Are G2 legit? Rating IEM Katowice teams | HLTV Confirmed S6E48

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  • Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
  • In this episode of Confirmed, we go back to school and grade all the performances of IEM Katowice with grades from F to A, including G2, FURIA, C9, FaZe, NAVI, Heroic, IHC, and more!
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    0:00 - Introduction
    3:28 - How is Prof’s name pronounced?
    Recent news
    7:09 - Fantasy 1% check-in
    8:45 - RMR quals start
    18:07 - 1win sign BoombI4, hooch
    20:10 - Nigma Galaxy win Impact
    22:07 - Skinionaire: SPUNJ & Striker
    IEM Katowice
    30:06 - Stats & play style observations
    41:40 - paiN
    44:26 - EG
    50:03 - Permitta
    51:42 - Greyhound
    53:22 - MIBR
    57:49 - FURIA
    1:03:57 - ENCE
    1:08:50 - Sprout
    1:14:35 - BIG
    1:19:57 - Cloud9
    1:25:09 - NIP
    1:30:04 - MOUZ
    1:34:08 - IHC
    1:38:49 - Spirit
    1:43:40 - fnatic
    1:45:45 - Complexity
    1:50:35 - FaZe
    1:56:33 - Vitality
    2:02:46 - Outsiders
    2:07:36 - NAVI
    2:23:57 - Liquid
    2:32:13 - Heroic
    2:40:38 - G2
    2:46:38 - How long G2 run is gonna continue?
    Playtime
    2:49:05 - N1 Moment: G2 celebration
    2:54:48 - G2’s overconfident moments
    3:05:00 - SPUNJ gives relationship advice
    / spunj
    / strikerhltvorg
    / professeur_cs
    / lukaswiinholt
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  • @blablatruc1575
    @blablatruc1575 Рік тому +24

    Zvonimir and Milan are classic slavic names

  • @K0kEEE
    @K0kEEE Рік тому +45

    Playing into the 2 empty chairs joke by Thorin is so fucking funny

  • @albert_chen
    @albert_chen Рік тому +12

    SpunJ relationship advice lowkey goes hard.

    • @jjdn43
      @jjdn43 Рік тому

      Yep it may be quite cliche at this point but it was absolutely well-said.

  • @Pyxyty
    @Pyxyty Рік тому +83

    The fact that this is even a question is absurd

    • @KubaPodoba
      @KubaPodoba Рік тому +4

      21:14 😮😢

    • @SgtTraz
      @SgtTraz Рік тому +3

      guess you got baited

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому +2

      @@SgtTraz meh, already listen to their podcasts anyways

    • @SgtTraz
      @SgtTraz Рік тому +2

      @@Pyxyty facts same m8

    • @danieltan8107
      @danieltan8107 Рік тому +1

      I’m a g2 fan myself but the level of cs played at kato wasn’t exactly stellar…

  • @davidw7609
    @davidw7609 Рік тому +13

    Prof and Striker have such stale opinions...the one about Yekindar being the only win condition for liquid is so bad. yes he is important considering his position within the team but are they looking at the screen when they say this lol? they went to semis with Yeki going -24 on the tourney.

    • @dalytennis
      @dalytennis Рік тому +6

      Striker's take on Osee being too passive of an awper because of how he played a 1v1 situation (where he was trying to play mind games with Dupreeh) is one of the worst takes I have heard from him in a long time.

    • @jamiemansfield9430
      @jamiemansfield9430 Рік тому +3

      @@dalytennis ill give professeur a pass but striker truly adds nothing more than a silver on reddit could

    • @kenobents2741
      @kenobents2741 Рік тому

      @@jamiemansfield9430 always has been like that. Spunj is carrying all the time.

  • @Phantox1101
    @Phantox1101 Рік тому +5

    Best podcast in the scene

  • @SgtTraz
    @SgtTraz Рік тому +5

    Hair is lookin great chad

  • @DocYAYAYA
    @DocYAYAYA Рік тому +16

    Navi look lost all over the map and their map pool is terrible. Unless they pick up an IGL this is going to be a terrible year for Navi

  • @yowaimo8387
    @yowaimo8387 Рік тому +2

    spunj going off at 3:56, gotta love it!

