I feel a possible reason for why the Alliance story line was changed so much going into BFB could be because the writers might of wanted to put more of an emphasis on Match or explore how the Alliance would work without Pencil
I feel bad for match because she genuinely did feel bad about treating bubble and trying to change and then people voted her off I really hope her character didn’t get reset next time we see her
That’s why I don’t like viewer voting as much as contestant voting, it allows the story’s to move forward, like if a mean character was slowly becoming nice, they could survive for at least 10 episodes and Maybe get eliminated because they didn’t have many friends left, while in viewer voting the mean character trying to reform will get out the first time their UFE, it ruins storylines and also allows the character to not even develop
@@Crazybenbros8988viewer voting is fine if you know when to put what team up for elimination In BFB 11, Match and Bubble were starting an arc. Book and Taco's arc was still ongoing. Since Match and Book weren't particularly liked by the audience at that time, you can't put iance or Bleh up for elimination at all. But the writer decided to put iance UFE and got Match voted out
@@Firefly256 true it can be fine at some points, but it is also bad to have an arc with one character disliked more than the other and have them get votes off
You know what I realized? Not only did Bubble last longer than Match and Pencil in both BFDI *and* BFB, she was the one to come up with the idea of making an alliance back in BFDI 1A. Sure, Match and Pencil seem like better leaders, but to demote the original leader to bember? That’s just wrong..
@@AnakinRodriguesI would disagree, I feel like they just wanted to add more drama and give the other BFBers a chance, Freesmart’s prime would’ve been way too overpowered in BFB.
There's a simple explanation. Pencil and Match were always egotistical, but not like how they were at the start of BFB. Their change was a result of a decision for the sake of the plot going a different way, possibly with flanderization being a factor. Book and Ice Cube noticed the disimprovement, and wanted nothing to do with it, because as they said, the team was unhealthy. Bubble became more sensitive because she felt betrayed by the people she trusted the most. She noticed the alliance changing in a way she disliked, and then she got demoted. Other parts of the plot between Bubble and Match during later episodes are additional examples.
@@Intentle That's not the correct usage of the word "derailed" as this kind of criticism. What you wrote is like claiming that the relationship between Firey and Leafy just got "derailed" during BFB because they finally apologized to each other about the incident during the first season, and concluded that part of the overall story, instead of the two continuing to be silent to each other like they had been for years. What you wrote is like claiming that Blocky just got "derailed" during BFB because he gained more respect for Woody, even though Blocky had previously only been rude to him. What you wrote is like claiming that Fanny has "just derailed" her place on Death PACT Again during TPOT because Lightning convinced her to try improving the team's strategy, even if it means going against the team's sentiment. These details could be considered as derailed in-setting, for example, if Black Hole were to tell Fanny "You're derailing our goal to prevent death!", but in our perspectives observing the narratives as fictional, this isn't derailment, these are simply dynamic characters being dynamic characters, changing and making the plot go in a particular direction. I wrote that Pencil and Match were always egotistical because it's true, not because of an arbitrary attempt to make their decline sensible. The two characters didn't become mean out of nowhere; they've had their alliance and sense of entitlement over characters like Spongy ever since early in the first season. The true mistake that was made in the production of BFB was making it so that Iance was the first team up for elimination; Pencil got eliminated with nothing interesting having happened from her declined personality, and her elimination was foreseeable.
@@Intentle I'm not unchill in the first place. It's fine if you dislike the way Pencil and Match were written. I'm just explaining the circumstances, and how they're more than you describe them as.
I actually completely agree with this, when you watch BFDI’s seasons 1 through 4 you can actually see Match and Pencil becoming a bit more irritating, but season 4, as you said, was completely different from what the original alliance used to be. There are so many moments that don’t feel like they match up with the original friend group and one of the original FreeSmart members literally got into a different arc with Taco, who she never interacted with before BFB. It’s depressing to see how the alliance went from being one of the most important, memorable, and beloved things to this irrational, and bossy dictatorship just because of how unstable the writing was back then.
The Exitors Arc could finally be the chance to get Pencil and Match back on the right track to their true selves. The concept itself just really cool to me.
Semi-Quasi-Related Fun Fact: The reason why Beep was UFE 3 times in BFB was because Satomi really did not like Nickel and wanted him out as soon as possible
I know literally nobody will read this but here's my complete thoughts on each individual member, including and starting Book and Icy since they're the least centric to the alliance. Book: Book is in a... peculiar position for me. She acts a bit like a middle person between the alliance and outsiders. While most of the Alliance members are only talkitive with other members, Book aside from Icy is very conversational with many people especially in bfdia. 5 is the peak of Book's devotion to the alliance, she chooses to be on the new team, and seems to enjoy her time there unlike what we'll see in the coming season. And that's kind of it, book just makes the conscious decision that Freesmart is unhealthy and ditches them alongside Icy. Ice Cube: Literally the same exact story she just had previous interactions with the alliance before bfdia and Book got on the show. Ruby: Ruby is a bit more interesting than I.C. and Book. While Book doesn't really adjust to the alliance, Ruby goes all in. She becomes a center piece in the alliance and sticks with them throughout. She has her moments of distancing but is definitely more open with the alliance than everyone else. In particular I do find her friendship with Bubble interesting. Ruby goes from not wantimg Bubble alive in Bfdia to really being great friends in bfb post split since everyone else is either in tpot or already eliminated. This really allowed for Ruby to shine and overall solidified her as a very good character imo. Bubble: Here's where things get very fun and where these explanations get long. Bubble is a very intriguing character she's very helpful and kind, yet finds her way into an alliance with 2 people who are exact opposites. This difference comes to a head when Match and especially Pencil become extremely rude and Bubble eventually can't take what they've become especially in the case if Match. Bubble goes back to her nice and kind ways in post split which makes her kind of uninteresting during that time. If they had altered Bubble's character after her conforting of Match, I feel like she could've been a solid contestant, not a winning one, but definitely a solid one. It just didn't materialize and now we're stuck with what is basically the same Bubble from bfdi. The one who offers a helping hand to anyone she meets. Pencil: Pencil may just have one of the oddest turn-around's of a character in literally any show. In bfdi Pencil is kind of a second Bubble just not as overly nice which makes her entertaining and less boring. This entertaining personality leads to her never recieving a single vote going into the merge. Her constant shunning of Icy is what I think leads to her demise as she is eliminated in bfdi 19 that and the fact she's agaist the eventual winner and a player who rejoined recently. Bfdia is where a very noticable change occurs, she goes from being entertaining -ish to being kind of mean, she kicks out Book and Icy from the dance party and overall is just rude to them and a kind of Ruby. Bfb though is where everything and I mean everything that made Pencil a good character changes. She goes from being a loyal alliance member and fairly nice to outsiders to becoming a psychotic and harsh leader. She goes from kind to rude, from caring to killing, and easily the worst change. From being a loving and caring alliance leader to a harsh and demanding nitpicker. Constantly getting on Bubble for trying to stop Lighting from killing Fanny and other people. But that's really all we've gotten now, since bfb 2 we've not seen hardly anything of Pencils' character so we don't know if she's made a comeback or has continued to stray away from her allies aside from Match. Match: Now for probably the most interesting of the bunch imo. Match in bfdi was not that great of a character, not getting much screen time and just overall not being interesting led to her boot. Bfdia is a massive change for her as she becomes a Pencil 2.0 with a little more sass and rudeness. But she does stay loyal to the alliance throughout so that at least saves her a bit in that season. Bfb like Pencil is where Match changes, she is once again a Pencil 2.0 but to a lesser extent, enough to keep her in over her bff. Match's character remains unchanged until Bubble finally tells Match how she feels. This episode somewhat shows a completely different side to both characters Bubble becomes assertive to her friends and Match from what I can see, seems to see the gravity of what she's done and how it has affected the whole alliance. This realization unfortunately doesn't save her from getting the boot and thus ruins what could have been a Match redemption arc that may have finally seen her step out of Pencil's shadow and allowed her to become her own character instead of a second Pencil. In her few scenes in the Exit she seems to have mellowed out, hopefully we can somehow see a redemption arc one day, but there's not telling if we'll get that at all. It's just really unfortunate how horrible Match and Pencil specifically went from being very good and iconic characters for the right reasons to being rude cruel and iconic for all the wrong reasons. For me tpot can't be the ending of Bfdi and Freesmart without some sort of resolution, whether that happens in the Exit or somewhere else I don't care, all I want is some resolution to the original alliance that quite literally kicked everything off. Side note Pencil and Match were always my 2 faovrites through the entire series, always my top 2. Pencil was my favorite before I swapped to Match, even though she's just like Pencil, I can't bring myself to dislike her and take her out of the spot as my favorite unlike Pencil who has fallen way down. If you took the time to read everything, first of all how? And second of all thank you. See ya later everyone hopefuy we get some closure on the crashing and burning hot mess that Freesmart is right now. Thanks again!
BFDIA6 Came out, and continued Freesmart, and I liked them, the dynamic was still fun, and the story of Pencil learning that Ice Cube is more useful then she thought and she needs to appreciate her more as a team member and friend is a good ARC! Can't wait to see more of it.
75, also completely agree with this Pencil used to be one of my favourite characters, but it just felt so unnecessary to derail them (especially Pencil) so much, I hope it is explained more in IDFB where Pencil slowly becomes more controlling instead of just the jump to mean and abusive
I like to divide FreeSmart in two teams, BFDI-BFDIA FreeSmart and BFB-TPOT FreeSmart (I also do this with some characters), so my favorite team is BFDI-BFDIA FreeSmart
im sorry dawg but derailment and negative development are different things there was a huge time gap between idfb and bfb so we don't know what happened with freesmart within that timeframe and satomi writing them as more toxic makes it really interesting to wonder what happened with them, especially now that bfdia's return is slowly showing how the group is becoming slightly less positive but to be fair this video was made before bfdia came back so yea
The group seems more positive in the new BFDIA I think that they start becoming bad near idfb cuz even needle was scared of them. We rlly need bfdia and idfb to be finished
@@56fennixthat’s why i think needle joining freesmart in bfdia 12 was the perfect opportunity. we know she’s leaves freesmart eventually, maybe she finds out a really bad secret they’ve been hiding which causes her to leave. and whatever it is would have something to do with the science museum
@@ivywt yeah that’s what i think! maybe they’re the ones who had the spiked clubs with gb? they do have a tendency to call her bozo. maybe that’s why needle left
When I first watched the BFDIA season, I thought that the FreeSmart alliance was very evil and powerful, but after watching this video, I now feel terrible about its breakup and continuation of the story during BFB, along with the fallout of many relationships between the members. I hope this alliance can be rebuilt sooner or later.
