What The Mental Health Industry Gets Wrong | Dogma Disrupted w/ Imam Tom Facchine

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
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    Mental health has become a widely discussed and emphasized subject, particularly in the last five years. While mental health services are a critical component to healthcare, the mental health industry operates on multiple underlying dogmas that are opposed to the Islamic worldview.
    Dr. Zohair Abdul Rahman joins Imam Tom Facchine to bring to light four key dogmas at play that both Muslims who seek access to these services and practitioners themselves should keep in mind when facing this paradigm.
    #ethics #mentalhealth #therapy #islam
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 59

  • @s.elh.3281
    @s.elh.3281 8 місяців тому +30

    Masha Allah, what an enlightening content. As a convert in the West, being a caregiver to my terminally ill parents, I can relate soo much to what was discussed with respect to pain "management" in the western medicine. If you agree to it, in the West they will drug you into unconsciousness when you are on your death bed and even before. This purely naturalistic view on the human being is truly cruel. As a convert I am so grateful for the knowledge and resources in Islam, I hope everyone in our ummah will realise what a blessing and treasure the gift of Islam is ..

    • @kausamsalam8543
      @kausamsalam8543 8 місяців тому

      May Allah bless your parents and you/your caregiving and love for your parents. 🤲🏿❤️

    • @azizaelmi825
      @azizaelmi825 7 місяців тому

      Ssssss ❤fe rdj Ty j Zak waa as Asad s ❤sq 😮

  • @Als1822
    @Als1822 9 місяців тому +22

    how abt a muslim therapist ? we need those. someone who has knowledge of both health science and Islam.
    I suffer from ptsd, extreme anxiety, and depression. My eman is good but people need help sometimes that have nothing to do with their religion

    • @zak992
      @zak992 9 місяців тому +6

      You are absolutely right, sometimes in addition to putting our trust in Allah, reading the Quran with understanding and prayer we may also need medication to address the chemical imbalances within our brain/body

    • @islandgirl.916.
      @islandgirl.916. 8 місяців тому +2

      EXACTLY same

    • @valerieayla4687
      @valerieayla4687 6 місяців тому

      There are a lot online! Just looking into a bit!

    • @commontouch1787
      @commontouch1787 4 місяці тому

      @@zak992 medication is not the solution, it’s a problem of meaning. Some people have messed up lives so they couldn’t carry enough good meaning to understand why it happened and how to move on normally.
      They should explore the influence of their two parents and peers unto themselves and all the crap they’ve internalized from the external world. Their potential is trapped in their misunderstanding of their situation

  • @user-ql1lf9kq9u
    @user-ql1lf9kq9u 8 місяців тому +11

    I have been suffering from mental health issues for a while and before converting and even after converting I felt I didn’t belong anywhere on Earth but getting more and even modest knowledge of Islam helped a lot for example thinking of Ibrahim Alayhi Assalam who was an Ummah by himself helped
    AlhamduliLah for the blessing of Islam

    • @farehab2771
      @farehab2771 8 місяців тому +1

      AND WHEN MY SERVANTS ASK YOU CONCERNING ME
      - INDEED I AM NEAR.
      2:786 🙏🏼🙏🏼
      Dua is a direct gift to us from Allah, always turn to Him & feel His protection & mercy on you no matter the hardship 🙏🏼🌺

    • @kanayaalam
      @kanayaalam Місяць тому +1

      May Allah make it easy for you. May Allah give you the righteous companion to keep you steadfast through life. May your heart & mind will always felt close to Allah, as you see Him. ❤

    • @user-ql1lf9kq9u
      @user-ql1lf9kq9u Місяць тому

      @@kanayaalam Allahumma Ameen ya Rab el3alamine May Allah grant you the same and more Ya Rabb 🤲🤲🤲

  • @lailaali8250
    @lailaali8250 8 місяців тому +8

    I'm a doctor from Nigeria and I 💯 agree with what Dr Zohair AbdulRahman said concerning the majority of cases we see in general practice especially amongst women

  • @hamidabheekoo8926
    @hamidabheekoo8926 4 місяці тому +1

    Mashallah very interesting discussion. This type of therapy ( "Islamic" Psychology) is already being practised at Khalil Centre and Rahmah Centre. Run by Dr Rania Awaad. Alhamdulillah.

