The Last Crusade - Battle of Varna 1444 - Crusaders attempt to drive out the Ottomans from Europe
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📢 Narrated by David McCallion
📚 Big thanks to Dr.Byron Waldron and Srpske Bitke for working with me on this video.
🎼 Music:
Epidemic Sound
Filmstro
📚 Sources:
Norman Davies - God’s Playground, Vol. 1: The Origins to 1795
Pat Engel - The Realm of St Stephen: A History of Medieval Hungary, 895-1526
Colin Imber - The Crusade of Varna, 1443-1445 (Crusade Texts in Translation)
John Jefferson - The Holy Wars of King Wladislas and Sultan Murad: The Ottoman-Christian Conflict from 1438-1444
Samuel Astley Dunham - The History of Poland
Camile Muresanu - John Hunyadi: Defender of Christendom
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🚩 Got a big one for you today, the Battle of Varna 1444 AD. The episode is similar in scale and detail to the Battle of Ankara 1402, so if you enjoyed that one you'll like Varna. I covered all three phases of the battle that are usually not mentioned, which make this battle so massive.
The Crusade of Varna, which culminated in the Ottoman victory over a largely Hungarian force on November 10, 1444, effectively ended the European efforts to save Constantinople and enabled the Turkish conquest and expansion into the Balkans and towards Central Europe.
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Another Ottoman video🤣 I'm sure there will still be many videos on your beloved Ottomans topic! Your Eurocentric approach never ceases to impress 😂 Only European affairs matter! Bravo👏
Numbers are wrong
Not 44 minutes , better upload 400 hours long video ! People doesn't have something else except of watching your videos !
There's a theory that the military victory of the ottoman Turks at Varna in 1444 AD had opened the way to conquer the Great City of Constantinople itself, Nine years later in 1453 AD !
Pov: You're an Europa Universalis IV player.
No
Yes
The game starts just after this battle
Fun Fact: In Poland, we talk of a legend of Zawisza Czarny (Zawisza the Black), who was considered the greatest knight of Poland at the time. He was meant to meet his end at the battle of Varna.
Also, King Wladislas is known as Wladislaw of Varna. That nickname was given to him upon his death at the battle.
Zawisza died long before battle of Varna was fought.
@@themosticonicscenesinmovie8737 That is one of the theories. That is why i called it a legend. There are debates whether the guy even existed. I just stated what i was always told.
Thanks for the fun facts. I would have never known about these if the kind commenters had not mentioned them.
@@thegraybeards2568 the internet entertains and teaches
@@CrownHetman There's a theory that the military victory of the ottoman Turks at Varna in 1444 AD had opened the way to conquer the Great City of Constantinople itself, Nine years later in 1453 AD !
Ooh! Another Ottoman video. Definitely enjoy when you guys fill in the gaps in the Ottoman Empire's history, wish there was an Ottoman History playlist in chronological order.
Do you criticize or like it ? 😂
@@lothric_k can you read?
Over forty minutes of historymarche?! YES PLEASE! Love your work 🎉🎉🎉🎉
21:00 A mistake here. It was not Vlad III Dracula Tepeş (impaler) who aided the crusade but his father Vlad II Dracul. The narrator spelled the correct name, but the name and the symbolic portrait shown are wrong.
Yes!
@@paulbriot1404Yes, does it's his first mistake?
@@annuryilham5561What? 😂
@@FuhqEwetwice at least
@@daarom3472 What?
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
No dont talk about it because it wasnt the case. This video is pure BS.
1- There is always a scapegoat in history for any defeat. Usually the dead one since he cant talk for himself so he was conveniently chosen. We dont know whether Wladislaw was indeed carried away or it was a desperate last attempt to charge at Ottoman centre to turn the tide.
What we know is the battle didnt ensue in ''3 phrases'' in the last of which sultan retreated into some fucking camp or he completely awaited his reserve army until the 40.000 strong army was defeated thorougly.
2- It is almost impossible to determine the numbers in this battle but even European accounts dont give these numbers. Those that give 60.000 for Ottomans give 30-40.000 for crusaders while those that give 20.000 for crusaders give 40.000 for Ottomans and these are the European accounts.
