I got 2 pairs of these . One Gore tex version for winter running and one blue/lime pair for the rest of the year. These things are well built. Love them. Great review!
Fantastic review, Lloyd. I’m fan of Brooks Road Running shoes (Adrenaline’s) but I didn’t find good Brooks options for my trail runs in the past. Seems that these updated Cascadia 16 are something serious to think about. Thank you!
Thanks Andres, really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 It's a big update on the Cascadia 16 and it's definitely the best version of the shoe to date. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review Lloyd. Appreciate the time and effort you put in to all of them. I bought the Cascadia 16s a couple of days before the RAT in August and they were great. Usually will get a wide 2E shoe but just got a 1/2 size bigger in normal width and the toebox is perfect for me. Took a little bit of fiddling to get the lacing right - I found that using the lower holes on the last eyelets really helped. They seem pretty bombproof but surprisingly feel light and responsive which is a great combo. Good work mate 👌
Thanks Alistair that's really kind and I'm glad you are enjoying the Content on the channel 😊 Great to hear that the Cascadia 16's are working well for you and well done on the Rat. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, happy running 🙏😊
Looks like a great daily trainer trail shoe. I saw this shoe in my local running store and was impressed. I've wanted a pair ever since then! Great review!
The Cascadia 16 would make a pretty solid daily trainer Chad 👍 It could be run all year round and it looks pretty solid in construction! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment mate 🙏
yeah they have a wider toebox, but if you have wide feet (like me), you can also get these in 2E width (in the grey version). thats what I went for, and they are extreemely comfortable ! I bought both the D width and 2E width, and then decided to return the D width.
Thanks for the review. I've been growing frustrated, trying to find an Altra alternative. I have the lone peaks but they are not cushiony enough and the Olympus doesn't work for me. It hurts my feet. I just ordered some of these cascadias and hopefully they are wide enough for me. Thanks for putting together the video
No problem Tim 👍 The Cascadia is a wide shoe, maybe not as wide as an Altra but it's got good space and volume in the toe. Hope the shoes work out for you and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great to see Lloyd back at it reviewing shoes. My La Sportiva Karacal's are near the end of there life. This along with some of Lloyds other favourites will be considered.
Cheers Shaun that's really appreciated and it's so good to be back running again! 😁 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
I need to come down and try these when I get a chance. Have been running in the 14 and the 15 and these sound like exactly the tweaks I'd want from an update!
Definitely pop in and try them on Billy. I personally think it's a good update to the Cascadia 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The best review Loyd!!! I borrow cascadia 16 from a friend and I had the same problem. It was a great shoe but not for my foot shape (I've narrow foot). It was impossible to control them in technical steep downhills because my foot was sliding insight the shoe. Solution: buy women's version. It is narrower, 15g lighter and my foot is not moving. You should try it!
Thanks Esteban, glad you enjoyed it. It's definitely a wide shoe and I did really struggle with movement in the shoe. Well done for getting the women's shoe, good thinking 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏
Another great review. Well, done. How did you like this compared to the TOPO Mountain Racer 2. Keep up the great reviews and hope your recovery continues.
Thanks Stanley, really glad you enjoyed it. The two shoes actually have a lot in common. The biggest difference between them would be the Topo has a bit more width in the toe box and a little bit less heel off set. Apart from that they run quite similar. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
I just bought a 2nd pair of these Gore Tex Cascadia16's....I have been beating snot out of my 1st pair and they are well built. I figure they will eventually wear out and I want to have a spare pair when that happens. I use mine on fire roads, railroad tracks, light trails & hills. They work really well at that. I would hike mountains in them if it was all I had and I’m sure they would be capable of that. ….but (I prefer a hiking boot for that activity). The Gore tex version of the cascadia 16 is my go -to winter running shoe, good grip on icy roads and my feet stay warm and dry. I really like the DNA loft 2 cushioning. It makes the shoe feel responsive. My New Balance Hierro V6 fresh foams feel too spongy on the trails. Different shoes for different terrain and purposes. Its nice to have choices. I will still give the Cascadia 16’s 5 stars overall for an affordable, rugged, capable, package.