  • @sakinahm3206
    @sakinahm3206 8 місяців тому +8

    So needed this. I felt like I was swept way too deep into the current mental health industry and realised that there needed to be active interventions from Muslim scholars to really encapture the wider scope of mental health. It really is portrayed from the statement correlation does not mean causation. May Allah grant us higher understanding of all beneficial ilms so that we redirect it to its Source. InsyaAllah ❤

  • @sakinahm3206
    @sakinahm3206 8 місяців тому +6

    I also realised that I have a tendency to utilise islam is therapy😢 i used to reason doing this act because the end goal seemed to be on a certain way i want to feel. A certain way i want to view myself, not how i want Allah to view and guide me through

  • @FeliciaCalifia
    @FeliciaCalifia 9 місяців тому +8

    So glad this and other mental topics are being addressed in our community

  • @astghferseb724
    @astghferseb724 9 місяців тому +24

    َ'' What led you into Hell Fire?
    They will say: 'We were not of those who prayed.'” (Qur'an, 74:42-43)
    🌹Don't forget your five daily prayers🌹

  • @priusa8113
    @priusa8113 8 місяців тому +2

    How can I find a licensed Muslim therapist ALSO well versed in Islam? I am in dire need. Jaz Khairan

  • @roybey685
    @roybey685 9 місяців тому +5

    Peace brothers , I'm glad you guys have tied mentally health to Islam ☪️ an how it can help people

  • @gwynjustice2575
    @gwynjustice2575 9 місяців тому +3

    It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Be moderate and adhere to moderation, for there is no one among you who will be saved by his deeds.” They said: “Not even you, O Messenger of Allah?” He said: “Not even me. Unless Allah encompasses me with mercy and grace from Him.”
    Being a muslim ee acknowledge both the spiritual and physical aspects of health. Well said.

  • @fatimamohammed9295
    @fatimamohammed9295 8 місяців тому +3

    AMAZING DISCOURSE ❤ 💯 Allah bless both of you, I felt present listening on and very excited too 🎉

  • @Mr1000IA
    @Mr1000IA 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this, jazakAllah Khair

  • @s3youtubevids156
    @s3youtubevids156 8 місяців тому +1

    From my stand point in General Practice ....all I can say is........💯%. Agree with everything Dr sahib has said. May Allah bless you both

  • @thestraightpath2909
    @thestraightpath2909 8 місяців тому +3

    I loved the end of the video particularly the end of it. I'm dealing with OCD (scrupulous) ie the waswassah. I have watched so many videos both secular and Islamic specialists on that field. Their pieces of advice have been helpful ( the ignoring of the thought, the exposure therapy,...). But with all that I'm still dealing with it. And it's getting worse by day. I never had a chance to consult a doctor. Cause we don't have that kind of doctor ( muslim and psychotherapist at a time) who can fully comprehend my problem. So I'm taking care of myself with dhikr and dua.... I wish yaqeen could organize remote consultations like on zoom or Skype to help people like me.

    • @commontouch1787
      @commontouch1787 4 місяці тому

      OCD is the same issue : a lack of meaning
      The meaning has to come from YOUR life, with the help of Allah you can understand your past, where you come from, why you have these symptoms (because OCD is a symptom not a disease) and finally move on and not be too concerned about the past or anxious about the future.
      Most of what is at work with OCD are complexes (dissociation of a part of ego consciousness when encountering a painful experience (especially with the mother, and father)), which distort reality and asks you to agree with it in order to survive.
      When you agree with it (for example you think « maybe I’m really inadequate…, I’m really bad, … ») consciously or unconsciously you have agreed and let the complex run a part of your consciousness and that’s why you’re stuck in a ideation with negative emotions etc…
      The reality is that you’re not defective or inadequate, you’re normal and okay and we all are. But your life experience may have made you think otherwise and the fact you couldn’t find meaning to get out of those painful experiences, means that you’re still dealing with it.
      Meaning is the most important, Islam can give you that but you also need to know yourself and explore your life, emotions. At the end of the road you’ll find meaning, vitality and healing
      Courage

    • @commontouch1787
      @commontouch1787 4 місяці тому

      The meaning and answers are not cognitive btw, being too cognitive is a trap and often what makes the OCD continue. The answers are in the deeper part of yourself, which feels emotions and behind these emotions there are instincts (7 basic instincts + meta-narrative (of your life experiences) instincts) which carry the meaning of why you’re in that state, and how to move on

    • @commontouch1787
      @commontouch1787 4 місяці тому

      People with OCD often are intelligent and have higher potential, but because of their life experience their innate potential (carried by instincts) has been trapped in a ideation of « why did all of this happen, why my life has been like that, « why did my mom do that to me » etc… » and they got stuck in that.
      All that energy put in thinking and OCD, is actually innate potential that we can deliver in real life adaptation, which involves relating (to yourself, to others) in a positive way

  • @saradigota7201
    @saradigota7201 9 місяців тому +5

    I once was só much in need of therapy in a stadium of my life where i was at a crossroads like a mental situation of Kanye and Britney in one person:me.
    But they never really helped, it made things worse. Im over it now but it was a big trauma upon my trauma. i hope Allah destroys whoever did me áll such injustice

    • @zak992
      @zak992 9 місяців тому +4

      I am sorry you have suffered so much, take one day at a time, the past can be full of sadness and the future full of worry, may Allah help you and protect you, believe it or not you are special to Him in His eyes, He created you its just that you dont see it due to the pain you have gone through

    • @saradigota7201
      @saradigota7201 6 місяців тому

      @@zak992 thank u so much for ur kind message. Bless u.

