UCF should be in contenders, Harvey is an absolute beast they got some good wr talent and KJ Jefferson is a definite upgrade over Plumlee, their schedule is also relatively easy they get Arizona and Utah at home and play Florida at the swamp as their most difficult games and I think they could win any of those, UCF is definitely better than TCU Colorado and WVU
@@gamerd8709 I mean Arizona most to Mississippi state last year and Utah lost to Oregon State, UCF is at least on the same level as them if not better, I also didn’t say they would beat them but I think they absolutely could, UCF is a top 5 offense in the B12 look at Oklahoma State last year UCF beat them by 42 and they made the championship game
my guy, kansas state is a favorite.. them or utah will win it is this year. leaning towards utah winning the conference, that defense is nasty and they will be a force.
Vegas has: KST and Utah at 9.5 Wins Kansas at 8.5 wins Then a mass glut of 7.5 win teams: Zona, ISU, Tech, OSU, TCU, UCF Then the bottom half: WVA at 6.5 Baylor, Colorado, Cincy at 5.5 Houston, BYU, ASU bring up rear at 4.5
Vegas odds are not accurate, his guess is as good or bad as anybody . Utah has the easiest schedule, so maybe ,Okl st bowl gms 18 straight Cowboys, but big 12 Runs thru. Morgantown that's my guess ,Red Raiders are in the hunt . His year is going to be awesome 9 different tms could win it but as of right now we are all 0-0 tied Support your teams , And let's get it on .
Missed the boat with UCF entirely. Nothing but focus on the offense. That's not where the issues are. Offense will be just fine (call equivalent to last year - likely a bit better). Last year was a defensive flop: LB's where toasted. Focus should be on the defensive changes to evaluate 2024 potential. Ex. Drop the PPG per game by 3-4 and UCF is a 9-10 win team in 23. Same in 2024. Evaluating 2024 should be solely on D for the UCF team.
*Pac 12 last years is better that the Big 12 this year. Colorado was thrown in a lava pit last year. They will do just fine this year. Over 500 is what I see coming from them.*
Solid bet there, OK St is a little hard to buy considering they were really up and down last year, could easily be more of the same or go one way or the other
Vegas said OSU would have 7 wins last year and they got 10. They return everyone including Ollie and have a veteran team that's been in 2 of the last 3 conference championships. This is a good team.
They literally return almost every single starter from last year (over 20), recruited better than they have in over a decade, and pulled the massive gaps from last year out of the portal with solid starters from other P4 schools. No way they don't make it to the B12 title game and win at least 1 playoff game.
Stop... UCF has been all hype since 2018. All talk and mid results. Every year its the same story. Las year they finished 3-6 in conference and Lost to KU with a back up QB by 30. You can make an argument that "You're telling me there's a chance" is generous.
@@RCJH2022 45-3 thats all i gotta say and you acting like we didnt play with a BAck up QB the first games of conference lmao abd he wasnt 100% when he came back and still almost beat oklahoma at home stfu and do some research before talking
@@Blkarican And KU played with a back up QB for over half the season had had their 3rd string in vs KSU and TTU. They didn't shit the bed like UCF. Seriously JRP was probably the single most overrated player in College football besides Dillon Gabriel. Almost beat OU... CLAP CLAP. He also lost to WVU with Three pics and To TTU with a 1 TD 1 INT game. Now he's not even there and you will take another step back. UCF is an OK team, but certainly not a Contender.
@@RCJH2022 all you do is talk where are the facts at most pics John three were passes the WR tipped up literally just unlucky and you acting like West Virginia isn’t a good team ??? Like I’m done with the talking I’ll just let the season ahead talk for itself we’ve been counted out a lot I’m just gonna let the season talk for itself
@@Blkarican LOL Yeah, kind of like last season spoke for itself. 6-7 that's a losing football team. That's FACTS 🤡 You just don't like it. I guess Georgia Tech was a real powerhouse in that Bowl Game. 17 points.... Impressive.