Really glad you are getting on with your Cascadia 16's Michael 👍 It's definitely the best Cascadia to date in my opinion. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
It's definitely a big improvement on the previous Cascadia models Julian. I still think there's better trail shoes out there but it's a big step in the right direction for Brooks 👍 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
It's a pretty wide fitting shoe Simon so I'm sure they'd be a good fit. I'm not sure they are as wide as an Altra but pretty close 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
The colours and design are lush. Hopefully the performance matches the appearance. I'm loving the Fenix head torch btw Loyd 👍🏻🏃♂️ In the intro, where it says what do you run for, I always say to myself I'm searching for the missing question mark lol. Great review dude 😁👍🏻
Thanks very much It's a good looking shoe Mark 😎 Really glad you are enjoying your Fenix torch! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Sorry it took so long Michael, it's hard getting the miles in when you're injured! 😊 Really hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure glad to see that you're getting stronger. 💪🏼 I have been eyeing this pair for some time, now just need to convince my wife why I need them😁 More power to your channel Lloyd 👌🏼 Keep running 🏃♂️
Theres quite a few shoes that will do that nowadays, including the Cascadia 16 👍 Here's a few to look at - Hoka Speedgoat 4 Hoka Torrent 2 Salomon Sense Ride 4 Salomon Ultra Glide The North Face VECTIV infinite New Balance Hierro V6 Inov-8 Trailfly ultra G 300 A lot of these shoes have reviews on the channel if you wanted to check them out 😊 Thanks for watching and I hope this helps 🙏
Great review again Loyd. My foot shape is similar to yours so it’s good to know they fit wide. Hope the recovery back is going well. Patience is the key. Cheers. Dave
It's definitely a pretty roomy shoe Dave. The recovery is going well thanks (touch wood) Definitely going to be very patient for the rest of the year and just build back slowly 😊 Thanks for supporting the channel mate 🙏
Looks great and a great review too 👍🏻 Would you say it would be alright with a little road running too? just for those races that are a mix or road and trail. Thanks.
Thanks Martyn, glad you enjoyed the video. The Cascadia can definitely handle a bit of road in between the trails or on those multi terrain races. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Thanks very much I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Scarpa are starting to make some decent trail running shoes so I'm sure they'll appear on the channel soon! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
It sure is a good looking shoe Roland. It's a big improvement on the previous Cascadia models but I still think the Peregrine is a better shoe. Thanks for watching and supporting as always 🙏😊
Hi! Great review. Do you recommend this shoe for a 100k race like CCC? How about Salomon Ultra Glide and Hoka Speedgoat 5? What shoe would you choose for this race? Thanks for your time and congratulations for your channel.
You could use the Cascadia for the CCC. It's a pretty wide fitting shoe so a lot of it depends on your foot shape. I would personally go for the Ultra Glide or the Speedgoat 👍 I used the Speedgoat 3 when I ran UTMB and it worked really well. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Henry, I'm glad yoy enjoyed the video. The new Cascadia 16 is a really good version of the shoe but I'd personally go for the Peregrine. The Peregrine feels a bit more nimble and it fits my foot shape better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Roland 👍 Hope you guys are fit and well. We love seeing all your pictures from your adventures, keep them coming! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Thanks I'm glad you think so! If you're looking for a fast, nimble trail shoe it would have to be the Catamount 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks mate - appreciated ! I decided to get the Cascadia 16 in the end (as the lugs are deeper, and so far so good on the steep trails - love them !! : )
Great review as we’ve all become used to Loyd, quick Qn, have you heard of a release date yet for the speedboat 5? Still holding out hope for a return to a slightly wider fit 🤞🏻
Cheers Jon, glad you enjoyed the video. The Speedgoat 5 is due out at the end of the year. However I have heard rumours that it might be a bit delayed, due to all the madness going on in the world at the moment! Hope this helps Jon and thanks for supporting the channel as always its appreciated 🙏😊
How are they for just hiking - not running? Planning to hike in dry, rocky conditions, with some inclines - some even steep. Been researching and I think I want to try these. Will be traveling to a big park and hiking for several days. Stability good for hikes? Thanks!