3- We have almost no idea regarding how the battle ensued. Appearently Wladislaw charged at the centre of Ottoman army at some point and couldnt make it. He was blamed for the defeat but we cannot know whether he was indeed responsible or was chosen as a scapegoat and the outcome was already clear at that point and he charged as a desperate attempt.
It for certainly however didnt happen in 3 phrases. That is the biggest bullshit of this video. No account mentions that and it completely conflicts Ottoman doctrines or logic. Why the hell would Murad keep his elite 20.000 strong army by his side until the 40.000 strong Ottoman army is thoroughly defeated first. They didnt have that many kapikulu soldiers at the date and they would use them as reserve troops in all battles.
This was an extremely biased point of view of the defeated Europeans. That's not exactly how the actual battle went and nor was the numbers given on each side accurate.
@@matikhorasani3842 how so
@@frankzohoolihan2196 there were only European sources used, you could say it's a western channel so it's normal but it just feels distasteful. It's like when Turks make the empire grander than it was citing only Turkish/muslim sources. Doesn't feel objective in any way. Both sides will of course try to make their own accomplishments grander and their opponents' smaller. You should compare sources, make estimates and try to find the truth not whatever was done here. I usually like history marche too but this was just a big disappointment.
@@frankzohoolihan2196 this genuinely feels like a fairy tale retelling of the story.
Everyone knows the borders of 11/11/1444!
Europa Universalis IV is definitely a great game, it only took me 100+hours too learn lol😂
@@jackshannen809 You need 1000 hours to learn basics :D
@@DawidStarzykiewiczhonestly the best way to learn early on is to use cheats so you can experience other aspects of the game which would take hours normally. Helps you understand whats useful later on and what's not
🚩 Got a big one for you today, the Battle of Varna 1444 AD. The episode is similar in scale and detail to the Battle of Ankara 1402, so if you enjoyed that one you'll like Varna. I covered all three phases of the battle that are usually not mentioned, which make this battle so massive.
The Crusade of Varna, which culminated in the Ottoman victory over a largely Hungarian force on November 10, 1444, effectively ended the European efforts to save Constantinople and enabled the Turkish conquest and expansion into the Balkans and towards Central Europe.
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@@Iiiiiiiiiiiic123الحمدلله مش لوحدى اللى بتابع المحتوى ده
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Murad II , who twice abdicated , was the most engaging character among all the sultans , a great warrior but also a great lover of the arts and philosophy .
Murad's seem to be the most competent group of Ottomans :D Murad I, Murad II, Murad IV all top elite
Yeah I can't believe I'm 42 and am just learning about these great men /leaders
@@nenenindonu we will all pretend Murad III never existed😂
@@alaa6532 It's said that he had 130 children, does this make him a competent Murad ? Idk
And I'm sure a great lover of children like his prophet.
The foolish charge the Polish king did at the end of the battle was a literal turning point in history! Imagine what could have been if he didn't charge
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Turkish historians declare that Murad II . was “ a just and valiant prince , of a great soul , patient of labors , learned , merciful , religious , charitable , a good sovereign , and a great general . ”
Christian writers also accord to him great abilities , and greater freedom from vice and passion than most of the rulers of that age . He was eighteen years of age when he ascended the throne in 1421 .
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so abducting children and force them to fight for you makes you a great soul? Interesting.
Adam resmen papanın bile oha çüş diyeceği kadar yanlı bir şekilde yapmış videoyu. Osmanlılar toplam 60.000 haçlılar 23.000'di. Haçlılar yine de yendiler ama ah işte Wladislaw toy çocuktu gaza geldi o yüzden kaybettik'e bağlamış resmen.
Oh yes I'll listen to Turkish historians and their institutionalized misinformation. Turkish Historians can't even admit they committed the Armenian genocide in the 1900s.
Hungarien propaganda 😂😂
I'm sorry about the death of the Polish king, if he hadn't gotten excited at the time of the attack, perhaps the world would be very different today.
His death resulted in an Interregnum that united Poland and Lithuania into one nation.
But the Turks fought bravely and received their reward.
Hugs from Brazil, and thanks for the video!
I am pretty sure even if polish king didn’t do so the navy from Constantinople would have taken more than 2 days to embark on Verna till then it would have been hard to supply the army with food for army and horses plus an ottoman assault with a discovery of a flank on right between beach and wagons would have been charged
@@PedroRaccoonHQ If he didn't charge, he wouldn't have been killed, wouldn't have forced his knights to retreat, along many other men. Not only there would have been way more soldiers the next day ready to fight for the Ottomans, but morale would've been way higher, with the king alive.
o que vc ta fazendo aqui cara ???