9:40 Utah lost to Ohio State and Penn State in two consecutive Rose Bowls. Rising has won the PAC-12 championship by beating USC. The problem if Utah wins the Big 12 is that the Big Ten is the Utes' Achilles heel. Both OSU and PSU will be in the 12-team playoff.
Cam Rising was knocked out of both of those games against Ohio State and Penn State. I don't think those two games says anything regarding what is or isn't an Achilles heel, other than that losing a starting QB makes a huge difference. If Cam stays healthy all season, Utah is in the playoff and will make some noise.
I'm certainly not a Colorado fan, but making the jump from the loaded Pac 12 to a not so loaded Big 12....I could see them being "Contenders" assuming they got their O-line fixed.
This is hilarious. "Loaded Pac 12" C'mon man. 😂😂 Arizona took 3rd in that league and CUs biggest win of the season was vs a rebuilding TCU team that finished 10th in the big12. The pac12 was definitely not "Loaded" and there is simply NO WAY Colorado can be called "Contenders". Baylor, TT, and Cincinnati are the only games they have a shot to be favorites in. If CU loses to Baylor Prime will officially be on the hot seat.
The average Big12 > average Pac12 in nearly every metric (especially head to head OOC and bowls). Colorado will sit with 7-8 wins but miss the title game.
Wow. You are a great predicter.
Finally, someone shows Oklahoma State some respect! Go Pokes 🤠
I think they’re going to be special this year
Haha
i actually agree on ok state, they got the best rb for sure in ollie
Look At Tech schedule for 2024. Should be 8-4 or 9-3 and inthe contender category
UCF should be in contenders, Harvey is an absolute beast they got some good wr talent and KJ Jefferson is a definite upgrade over Plumlee, their schedule is also relatively easy they get Arizona and Utah at home and play Florida at the swamp as their most difficult games and I think they could win any of those, UCF is definitely better than TCU Colorado and WVU
Fair points, you could be on to something there
they lose to arizona and utah my dude
@@gamerd8709 I mean Arizona most to Mississippi state last year and Utah lost to Oregon State, UCF is at least on the same level as them if not better, I also didn’t say they would beat them but I think they absolutely could, UCF is a top 5 offense in the B12 look at Oklahoma State last year UCF beat them by 42 and they made the championship game
my guy, kansas state is a favorite.. them or utah will win it is this year.
leaning towards utah winning the conference, that defense is nasty and they will be a force.
Vegas has:
KST and Utah at 9.5 Wins
Kansas at 8.5 wins
Then a mass glut of 7.5 win teams:
Zona, ISU, Tech, OSU, TCU, UCF
Then the bottom half:
WVA at 6.5
Baylor, Colorado, Cincy at 5.5
Houston, BYU, ASU bring up rear at 4.5
Should be pretty competitive, pretty close #s
@@AyeGeeYTI try to be realistic and unbiased but 6.5 for wvu is straight disrespectful to me
@@Nick-s5qour schedule is not the easiest
Vegas odds are not accurate, his guess is as good or bad as anybody . Utah has the easiest schedule, so maybe ,Okl st bowl gms 18 straight Cowboys, but big 12 Runs thru. Morgantown that's my guess ,Red Raiders are in the hunt . His year is going to be awesome 9 different tms could win it but as of right now we are all 0-0 tied
Support your teams ,
And let's get it on .
Vegas had OSU at 6.5 wins last year and I made a whole lot of money. That’s what Gundy does.
Missed the boat with UCF entirely. Nothing but focus on the offense. That's not where the issues are. Offense will be just fine (call equivalent to last year - likely a bit better). Last year was a defensive flop: LB's where toasted. Focus should be on the defensive changes to evaluate 2024 potential. Ex. Drop the PPG per game by 3-4 and UCF is a 9-10 win team in 23. Same in 2024. Evaluating 2024 should be solely on D for the UCF team.