basic summarization: i personally think the alliance was going down this way, possibly from the start honestly? i feel like the whole alliance “derailment” thing was overall the direction this alliance was meant to go while it was subtle at first, it overall felt that while freesmart were good to the people in their alliance, they usually really don’t care about the people that they don’t like they actively celebrate spongy’s death, they instantly kick out golf ball when she accidentally falls in, and pencil just laughs at ruby for wanting to recover the people outside of the alliance in bfdia even match and pencil’s behavior towards the alliance members themselves are kind of justified pencil’s shown to be rude to ruby on several occasions, seeing ruby and ice cube die while ruby is trying to save pencil’s life (pencil doesn’t even die from falling???) and she only seems angry about the fact that now she’ll have to recover them too, despite the minor inconvenience of the task of recovering them both the only concern she shows for book and ice cube is when they leave the alliance, where they panic for likely the sole reason that their alliance is smaller now and considering the fact that match and pencil have gotten much worse as people, i’d imagine that book and ice cube wouldn’t really approve of what the alliance has become, which i think is a decent reason to not want to be in the alliance anymore, especially considering they’re already mistreated for being “alternates” (one big example is getting physically kicked out of the alliance dance party zone thing for not being members of the alliance) and i personally think it’s completely fair that book and ice cube think the alliance is unhealthy for them, considering the fact that while they’re still in the alliance, they’re viewed as simply alternates. replacements, even i don’t think book and ice cube aren’t even in the alliance scenes before four appears and announces the competition, so it’s clear they might have been separating themselves from the alliance and the fact that ruby is in the alliance, and she isn’t an alternate is the only reason she’s still in the alliance, even if she honestly has more reasons to leave than she does to stay (the fact that she’s in a similar situation as book and ice cube, she still gets mistreated occasionally, and how she doesn’t even actively support the alliance, considering the fact that all of the toxicity in the alliance basically just disappears as soon as match is eliminated as for bubble, she’s definitely the most interesting one here in my opinion she actively goes against the alliance’s change, but she seems to genuinely value her place in the alliance out of the alliance and excluding match and pencil, bubble was the only member of the alliance that had a previously established connection to match and pencil it’s completely possible she sees the alliance as more of a friend group, which is honestly a valid way to see it considering the alliance’s dynamic in bfdia and the fact that they stay together in idfb despite there being no competition shows that the alliance is clearly more than a way to advance in the competition and it honestly kind of makes things more interesting that, as i’ve said, she was friends with match and pencil before the alliance she was there for the whole game, watching her alliance slowly turn from just a harmless friend group to.. whatever it ended up being in bfb so yeah that would probably kind of hurt her feelings slightly just a bit my final point is the scene from bfdia and the whole reason that ironically bubble of all people doesn’t want the alliance to grow: golf ball’s book says that alliances with more than three members are more likely to split up and become enemies due to how the alliance essentially crumbled into three separate groups as bfb went on, golf ball was right; they did end up splitting up and becoming enemies with ruby now leading the remaining alliance (possibly until four decides to finally remember he banished people to math class and actually take them out), the alliance has potential to become a much more healthy group the alliance has potential to become as good as, if not better than what it used to be and i would genuinely like to see what would happen if the alliance (excluding alternates) got back together in the state that they’re in what would pencil and match think about this? would they try to change the alliance back to how it used to be? would they succeed? considering match’s whole scene with bubble before her elimination, it’s honesty completely possible that match could be proud of how the alliance turned out. but pencil’s much more interesting, considering how we never really got to see her thoughts on her alliance since match’s elimination in the rejoin, she claims that her alliance needs her, and they just can’t live without her, but it honestly seems like they’re doing much better without her there’s so many things they could do with her match could potentially speak with pencil and get pencil to actually understand how their alliance has changed, maybe even trying to convince pencil to make ruby the leader pencil could, as i’ve said before, try to change the alliance back to its old bfb 1 ways, possibly being actively opposed by even match considering the fact that i personally believe she would be proud of what ruby’s done with the alliance or it’s completely possible that ruby wouldn’t even want to associate with pencil if she fully realizes that she derailed the alliance, possibly forcing pencil to try and get ruby to forgive her so she can get back into the alliance match could also possibly end up also being in this situation with pencil, whether it’s ruby kicking her out too (although i don’t think bubble would like that very much, considering the fact that she feels directly responsible for match’s elimination for not forgiving her, she would probably encourage ruby to forgive match, maybe even pencil there’s also honestly a really cool concept that even if it’s unlikely and possibly out of character depending on how this is done, could be genuinely kind of cool ruby allows pencil and match back in through one of my earlier ideas, but ends up slowly derailing the alliance in the same way pencil did in past bfdi seasons, and pencil and match have to stop ruby from making the same mistakes they did it’s unlikely, but honestly it would be a pretty cool arc seriously though people are complaining about a lack of actual arcs in tpot but they don’t even see this whole plot that’s been going on through the entire series relating to the alliance and i’m one of those people that honestly enjoys the less story-relevant side of bfdi like the whole existence of just not and the s! more than the arcs and important scenes, such as the “taco abandoned us kill her!!!!!” arc and literally that one thing tv did to try and win a challenge that apparently needs to change his entire character now according to some people??? like it’s not actually going to continue in tpot considering any book and ice cube interactions are either out the window or will probably just be about the whole “taco abandoned us kill her!!!!!” arc honestly edit: i have made a horrible mistake i typed a long comment of my opinion they’re invented 70 ways of replying with “i’m not reading all of that” as we speak
@@toejammergaming i genuinely don’t know honestly this was meant to be much shorter just generally saying “the alliance was possibly meant to go this route” and then i just kept getting new ideas for my argument
so true. pencil is still my favourite character... but that's mainly from the BFDI/BFDIA era. bfb just ruined their characters. I also really hope idfb gets continued to give them another chance.
I mean I doubt that unless they do something unique too it. IDFB is a season that was before BFB which it could show the downfall the freesmart and how it got toxic that book and ice cube distant themselves
I really agree with this because bubble match and pencil I feel got ruined in bfb but in post split bubble and ruby were alright. I just also miss them just being friends and hanging out and pencil being a loved character in bfdi to make her last so long without any votes against her and bfdia was a great season and idfb has started off great!
After BFDIA 6 Pencil seems to be (albeit slowly) respecting the alternates a bit more. I really hope we see more of this and maybe even have them become a much healthier group and probably even letting Book and Ice Cube in as official members. Plus in IDFB Pencil seems to realize Match wasn’t necessarily the nicest person (I know Pencil isn’t entirely innocent here but you get what I’m saying) and honestly it seems like a really interesting plot point to explore.
They are mostly thinking that freesmart is always being in almost every season and its looks so annoying. Looks like they tried to split up them but its gets even worse because after that you cant see really big development and new arcs from every freesmart member. So what we actually got is match and bubble having an endless controverssion, pencil getting eliminated from the start(💀), ice cube doing almost nothing and book having an mental breakdown because of her own personality.
The weirdest part though is after match and pencil got eliminated they acted like their normal selfs again, they knew how to wrjte them correctly but with bfb and the first few episodes especially they give you the person to vote against, you just have the illusion of free will.
I kinda knew it was over with the entire alliance as soon as I’ve seen that book and icy were still viewed as “alternates” by pencil and match. The thing is, in one of the BFDIA episodes match just straight up booted them out of the party atop the Eiffel Tower due to their statuses as alternates, which was a red flag for a toxic relationship. And I absolutely saw it coming as soon as book and icy dissociated themselves with freesmart. Also, 358
I really wish match didn’t get eliminated right after she started to develop too. It would’ve been nice to see that sort of storyline for her (i wish she could’ve gotten into tpot instead of pencil too😭)
I think they could have the alliance re form inside of the exit, with match and pencil having an alliance with bracelety (due to relations with ice cube) and liy (as she is the only person who bossed penci l around excluding gb) and it would also be a good excuse to bring back some characters people want more screen time of like stapy and dora
The Alliance would have sooo much less screentime. The last time the writers looked on the exitors was 5 episodes ago. As there is a new writer who probably has no idea what TPOT characters are like and the screentime, they gave DPA a lot of screentime but Teardrop had 15 seconds. If there are characters from one season ago in one spot, then the writer definitely won't know about them. This is why Bottle's personality was different in TPOT 3, and double eliminations also started, it's all because of the change of writers, but the main topic is that there's a lot of unbalanced screentime, and the exitors probably got the least out of any other character in the show. They had around twice as much screen time as Teardrop in TPOT 4, which means that they've had 34 seconds of screentime throughout the series. Satomi was most likely planning to bring them back in maybe TPOT 5 because it's the 5th episode, kind of like a milestone, but the writer completely changed mid-season. It's likely if Bubble and Ruby reunite in the EXIT, we won't ever really see their dynamic in TPOT because their only screentime was the post-credit scene
@@Personusingyt If there is a change of writers, i think by just watching bfb pre split would be enough to get an understanding of the characters, or at least give an idea for the writers about which characters get more screentime. At this rate, the writers are going to completely forget half of the teams, for example, the S, TSTOE and teardrop all got barely any screentime compared to just not who is only getting screentime because of pillow, and are you ok has been one of the focuses for 2 episodes in a row. Finally, you can not deny that they are hinting at the exitors coming back as a big plot point in the show, four is back and they keep on referencing david and dora, not only in Tpot 6 but also in TPOT 4 with davidland and even in BFB post split with Flower being mistaken for Dora.
I’m gonna make a guess and say that Satomi wrote the Freesmart Alliance out, I mean she tried getting rid of nickel because they just didn’t like them and that’s why beep was UFE 3 times so I wouldn’t be surprised is she tried the same with match and pencil and possibly even Ruby or bubble, also you mentioned that The Writer was fired and the only writer I can Remember being fired is Satomi, but I’m just guessing
It was for a completely different reason lmao, it was because Satomi was consuming a lot of time by making a bunch of good ideas but quit, and that was the end of the highly polished episodes.
I guess 336. Would IDFB be about what happens before BFB, or would IDFB 2 take place in the present? If it is about what happens before, then it might show how the alliance gets more toxic or something. If Freesmart is to be redeemed, then it seems that could happen in a sixth season. Maybe in TPOT we could see more of what Book and Ice Cube think about the alliance. In TPOT 2, Ice Cube gets angry from the mention of a pencil (not Pencil, _a_ pencil). Even if a sixth season or TPOT or something could redeem the alliance, things likely will not be the same as they were before.
I think you can really tell it’s mainly the writing that changed Pencil when BFDIA got picked up again. The first thing Pencil says is “just stop before I kick you out of freesmart” which she definitely NEVER would’ve said in BFDIA. It’s so out of pocket for her since I believe she’s never said or implied anything like that throughout BFDIA and BFDI. It feels like they forgot how to write her like they used to and now can only think of mean and rude things she would do. Like yeah she definitely was always a little rude and probably would’ve slowly grown into the person she is in BFB, but the writing in the continuation of BFDIA just makes it feel like BFDIA stopped at 5e, BFB happened, and then we went back to BFDIA in the actual timeline
we can only hope that TPOT or whatever season 6 is, gives Freesmart (the alliance) a satisfying ending. IDFB could also give us some closure I guess, although the writers are seriously pressured to somehow justify why Freesmart got so derailed in BFB. Hopefully Pencil joins TPOT, as despite being a really old character, we don’t really know much about her without the alliance. Maybe that will be the saving grace for the alliance, because the current state of it is the complete opposite of satisfying. also the number is probably 93
@themightygallium9509 that makes no sense, I'm not even sure the team formed because of that. She can't be on a single team because Book is on JN, Ice Cube is on The S, and the rest of her alliance is in a completely different show.
