I had an Anglican rosary custom made several years ago back before I came to Holy Orthodoxy. After listening to this history, which I had previously unknown, I began praying the Paternoster on these beads, and saying "most holy Theotokos, save us" on the gaude beads. It has already helped me immensely in my struggles through early drug withdrawals. I never knew what power the Our Father had. I guess I should have figured.
I'm a medieval reenactor, I reenact a franciscan and a benedictine friar from around 1410s to be precise, and your videos helped me to understand a lot of things and learn A LOT of new things! I found your channel thanks to the video about confession, and now I'm here, learning more about my own humble paternoster with wooden beads. Thank you SO MUCH for your work!
Thank you for the history of these. As a Catholic I definitely appreciate the “Dominican” rosary and have plenty of them but I think I might have to make myself a Paternoster. I’m in a very Catholic/Orthodox friendly part of the US but I like the idea of a pretty incognito prayer aide that isn’t immediately recognizable as a Catholic rosary or an Eastern chotki.
People are looking more to spiritual practice and meditation to combat the zietgeist and tumult of the world and this is one way to meditate on the gospel and calm the mind, they are very astetical and to help quieten the mind and soul ...use them in many ways and make youre own formula of prayer !
Many thanks for your edifying videos. I have a question: do the Western Rite Orthodox practice the Jesus prayer? I am Eastern Orthodox, and it is central to my prayer life. Did our Anglo-Saxon forbearers know about it? I’ve never heard it mentioned in any of their “lives” or writings.
No, the Jesus Prayer in hesychast style is an eastern practice. As he said in the video, they repeated and meditate the "Our Father" (Pater Noster) prayer while working or walking. But their intention was the same, as Saint Benedict explained, they wanted to commune with the Divine Light "With *eyes open to the deifying light* the innermost heart *expands in God* as members of the cenobium learn to honor and revere what they see each other becoming." (Rule of Saint Benedict) According to St. Gregory, Saint Benedict, while praying in the middle of the night, *“beheld a flood of light* shining down from above more brilliant than the sun, and with it every trace of darkness cleared away.” The saint then saw the entire world enveloped in a single beam of light, and the soul of a bishop he knew being carried up to heaven. Benedict cried out to his guest, the deacon Servandus, who came up in time to see the last of the vision. St. Gregory, in explaining the vision, states: “All creation is bound to appear small to a soul that sees the Creator. *Once it beholds a little of His light* , it finds all creatures small indeed.” St. Benedict’s vision of light presented a theological problem for Western theologians, who equated seeing God with seeing the divine essence. So, even if they didn't had the Jesus Prayer, or Prayer of the Heart specifically, the "innermost of their hearts" (that the eastern called _nous_ ) were open to receive God in his divine light. They had the same faith, but a different praxis.
@diversothermonks Hi I would love to talk to you about your video on Wodan. I'm working on a document on the subject ane I'd like to pick your brain on it. I'd really appreciate an email or some sort that I can contact you with. Thanks
I had an Anglican rosary custom made several years ago back before I came to Holy Orthodoxy. After listening to this history, which I had previously unknown, I began praying the Paternoster on these beads, and saying "most holy Theotokos, save us" on the gaude beads. It has already helped me immensely in my struggles through early drug withdrawals. I never knew what power the Our Father had. I guess I should have figured.
I'm a medieval reenactor, I reenact a franciscan and a benedictine friar from around 1410s to be precise, and your videos helped me to understand a lot of things and learn A LOT of new things! I found your channel thanks to the video about confession, and now I'm here, learning more about my own humble paternoster with wooden beads. Thank you SO MUCH for your work!
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Thank you for the history of these. As a Catholic I definitely appreciate the “Dominican” rosary and have plenty of them but I think I might have to make myself a Paternoster. I’m in a very Catholic/Orthodox friendly part of the US but I like the idea of a pretty incognito prayer aide that isn’t immediately recognizable as a Catholic rosary or an Eastern chotki.
I'm very glad to see another upload on this splendid channel. As well as interesting, it's an important source for my historical novels
People are looking more to spiritual practice and meditation to combat the zietgeist and tumult of the world and this is one way to meditate on the gospel and calm the mind, they are very astetical and to help quieten the mind and soul ...use them in many ways and make youre own formula of prayer !
Thank you for giving into the clamor Father!
Another great video on forgotten history. I do like the idea of custom beads with trinkets/trophies of pilgrimage, a sort of Christian magpie'ism.
What happened to the long form conversation videos between you and His Excellency? I enjoyed listening to them whilst working.
Miss that Ortho-dog, sniffing out heresy.
As a Catholic this is a interesting video.
Many thanks for your edifying videos. I have a question: do the Western Rite Orthodox practice the Jesus prayer? I am Eastern Orthodox, and it is central to my prayer life. Did our Anglo-Saxon forbearers know about it? I’ve never heard it mentioned in any of their “lives” or writings.
No, the Jesus Prayer in hesychast style is an eastern practice. As he said in the video, they repeated and meditate the "Our Father" (Pater Noster) prayer while working or walking. But their intention was the same, as Saint Benedict explained, they wanted to commune with the Divine Light
"With *eyes open to the deifying light* the innermost heart *expands in God* as members of the cenobium learn to honor and revere what they see each other becoming." (Rule of Saint Benedict)
According to St. Gregory, Saint Benedict, while praying in the middle of the night, *“beheld a flood of light* shining down from above more brilliant than the sun, and with it every trace of darkness cleared away.” The saint then saw the entire world enveloped in a single beam of light, and the soul of a bishop he knew being carried up to heaven. Benedict cried out to his guest, the deacon Servandus, who came up in time to see the last of the vision. St. Gregory, in explaining the vision, states: “All creation is bound to appear small to a soul that sees the Creator. *Once it beholds a little of His light* , it finds all creatures small indeed.” St. Benedict’s vision of light presented a theological problem for Western theologians, who equated seeing God with seeing the divine essence.
So, even if they didn't had the Jesus Prayer, or Prayer of the Heart specifically, the "innermost of their hearts" (that the eastern called _nous_ ) were open to receive God in his divine light. They had the same faith, but a different praxis.
Curious about your sources when you talk about medieval attitudes to prayer. Would love to read more on that.
Father, I have a question. Would you pray the Pater Noster 3 times a day in addition to a Daily Office or just by itself?
Reminds me of what the Russian gangsters in prison used to pray on and fidget with. I believe they call them a chetki.
*Chotki
What happened to the interviews with your Bishop? I was a few episodes in, and I cannot find them anymore.
Where can one buy a good quality Paternoster Cord?
What are some good online stores to purchase paternoster beads?
@diversothermonks Hi I would love to talk to you about your video on Wodan. I'm working on a document on the subject ane I'd like to pick your brain on it. I'd really appreciate an email or some sort that I can contact you with.
Thanks