*Pac 12 last years is better that the Big 12 this year. Colorado was thrown in a lava pit last year. They will do just fine this year. Over 500 is what I see coming from them.*
U doin this off pure hate n guessing no research
I’m just not buying the Okie state hype. Vegas says Utah and KSU, and I tend to agree.
Solid bet there, OK St is a little hard to buy considering they were really up and down last year, could easily be more of the same or go one way or the other
O state running game is goin to keep Thn goin
As long as Gundy is at Oklahoma state I wouldn’t doubt them
Vegas said OSU would have 7 wins last year and they got 10. They return everyone including Ollie and have a veteran team that's been in 2 of the last 3 conference championships. This is a good team.
Once o saw u put Kansas st in contenders I already knew u would put ok st In Favorites they will not do as good as last year
Based on what? They return everyone
They literally return almost every single starter from last year (over 20), recruited better than they have in over a decade, and pulled the massive gaps from last year out of the portal with solid starters from other P4 schools. No way they don't make it to the B12 title game and win at least 1 playoff game.
UCF is a dark horse and are at the bottom of contenders. You’re insane
Stop... UCF has been all hype since 2018. All talk and mid results. Every year its the same story. Las year they finished 3-6 in conference and Lost to KU with a back up QB by 30. You can make an argument that "You're telling me there's a chance" is generous.
@@RCJH2022 45-3 thats all i gotta say and you acting like we didnt play with a BAck up QB the first games of conference lmao abd he wasnt 100% when he came back and still almost beat oklahoma at home stfu and do some research before talking
@@Blkarican And KU played with a back up QB for over half the season had had their 3rd string in vs KSU and TTU. They didn't shit the bed like UCF. Seriously JRP was probably the single most overrated player in College football besides Dillon Gabriel. Almost beat OU... CLAP CLAP. He also lost to WVU with Three pics and To TTU with a 1 TD 1 INT game. Now he's not even there and you will take another step back. UCF is an OK team, but certainly not a Contender.
@@RCJH2022 all you do is talk where are the facts at most pics John three were passes the WR tipped up literally just unlucky and you acting like West Virginia isn’t a good team ??? Like I’m done with the talking I’ll just let the season ahead talk for itself we’ve been counted out a lot I’m just gonna let the season talk for itself
@@Blkarican LOL Yeah, kind of like last season spoke for itself. 6-7 that's a losing football team. That's FACTS 🤡 You just don't like it. I guess Georgia Tech was a real powerhouse in that Bowl Game. 17 points.... Impressive.
9:40 Utah lost to Ohio State and Penn State in two consecutive Rose Bowls. Rising has won the PAC-12 championship by beating USC. The problem if Utah wins the Big 12 is that the Big Ten is the Utes' Achilles heel. Both OSU and PSU will be in the 12-team playoff.
Agreed, as of right now I think they’ll both make it
Cam Rising was knocked out of both of those games against Ohio State and Penn State. I don't think those two games says anything regarding what is or isn't an Achilles heel, other than that losing a starting QB makes a huge difference. If Cam stays healthy all season, Utah is in the playoff and will make some noise.
Colorado is about 2 tiers too high :P
I'm certainly not a Colorado fan, but making the jump from the loaded Pac 12 to a not so loaded Big 12....I could see them being "Contenders" assuming they got their O-line fixed.
Very true, if they can get the O line help they can most likely compete with anyone in the big 12 talent wise
Yes they can
This is hilarious. "Loaded Pac 12" C'mon man. 😂😂 Arizona took 3rd in that league and CUs biggest win of the season was vs a rebuilding TCU team that finished 10th in the big12. The pac12 was definitely not "Loaded" and there is simply NO WAY Colorado can be called "Contenders". Baylor, TT, and Cincinnati are the only games they have a shot to be favorites in. If CU loses to Baylor Prime will officially be on the hot seat.
@@RCJH2022 there was also Washington and Oregon who were constantly in the top 5-10 all
Year
The average Big12 > average Pac12 in nearly every metric (especially head to head OOC and bowls). Colorado will sit with 7-8 wins but miss the title game.
Wvu way overrated
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