It's really awesome how bfdia had so much potential and now is being continued by jacknjellify Btw that writter did the same thing of ruining some characters in BFB not only to Iance, but to BEEP too, because he didn't like nickel, that's tge the reason BEEP was up for elimination so many times, and that also happened when iance lost 2 times too
In my opinion I never liked match and pencil because of what jerks they were to their so called “friends.” They were manipulating bubble to feel bad about herself when she did nothing wrong and then book and ice cube realized that they were better off not hanging around them anymore and became their own alliance (except for when book pressured ice cube and stuff but that’s another topic)
I'm going to be honest, this video seems like it's mostly viewing Freesmart positively because of nostalgia, because the team was fairly dull in BFDI. I can get that BFB 1 was a sharp turn for the alliance, but even then BFDIA 5 showed some rifts with the alliance with how Pencil yelled a Ruby on top of Evil Leafy. BFB was actually doing something interesting with the alliance for the Match and Bubble arc, even if it was cut short with Match's elimination.
1:34 YESSSS THANK YOU Pencil was always one of my favorite characters. And I believe that out of all the characters that were affected from this writing, Pencil got the shortest end of the straw. Imagine from being the last BFDI contestant to get a (elimination) vote to the first contestant to leave BFB. Since then, alot of people didn't understand why I liked Pencil (at least those I assumed watched BFB first or only BFB?) and thought her reputation would forever be defined by that. That's why I'm VERY glad that the writers maintained her character in the reboot, and was (to my surprise) voted back in TPOT! I can rest easy knowing that her story didn't end at a sour note and she can shine the same way (or even better) she did in BFDI.
I had a preminition back in 2019 that Satomi was behind all this, and learning now that she was showrunner in all the bad episodes proves I'm right. Justice for Firey, Leafy, Stapy, Puffball, Loser, Taco, and Bubble.
Nope. Stapy got eliminated in the BFB 8 voting (not written by satomi). Loser got eliminated in the BFB 6 voting (not written by satomi). Not sure why Puffball needs justice, she's pretty good. And Taco only started sucking in post-split, which Satomi didn't write. And Satomi was only the showrunner for the first two episodes of TPOT, and that's it. Maybe before you start hating on one particular writer, you should get your facts straight?
@@rifoxu I'm referring solely to BFB here, pre-split. Stapy's downfall in BFB 8 (where he made the fake buzzer)was because of cursed writing, Loser's downfall in BFB 7 (the """""""""""""""lie""""""""""""""") was because of cursed writing, Taco wasn't granted a satisfying treatment in BFB 13-15, such a happy ending was instead undeservedly handed to Book and Lollipop (despite my opinions on them improving due to later episodes). Bubble, well, you watched the video, didn't you? And Firey and Leafy, don't get me fucking started. BFB 15 is honestly the episode that made me lose faith in the object show community overall, as if they were willing to screw a team over over something that happened 7 years ago at that point, they will mess up anything and anyone without mercy. And I was proven right with even the episodes WITHOUT Satomi, such as Message to Loser (one of the worst songs to ever come out of online media, down there with Turning Over A New Leaf and Chug Jug With You) and Taco's and Firey's eliminations proved that you can't trust A-NY-BO-DY in this object show community, not even the voters - a point proved even further with the elimination of Fries and the upcoming elimination of Clock, as well as Fanny surviving TWO eliminations despite being solely """responsible""" for Loser's """downfall""". I have trust issues now because of this community. There's a saying that a show is well written if you get angry at a character for doing something wrong, and it's badly written if you get angry at the writers for a character doing something wrong. I could not, for the life of me, find any instance of what happened to those seven being in character. In fact, all of these episodes that I hated (which, AGAIN, were BFB 1-15 and not the post-split and TPOT eras like you think I'm thinking about) had Satomi in the writings, and that's why I'm pretty sure she's behind it, either through her own personal vendetta or by matters of negligence. There's also the thing that I heard in the comments that Nickel's team was up for elimination THRICE because she hated him, which is pretty shitty if you ask me - it's kind of like the equivalent to the Squishy Cherries losing so many times in challenges to the point that they were 5 members at a time when the Squashy Grapes were 10 members. This sounds like a rumor probably to you, but looking at the way she spoiled Book's team like a spoiled child who never learned how to live life in the real world, it's very believable. It should be noted, though, that I was more present in this community during the BFB eras and not the TPOT eras. TPOT, after watching the first 6 episodes, is written way better than BFB, and it serves the honor of having, in my opinion, the only two good Satomi episodes, as all the episodes of BFB, that I watched, at least, because I stopped partway through due to not liking it anymore, were bullshit in one way or another (BFB 1: The poor treatment of Bubble, BFB 2: Leafy's attitude change, BFB 3: The start of that awful, AWFUL beef between the Bleh members, BFB 4: The feud between Golf Ball and 8-Ball, BFB 5: Nickel being up for elimination a second time, BFB 6: Four being an absolute asshole in the first half, BFB 7: Loser's """lie""" and him not getting a proper sendoff, BFB 8: The continuation of Bubble's awful treatment, Match acting like a spoiled brat, and Stapy getting given the downward spiral button, BFB 9: Bleh not being up for elimination, BFB 10: Bleh not being up for elimination, BFB 11: Bleh not being up for elimination and Bubble having hope for Match when she shouldn't have had any, BFB 12: Bleh not being up for elimination and their feud worsening, Bubble being ruined and acting like a completely stupid person, BFB 13: Bleh not being up for elimination and the start of Book's undeserved redemption arc, BFB 14: Book saving Taco and Ice Cube, BFB 15: Book being safe due to her """"redemption arc"""" as well as Lollipop, Bleh being FIRST safe, and that absolute bullshit that was the Firey-Leafy beef, and BFB 16: The split). But if you call that not "facts", then go ahead, I don't want to give any fucks anymore with any jacknjellify shit. To me, the show died when they killed Fireafy anyway, and not even them getting their friendship back in BFB 22-30 can heal the wounds. "If you say that about the other 8 characters, why don't you think Pencil and Match deserved redemption arcs?" They were assholes back then, redemption arcs would be WAY too out of character to be worth it. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, or what-fucking-ever.
@@technospyform1578 Satomi actually didn't write a lot of pre-split. She's only credited as writer in a few of them. You can just say that you didn't like pre-split without needing to make up some conspiracy theory, and pinning all the blame to one writer in particular
Personally, I still love freesmart! I love everyone, pacifically pencil! She’s always been one of my favourites and it’s sad to see something like this happen to one of the, what I think is, best teams in the show!! ❤❤❤❤
I actually love bfb’s take on the alliance. The idea of bubble trying to balance morals with the alliance she slowly drifts from is such a cool plot and to be honest, freesmart was in need of a switch up. The main complaint i see is that pencils evilness came out of nowhere but remember, idfb was never finished and I imaging a lot of character development will be there if they finish it.
something probably happened between bfb 1 and idfb 2...what i think happened was that after match escaped something horrific happened giving bubble ptsd and making her sensitive book and ice cube pretty much blame match and pencil for it and the 2 of them never apologized and what happened either gave them an ego rush or it just scared them so severely that they put on a façade of a mean attitude to feal safe by scaring everyone ells away
They're like the armless alliance if you take everything that makes them good and throw it out the window. I wish idfb continued, maybe the contestants slowly rebuild yoyel city and characters slowly get added in as the episodes go by. Instead of characters arcs being forgotten due to a character leaving they can get resolved properly. Just imagine....
icy and book not being in iance makes sense. both in and out of universe it's been years since idfb and even in bfdia match and pencil did not respect book and icy so it's natural for book to want to split. also that would make 6/8 of their team just the alliance also i think having pencil as a first boot was the best option in iance since it helped fuel arcs on the team (match-bubble), helped develop fanny (one of the several new characters) and pencil herself has already had years of screentime compared to the thirty or so minutes of all the newbies all you're losing really is having pencil send lightning after people tbh i like what they did with (formerly) freesmart on bfb even if some executions weren't the best (taco book)
i kinda agree and disagree because pencil getting out did help develop fanny but the match-bubble arc just didnt feel complete after match not being able to get a redemption arc
man its almost like bfb is the worst season. like people say that "ohh it was so much better pre split" which. no. it wasnt. the writing was "lol random xd" and was chock full of character assassinations, the animation was jittery and hard to watch, its just a damn shame bc it had potential, as shown in tpot (which is still not as good as bfdi and bfdia but its still better)
The writing was way better when you have that big of a cast you’ll have to write off some characters and it’s not like they ruined a significant amount of the cast unlike post split and the humor was 10 times better than post split at least it still works when you rewatch it also the animation mixed with the background music made the season peak every episode was an absolute work of art that somehow slowly devolved into the cheap ahh post split style at least in tpot they found a way to make it look good just rewatch the show and you’ll see the difference
The writing was great, the animation I agree with but that's only for the first few episodes. Episodes in late pre split such as bfb 11, bfb 12, basically all of those up to bfb 16 are peak
@@cloudyfromtpotreal tf why do people hate on the early bfb animation it was amazing and I hated how it slowly devolved into the cheap slop that is the post split bfb
Think that if they continue idfb they should add more of a sort of fade that shows us how they like became there new personalities eg. Maybye everyone being mean to match and pencil making them despise more bubble being abused by somone and something like that to book qnd ice cube cause it would make more scense
I can see what you mean, but I think IDFB might have more opportunity to explain the sudden shift in BFB 1, maybe the IDFB season can show Match and Pencil slowly becoming more cruel overtime. If they decide to ever finish IDFB anyway.