Awesome review mate. I was checking these out today at a local race event. I have a wider foot and the 15s fit like a glove but I found them a bit heavy so never bought them. With the 8mm drop do you notice the high heel? I recently got a Merrells shoe with a 10mm drop. Felt good in store but on the trails they are dicey running downhills at speed and now I’m hesitate to consider bigger drops but I really like where brooks shoes are going. got a big event I’m training for in October and considering a new shoe. Currently I run in saucony tr mad rivers (still I know) which are near death. Unfortunately the xodus ultras my pinky is hard up on the side of the shoe otherwise it would have be a no brainer
Thanks Troy, glad you enjoyed the video. I'm not a fan of a high off set on a trail shoe and I'd definitely go no higher than 8mm 👍 The Cascadia didn't feel high in heel and its nice and roomy in the toe box, Infact a bit to wide for my foot shape. It's a shame the Xodus Ultras didn't work for your footshape, it's a great trail shoe! Hole this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great video. Question - Brooks Cascadia 16 or Nike Pegasus 3? I do a half pavement half trail in a single run. But tend to get achy legs as I'm an old git.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The Pegasus is definitely more cushioned underfoot so it handles the road sections really well. It depends how technical the trails are you run because the grip isn't great on the Nike shoe! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
So you think it could cope with the odd stretch of road between trail sections or the couple of miles of tarmac that you have to run to get to the trails?
I think it crosses over fine Mark for a bit of tarmac. Obviously this is a personal thing and it really depends on how much soft cushioning you want under your foot on the road? I'd always recommend trying some on first if you can? Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Good luck coming back from injury!! I was so looking forward to the 16. Tried them on yesterday and they are just too wide. Booooo!! The 15 wasn't at all but that shoe wasn't thrilling. Back to La Sportiva Mutant a great supportive shoe for narrowish feet and various terrains.
Thanks Jeff, it's great to be back and long may it continue 😊 The Cascadia 16 is a wide fitting shoe that's for sure. If you've got narrow feet it doesn't really work depending on how technical the trails are you run obviously. The Mutant is a good winter shoe, especially if you are quite narrow. I've never really got on with it, it feels a bit to firm for me underfoot and a bit to stiff in the midsole 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I run throughout the winter months when there is ice and snow on the road surface. Do you think this shoe would give me a much better grip than a normal running shoe? Would the sole breakdown fast if running on concrete/tarmac surfaces? Thank you.
It's a grippy trail shoe Ken but I'm not sure many shoes can grip icey roads unless they've got spikes in the outsole. Having never run the shoe in snow or on ice it's impossible for me to say how the grip would perform. Also the lugs would wear down a lot quicker if you were just running on tarmac and concrete 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Updated to the 16 from the 15 a couple of months back. Much prefer the 15 if I’m honest. Pivot posts in the 15 make a difference (for me), too much foot movement in the 16 and I cannot keep them tight on my foot at all. A step backwards in my opinion. Hope the 17 version is better. On a positive though they are softer which I quite like but that’s about it. Done just over 100 miles in them so far, all off-road.
