Thank you for sharing this. We recorded so many videos and I completely forgot about this one. There are a few concerns in social media about using these fingerings in big basses. I should have mentioned in the video that I use pivots, not extensions. I developed all my technique in big basses, mostly a 7/8 bass. So, yes, the technique works in any sized bass. Monday I will make a video with a big bass to demonstrate it. Cheers!
Machado is one of the most open minded double bass players and teachers, hope more and more players will follow his approach to this wonderful instrument. Thank you Geoff for bringing it to us!
I love how Marcos reiterates 'relaxation'. I have wrecked my left hand in the past due to tension. Wish I would have learned proper technique years ago. Thank you, Sir! :)
Awesome lesson, especially for an italian player like me who often also plays 124. Incredible player, by the way has he ever played an out of tune note?
Love the approach of integrale technique, the tao is an awesome book which helped me a lot to improve my playing. Totally agree with the concept of a core technique (mine is simandl) , the, Rabbath pivot and now the Machado way. Woul also say that Marcos is very nice and active on social network , responding all questions and would conclude to say a big thanks to Discover double bass, your work is fantastic for all bass players, the kind of web media i woulg have in my early student years.
Geoff thank you so much for this interesting video. I met some Italian bass players who used the 3rd finger in lower positions and it always struck me. I tried it but felt uncomfortable so I definitely would have to work on it. I'm picking up this book and hitting the shed after this video!
I think that the natural approach of 124 can work a lot of the time, but in some passages using 1234 so that the hand covers a minor third instead of a whole step comes in handy. As bass players we need to be as efficient as possible, we need to utilize all the fingers, not chop one off.
Truely inspirational playing. Very surprised to see I was only the third person to "like" this video. Maybe other db players are too busy practising? Perhaps I should be doing more too, instead of watching UA-cam!
Me as a new bass player: (Uses third finger) Bassist friends: What the heck are you doing, is 1 2 4 Me: Is more comfortable Friends: That's not what Simandl says Me: Cry... Till now
Thank God! I naturally use my third finger. A professional bassist then told me, we don't do that. Honestly, when I even consider 124 I get this feeling of a meat cleaver over my third finger ready to amputate. Thank-you for this video. I can now go back to practicing with my 1234 way of playing? Without guilt? Wow. Thank-you!!
Enjoyed the input in the video but I agree - performing as a virtuoso needs to be slowed down for us mere mortals who require time to see what is happening! Indeed, Marcos says it will be 'very easy to see', then his example all flashes by in a mo!
Agreed, and in the lessons we filmed on this topic Marcos does play at an appropriate tempo with a detailed explanation etc. This is just an interview about the topic and Marcos plays it quickly just to demonstrate it's possible, not to teach the specifics. However, I can see that many have found it unhelpful that Marcos demonstrates so quickly and we will take that on board for future videos. Thanks for watching :-)
With all due respect what good is trying to show or demonstrate something if you're playing so fast that you can't see what he's actually doing, much of this video is a waste of time
Marcos is discussing and demonstrating the concept in the context of an interview, rather than teaching the specifics of technique in the context of a lesson. However, I hear that some have found the tempo frustrating and we will try to address this in future videos. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
Thank you for sharing this. We recorded so many videos and I completely forgot about this one. There are a few concerns in social media about using these fingerings in big basses. I should have mentioned in the video that I use pivots, not extensions. I developed all my technique in big basses, mostly a 7/8 bass. So, yes, the technique works in any sized bass. Monday I will make a video with a big bass to demonstrate it. Cheers!
Machado is one of the most open minded double bass players and teachers, hope more and more players will follow his approach to this wonderful instrument. Thank you Geoff for bringing it to us!
Thank you for watching and for your kind words.
I love how Marcos reiterates 'relaxation'. I have wrecked my left hand in the past due to tension. Wish I would have learned proper technique years ago. Thank you, Sir! :)
Awesome lesson, especially for an italian player like me who often also plays 124. Incredible player, by the way has he ever played an out of tune note?
Thanks for watching and we are glad you enjoyed it! :-)
"The music decides my fingering, not Simandl or Bille."
This is a fantastic course.
Thanks for this Interview.