@@itamarmoreira5161 amo história:D
This video is biased. The size of crusaders were much more than Ottomans cuz the ottoman anatolian contingents were blocked from entering balkans
The king trying to Solo another King and getting killed is kinda funny. Like what was his escape plan?
This is not how the events ensued, thats why it looks so stupid. Watch king and generals video on this battle. This channel made up a pure fantasy video.
@@arda213 It doesnt matter, we couldnt know all truth, what's was ocurring in that day
@@arda213funny how you're implying that Kings and Generals aren't making things up while you can clearly see that just by looking at their pro-ukrainian bias lol
One shouldn't expect less from Mehmed the Conqueror's father. Murad II was a bane of Crusaders and immortalized his name up there with kinsmen Baybars and Nuraddin Zengi
The first big Turkish defeats in the Balkans began during the reign of Murat II. Murat II was written as a fair and merciful ruler, but I do not think Murat 2 was very successful militarily. Moreover, the Crusaders lost the Battle of Varna only because of the imprudent attack of the young Hungarian King. I think that Mehmet the Conqueror's active personality emerged as a reaction to his father, Murat II. Murat II wasn't as powerful ruler as we thought.
Adam resmen papanın bile oha çüş diyeceği kadar yanlı bir şekilde yapmış videoyu. Osmanlılar toplam 60.000 haçlılar 23.000'di. Haçlılar yine de yendiler ama ah işte Wladislaw toy çocuktu gaza geldi o yüzden kaybettik'e bağlamış resmen.
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Dont take this dumbass video seriously. The resources on the battle of Varna are very fucking scarce. This video exceeds even the Christian telling of how the battle took place in propaganda. There is no account that claims it was 60.000 vs 23.000 or the battle was in three stages and christians actually defeated the Ottoman army.
Even the account regarding ''Christians were doing fine until Wladislaw charged and died'' is a subject of debate, we dont know if it was a feigned retreat by the Ottomans, a very typical tactic of Asian armies.
@@Asterix958That king came from the Polish royal house and was never Hungarian! Obelix became wiser because he kept quiet! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hungarien propaganda 😂😂
They were so close, if Wladyslaw listened to Hunyadi, the battle could have been won. Great video, I am looking for more.
Well, if only, right?
Yes. In any case, all European defeat depends on either cloudy weather or various misfortunes. It certainly cannot be a result of the Turks' successful implementation of their tactics and strength!!!
@@AnatolianHittite nobody here said that, on the contrary, to be fair the Genoese did help the Turks in that particular situation by ferrying their troops. It is reasonable to assume that things would have turned out very differently, had they not.
In a fight it will always comes down to who won the war
It also didn’t help that various groups like the Genoese betrayed Europe for the Ottomans. Ironic considering they themselves would later lose everything they had in the East to the Ottomans later on.
The Battle of Varna was the Manzikert of the Balkans; spontaneous event started by the enemy, cemented Turkish presence in Thrace as Manzikert did for Anatolia, and obviously a legendary victory
It was a mix of Manzikert's geopolitical consequences and the battlefield results of Keresztes in 1596. The Crusaders almost had a small victory in the course of the battle during this Crusade (depending on whether John Hunyadi was able to persuade the king not to chase after the Ottomans and reconsider their poor tactical position so that the Crusaders could preserve their remaining manpower and possibly leave the battlefield), but the position that the Polish King put them in ended any hopes of salvaging the campaign akin to Romanov IV's legacy for Byzantium.
Władysław III's aggressiveness and his portion of the Crusader force also made the same wrong decision that Maximilian III of Austria made when his troops got too overconfident in attacking the Sultan's camp when the Ottoman leader was able to bring victory from the jaws of defeat.
Christian monarchs have overestimated their Persian counterparts' military capacities and influence for centuries. Their biggest Achilles heel was maintaining cohesive military control over their armies when overconfidence & glory override any common sense of military awareness.