The Cascadia 15 was a much narrower more fitted shoe when it comes to fit wasn't it Mike. Thats probably why you're getting some movement in the 16 it's a much wider fit in general! 🤔 I actually like all the other changes to the shoe but unfortunately it just doesn't work for my foot shape. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I only tried these on in my local store and ran around in them in store. So I can't really talk about what they are like after a few miles or even once you get them out in the woods. I do own the peregrine 10 and have quite a few miles on them. For me, they are very different shoes. The cascadia is directed more at running along on smooth trails, rolling hills, etc. Whereas the pergerine (and again, for me) is very good at quick, grippy attack style runs through whatever you can throw at them, mud, rocks, roots, water, snow, loose terrain, but are not my first choice for the buffed out, rolling hills types of trail runs. I ended up buying altra timps (which, I absolutely love, but come with their own set of issues.) I wanted to add a zero drop, wider shoe to my trail rotation and needed something to replace the road to trail spot). I have somewhat of a normal food and run in all kinds of hokas, saucony, skechers, etc, but I will say that (again, for me) the fit of the cascadia was not wide and quite uncomfortable, I know it's very subjective, but the shoe felt very boxy, clunky, almost work boot like. I do love a nice durable trail shoe that breaks in and "loosens up" nicely, so hopefully that is the case here, but it was enough to put them right back in the box in the store.
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed the video. Its a good improvement but I'd still pick the Peregrine before the Cascadia 16. The Peregrine fits my foot shape better so I feel a lot more connected to the upper and a lot more stable on technical trails 👍 Hope this helps John and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Beautiful review as always Loyd, my opinion is incredibly similar to yours, the width of the forefoot does not allow me to feel confident in the technical areas, as much as i can tighten the laces. I would like to see it thinner, with a drop of 6 mm and vibram megagrip. Then it would be the perfect all-round shoe. For now I have found a similar set in the Scarpa Rapid (it's a run/fast hiking shoe i Know but try to belive) and in 10 years I tried a lot of shoes
It's definitely a wide fitting shoe Marco. I didn't really have any issues with the heel off set but I do like a 4mm or 6mm off set on my trail shoes. A trail shoe would always be better with Vibram Megagrip on the outsole that's for sure Marco 😉 I've been hearing lots of good things about the Scarpa trail shoes so I'll have to get some to try! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I think you should love the Rapid, it's very similar to the Peregrine 10 with more secure fit (not like the11) and little more cushioning and response. Recovers quickly and good runs!!!
Hey Lloyd, Have you had a chance to run in the Brooks Catamount as a comparison? They are lighter and look pretty good from the reviews I have seen. My favorite trail shoe has been the Evo Speedgoat. Much lighter, wider and less rigid upper than SG4. I cant find them anywhere as old now and no stock. And not sure if a new version is ever coming, or whether Hoka just replaced it with Mafate collection. I have the Mafate 2 and they are nowhere near as nice as the Evo Speedgoat. Heavier, more rigid feeling outsole and does not have the rocker shape.
No I haven't run in the Catamount but it's a much lighter and more nimble shoe than the Cascadia. Unfortunately it doesn't have much lug on the outsole so it's not much good this time of the year in the UK. A lot of runners loved the Evo Speedgoat, unfortunately Hoka have stopped making it so they are hard to find nowadays 🤔 It's funny that people say it was wider because the Evo wasn't actually wider it just used a different fabric on the upper. The Speedgoat 5 should be along soon hopefully, December time if it's not delayed? Apparently its a combination of the Speedgoat 4 and the Evo so I've got my fingers crossed it runs more like the Speedgoat 3's 🤞🤞🤞🤞 Hope this helps Joel and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Nice review mate could only get two colours & only the grey in wide? Feels a bit boxy to me and still a bit heavy but still a good shoe doesn’t do anything wrong or exciting the Toyota Camry of trail shoes 😂will use it as a recovery shoe or day hikes the Catamounts probably more responsive and more suited for me! Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks Morgan 👍 Unfortunately all the manufacturers tend to pick one colour for the width fit option. It definitely has a daily trainer feel about it, solid and dependable! Catamount is quite a bit more responsive than the Cascadia that's for sure 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I just took this shoe (women's version) to the moderately muddy trail in Seven Sisters (UK) and was not impressed at all. While it was not slipping or sliding either on uphill, downhill or flat parts, it was not shedding (wet) mud. At all. And I wasn't even running (was hiking). I specifically watched soles of other hikers' shoes (there were lots of people on the trail in all kids of shoes). Yes, everyone had wet mud on their soles, but not to the extent my Brooks had. The mud was sticking out from below the sides and the backs of each shoe. While shoes remained grippy (not sure how they managed that considering the soles looked like two big mud cakes, with no lugs visible), that mud added so much extra weight to my feet! :( When mud had dried, the soles did shed it quite well. Also breathability is very questionable :( I specifically bought them because they were non-Gortex (so supposedly more breathable), but within 4 hours of hiking not in hot weather (c. +17C) my (merino wool) socks were wet with sweat. I did the same trail last year in goretex Salomon XUltra 3's in +22C, in the sun, with much heavier backpack and after 8 hours my socks were still completely dry.
