructor showed me the hard way that he can beat me every time with out useing any power at all
I agree, Id like to see them fight with kicks and punches. Then I think that he would have gained the advantage. I also think that that other guy(sorry about the names) should have faced him off, since he knows more about wrestling and would have taken him down with wrestling moves
no i have seen the striking. all very basic strikes. and the strikes are basically used for counter throw practice. yongmoodo is a korean innovation in mma. it is trying to bring all the self defense / mma martial arts under one umbrella for competition and training purposes. well it is padded. but basically combines tkd and judo into a mix sport with jujistsu flying locks and chokes.
BJJ vs Judo - the only differences is BJJ has the triangle choke,and the guard position - there are a lot of the same moves - but a lot BJJ players know throws, but seem to not how to execute as well as Judo
I miss this show... =(
Judo fights on the ground too. BBJ is basicly just ground, Judo is both. Jujitsu is the best becasue it isnt a sport but a combat system, and uses strikes, weapons, grapling, groundfighting, eye gowging, groin kicking ect.
@le2key if a judoka closes a distance and throws you with lets say a powerful and clean uchimata or Ippon Seio Nage onto the ground, there's a good chance you will be knocked out (KO) if not KO than definitely shocked for at least 2-4 seconds + bodily damage (broken ribs, hip, shoulder, etc). During the 2-4 seconds that you're in shock the judoka can either gain distance or proceed to the ground into a submission and trust me during the 2-4 seconds you wont have any idea of what's happening.