@@SolidAvenger1290 This depiction of the battle is too Eurocentric, sounds like you're licking your wounds
@@Tyrach.Especially the part with "The Crusaders almost won the battle" no, no they didn't 😅
@@nenenindonu In truth, they had a few small victories against the Ottomans on the battlefield; however, to your tactical point, the Sultan still retained some fresh and best troops to guard the camp to where the opposing enemy of the Ottomans made a very tactical error. Which was very smart and akin to what other great sultans have done in history. The battle was already moot for the Christians in a compromised position as time progressed.
Like at Manzikert, Keresaztes, and now Varna, all three Christian leaders (Byzantine Emperor Romanos IV', Maximilian, and Władysław III) greatly underestimated the capacities/tactics of their opposing army's troops, including the respect & more significant influence of their respected leader/Sultan to inspire the men to fight longer in battle.
In all three scenarios from the onset, the Christians were more or less outnumbered yet saw glimpses of victory, but human hubris would turn its ugly head again as we would see both Romanovs IV & Władysław III for glory charge their troops into an trap that would see the whole decimation of their armies. Maximillian was lucky that his defeat at Keresaztes didn't reach the high levels of his contemporaries. However, the lack of control over others was the biggest Achilles heel for many Christian monarchs for centuries in many crusades.
Note-HistoryMarche, based on flawed secondary sources, forgot a few critical details about Alparslan in their video about Manzikert months ago. They received comments stating that the battle was viewed from a Eurocentric POV, which I highly agree wasn't great overall.
To conclude, I misspoke about the Crusaders "almost" winning. I was trying to present potential alternative observations had things gone differently. However, the Ottomans still had the upper hand in the overall position, given how compromised the Crusaders were at Varna.
Had Władysław II not charged the Ottoman camp, and the Crusaders reconsidered their position after temporarily beating back the Sultan's army, the best option would have been to pull out and evade the Ottomans to fight another day.
@@nenenindonu, if it makes you feel better, I misspoke and have already corrected that.
Note to Tyrach-That is a respectable viewpoint overall & I will respect that. To be honest, I didn't particularly appreciate either that HM made eurocentric errors or missed Persian facts on their Manzikert video about Alp Arslan seven months ago. Faulty secondary sources depicted the Persian side, which many called out in the comment section over time.
The point was trying to make was that all three battles highlighted the tale of human hubris for Christendom's leaders when things were truly on the line, and the brilliance of Persian leaders is showcased to everyone on the battlefield. Like many Christian leaders, their Achilles heel was the coordination & control of their troops and their overconfidence in battle for personal glory.
technically the last crusade was the one launched by portugal on morocco and ended by total defeat of portugal that saw them losing their super power status after that and being relegated to a second rate power
Technically, Morrocco is not in Europe, as the tittle of the video was NOT the last crusade but the last crusade to drive the devils from Europe, not Africa.
@@davidp7178 i agree , this one was last crusade in europe yes .
@@davidp7178 *The roman empire included africa, if that is the foundation of european civilization, it's logical to forget this bullshit about africa and europe and understand that the map was more like "Catholics" and "Muslims", Europe was more like "Everything Catholic" than any concept of geography, since scandinavia or britain are not in the same region as, say, italy**
@@GAarcherThis is true. There was no sense of unity based on the shared continent back then, that's more of a modern development. It was all about religion, and Europeans would routinely massacre each other over religion (northern crusades, thirty years war). Europeans of different ethnicities have never unified on the basis of race or geography, only culture and religion.
@@davidp7178 oh so we are the devils now huh ?
Wow. That was mesmerizing. Great video mate, you had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. What it must have been like to see both armies fully formed up waiting to maul each other... We can only shudder and imagine. May all the fallen Rest in Peace.
It constantly amazes me how often history turns on a knife edge!
Incredible documentary, thank you!
Didn’t see yall get 1 million subs, congratulations!
oh wow
I watched you from the very beginning of the channel and every video I saw I thought you can't get better, but every time you exceeded my expectations
Really liked the new use of 3d models for some of the scenes, allways love the improving quality of the animations and production
Yes!!! Finally a video about this!
Very informative and entertaining. Really love your long format, incredibly detailed videos❤️❤️❤️
Amazing video and an even better effort at it,you truly are making masterpieces everytime you upload,love and peace from Belgrade.