I've got to be honest Warren I found the Mazamas a bit strange? 🤔 It was to firm under foot for me and the grip in the wet was lethal 😲 That's the great thing about running shoes, it's so personal and what suits one won't suit another 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure That’s an interesting comment you make about the Mazama’s. I had a pair of Mazama 1 which I took to 407 miles before my 5th toe appeared through the upper! Most of those miles were parkrun between about March-November while conditions were dry, although I never felt they would ever lose grip in the wet. From a fit perspective, the Mazama was far superior to the Pure Grit 7 that replaced them. The Burrito tongue on the PG7 never felt right to me, so I’m looking forward to trying the Catamounts that everyone seems to rave about! Great channel by the way👍
Hope you are enjoying your Peregrine 11's Christopher. Hopefully a big improvement when it comes to stability and grip on the trails compared to your Pegasus Trail 2! The biggest difference is the Cascadia 16 is a much wider, deeper shoe and I personally think the Peregrine feels a bit more responsive and nimble 🤔 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Oooh - so close to making it top of the list for replacing my Speedgoat 3s. But also have narrow foot! May still give them a try though - the women’s shoe might come up narrower.
If you're narrow Kate it's definitely not the shoe for you! 😔 You might be better off waiting for the new Speedgoat 5 that's due out at the end of the year. That is if its not delayed because of all the madness in the world at the moment. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure noted, thank you! I really loved my speedgoats for dry trails, but with the recent ankle sprains, am now veering away from loads of cushioning. Feels physically and psychologically reassuring being closer to the ground!
I had the Cascadia 12 for the snowdon marathon. I’ve moved away from them and short of proper fell shoes, I’m yet to find a shoe as comfortable. It’s getting difficult to find higher drop shoes nowadays.
You are right, there's not many trail shoes with higher heel off sets these days. A lot of the reasoning behind it is that some times a heel can get in the way on the trails and cause stability issue on uneven ground 👍 The lower the heel the more level you are on foot strike, the more planted you should feel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Definitely a big improvement Stu 👍 I know what you mean about Brooks shoes, they're solid and dependable but not that exciting to run in 🤔 Hope you are fit and well and thanks for watching mate 🙏
Loving my buff that is not a Bufff ... I am looking for a good pair of shoes from my new running friend here in France. Will send him this video, but steering him towards Saucony Peregrine or Hoka Challenger ATR or Torrent --- lots of road before trail.
Cheers Grant, thanks for sharing the video. Really glad you're enjoying your Buff that's not a Buff and thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
You could definitely run 100 miles on a Cascadia 16 Tim. Obviously when you are running those kind of distances shoe choice is very personal. I'd always recommend trying lots on so you can get the right fit when it comes to running 100 miles. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Thanks Marisa 👍 Really glad you enjoyed the video. I would probably go for the Jackal because it fits my footshape a bit better. I found the Cascadia a bit wide for me and my foot did move around a bit in the upper. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I personally still prefer the Peregrine 11 Scott. The Peregrine definitely works better for my foot shape so I feel a lot more connected to the shoe and more stable on technical trails. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
Not really Ellis, I'd say the Cascadia is firmer than both of those trail shoes 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Oh right ok, I can't recall if you reviewed the Salomon Ultra 3 but any thoughts vs that? At this point we should have a "Squish-O-Meter" or something to rank everything up!