I love how people say “Satomi shouldn’t have left the writing team” and “We want Satomi back” when she arguably ruined more original well-established characters than any other writer on the team I love hypocrisy
She also talks on discord about Michael not liking her writing. Tbh some of her jokes that Micheal didn’t like were kinda funny but it’s kinda weird that everyone makes it seem like she was the best writer ever
@@AridMeerkat Yeah, that’s pretty odd, but she wrote BFB 13 and 14 which are considered some of the best episodes of BFB so I can see where they’re coming from However, she also had some rumors that she hated Nickel so much that she put team BEEP UFE so many times to try to get him eliminated, but it failed On top of her supposedly ruining Pin in TPOT 2
If JnJ ever do a another season after both idfb and tpot then I think Match would be nicer and try to make it up with bubble she genuinely felt bad for what she did but unfortunately the viewers voted her off smh
I feel free smart got flanderized cause of match and pencils sarcasm to just rude. Also there are so much more characters in the bfb that they decide to lower screen time with free smart and focused on other characters but idk just my theory
@@PeytonianYT i mean, you couldve just like... said tfi?? when the average person thinks 'first season of bfdi' they think bfdi because the series in general is referred to as bfdi and it's like... the first animated season
@@PeytonianYT ...okay? i mean.. it didn't. it really didn't work. a total of one person commented to ask you because you felt the need to want to correct everyone about it despite bfdi being universally considered the first season. like, oh wow! you consider tfi to be the first season! good for you! do you want a cookie? just. don't go trying to act as if tfi is ACTUALLY considered the first season because, as before stated, that is clearly not how jacknjellify thinks of it.
pencil used to be one of my favs :( anyway but i mean the alliance suddenly becoming toxic kinda relates in real life, as my old nice friend group suddenly became toxic- and it happens to other people too, that’s just life. BUT WHY FREESMART ALLIANCEEEEE
I also felt like the part where Pencil made Lightning zap people they didn’t like was way too dramatic and felt really weird for BFB’s tone, early BFB could’ve been done better but I think it got better at episode six.
my favorite character is pencil, seeing her just straight up being mean in bfb just annoys me, i wish that the person that changed pencil and match's personality realized what they were doing while bfb 1 was in production
They really pulled a reverse flower on pencil and match and it’s so annoying man. Free smart imo was the best alliance and I hope they can return to their former glory the chemistry between their team members in Bfdia and idfb(can’t say to much about idfb cause only 1 episode but still). Sure pencil and match were always controlling or egotistical sure book and ice cube were always a little bit disgruntled but bfb blew that out of proportion and also added the sting of bubble amplifying some of her worst traits. I just hope free smart somehow gets reunited one day of match and pencil get out of the exit and when tpot ends
ive been waiting for freesmart being “So Horrible Oh Yikes Oh Geez Oh No😭‼️💔” to be actually shown because its treated like it was an awful experience for the members but like. is it gonna happen because freesmart still seems to be going great
Tbf,pencil didn't seem to care when icy got out and Immediately went on replacing her. I think it's building up,but slowly. The writers probably wants us to have freesmart being "healthy" and having fun together before things go downhill since there's a chance we will never see them like this again,or at least for a while.
I get the book and icecube thing a bit as iances two losses would have almost definitely led to either match and another, or just the two other members of it being eliminated. (As match prior to bfb was always the only member of freesmart that wasn't loved by most.) But i agree that derailing a character because you don't like them is abhorent. Especially when you aren't an original creator and one of them(cary) still loves freesmart. (I believe he stated that match and tb were his favourites which is why he uses them for promotion so much). Its similar to chloe in miraculours. Where she was an amazing loved character, but one of the writers hated her so they stopped her redemption short and derailed her before removing her from the show.
Tbh I used to hated the new change in BFB 1 but I really don’t care anymore kind of glad that they were written the way they did, They we’re getting overrated not letting most of the BFDIA contestants (before the hiatus) have a chance? So they kind of opened a gate during BFB and plus it made it more interesting throughout BFB it’s just another phase during the arc of freesmart.
Their Alliance were my favourite and really only thing that I found entertaining. BFB was really good but man they just did Pencil and Match dirty, they’ve always been ‘bossy’ but it felt more like a joke (for the audience) or ironic (like ‘girlboss’ vibes).. BFB pencil was just plain rude and now she’s back for TPOT she’s also kind of.. reformed?? Still rude though. Can’t remember her being so violent just doesn’t sound like her, Pencil’s been more like carefree, don’t care sort of character (well except her alliance). I am happy BFDIA is back and the pencil we see seems to be more aligned with BFDI’s (what I call true) pencil. 😂
I hated them in bfb 1 and bfb 8, but i actually enjoyed what they were doing with bubble and match apologizing, but match got voted off before anything else could happen 😭 Hopefully if theres a season 6, they are dealt with properly
kinda weird because after match apologized she didn't get redeemed and got out immediately but when book apologized she got redeemed and was safe from elimination in bfb 15. i wished match stayed ngl because the writers couldve done something with her and bubble maybe even with ice cube
i dunno why i say "bubble becomes overly sensitive outta nowhere" like that's kinda bubbles main trait is being sensitive, shes a flipn bubble lol. i think she was bein "overly sensitive" bc her friends where acting up too much for her to handel
Good Point: In BFDIA, Alliance in Free💜Smart Team. They are so awesome! Pencil was such a hero Match was maybe a judge Ruby was always feelong after all her mistake. Bubble was so good and kind. Book is still wise and also being a caring person Ice Cube was Book's best friend and glad that Pencil accepted her as a member of the Alliance. Overall, Pencil, Match, Bubble, and Book are heroes! Ruby and Ice Cube are innocent and troublemaker but they are also heroes. In BFB, things change. It sad that everything has. Pencil and Match became villains. Bubble becoming innocent and feeling guilty like Ruby who changed herself as hero. Vice Versa for Bubble and Ruby. For, Book and Ice Cube they look so horrifying over Pencil and Match being so villainous! Quite disappointing for this Alliance to break up into pieces. So I do missed really Free💜Smart Team.
I just wish the old old BFDI airlines came back for the newer season but it seems like they make it a redemption because pencil and match did get better when they were inside of foreign teapot 11 so maybe the alliance could come back better than ever
Free smart was owned by the team in bfdi squishy cherries Free smart became the most beloved and popular alliance in object show history now in VfB when pencil was eliminated first the alliance Was traumatizing bubble which lead to the downfall of freesmart
Pencil was in its peak in BFDIA, i hope in TPOT she dosent have that BFB-Behaviour yk (by observing in TPOT, she still has an BFB-kind behaviour) and i also hope Pencil wins in BFDIA, if not, then i hope Coiny or Book wins.
TFI: nothing really happend pencil and match became friends when they were on diffrent teams and nothing again until final 4 ice cube said that she was friends with bubble pencil and match pencil and bubble said obviously not and ice cube glued pencils leg beacuse that and pencils team lost bubble got eliminated then ice cube got eliminated too and pencil won season 0 aka total firey island (TFI)
They genuinely felt like a great team in BFDIA what happened to them 😭
agreed!
Bubble and Ruby and possibly Book carried them in BFDIA, the others sucked…
i felt like pencil and match did get more agressive in every season
@@YoyleMetalBerry honestly pencil, ruby and bubble carried. Book was ok, ice cube was bland and match was fine.
I Agree...
I feel a possible reason for why the Alliance story line was changed so much going into BFB could be because the writers might of wanted to put more of an emphasis on Match or explore how the Alliance would work without Pencil
I wish they made it so that pencil fell into a hole (or something) and couldn't help with the challenge so match had to be in charge.
@asafapowell4813 tf? when did a hole ever take place in all of iance's screentime on BFB 1?
@@PersonusingytThey said they wish
@@Personusingytthey said they wanted that to happen
@@Personusingyt Somebody is dyslexic
I feel bad for match because she genuinely did feel bad about treating bubble and trying to change and then people voted her off I really hope her character didn’t get reset next time we see her
it's kinda weird now that I think about it because people gave book a chance but not match 😭
That’s why I don’t like viewer voting as much as contestant voting, it allows the story’s to move forward, like if a mean character was slowly becoming nice, they could survive for at least 10 episodes and Maybe get eliminated because they didn’t have many friends left, while in viewer voting the mean character trying to reform will get out the first time their UFE, it ruins storylines and also allows the character to not even develop
@finelysquad832 ikr book was being annoying for 10 episodes
@@Crazybenbros8988viewer voting is fine if you know when to put what team up for elimination
In BFB 11, Match and Bubble were starting an arc. Book and Taco's arc was still ongoing. Since Match and Book weren't particularly liked by the audience at that time, you can't put iance or Bleh up for elimination at all. But the writer decided to put iance UFE and got Match voted out
@@Firefly256 true it can be fine at some points, but it is also bad to have an arc with one character disliked more than the other and have them get votes off
You know what I realized? Not only did Bubble last longer than Match and Pencil in both BFDI *and* BFB, she was the one to come up with the idea of making an alliance back in BFDI 1A. Sure, Match and Pencil seem like better leaders, but to demote the original leader to bember? That’s just wrong..
Ploblem is if we went from bfdia 5 none of this wouldve happened, the alliance got ruined for almost no reason
almost a bemb :shok:
Idfb?
@@AdamantWind2071 woops i meant bfb
@@AnakinRodriguesI would disagree, I feel like they just wanted to add more drama and give the other BFBers a chance, Freesmart’s prime would’ve been way too overpowered in BFB.
There's a simple explanation. Pencil and Match were always egotistical, but not like how they were at the start of BFB. Their change was a result of a decision for the sake of the plot going a different way, possibly with flanderization being a factor. Book and Ice Cube noticed the disimprovement, and wanted nothing to do with it, because as they said, the team was unhealthy. Bubble became more sensitive because she felt betrayed by the people she trusted the most. She noticed the alliance changing in a way she disliked, and then she got demoted. Other parts of the plot between Bubble and Match during later episodes are additional examples.
no they were just derailed u cant really explain it like that
@@Intentle That's not the correct usage of the word "derailed" as this kind of criticism.
What you wrote is like claiming that the relationship between Firey and Leafy just got "derailed" during BFB because they finally apologized to each other about the incident during the first season, and concluded that part of the overall story, instead of the two continuing to be silent to each other like they had been for years. What you wrote is like claiming that Blocky just got "derailed" during BFB because he gained more respect for Woody, even though Blocky had previously only been rude to him. What you wrote is like claiming that Fanny has "just derailed" her place on Death PACT Again during TPOT because Lightning convinced her to try improving the team's strategy, even if it means going against the team's sentiment. These details could be considered as derailed in-setting, for example, if Black Hole were to tell Fanny "You're derailing our goal to prevent death!", but in our perspectives observing the narratives as fictional, this isn't derailment, these are simply dynamic characters being dynamic characters, changing and making the plot go in a particular direction.
I wrote that Pencil and Match were always egotistical because it's true, not because of an arbitrary attempt to make their decline sensible. The two characters didn't become mean out of nowhere; they've had their alliance and sense of entitlement over characters like Spongy ever since early in the first season. The true mistake that was made in the production of BFB was making it so that Iance was the first team up for elimination; Pencil got eliminated with nothing interesting having happened from her declined personality, and her elimination was foreseeable.
@@justjames4 chill out dude
they just got written into shit because of a writer
@@Intentle I'm not unchill in the first place. It's fine if you dislike the way Pencil and Match were written. I'm just explaining the circumstances, and how they're more than you describe them as.