  • @shamsashahab7033
    @shamsashahab7033 8 місяців тому

    JazakMuAllah Kharin a very enlightening discussion .

  • @ykhan2891
    @ykhan2891 8 місяців тому +1

    Jazak'Allah for this very informative discussion, extremely enlightening, useful and helpful.

  • @richardnealbey1602
    @richardnealbey1602 9 місяців тому +3

    ❤❤❤ Thanks for this information .

  • @blueskies3845
    @blueskies3845 9 місяців тому +2

    Brilliant jazak Allah khair

  • @salmaferozali2110
    @salmaferozali2110 8 місяців тому

    Amazibg session. Thanks.

  • @pjt978
    @pjt978 9 місяців тому +1

    Salaam. Great talk 👌

  • @2024reminders
    @2024reminders 8 місяців тому +1

    EVERY point made is EXACTLY on POINT
    Indeed everything is a SIGN and it's all POINTING where they least expected (or should I say wanted) it to.

  • @SaSa-sd2ve
    @SaSa-sd2ve 8 місяців тому

    Jazakhallah Khairan

  • @astghferseb724
    @astghferseb724 9 місяців тому +2

    SubhanAllah
    Alhamdulillah
    La Ilaha Illa Allah
    Allahu Akbar🌹

  • @user-in4mz9go4d
    @user-in4mz9go4d 8 місяців тому

    May Allah bless you all with Khair fi Dunya Wal akhirah.

  • @yousseft.1771
    @yousseft.1771 8 місяців тому

    Allahoema bareek. Great topic and conversation. Is it possible to do a podcast about causes of and solutions for attachment disorder from an islamic point of view. Djazaka Lahoe gairan.

  • @Parween1985
    @Parween1985 9 місяців тому +3

    Life in the West full of confusion . Just stick to your Deen and obey Allah and his messenger Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم).

  • @FarhaKhan-rn4dm
    @FarhaKhan-rn4dm 8 місяців тому

    Interesting discourse!

  • @IamK.
    @IamK. 8 місяців тому +1

    Salaam Alaykum everyone, do you think listening to Affirmations islamically Ok?
    May Allah bless all believers ameen.

  • @f.y.6845
    @f.y.6845 7 місяців тому +1

    Interesting topic. It overlays with the new age 'philosophy' which is very popular nowadays (especially under young people). It uses tools such as manifestations, yoga, meditating, praying to an 'universe', healing the (generational) trauma's and chakra healing in order to heal your soul from all the (past) hurt so that you can have a healed life and a life that you've dreamed of. Can you do a talk on this subject?
    And I'm also very curious on your islamic take on this: In the west, practitioners use tools for generational healing to heal trauma's that's passed on to the childeren, with the idea that our forefathers and mothers never healed themselves, and thus passed it on to their children, leaving them also traumatised. To me it sounds, from a psychological viewpoint very logical, because when you're hurt, you hurt people as well. What is your islamic vieuw on this?

  • @mpramd
    @mpramd 9 місяців тому +2

    a test toward the tawakal itself :")

  • @astghferseb724
    @astghferseb724 9 місяців тому +2

    🛡️Want a shield from the hellfire?!🛡️
    🗣️Follow your prophet (pbuh)
    fast every Monday and Thursday

  • @richardnealbey1602
    @richardnealbey1602 9 місяців тому

    As Salaam alaykum .

  • @nikfatimahismail
    @nikfatimahismail 8 місяців тому

    Nice video loveit❤

  • @Journey-To-Eternity
    @Journey-To-Eternity 9 місяців тому +1

    💯

  • @FreePalestine7934
    @FreePalestine7934 7 місяців тому

    Please add Turkish in automatic translations, thank you 💐

  • @awatefm2043
    @awatefm2043 7 місяців тому

    👍

  • @Nafshadow
    @Nafshadow 8 місяців тому

    Al-Hamde li-Allah الحمد لله

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope8 8 місяців тому

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹

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    @usmanehsan5943 9 місяців тому

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  • @Maleeha1
    @Maleeha1 8 місяців тому

    The remark about aunties and uncles thinking everything is jinn possession is very bad adab Br Tom.
    Learn manners before Deen as the scholars would say!