Love the approach of integrale technique, the tao is an awesome book which helped me a lot to improve my playing. Totally agree with the concept of a core technique (mine is simandl) , the, Rabbath pivot and now the Machado way.
Woul also say that Marcos is very nice and active on social network , responding all questions and would conclude to say a big thanks to Discover double bass, your work is fantastic for all bass players, the kind of web media i woulg have in my early student years.
Parabéns Marcos! Ótimas dicas para técnica. Vou estudar seu livro!! Sucesso!! Um abraço do Adriano Giffoni
Magnífico!! Muchas gracias! Saludos desde Buenos Aires. Buena vida para todos!!.
representando o Brasil! Que alegria.
ps: Fica em casa, gurizada!
Using your third finger? That's illegal! I'm calling the police!
JK. I've been watching too much Davie504 recently.
Christopher Causer slap like now! 😂
BTW I LOVE Davie’s recent videos. Checkmate!
Geoff thank you so much for this interesting video. I met some Italian bass players who used the 3rd finger in lower positions and it always struck me. I tried it but felt uncomfortable so I definitely would have to work on it. I'm picking up this book and hitting the shed after this video!
I think that the natural approach of 124 can work a lot of the time, but in some passages using 1234 so that the hand covers a minor third instead of a whole step comes in handy. As bass players we need to be as efficient as possible, we need to utilize all the fingers, not chop one off.
Truely inspirational playing. Very surprised to see I was only the third person to "like" this video. Maybe other db players are too busy practising? Perhaps I should be doing more too, instead of watching UA-cam!
Me as a new bass player: (Uses third finger)
Bassist friends: What the heck are you doing, is 1 2 4
Me: Is more comfortable
Friends: That's not what Simandl says
Me: Cry... Till now
Ivan Jarpa pshh. I use 3rd finger while playing Simandl😂😂
Thank God! I naturally use my third finger. A professional bassist then told me, we don't do that. Honestly, when I even consider 124 I get this feeling of a meat cleaver over my third finger ready to amputate. Thank-you for this video. I can now go back to practicing with my 1234 way of playing? Without guilt? Wow. Thank-you!!
What a interview..... Amazing. Thank you all
Fantastic interview! What kind of mic is being used to record the bass? Thanks!
I'm afraid I'm not sure, it was provided by the recording studio.
The examples need to be played slower for us students.
I agree my name is Jeffrey Christopher l made a comment about that very same thing
I agree! Slow it down maestro
Enjoyed the input in the video but I agree - performing as a virtuoso needs to be slowed down for us mere mortals who require time to see what is happening!
Indeed, Marcos says it will be 'very easy to see', then his example all flashes by in a mo!
La cara de Geoff en 3:22 resume mi cara viendo todos los vídeos de DDB!!!!
Wowzers...
...not assuming that third finger is weaker than the other three... Agree
You can build strength in it by using it, obviously the 2nd finger will always be the strongest. But that does not mean you cannot use 3rd finger ever
See Earl Gately's Bluegrass Bass book. :)
Don’t forget Art Davis’s book on the subject, “Arthur Davis System for Double Bass”
Tim Miller Yes, great person also! But in jazz is far more common, usually MUCH more open minded musicians, such as NHOP and many others.
PhD. in punk! Playing what works.
4:28 same dude
Great video, but as others have mentioned, it would be pedagogically better to play the examples slower. And yes, third fingers are allowed!!
Agreed, and in the lessons we filmed on this topic Marcos does play at an appropriate tempo with a detailed explanation etc. This is just an interview about the topic and Marcos plays it quickly just to demonstrate it's possible, not to teach the specifics. However, I can see that many have found it unhelpful that Marcos demonstrates so quickly and we will take that on board for future videos. Thanks for watching :-)
My third finger is thanking you and feeling like an important part of my hand again.....
Yeah sure, with that tiny bass! :-D Seriously though, it just does make a lot of sense to do what "works".
The master, full virtusose...
With all due respect what good is trying to show or demonstrate something if you're playing so fast that you can't see what he's actually doing, much of this video is a waste of time
Marcos is discussing and demonstrating the concept in the context of an interview, rather than teaching the specifics of technique in the context of a lesson. However, I hear that some have found the tempo frustrating and we will try to address this in future videos. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.