Thank you for more on the Crusades my favorite topic
Thanks for video. I really enjoyed this one
You enjoyed diarrhea of a bigot christian that still feels butthurt over a 600 year old battle?
I'm a simple man; I see a HistoryMarche video, I play it immediately. Thanks for all you do!
Let me provide information about the impaled head mentioned in the video, which deeply saddened the narrator. The Turks had signed a ten-year peace treaty with the Crusaders. The agreement was in favor of the Crusaders. During the treaty, the Turks swore on the Quran, and the Crusaders on the Bible, that they would remain faithful to the agreement. Subsequently, Sultan Murad, trusting this agreement, abdicated the throne and was succeeded by his 12-year-old son, Mehmet II. The Pope saw this as an opportunity and convinced Wladislas and other Christians that the promise made to the Turks had no value.
When it was heard that the Crusader army was preparing for war, the young Sultan Mehmet II wrote a letter to his father, saying, "If you are the Sultan, you should lead your army and state at such a time. If I am the Sultan, I order you to come and lead the army." Sultan Murad, in response to this call, took command of the army.
Before the battle, the Turkish army planted two spears in the ground. The first spear had the agreement document attached to it. The second spear was empty. The head of Wladislas, who broke his promise, would be placed on this empty spear. And so, the empty spear served its purpose. The Crusaders, who had previously broken their promises, were punished once again for this reason. Turks want even their enemies to be honorable!
Thank you for this wonderful bit of extra information!
The catholic promises is meaningless. They are people without honor.
Eh… Idk, the Turks and Muslims in general broke promises as well. Neither side’s better than the other on that count.
Though, screw Jizya and all of that other tyrannical stuff.
He would be avenged at belgrade by Hunyadi
HistoryMarche the mvp!
Commenting and sharing the video for the algorithm 😊
Please consider covering the battle of Molodi 1572 someday. It is not very famous even here in Russia, although it's impact was huge. In 1571 crimean tatars burned down Moscow. But after this battle they were no longer a threat to Russia and Poland-Lithuania. The events of battle itself were epic and caused the huge tatar-ottoman force to be completely destroyed
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Pride of the king led to his death. They probably should have rested and waited instead of pressing their luck after a long day of battles.
Wonderful content on this channel. Thank you.
good job man , keep it up. we want more frequent videos.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your kind support! Much appreciated.
Love your videos. Thank you.
Thank you for your hard work, History Marche. That was highly entertaining and informative!
Great content !
Love the videos
In total, I count 120 Ottoman squares against 54 Crusader squares. What is this???
Great Video ❤
Great channel 👏
Please next Hannibal part 20 😢
Another great vid
Very well done as always. Adults and kids can learn from your research.
Epic history storytelling brother !
Hell of a battle. Good video.
Such quality content that I even don’t skip the sponsor section 😂
This story & battle always gets me going..❤
Thanks for the video
hi, congratulations for the video, a question: what software do you use to manage the graphic part of the territories and animations? 😊
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When Hunyadi died of the plague, he had just won a mighty battle against the Ottoman Empire. This was the victory in Nándorfehérvár (Belgrade). It would be nice to present that event here on the channel! :)
Letz goooo new videoooo
sources very reliable !!
much better than the other channels
Interesting timing. Just as KnG was about the release their new Varna Crusade video for their series.
Great video thanks for the upload hit that like button
Sorry but the whole battle sounds like a fairy tale to me !! Where did you took it from HistoryMarche?
Hungarien propaganda 😂😂
Wladyslaw perfectly fits the description of my ranked teamates
Nice video !
Those saxons were nuts.
There's a theory that the military victory of the ottoman Turks at Varna in 1444 AD had opened the way to conquer the Great City of Constantinople itself, Nine years later in 1453 AD !
Good video
Thanks
Proud of being a muslim turk 💪🦾
Alhamdulillah
Who told you that only Turk fight in the army of Ottomans
@@user-vd1kz5dg5c Who fought, the Kenyans ?
Constantinople was really just a speed bump. How the crusaders managed to screw up even at Varna.
this should be a movie omg
he was also young and brave, such is the law of youth
Absolutely amazing naration.
I love how murad didnt leave the battlefield and went home even after getting severe attacks twice...... He was there, waiting for his chance to shine...
Nice long video
Now we need a detailed video about Skanderbeg
What source you have details for this clip? I aware of different scenario. Would be interesting to read such story side in other sources...