@@ellismccoy I haven't tested the S Lab Ultra, sorry I thought you meant the Ultra Glide! I'd say the Cascadia is a bit softer than the S Lab Ultra but there's not much in it. I love the sound of the squish-O-meter though!! 😂
Funny, I just watched another review that said he didn't like the narrow fit of the shoe while you don't like the wide fit... I have a wide midfoot and these are perfect for me.
Obviously it all comes down to personal foot shape bit it's definitely not a narrow shoe! The Cascadia has a lot of width and volume in the toe box and like you said, go width at the midfoot 👍 Thanks for watching and I'm glad you are enjoying the Cascadias 😊
In comparison to the saucony peregrines, hoka speed goats, altra lone peaks, the cascadias are built to last far far longer, these brooks will take a beating and keep performing. The shoe is not too wide in the heel. It cups and holds the heels in far better then a saucony or altra.
They are definitely a durable shoe Nick but that does make them quite heavy. Unfortunately I found them a bit to wide for my foot shape so it was hard to lock the upper down 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏
@@Run4Adventure interesting, for me I find that little extra room in the front nice, and the heel I think locks in pretty nice. I really like the saucony peregrines and altra lone peaks but I find they allow a lot of heel slippage and I end up with blisters. The brooks just work for me i guess as a go to shoe, especially for climbing. And I did find that the brooks last a long time in comparison to some of my softer shoes, especially on rocky terrain.
I think it's the best version of the shoe to date 👍 Really glad you're enjoying your Cascadia and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Saw these in pb running, they certainly catch your eye, but I've heard they're slippy in the wet. I'm tempted to give the ghost a try as a daily. Edit - he's not using the runners knot, blasphemy!!!!!
It's definitely a bright running shoe Darren! I haven't used them in proper wet, muddy conditions yet but its been fine on everything else grip wise. Like everything in running, it's super personal and the runners knot has never worked for me. I actually think if you have to use the runners knot then you're in the wrong shoe because it doesn't fit your foot shape right 👍 When ever I've had to use the runners knot it's just caused damage to the top of the foot because the laces are to locked down. That's one thing I've learnt over all the years I've been running is that what works for one won't work for another! 😊 Thanks for watching 🙏
Loyd, I agree that it's a great shoe, but I'd say the shoe isn't all that wide at the toes; loved that shoe (C16) but it punched my big toe and pinky in the box, too tight. :(
I suppose that depends on your foot shape and width Eric 🤔 Obviously being in a running shop every day and looking at and selling lots of different shoe brands and models I can definitely say the Cascadia 16 is wide compared to a lot of trail running shoes out there at the moment 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure oh you’re reviews help big time and watch you’re reviews more then any other!! But I’ve ordered the saucony xodus ultra and the brooks cascade’s to see which I like better but thanks again for the reviews and reply.
100 % agree on fit. I am a wide fitted chap and these are great BUT I had to get a wide. I probably could have stuck with the standard width but have a bit of hammer toe creeping in on my right foot. However in general, as you say, for those who look for a narrow fit (or shy away from an Altra fit) these will not work
Not really sure what you mean Ian!? The channel is definitely a British channel because I live in Britain but its also watch by viewers all over the world! Its funny you should say that because the biggest percentage of viewers actually come from the USA, funny that 😊 No one is forcing you to watch the channel, if you don't like it, don't watch 👍 Thanks for taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I got 2 pairs of these . One Gore tex version for winter running and one blue/lime pair for the rest of the year. These things are well built. Love them. Great review!
I'm glad you've found a shoe that really works for you Michael 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Fantastic review, Lloyd. I’m fan of Brooks Road Running shoes (Adrenaline’s) but I didn’t find good Brooks options for my trail runs in the past. Seems that these updated Cascadia 16 are something serious to think about. Thank you!