It's because of satomi
I actually completely agree with this, when you watch BFDI’s seasons 1 through 4 you can actually see Match and Pencil becoming a bit more irritating, but season 4, as you said, was completely different from what the original alliance used to be. There are so many moments that don’t feel like they match up with the original friend group and one of the original FreeSmart members literally got into a different arc with Taco, who she never interacted with before BFB. It’s depressing to see how the alliance went from being one of the most important, memorable, and beloved things to this irrational, and bossy dictatorship just because of how unstable the writing was back then.
The Exitors Arc could finally be the chance to get Pencil and Match back on the right track to their true selves. The concept itself just really cool to me.
We are 11 months ahead and that did happen, yay! :D
I'm so happy about it 😆
I eat bricks.
This aged well
@@demonguy29 aged better than me, that's for sure.
They did seem to make her good again, for one episode. TPOT 13 just turned her into a 2D character that is only grumpy or happy to see freesmarters
Fun fact: The Aliance was actually started by Bubble, not Pencil.
@@БЗВВО No, Bubble said "we should form an alliance" in the first episode
What is TFI?
@@БЗВВОedit: Oh, total firey island, not sure if that can be counted as canon though.
Tfi is a comic of bfdi made in 2008, basically season 0, I believe its not canon. Cary and Michael made good vids about it
Yeah
IK I WAS WONDERING WHY BUBBLE WAS BEING DEMOTED IN BFB
Semi-Quasi-Related Fun Fact: The reason why Beep was UFE 3 times in BFB was because Satomi really did not like Nickel and wanted him out as soon as possible
Satomi VS Adam lol
@@brunolike8631This would be cool
adam won shes not in the team anymore
And got both David and Roboty eliminated truly unfair
I guess I can understand that, nickel didn't have much of a personality in bfb.
I know literally nobody will read this but here's my complete thoughts on each individual member, including and starting Book and Icy since they're the least centric to the alliance.
Book: Book is in a... peculiar position for me. She acts a bit like a middle person between the alliance and outsiders. While most of the Alliance members are only talkitive with other members, Book aside from Icy is very conversational with many people especially in bfdia. 5 is the peak of Book's devotion to the alliance, she chooses to be on the new team, and seems to enjoy her time there unlike what we'll see in the coming season. And that's kind of it, book just makes the conscious decision that Freesmart is unhealthy and ditches them alongside Icy.
Ice Cube: Literally the same exact story she just had previous interactions with the alliance before bfdia and Book got on the show.
Ruby: Ruby is a bit more interesting than I.C. and Book. While Book doesn't really adjust to the alliance, Ruby goes all in. She becomes a center piece in the alliance and sticks with them throughout. She has her moments of distancing but is definitely more open with the alliance than everyone else. In particular I do find her friendship with Bubble interesting. Ruby goes from not wantimg Bubble alive in Bfdia to really being great friends in bfb post split since everyone else is either in tpot or already eliminated. This really allowed for Ruby to shine and overall solidified her as a very good character imo.
Bubble: Here's where things get very fun and where these explanations get long. Bubble is a very intriguing character she's very helpful and kind, yet finds her way into an alliance with 2 people who are exact opposites. This difference comes to a head when Match and especially Pencil become extremely rude and Bubble eventually can't take what they've become especially in the case if Match. Bubble goes back to her nice and kind ways in post split which makes her kind of uninteresting during that time. If they had altered Bubble's character after her conforting of Match, I feel like she could've been a solid contestant, not a winning one, but definitely a solid one. It just didn't materialize and now we're stuck with what is basically the same Bubble from bfdi. The one who offers a helping hand to anyone she meets.
Pencil: Pencil may just have one of the oddest turn-around's of a character in literally any show. In bfdi Pencil is kind of a second Bubble just not as overly nice which makes her entertaining and less boring. This entertaining personality leads to her never recieving a single vote going into the merge. Her constant shunning of Icy is what I think leads to her demise as she is eliminated in bfdi 19 that and the fact she's agaist the eventual winner and a player who rejoined recently. Bfdia is where a very noticable change occurs, she goes from being entertaining -ish to being kind of mean, she kicks out Book and Icy from the dance party and overall is just rude to them and a kind of Ruby. Bfb though is where everything and I mean everything that made Pencil a good character changes. She goes from being a loyal alliance member and fairly nice to outsiders to becoming a psychotic and harsh leader. She goes from kind to rude, from caring to killing, and easily the worst change. From being a loving and caring alliance leader to a harsh and demanding nitpicker. Constantly getting on Bubble for trying to stop Lighting from killing Fanny and other people. But that's really all we've gotten now, since bfb 2 we've not seen hardly anything of Pencils' character so we don't know if she's made a comeback or has continued to stray away from her allies aside from Match.
Match: Now for probably the most interesting of the bunch imo. Match in bfdi was not that great of a character, not getting much screen time and just overall not being interesting led to her boot. Bfdia is a massive change for her as she becomes a Pencil 2.0 with a little more sass and rudeness. But she does stay loyal to the alliance throughout so that at least saves her a bit in that season. Bfb like Pencil is where Match changes, she is once again a Pencil 2.0 but to a lesser extent, enough to keep her in over her bff. Match's character remains unchanged until Bubble finally tells Match how she feels. This episode somewhat shows a completely different side to both characters Bubble becomes assertive to her friends and Match from what I can see, seems to see the gravity of what she's done and how it has affected the whole alliance. This realization unfortunately doesn't save her from getting the boot and thus ruins what could have been a Match redemption arc that may have finally seen her step out of Pencil's shadow and allowed her to become her own character instead of a second Pencil. In her few scenes in the Exit she seems to have mellowed out, hopefully we can somehow see a redemption arc one day, but there's not telling if we'll get that at all.
It's just really unfortunate how horrible Match and Pencil specifically went from being very good and iconic characters for the right reasons to being rude cruel and iconic for all the wrong reasons. For me tpot can't be the ending of Bfdi and Freesmart without some sort of resolution, whether that happens in the Exit or somewhere else I don't care, all I want is some resolution to the original alliance that quite literally kicked everything off.
Side note Pencil and Match were always my 2 faovrites through the entire series, always my top 2. Pencil was my favorite before I swapped to Match, even though she's just like Pencil, I can't bring myself to dislike her and take her out of the spot as my favorite unlike Pencil who has fallen way down.
If you took the time to read everything, first of all how? And second of all thank you. See ya later everyone hopefuy we get some closure on the crashing and burning hot mess that Freesmart is right now. Thanks again!
yes i took the time to read this and i am going to like it
I read the entire thing, and I agree with most of it.
Yeah, let's hope freesmart will finally get a satisfying ending one day...
Anyways , great comment! I basically agree with your opinion
you're so real for this and i cannot believe i read all of that
Damn Pencil fell off hard
they likely did this on purpose to avoid their alliance having too much power
Have power?
@@asafapowell4813an alliance of 4 in a team of 8
Ohhhh
@@Taerae_bearbut what if it was?
@@Taerae_bear people would've really liked the alliance at the time, flower and snowball were hated while fanny and lightning were newbies
They really did pull a flower on pencil, just making the fans hate them and then they get the boot the episode after.
Exactly
the difference is that flower was never out of character (assuming you’re talking about her in early bfdi)
more like the opposite of flower (nice to mean)
@@mimipanda123 yeah 🥲
BFDIA6 Came out, and continued Freesmart, and I liked them, the dynamic was still fun, and the story of Pencil learning that Ice Cube is more useful then she thought and she needs to appreciate her more as a team member and friend is a good ARC! Can't wait to see more of it.
75, also completely agree with this Pencil used to be one of my favourite characters, but it just felt so unnecessary to derail them (especially Pencil) so much, I hope it is explained more in IDFB where Pencil slowly becomes more controlling instead of just the jump to mean and abusive
Pencil is still my favorite, but I REALLY hope she get some redemption if she joins TPOT
@@rb.vyou predicted it
@rb.vshe’s here now, and I don’t think she got an improvement
I like to divide FreeSmart in two teams, BFDI-BFDIA FreeSmart and BFB-TPOT FreeSmart (I also do this with some characters), so my favorite team is BFDI-BFDIA FreeSmart
im sorry dawg but derailment and negative development are different things
there was a huge time gap between idfb and bfb so we don't know what happened with freesmart within that timeframe and satomi writing them as more toxic makes it really interesting to wonder what happened with them, especially now that bfdia's return is slowly showing how the group is becoming slightly less positive
but to be fair this video was made before bfdia came back so yea
The group seems more positive in the new BFDIA I think that they start becoming bad near idfb cuz even needle was scared of them. We rlly need bfdia and idfb to be finished
@@56fennix yeah
@@56fennixthat’s why i think needle joining freesmart in bfdia 12 was the perfect opportunity. we know she’s leaves freesmart eventually, maybe she finds out a really bad secret they’ve been hiding which causes her to leave. and whatever it is would have something to do with the science museum
@@ivywt yeah that’s what i think! maybe they’re the ones who had the spiked clubs with gb? they do have a tendency to call her bozo. maybe that’s why needle left
@@56fennix ehhh pencil has been okayish in the recent 3 episodes. she was definetly at her worst in the latest episode though not caring about book.
When I first watched the BFDIA season, I thought that the FreeSmart alliance was very evil and powerful, but after watching this video, I now feel terrible about its breakup and continuation of the story during BFB, along with the fallout of many relationships between the members. I hope this alliance can be rebuilt sooner or later.