  • @zagonialpar9208
    @zagonialpar9208 Рік тому +2

    Roll the BumpR Lukas!!! - Also SPUNJ has been great.

  • @pellevastano
    @pellevastano Рік тому +6

    The one I disagree with a lot is Vitality. I feel like they deserve a D+ or a straight D, but not a C+. That Overpass throw was a travesty, and apEX's calling in that series was awful. They beat NIP like they should, fnatic pushed them much harder than a team of this caliber should be pushed, they got absolutely bodied by Heroic, and throwing Overpass and losing the series the way they did is the first major nail in the coffin for this lineup.
    Calling it now: this team is going to be embarrassed in Paris, and they're going to bench apEX and have Magisk IGL. It's clear the communication is really bad for the team, and that's leading to this team having terrible T-sides where they gather no information and die pointlessly, not to mention neither apEX or Dupreeh is really cracking open bomb sites right now, and it's a boat anchor to their CT sides where everyone else on this team really knows their role and can hold a site. If they get eliminated before the knockout stage, at least 1 head should roll, and apEX is the obvious person to replace.

    • @d10ufsbg87
      @d10ufsbg87 Рік тому

      what are you smocking lad? stop watching, it aint for u

    • @raze_303
      @raze_303 Рік тому

      @@d10ufsbg87no he’s right apex ain’t it

    • @MoonIronTR
      @MoonIronTR 5 місяців тому

      Casuals

  • @shittygamer4591
    @shittygamer4591 Рік тому +4

    Difference between Navi and Jordan is in CSGO the Jordan approach clearly doesn't work because the tilt decreases performances where with a physical body athlete like Michael it might enhance his performance. It has to be the same with motorsports too?

  • @doogleisfat
    @doogleisfat Рік тому +1

    Hair regrowth strong Chaddy B 💪

  • @bruceturnbull4219
    @bruceturnbull4219 Рік тому +17

    2:53:50 am I the only one who thinks this entire argument is stupid? like Twistzz brought out the trophy because he won Katowice last year, I don’t think anyone is against Twistzz bringing out the trophy other than Striker and Prof here. he shouldn’t touch the trophy because he couldn’t get to playoffs and a superstition says so?
    it reminds me how Prof made such a big deal on this podcast about C9 letting CEO Jack Etienne lift the Dallas trophy when literally nobody else cares.

    • @pbsquilz
      @pbsquilz Рік тому +8

      I defo agre about twistzz he was fine to lift the trophy I think we all loved seeing him again even tho eliminated he won last year so.. defo disagree about jack though, I think the players themselves should always lift it.

    • @kenobents2741
      @kenobents2741 Рік тому

      Prof and striker back with unreasonable opinions. Nothing new tho

  • @RmPrtv
    @RmPrtv Рік тому

    Just back to conversation about Na'Vi, when we're talking about npl, we need to keep in mind m0nesy and b1t. Same academy players, but completely different level, so the pressure is on, same school and knowledge transfer

  • @shittygamer4591
    @shittygamer4591 Рік тому +2

    Overconfident moments? This is Tier 1 - like Chad said. A so-called "overconfident play..." "Force[s] a reaction". It's not Tier 8.

  • @EntrEsprit
    @EntrEsprit Рік тому +1

    2:17:37 exactly their problem, or igling problem, you can't sit on inferno the whole round in the same spots and think you can win CT halfs on inferno against the likes of Faze, G2, Heroic, this is not how current counter strike works

  • @jubsaleigarciavillela8467
    @jubsaleigarciavillela8467 Рік тому +8

    2:50:53 yeah, Brazilians know how to party and cheer fr 🤪 there was a huuuuuge party at Furia Mansion after Major and we didn’t even win tho

  • @Pereplut
    @Pereplut Рік тому +6

    NaVi B- vs Liquid B+ makes no sense. NaVi has new player and still beat Liquid 2-0 in group stage.