Source: Trust Me, Bro 😅
@@user-xj6sk8cx9cthe sources are literally in the description
Not a single Turkish source. History written by the enemy isn't much history...
Something I never understood very well: hearing of all the battles from the Ottoman Empire, I always get a feeling that they could easily afford to suffer hundreds of thousands of killed soldiers each year, and basically shrug it off, while half of Europe combined could field 1/50th of their numbers. How was this possible?
The Ottomans are fighting at home, where they can call up large numbers of levies and garrison forces to bulk out their numbers, while the crusader forces to a large extent consist of volunteers who are motivated enough to journey across half the continent to participate (and have the means to be able to afford doing so), in an age where crusading as a movement was already on the wane anyway.
Also note that the numbers given for these battles are stunningly, staggeringly unreliable. Taking the crusade of Nicopolis for example, a contemporary source says some 16000 crusaders and 200K Ottomans, while a contemporary Ottoman source says 60K Ottomans and 130K crusaders. Some of those numbers are clearly absurd and you'll notice the blatant bias that the side that is writing is claiming their side heroically faced down a gazillion foes.
John Hunyadi (Hunyadi János) was the father of Matthias Corvinus aka Hunyadi Mátyás one of, if not the most famous hungarian king, founder of the black army of hungary, who would later besiege Vienna, taking the city and most of upper Austria, dying there 5 years later.
Here's one for the algorithm! 🍻
Lesson: Pride goeth before a fall. The battle was won, but without the clear victory, the fame wouldn't be the King's. Oh well...
Good series to watch as usual 🗡
This Battle and the Battle of Cunaxa in 401 BC have got to be the Greatest WTF Just Happened moments in all of Military History.
There are so many different versions of this battle
that was like thriller movie! however would be nice to have a bit of info about historical sources as well
every battle Europeans lost was like this same story. They get exited or they go for Gold 🥇 before battles are won.
More like Europeans have excuses for every battle they lost.
21:02 That was putting it midly. Vlad basicly say that Murad bring more follower for hunting games than Wladyslaw army 😂
I love history
Listening to this at midnight walking my dog and the pizza guy goes I love that channel
And thus, the startdate for Europa universalis 4 was decided
I really like this guy's narration alongside Devon from K&G
Best work even more then a Hollywood movie.
Excellent video
claiming video
informative video
Finally some John Hunyadi content
Crusaders stole the defeat from the jaws of victory.
The moment that Europe realized that the ottomans were there to stay. Suggestion: please cover the conquest lf Granada by the catholic monarchs!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nikopolis had proved that already. They just couldn't see it at the time.
For a second i thought it's the continuing of kings and general coverage of of the crusade
Absolutely loved it! I urge you to make more videos on these types of large battles. the battle of ankara now stands to be my all time favorite. lets top that!
You know shit is serious when the infamous guy warns you 21:01 Dracula the king of vampires 😂
I love the videos! But I hope the 3d 'scenes' don't become a regular thing - keep to your strength, animated 2d maps and tactics!
Amazing channel
Your numbers are so biased. Two to one? You didn't even use a Turkish source
Dude even European sources didnt claim 60k vs 23k. The ones that claim Ottomans were 60k also say Europeans were 30-40k and the ones that claim Europeans were 20k say Ottomans were 40k in total.
He says crusaders first defeated a 40k army with their 23k, then sultan unleashed his 20k private army (in 1444 there werent that many kapikulu to begin with) which crusaders also defeated but only then the silly Wladislaw got himself into his youth energy a bit and caused a domino effect.
@@arda213 Ne yazdığımı anladın mı?
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Senin dediğini destekleyen nitelikte bir şey yazdım. Sana katıldım yani, sen yanlış anladın.
@@arda213 Bu oe nin tüm videoları böyle. Kendisiyle çelişiyor s2k. Güya Niğbolu savaşında iki tarafta 20 bin kişiydi. Yine kendisinin yaptığı Ankara savaşı videosuna Osmanlının 60 bin askeri vardı. Yıldırım 6 senede 40 bin askeri ağaçtan mı topladı? Kings and Generals kanalı daha objektif bu oe ye nazaran
Sakın beyler kendinizi yemeyin, aynısını diyorsunus tek başka dil