basic summarization: i personally think the alliance was going down this way, possibly from the start
honestly? i feel like the whole alliance “derailment” thing was overall the direction this alliance was meant to go
while it was subtle at first, it overall felt that while freesmart were good to the people in their alliance, they usually really don’t care about the people that they don’t like
they actively celebrate spongy’s death, they instantly kick out golf ball when she accidentally falls in, and pencil just laughs at ruby for wanting to recover the people outside of the alliance in bfdia
even match and pencil’s behavior towards the alliance members themselves are kind of justified
pencil’s shown to be rude to ruby on several occasions, seeing ruby and ice cube die while ruby is trying to save pencil’s life (pencil doesn’t even die from falling???) and she only seems angry about the fact that now she’ll have to recover them too, despite the minor inconvenience of the task of recovering them both
the only concern she shows for book and ice cube is when they leave the alliance, where they panic for likely the sole reason that their alliance is smaller now
and considering the fact that match and pencil have gotten much worse as people, i’d imagine that book and ice cube wouldn’t really approve of what the alliance has become, which i think is a decent reason to not want to be in the alliance anymore, especially considering they’re already mistreated for being “alternates” (one big example is getting physically kicked out of the alliance dance party zone thing for not being members of the alliance)
and i personally think it’s completely fair that book and ice cube think the alliance is unhealthy for them, considering the fact that while they’re still in the alliance, they’re viewed as simply alternates. replacements, even
i don’t think book and ice cube aren’t even in the alliance scenes before four appears and announces the competition, so it’s clear they might have been separating themselves from the alliance
and the fact that ruby is in the alliance, and she isn’t an alternate is the only reason she’s still in the alliance, even if she honestly has more reasons to leave than she does to stay (the fact that she’s in a similar situation as book and ice cube, she still gets mistreated occasionally, and how she doesn’t even actively support the alliance, considering the fact that all of the toxicity in the alliance basically just disappears as soon as match is eliminated
as for bubble, she’s definitely the most interesting one here in my opinion
she actively goes against the alliance’s change, but she seems to genuinely value her place in the alliance
out of the alliance and excluding match and pencil, bubble was the only member of the alliance that had a previously established connection to match and pencil
it’s completely possible she sees the alliance as more of a friend group, which is honestly a valid way to see it considering the alliance’s dynamic in bfdia and the fact that they stay together in idfb despite there being no competition shows that the alliance is clearly more than a way to advance in the competition
and it honestly kind of makes things more interesting that, as i’ve said, she was friends with match and pencil before the alliance
she was there for the whole game, watching her alliance slowly turn from just a harmless friend group to.. whatever it ended up being in bfb
so yeah that would probably kind of hurt her feelings slightly
just a bit
my final point is the scene from bfdia and the whole reason that ironically bubble of all people doesn’t want the alliance to grow: golf ball’s book says that alliances with more than three members are more likely to split up and become enemies
due to how the alliance essentially crumbled into three separate groups as bfb went on, golf ball was right; they did end up splitting up and becoming enemies
with ruby now leading the remaining alliance (possibly until four decides to finally remember he banished people to math class and actually take them out), the alliance has potential to become a much more healthy group
the alliance has potential to become as good as, if not better than what it used to be
and i would genuinely like to see what would happen if the alliance (excluding alternates) got back together in the state that they’re in
what would pencil and match think about this? would they try to change the alliance back to how it used to be? would they succeed?
considering match’s whole scene with bubble before her elimination, it’s honesty completely possible that match could be proud of how the alliance turned out.
but pencil’s much more interesting, considering how we never really got to see her thoughts on her alliance since match’s elimination
in the rejoin, she claims that her alliance needs her, and they just can’t live without her, but it honestly seems like they’re doing much better without her
there’s so many things they could do with her
match could potentially speak with pencil and get pencil to actually understand how their alliance has changed, maybe even trying to convince pencil to make ruby the leader
pencil could, as i’ve said before, try to change the alliance back to its old bfb 1 ways, possibly being actively opposed by even match considering the fact that i personally believe she would be proud of what ruby’s done with the alliance
or it’s completely possible that ruby wouldn’t even want to associate with pencil if she fully realizes that she derailed the alliance, possibly forcing pencil to try and get ruby to forgive her so she can get back into the alliance
match could also possibly end up also being in this situation with pencil, whether it’s ruby kicking her out too (although i don’t think bubble would like that very much, considering the fact that she feels directly responsible for match’s elimination for not forgiving her, she would probably encourage ruby to forgive match, maybe even pencil
there’s also honestly a really cool concept that even if it’s unlikely and possibly out of character depending on how this is done, could be genuinely kind of cool
ruby allows pencil and match back in through one of my earlier ideas, but ends up slowly derailing the alliance in the same way pencil did in past bfdi seasons, and pencil and match have to stop ruby from making the same mistakes they did
it’s unlikely, but honestly it would be a pretty cool arc
seriously though people are complaining about a lack of actual arcs in tpot but they don’t even see this whole plot that’s been going on through the entire series relating to the alliance
and i’m one of those people that honestly enjoys the less story-relevant side of bfdi like the whole existence of just not and the s! more than the arcs and important scenes, such as the “taco abandoned us kill her!!!!!” arc and literally that one thing tv did to try and win a challenge that apparently needs to change his entire character now according to some people???
like it’s not actually going to continue in tpot considering any book and ice cube interactions are either out the window or will probably just be about the whole “taco abandoned us kill her!!!!!” arc honestly
edit: i have made a horrible mistake
i typed a long comment of my opinion
they’re invented 70 ways of replying with “i’m not reading all of that” as we speak
WHO FINNA READ THIS DOCUMENTARY BLUD 💀💀💀
How much time did you spend typing this?
@@toejammergaming i genuinely don’t know honestly
this was meant to be much shorter
just generally saying “the alliance was possibly meant to go this route” and then i just kept getting new ideas for my argument
bro really wrote Bible 2
I ain’t reading allat
Two words: blame satomi
YEAHHHHH HE SAID IT!
She didn't write that part
satomi is one of the best bfdi writers though
@@Iazibonesas much as i love her she did REALLY TRIED TO GET nickel out
@@thesmartestluigi nickel was never rlly that interesting or unique as a character anyways
so true. pencil is still my favourite character... but that's mainly from the BFDI/BFDIA era. bfb just ruined their characters. I also really hope idfb gets continued to give them another chance.
I mean I doubt that unless they do something unique too it. IDFB is a season that was before BFB which it could show the downfall the freesmart and how it got toxic that book and ice cube distant themselves
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I really agree with this because bubble match and pencil I feel got ruined in bfb but in post split bubble and ruby were alright. I just also miss them just being friends and hanging out and pencil being a loved character in bfdi to make her last so long without any votes against her and bfdia was a great season and idfb has started off great!
"How 1 Writer Ruined The Freesmart Alliance Forever"
TPOT 11: Huh, wonder who that's for.
Who
After BFDIA 6 Pencil seems to be (albeit slowly) respecting the alternates a bit more. I really hope we see more of this and maybe even have them become a much healthier group and probably even letting Book and Ice Cube in as official members. Plus in IDFB Pencil seems to realize Match wasn’t necessarily the nicest person (I know Pencil isn’t entirely innocent here but you get what I’m saying) and honestly it seems like a really interesting plot point to explore.
Yeah, the alternates even seem equal to the full members in IDFB as well, so maybe BFDIA 6 is the beginning of that.
@@VectorJW9260 I sure as hell hope so. They’re honestly really enjoyable when they're like that and honestly probably at their best
@@sonicmariogaming2222 ehhh pencil called match high need all because match missed pencil
@FfersBetter book didn't do anything though?
She never said she was a jerk she said she was NEEDY. Which is now implied as her just wanting to see pencil.
They are mostly thinking that freesmart is always being in almost every season and its looks so annoying. Looks like they tried to split up them but its gets even worse because after that you cant see really big development and new arcs from every freesmart member. So what we actually got is match and bubble having an endless controverssion, pencil getting eliminated from the start(💀), ice cube doing almost nothing and book having an mental breakdown because of her own personality.
The weirdest part though is after match and pencil got eliminated they acted like their normal selfs again, they knew how to wrjte them correctly but with bfb and the first few episodes especially they give you the person to vote against, you just have the illusion of free will.
They were my favorite team, my whole childhood. But in 2017 i found out i have many unpopular opinions. Freesmart deserves a piece of my childhood!!
I kinda knew it was over with the entire alliance as soon as I’ve seen that book and icy were still viewed as “alternates” by pencil and match. The thing is, in one of the BFDIA episodes match just straight up booted them out of the party atop the Eiffel Tower due to their statuses as alternates, which was a red flag for a toxic relationship. And I absolutely saw it coming as soon as book and icy dissociated themselves with freesmart. Also, 358
I really wish match didn’t get eliminated right after she started to develop too. It would’ve been nice to see that sort of storyline for her (i wish she could’ve gotten into tpot instead of pencil too😭)
I think they could have the alliance re form inside of the exit, with match and pencil having an alliance with bracelety (due to relations with ice cube) and liy (as she is the only person who bossed penci l around excluding gb) and it would also be a good excuse to bring back some characters people want more screen time of like stapy and dora
The Alliance would have sooo much less screentime. The last time the writers looked on the exitors was 5 episodes ago. As there is a new writer who probably has no idea what TPOT characters are like and the screentime, they gave DPA a lot of screentime but Teardrop had 15 seconds. If there are characters from one season ago in one spot, then the writer definitely won't know about them. This is why Bottle's personality was different in TPOT 3, and double eliminations also started, it's all because of the change of writers, but the main topic is that there's a lot of unbalanced screentime, and the exitors probably got the least out of any other character in the show. They had around twice as much screen time as Teardrop in TPOT 4, which means that they've had 34 seconds of screentime throughout the series. Satomi was most likely planning to bring them back in maybe TPOT 5 because it's the 5th episode, kind of like a milestone, but the writer completely changed mid-season. It's likely if Bubble and Ruby reunite in the EXIT, we won't ever really see their dynamic in TPOT because their only screentime was the post-credit scene
@@Personusingyt If there is a change of writers, i think by just watching bfb pre split would be enough to get an understanding of the characters, or at least give an idea for the writers about which characters get more screentime. At this rate, the writers are going to completely forget half of the teams, for example, the S, TSTOE and teardrop all got barely any screentime compared to just not who is only getting screentime because of pillow, and are you ok has been one of the focuses for 2 episodes in a row. Finally, you can not deny that they are hinting at the exitors coming back as a big plot point in the show, four is back and they keep on referencing david and dora, not only in Tpot 6 but also in TPOT 4 with davidland and even in BFB post split with Flower being mistaken for Dora.
I’m gonna make a guess and say that Satomi wrote the Freesmart Alliance out, I mean she tried getting rid of nickel because they just didn’t like them and that’s why beep was UFE 3 times so I wouldn’t be surprised is she tried the same with match and pencil and possibly even Ruby or bubble, also you mentioned that The Writer was fired and the only writer I can Remember being fired is Satomi, but I’m just guessing
It was for a completely different reason lmao, it was because Satomi was consuming a lot of time by making a bunch of good ideas but quit, and that was the end of the highly polished episodes.
Satomi left the writing team due to creative differences. Her scripts were damn good, but took too long to make.
Satomi should’ve been a writer so that her plot holes could be fixed by other writers
If free smarts reputation was James in the adventure begins: IM COMING OFF THE RAILS *proceeds to derail*
I'll come back when Pencil and Match place the final nail in the coffin: Kicking Bubble out of the alliance.
Yeah, Bubble is whiny and her voice is annoying, especially in BFDI where she was like "oHhHhHhHh nOOOOOOO"
@@Personusingyt I meant kicking her out because they’re ayusses
me: **wakes up from 2017** oh what year is it?
doctor: 2021
me: oh, its time to watch my beloved BFDI and the Freesmart alliance
doctor: about that...
I guess 336. Would IDFB be about what happens before BFB, or would IDFB 2 take place in the present? If it is about what happens before, then it might show how the alliance gets more toxic or something. If Freesmart is to be redeemed, then it seems that could happen in a sixth season. Maybe in TPOT we could see more of what Book and Ice Cube think about the alliance. In TPOT 2, Ice Cube gets angry from the mention of a pencil (not Pencil, _a_ pencil). Even if a sixth season or TPOT or something could redeem the alliance, things likely will not be the same as they were before.