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому +14

      Havent reached the explanation, but personally that sounds about right. I dont believe Liquid can beat G2 or Heroic, i think their ceiling for this tournament was semis, and maybe taking a map off of G2.
      Navi, however, their ceiling is around grand finals, i dont think they couldve beat G2 or Heroic in a bo5 but in a bo3? For sure they shouldve been capable of at least beating Heroic, even with a new player. S1mple underperformed heavily during semis, so I think the b minus is justifiable.
      Just my opinion, hope it helps
      Edit: now that im seeing their justifications, it became clear that these ratings are not meant to be compared from team to team, but rather based on how each team performed relative to what they could achieve and what was expected of them. Point being, Liquid getting a better grade than Navi doesnt mean that they think Liquid is the better team

    • @onemicyeehaw1583
      @onemicyeehaw1583 Рік тому

      @@Pyxyty Navi beating g2 lul

    • @Nemanjaftn
      @Nemanjaftn Рік тому

      100%

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому

      @@onemicyeehaw1583 i meant Heroic haha, my bad

    • @onemicyeehaw1583
      @onemicyeehaw1583 Рік тому +1

      @@Pyxyty it's okay, honestly anything can happen in cs right now, i genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Navi managed to beat g2 randomly out of NOWHERE but I'm hoping not because Navi needs to get better before they deserve to make it to playoffs again.

  • @71snack48
    @71snack48 Рік тому

    Algorithm

  • @RmPrtv
    @RmPrtv Рік тому

    Also, feels like G2 won the games on the "wave" more than from strategy or calls

  • @roccoparr6156
    @roccoparr6156 Рік тому +11

    mens)))

  • @HEETGG
    @HEETGG Рік тому +1

    I like the comment about us 🙂

  • @danilodasic997
    @danilodasic997 Рік тому +12

    "Are G2 legit" lmao what a dumb title

  • @maxedoutbeing3239
    @maxedoutbeing3239 Рік тому +2

    I'm a die hard fan of g2 but they need to be humble before they win the major. The more you are an underdog the more chance you have to win

    • @onemicyeehaw1583
      @onemicyeehaw1583 Рік тому +7

      Idk how being humble has anything to do with their chances of victory or losing now considering g2 has been humbled for years now, winning two tournaments isn't gonna make them forget. Niko won blast and still knew there was a chance to katowice and hunter has spoken about not becoming over confident on different occasions, I don't think it's an issue

    • @maxedoutbeing3239
      @maxedoutbeing3239 Рік тому

      @@onemicyeehaw1583 I'm no pro gamer but i know the consequences of being cocky. I'm just saying they should play like underdogs

    • @onemicyeehaw1583
      @onemicyeehaw1583 Рік тому +10

      @@maxedoutbeing3239 I completely disagree, g2s issue for the longest time has been NOT having confidence. They have thrown 1st place many times to throwing games and choking them. That's why everyone questioned what would happen if g2 dropped a map in katowice, would they choke the rest of the tournament because they thought they couldn't be stopped? The confidence they came through with on ancient after dropping inferno was something special after all the defeats and chokes in their history.
      I'm not discrediting what you're saying but I don't think that's really an issue for g2

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому

      @@maxedoutbeing3239 sorry mate but i completely disagree with them having to not play cocky. Yes, they definitely gotta lessen some of their aggressive plays in post plant scenarios where they overextend, but at the same time, if they dont play cocky, you wont get the impact plays of jks and hunter with their 2vXs and 1vXs, you wont get the same impact from M0nesy and Niko's playstyle, heck you wont even get the same effect from Hooxi's weird ass calling that seems to work out for them.
      I think they dont need to humble themselves, but they also have to not be overconfident. They found the perfect balance of cockiness that works for them without being detrimental

  • @ithrowstuffinavideogame
    @ithrowstuffinavideogame Рік тому +2

    EG gets an F- from me. Team is washed bro

  • @ashutosh262
    @ashutosh262 Рік тому

    Reason hltv arguing about being g2 legit or not bcoz we all know spunz is a sucker for Navi and simple .. And now he can't fathom g2 are beating ass for now for all team including navi..