I think you can really tell it’s mainly the writing that changed Pencil when BFDIA got picked up again. The first thing Pencil says is “just stop before I kick you out of freesmart” which she definitely NEVER would’ve said in BFDIA. It’s so out of pocket for her since I believe she’s never said or implied anything like that throughout BFDIA and BFDI. It feels like they forgot how to write her like they used to and now can only think of mean and rude things she would do. Like yeah she definitely was always a little rude and probably would’ve slowly grown into the person she is in BFB, but the writing in the continuation of BFDIA just makes it feel like BFDIA stopped at 5e, BFB happened, and then we went back to BFDIA in the actual timeline
A bit off topic, but your voice is so soothing. I love your videos!
we can only hope that TPOT or whatever season 6 is, gives Freesmart (the alliance) a satisfying ending. IDFB could also give us some closure I guess, although the writers are seriously pressured to somehow justify why Freesmart got so derailed in BFB. Hopefully Pencil joins TPOT, as despite being a really old character, we don’t really know much about her without the alliance. Maybe that will be the saving grace for the alliance, because the current state of it is the complete opposite of satisfying.
also the number is probably 93
If Pencil joins TPOT, she should join the S-Team. That way, she can try to work things out with Ice Cube, kinda similar to Balloon and Nickel.
@themightygallium9509 that makes no sense, I'm not even sure the team formed because of that. She can't be on a single team because Book is on JN, Ice Cube is on The S, and the rest of her alliance is in a completely different show.
It's really awesome how bfdia had so much potential and now is being continued by jacknjellify
Btw that writter did the same thing of ruining some characters in BFB not only to Iance, but to BEEP too, because he didn't like nickel, that's tge the reason BEEP was up for elimination so many times, and that also happened when iance lost 2 times too
smells like satomi
In my opinion I never liked match and pencil because of what jerks they were to their so called “friends.” They were manipulating bubble to feel bad about herself when she did nothing wrong and then book and ice cube realized that they were better off not hanging around them anymore and became their own alliance (except for when book pressured ice cube and stuff but that’s another topic)
I'm going to be honest, this video seems like it's mostly viewing Freesmart positively because of nostalgia, because the team was fairly dull in BFDI. I can get that BFB 1 was a sharp turn for the alliance, but even then BFDIA 5 showed some rifts with the alliance with how Pencil yelled a Ruby on top of Evil Leafy. BFB was actually doing something interesting with the alliance for the Match and Bubble arc, even if it was cut short with Match's elimination.
4:00 that's unfair why is bubble now bember she's the one to create alliance!
1:34 YESSSS THANK YOU Pencil was always one of my favorite characters. And I believe that out of all the characters that were affected from this writing, Pencil got the shortest end of the straw. Imagine from being the last BFDI contestant to get a (elimination) vote to the first contestant to leave BFB. Since then, alot of people didn't understand why I liked Pencil (at least those I assumed watched BFB first or only BFB?) and thought her reputation would forever be defined by that.
That's why I'm VERY glad that the writers maintained her character in the reboot, and was (to my surprise) voted back in TPOT! I can rest easy knowing that her story didn't end at a sour note and she can shine the same way (or even better) she did in BFDI.
I had a preminition back in 2019 that Satomi was behind all this, and learning now that she was showrunner in all the bad episodes proves I'm right.
Justice for Firey, Leafy, Stapy, Puffball, Loser, Taco, and Bubble.
Nope. Stapy got eliminated in the BFB 8 voting (not written by satomi). Loser got eliminated in the BFB 6 voting (not written by satomi). Not sure why Puffball needs justice, she's pretty good. And Taco only started sucking in post-split, which Satomi didn't write. And Satomi was only the showrunner for the first two episodes of TPOT, and that's it. Maybe before you start hating on one particular writer, you should get your facts straight?
@@rifoxu I'm referring solely to BFB here, pre-split. Stapy's downfall in BFB 8 (where he made the fake buzzer)was because of cursed writing, Loser's downfall in BFB 7 (the """""""""""""""lie""""""""""""""") was because of cursed writing, Taco wasn't granted a satisfying treatment in BFB 13-15, such a happy ending was instead undeservedly handed to Book and Lollipop (despite my opinions on them improving due to later episodes). Bubble, well, you watched the video, didn't you? And Firey and Leafy, don't get me fucking started. BFB 15 is honestly the episode that made me lose faith in the object show community overall, as if they were willing to screw a team over over something that happened 7 years ago at that point, they will mess up anything and anyone without mercy. And I was proven right with even the episodes WITHOUT Satomi, such as Message to Loser (one of the worst songs to ever come out of online media, down there with Turning Over A New Leaf and Chug Jug With You) and Taco's and Firey's eliminations proved that you can't trust A-NY-BO-DY in this object show community, not even the voters - a point proved even further with the elimination of Fries and the upcoming elimination of Clock, as well as Fanny surviving TWO eliminations despite being solely """responsible""" for Loser's """downfall""". I have trust issues now because of this community.
There's a saying that a show is well written if you get angry at a character for doing something wrong, and it's badly written if you get angry at the writers for a character doing something wrong. I could not, for the life of me, find any instance of what happened to those seven being in character. In fact, all of these episodes that I hated (which, AGAIN, were BFB 1-15 and not the post-split and TPOT eras like you think I'm thinking about) had Satomi in the writings, and that's why I'm pretty sure she's behind it, either through her own personal vendetta or by matters of negligence. There's also the thing that I heard in the comments that Nickel's team was up for elimination THRICE because she hated him, which is pretty shitty if you ask me - it's kind of like the equivalent to the Squishy Cherries losing so many times in challenges to the point that they were 5 members at a time when the Squashy Grapes were 10 members. This sounds like a rumor probably to you, but looking at the way she spoiled Book's team like a spoiled child who never learned how to live life in the real world, it's very believable.
It should be noted, though, that I was more present in this community during the BFB eras and not the TPOT eras. TPOT, after watching the first 6 episodes, is written way better than BFB, and it serves the honor of having, in my opinion, the only two good Satomi episodes, as all the episodes of BFB, that I watched, at least, because I stopped partway through due to not liking it anymore, were bullshit in one way or another (BFB 1: The poor treatment of Bubble, BFB 2: Leafy's attitude change, BFB 3: The start of that awful, AWFUL beef between the Bleh members, BFB 4: The feud between Golf Ball and 8-Ball, BFB 5: Nickel being up for elimination a second time, BFB 6: Four being an absolute asshole in the first half, BFB 7: Loser's """lie""" and him not getting a proper sendoff, BFB 8: The continuation of Bubble's awful treatment, Match acting like a spoiled brat, and Stapy getting given the downward spiral button, BFB 9: Bleh not being up for elimination, BFB 10: Bleh not being up for elimination, BFB 11: Bleh not being up for elimination and Bubble having hope for Match when she shouldn't have had any, BFB 12: Bleh not being up for elimination and their feud worsening, Bubble being ruined and acting like a completely stupid person, BFB 13: Bleh not being up for elimination and the start of Book's undeserved redemption arc, BFB 14: Book saving Taco and Ice Cube, BFB 15: Book being safe due to her """"redemption arc"""" as well as Lollipop, Bleh being FIRST safe, and that absolute bullshit that was the Firey-Leafy beef, and BFB 16: The split).
But if you call that not "facts", then go ahead, I don't want to give any fucks anymore with any jacknjellify shit. To me, the show died when they killed Fireafy anyway, and not even them getting their friendship back in BFB 22-30 can heal the wounds.
"If you say that about the other 8 characters, why don't you think Pencil and Match deserved redemption arcs?" They were assholes back then, redemption arcs would be WAY too out of character to be worth it.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, or what-fucking-ever.
@@technospyform1578 Satomi actually didn't write a lot of pre-split. She's only credited as writer in a few of them. You can just say that you didn't like pre-split without needing to make up some conspiracy theory, and pinning all the blame to one writer in particular
@@rifoxu ok...? I think we'll probably just have to agree to disagree on this one, BFDI is just fucked from my perspective due to all the bipolar
I regret watching BFB first now. I wish I watched in the order of BFDI -> BFDIA -> IDFB -> BFB now since I heard about the derailment of Freesmart.
Freesmart: exists
bfb writer: *YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH?*
Well, this explains why that "Book of BFDI tips in tricks" in BFDIA 3 was absolutely right
Personally, I still love freesmart! I love everyone, pacifically pencil! She’s always been one of my favourites and it’s sad to see something like this happen to one of the, what I think is, best teams in the show!! ❤❤❤❤
I actually love bfb’s take on the alliance. The idea of bubble trying to balance morals with the alliance she slowly drifts from is such a cool plot and to be honest, freesmart was in need of a switch up. The main complaint i see is that pencils evilness came out of nowhere but remember, idfb was never finished and I imaging a lot of character development will be there if they finish it.
5:29 soooo about that
something probably happened between bfb 1 and idfb 2...what i think happened was that after match escaped something horrific happened giving bubble ptsd and making her sensitive book and ice cube pretty much blame match and pencil for it and the 2 of them never apologized and what happened either gave them an ego rush or it just scared them so severely that they put on a façade of a mean attitude to feal safe by scaring everyone ells away
They're like the armless alliance if you take everything that makes them good and throw it out the window.
I wish idfb continued, maybe the contestants slowly rebuild yoyel city and characters slowly get added in as the episodes go by.
Instead of characters arcs being forgotten due to a character leaving they can get resolved properly.
Just imagine....
icy and book not being in iance makes sense. both in and out of universe it's been years since idfb and even in bfdia match and pencil did not respect book and icy so it's natural for book to want to split. also that would make 6/8 of their team just the alliance
also i think having pencil as a first boot was the best option in iance since it helped fuel arcs on the team (match-bubble), helped develop fanny (one of the several new characters) and pencil herself has already had years of screentime compared to the thirty or so minutes of all the newbies
all you're losing really is having pencil send lightning after people
tbh i like what they did with (formerly) freesmart on bfb even if some executions weren't the best (taco book)
i kinda agree and disagree because pencil getting out did help develop fanny but the match-bubble arc just didnt feel complete after match not being able to get a redemption arc
the match-bubble “arc” is barely even an arc tbh… match got eliminated just as she was starting to realise that what she did was wrong
Let’s be real, we were all rooting for the alliance until BFB.
the fact that people are starting to remember the freesmart and they are still in the classroom again.
man its almost like bfb is the worst season. like people say that "ohh it was so much better pre split" which. no. it wasnt. the writing was "lol random xd" and was chock full of character assassinations, the animation was jittery and hard to watch, its just a damn shame bc it had potential, as shown in tpot (which is still not as good as bfdi and bfdia but its still better)
shut uuuuuuup maaate, shut uuuuuuup.....