  • @LelouchLothric
    @LelouchLothric Рік тому +11

    Clown title

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому +1

      Agreed. Clickbait bs

    • @iridiumman3087
      @iridiumman3087 Рік тому +9

      The casters and desk hyped up the scenario of g2 losing their map streak and tilting hard and throwing. They lost the map streak and still closed out of the game. This makes them more than legit to me.

    • @mist5023
      @mist5023 Рік тому +3

      @@Pyxyty its a leading question to get you to click, and shouldn't hurt anyone, but I guess ur ego is hurt for some reason?

    • @Pyxyty
      @Pyxyty Рік тому

      @@mist5023 so you basically agreed with my statement that it's clickbait, and it's my personal opinion that clickbait is bullshit. Dunno where you got the ego thing from, i assume it's just one of many random insults you have in your bag of shit to throw at people when you dont have anything logical to actually rebutt with?
      But anyways, thanks for proving my point :))

    • @LelouchLothric
      @LelouchLothric Рік тому +1

      @@mist5023 if a tittle said: "did astral is really have an era." Would that not make people react the exact same way?

  • @huh-vc5ke
    @huh-vc5ke Рік тому

    faze should absolutely be f-

    • @pellevastano
      @pellevastano Рік тому +1

      Nah, Faze lost to good teams. Not saying that isn't like a low C or possibly a D, but it's not a complete failure from the team. The trends for the team are worrying, but we'll see what happens with either the grand slam or major.

    • @huh-vc5ke
      @huh-vc5ke Рік тому

      @@pellevastano Losing to G2 is fine but losing to liquid is unacceptable for the caliber of team faze is. Same can be said for vitality but in vitality's case, it's apex who lost them the game; in faze's case, it's a systematic problem. Their map pool is garbage: their overpass is basically free for taking by any team; their good maps, inferno and nuke, are no longer world-class; they always second ban anuibis for some reason and they aren't that good on ancient as well; they constantly float mirage as the decider and constantly losing. Their discipline is also absolutely horrible in the game against liquid with players constantly overpeeking and giving back men advantages. Their strat basically relies on osee missing easy shots. For these reasons, faze absolutely deserve an f grade for their Katowice performance.

  • @bananfisker3610
    @bananfisker3610 Рік тому +9

    and again striker please for my sakes. stop stop talking and stop saying "like like like " f...

  • @Edward-oj1gk
    @Edward-oj1gk Рік тому +11

    Electronic should be back to his full firepower position.. F navi system or that someone who things this is a good move.. PUt back electronic to its rightful position being a top 2 rifler behind niko.. i dont care axile or anyone , it is electronic who is the 2nd hand man of GOAT, 2nd best rifler behind niko..

    • @nasht7818
      @nasht7818 Рік тому +10

      True. Is npl shit? He is but shouldnt blame him at all since hes a rookie with no experience at all. Drop him and get a real igl. Elec is having same issue as niko used to have. Also,s0mple needs to take a break definitely. My guy is getting toxic and tilted a lot again

    • @rare8567
      @rare8567 Рік тому +3

      fucking this, im tired of hearing how smart blade is, he might be but the whole navi situation is on him.

    • @iridiumman3087
      @iridiumman3087 Рік тому +2

      As bad as boombl4 been, you have to agree that he did his job well as an igl.

    • @miskamikkonen6969
      @miskamikkonen6969 Рік тому

      @@nasht7818 im no Genius but i think his country is getting bombed ion kno tho 😹

    • @cribless810
      @cribless810 Рік тому +1

      @@iridiumman3087 bro he got divorced by a war supporting wife and he got removed like what?

  • @bob2000and10
    @bob2000and10 Рік тому

    23:30 Olga is a man