The writing was way better
when you have that big of a cast you’ll have to write off some characters and it’s not like they ruined a significant amount of the cast unlike post split and the humor was 10 times better than post split at least it still works when you rewatch it also the animation mixed with the background music made the season peak every episode was an absolute work of art that somehow slowly devolved into the cheap ahh post split style at least in tpot they found a way to make it look good just rewatch the show and you’ll see the difference
The writing was great, the animation I agree with but that's only for the first few episodes. Episodes in late pre split such as bfb 11, bfb 12, basically all of those up to bfb 16 are peak
@@cloudyfromtpotreal tf why do people hate on the early bfb animation it was amazing and I hated how it slowly devolved into the cheap slop that is the post split bfb
@@primodesmile634 post split bfb WAS cheap slop but I think tpot and late pre split bfb animation is more appealing than early pre split bfb
Think that if they continue idfb they should add more of a sort of fade that shows us how they like became there new personalities eg. Maybye everyone being mean to match and pencil making them despise more bubble being abused by somone and something like that to book qnd ice cube cause it would make more scense
Just imagine if the correct number was 2673 or something...
It was one number after 73....
I can see what you mean, but I think IDFB might have more opportunity to explain the sudden shift in BFB 1, maybe the IDFB season can show Match and Pencil slowly becoming more cruel overtime. If they decide to ever finish IDFB anyway.
I love how people say “Satomi shouldn’t have left the writing team” and “We want Satomi back” when she arguably ruined more original well-established characters than any other writer on the team
I love hypocrisy
She also talks on discord about Michael not liking her writing. Tbh some of her jokes that Micheal didn’t like were kinda funny but it’s kinda weird that everyone makes it seem like she was the best writer ever
@@AridMeerkat Yeah, that’s pretty odd, but she wrote BFB 13 and 14 which are considered some of the best episodes of BFB so I can see where they’re coming from
However, she also had some rumors that she hated Nickel so much that she put team BEEP UFE so many times to try to get him eliminated, but it failed
On top of her supposedly ruining Pin in TPOT 2
@@carlosmattessich3883 also she was the reason Tpot was being delayed
@@AridMeerkat Yes
However this obviously doesn't affect her quality as a person, I'm sure she's a wonderful human
@@carlosmattessich3883 yeah she does seem kinda nice
In BFDI and BFDIA Match Was Just A Jerk But In BFB She Was Halfway Of Becoming A Villain
Who's here after TPOT 11?
If JnJ ever do a another season after both idfb and tpot then I think Match would be nicer and try to make it up with bubble she genuinely felt bad for what she did but unfortunately the viewers voted her off smh
I loved Freesmart, sad to see it has changed. Also, 230.
That’s not free smart-
Pencil is the only true mean one, match was just following her. Bubble ruby and book are all just so wholesome
256 is the number!! 0:46
bfdia 5 was the peak of freesmart.
3:40 🤓👆🏻erm actually you missed Bfdia 6 and now we are at bfdia 12
It was made before BFDIA 6...
Erm we’re at BFDIA 16 now! 🤓☝️
Erm we’re actually at Bfdia 17 now 🤓☝️
I feel free smart got flanderized cause of match and pencils sarcasm to just rude. Also there are so much more characters in the bfb that they decide to lower screen time with free smart and focused on other characters but idk just my theory
NOOOO WHAT IS THIS PFP IT'S JUST A FAT SQUARE 😭😭😭😭
i think its major character change is a flaw for what bfb counts as the "aftermath" of ifdb but maybe it was good to an extent idk
From the winner of the first season to first eliminated. Pencil truly fell from grace.
winner of the first season?? pencil????
like, i assume you mean how she went the longest without a vote but she did NOT win bfdi
@@nd_4726 not bfdi. That was the second season. I'm talking about total firey island. Yknow... the first ever season?
@@PeytonianYT i mean, you couldve just like... said tfi?? when the average person thinks 'first season of bfdi' they think bfdi because the series in general is referred to as bfdi and it's like... the first animated season
@nd41206 I did it on purpose so people would ask and therefore boost my comment. It worked.
@@PeytonianYT ...okay? i mean.. it didn't. it really didn't work. a total of one person commented to ask you because you felt the need to want to correct everyone about it despite bfdi being universally considered the first season. like, oh wow! you consider tfi to be the first season! good for you! do you want a cookie? just. don't go trying to act as if tfi is ACTUALLY considered the first season because, as before stated, that is clearly not how jacknjellify thinks of it.
nice, the background music at the start is from adhesivewombat, love that channel
Im sorry but freesmart was never good
Just the fact that it’s leaders are match and pencil is hatable
If so glad bfdia came back and love the exitors in Tpot
with BFDIA getting picked up again it will probably explain how Pencil became so annoying
bubble: /creates alliance/
pencil: i am the so so so leader! B)
pencil used to be one of my favs :(
anyway but i mean the alliance suddenly becoming toxic kinda relates in real life, as my old nice friend group suddenly became toxic- and it happens to other people too, that’s just life.
BUT WHY FREESMART ALLIANCEEEEE
i totally agree. this was one of the best alliances in bfdi but it all went down
I also felt like the part where Pencil made Lightning zap people they didn’t like was way too dramatic and felt really weird for BFB’s tone, early BFB could’ve been done better but I think it got better at episode six.
my favorite character is pencil, seeing her just straight up being mean in bfb just annoys me, i wish that the person that changed pencil and match's personality realized what they were doing while bfb 1 was in production
They really pulled a reverse flower on pencil and match and it’s so annoying man.
Free smart imo was the best alliance and I hope they can return to their former glory the chemistry between their team members in Bfdia and idfb(can’t say to much about idfb cause only 1 episode but still).
Sure pencil and match were always controlling or egotistical sure book and ice cube were always a little bit disgruntled but bfb blew that out of proportion and also added the sting of bubble amplifying some of her worst traits.
I just hope free smart somehow gets reunited one day of match and pencil get out of the exit and when tpot ends
ive been waiting for freesmart being “So Horrible Oh Yikes Oh Geez Oh No😭‼️💔” to be actually shown because its treated like it was an awful experience for the members but like. is it gonna happen because freesmart still seems to be going great
Tbf,pencil didn't seem to care when icy got out and Immediately went on replacing her. I think it's building up,but slowly. The writers probably wants us to have freesmart being "healthy" and having fun together before things go downhill since there's a chance we will never see them like this again,or at least for a while.
Match and pencil demoting the person who CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA is why they got eliminated
An alliance more than or equal to four members will surely fall apart!
I get the book and icecube thing a bit as iances two losses would have almost definitely led to either match and another, or just the two other members of it being eliminated. (As match prior to bfb was always the only member of freesmart that wasn't loved by most.) But i agree that derailing a character because you don't like them is abhorent. Especially when you aren't an original creator and one of them(cary) still loves freesmart. (I believe he stated that match and tb were his favourites which is why he uses them for promotion so much). Its similar to chloe in miraculours. Where she was an amazing loved character, but one of the writers hated her so they stopped her redemption short and derailed her before removing her from the show.
Tbh I used to hated the new change in BFB 1 but I really don’t care anymore kind of glad that they were written the way they did, They we’re getting overrated not letting most of the BFDIA contestants (before the hiatus) have a chance? So they kind of opened a gate during BFB and plus it made it more interesting throughout BFB it’s just another phase during the arc of freesmart.
Their Alliance were my favourite and really only thing that I found entertaining. BFB was really good but man they just did Pencil and Match dirty, they’ve always been ‘bossy’ but it felt more like a joke (for the audience) or ironic (like ‘girlboss’ vibes).. BFB pencil was just plain rude and now she’s back for TPOT she’s also kind of.. reformed?? Still rude though. Can’t remember her being so violent just doesn’t sound like her, Pencil’s been more like carefree, don’t care sort of character (well except her alliance).
I am happy BFDIA is back and the pencil we see seems to be more aligned with BFDI’s (what I call true) pencil. 😂
I hated them in bfb 1 and bfb 8, but i actually enjoyed what they were doing with bubble and match apologizing, but match got voted off before anything else could happen 😭 Hopefully if theres a season 6, they are dealt with properly
kinda weird because after match apologized she didn't get redeemed and got out immediately but when book apologized she got redeemed and was safe from elimination in bfb 15. i wished match stayed ngl because the writers couldve done something with her and bubble maybe even with ice cube
i dunno why i say "bubble becomes overly sensitive outta nowhere" like that's kinda bubbles main trait is being sensitive, shes a flipn bubble lol. i think she was bein "overly sensitive" bc her friends where acting up too much for her to handel
Freesmart was ruined by someone naming their channel that
whoever was that writer, wanted to ruin freesmart for us, and did
i think it was satomi
Can we leave satomi alone it has been like 7 years
@@vuxo100k oh i think it was him too, cuz he got fired from the team for ruining bfdi
@@PillowFan1 yea now she just voice acts
Good Point: In BFDIA, Alliance in Free💜Smart Team. They are so awesome!
Pencil was such a hero
Match was maybe a judge
Ruby was always feelong after all her mistake.
Bubble was so good and kind.
Book is still wise and also being a caring person
Ice Cube was Book's best friend and glad that Pencil accepted her as a member of the Alliance.
Overall, Pencil, Match, Bubble, and Book are heroes! Ruby and Ice Cube are innocent and troublemaker but they are also heroes.
In BFB, things change. It sad that everything has. Pencil and Match became villains. Bubble becoming innocent and feeling guilty like Ruby who changed herself as hero. Vice Versa for Bubble and Ruby. For, Book and Ice Cube they look so horrifying over Pencil and Match being so villainous!
Quite disappointing for this Alliance to break up into pieces. So I do missed really Free💜Smart Team.
I just wish the old old BFDI airlines came back for the newer season but it seems like they make it a redemption because pencil and match did get better when they were inside of foreign teapot 11 so maybe the alliance could come back better than ever
of course pencil and match were always rude and pretty toxic but in bfb they just became mean
Yeah pencil and match got over the top rude, in BFDIA it was doable.
Free smart was owned by the team in bfdi squishy cherries Free smart became the most beloved and popular alliance in object show history now in VfB when pencil was eliminated first the alliance
Was traumatizing bubble which lead to the downfall of freesmart
They were trying to make an arc and the viewers took it away
The arc was very poorly written though
@@henrytoycollector7115 True
Pencil was in its peak in BFDIA, i hope in TPOT she dosent have that BFB-Behaviour yk (by observing in TPOT, she still has an BFB-kind behaviour) and i also hope Pencil wins in BFDIA, if not, then i hope Coiny or Book wins.
I loving the videos man you may not know me but I watch your content also number 84
Ilove how toxic this group is, its the one thing that makes this show less of a brain rot show 😭🙏
IDFB could not save, but BFDIA 6 came out of no where and bring them up a rank.
TFI: nothing really happend pencil and match became friends when they were on diffrent teams and nothing again until final 4 ice cube said that she was friends with bubble pencil and match pencil and bubble said obviously not and ice cube glued pencils leg beacuse that and pencils team lost bubble got eliminated then ice cube got eliminated too and pencil won season 0 aka total firey island (TFI)