Thanks Andres, really glad you enjoyed the video 👍
It's a big update on the Cascadia 16 and it's definitely the best version of the shoe to date. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
cheers for the info, just ordered them and happy that they sound like a good shoe
good review
Hope you enjoy them and thanks for watching 👍🙂
Great review Lloyd. Appreciate the time and effort you put in to all of them. I bought the Cascadia 16s a couple of days before the RAT in August and they were great. Usually will get a wide 2E shoe but just got a 1/2 size bigger in normal width and the toebox is perfect for me. Took a little bit of fiddling to get the lacing right - I found that using the lower holes on the last eyelets really helped. They seem pretty bombproof but surprisingly feel light and responsive which is a great combo. Good work mate 👌
Thanks Alistair that's really kind and I'm glad you are enjoying the Content on the channel 😊
Great to hear that the Cascadia 16's are working well for you and well done on the Rat. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, happy running 🙏😊
Looks like a great daily trainer trail shoe. I saw this shoe in my local running store and was impressed. I've wanted a pair ever since then! Great review!
The Cascadia 16 would make a pretty solid daily trainer Chad 👍
It could be run all year round and it looks pretty solid in construction! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment mate 🙏
'Good width in the toebox'. A phrase that makes my Sunday afternoon.
With plenty of gusseted tongue no doubt 😉
I'm glad I made you Sunday and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
yeah they have a wider toebox, but if you have wide feet (like me), you can also get these in 2E width (in the grey version). thats what I went for, and they are extreemely comfortable ! I bought both the D width and 2E width, and then decided to return the D width.
Me too, all these trail shoes squash my toes
Thanks for the review. I've been growing frustrated, trying to find an Altra alternative. I have the lone peaks but they are not cushiony enough and the Olympus doesn't work for me. It hurts my feet.
I just ordered some of these cascadias and hopefully they are wide enough for me. Thanks for putting together the video
No problem Tim 👍
The Cascadia is a wide shoe, maybe not as wide as an Altra but it's got good space and volume in the toe. Hope the shoes work out for you and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great to see Lloyd back at it reviewing shoes. My La Sportiva Karacal's are near the end of there life. This along with some of Lloyds other favourites will be considered.
Cheers Shaun that's really appreciated and it's so good to be back running again! 😁
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
I need to come down and try these when I get a chance. Have been running in the 14 and the 15 and these sound like exactly the tweaks I'd want from an update!
Definitely pop in and try them on Billy. I personally think it's a good update to the Cascadia 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The best review Loyd!!! I borrow cascadia 16 from a friend and I had the same problem. It was a great shoe but not for my foot shape (I've narrow foot). It was impossible to control them in technical steep downhills because my foot was sliding insight the shoe. Solution: buy women's version. It is narrower, 15g lighter and my foot is not moving. You should try it!
Thanks Esteban, glad you enjoyed it. It's definitely a wide shoe and I did really struggle with movement in the shoe. Well done for getting the women's shoe, good thinking 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
Another great review. Well, done. How did you like this compared to the TOPO Mountain Racer 2.
Keep up the great reviews and hope your recovery continues.
Thanks Stanley, really glad you enjoyed it. The two shoes actually have a lot in common. The biggest difference between them would be the Topo has a bit more width in the toe box and a little bit less heel off set. Apart from that they run quite similar. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
I just bought a 2nd pair of these Gore Tex Cascadia16's....I have been beating snot out of my 1st pair and they are well built. I figure they will eventually wear out and I want to have a spare pair when that happens. I use mine on fire roads, railroad tracks, light trails & hills. They work really well at that. I would hike mountains in them if it was all I had and I’m sure they would be capable of that. ….but (I prefer a hiking boot for that activity). The Gore tex version of the cascadia 16 is my go -to winter running shoe, good grip on icy roads and my feet stay warm and dry. I really like the DNA loft 2 cushioning. It makes the shoe feel responsive. My New Balance Hierro V6 fresh foams feel too spongy on the trails. Different shoes for different terrain and purposes. Its nice to have choices. I will still give the Cascadia 16’s 5 stars overall for an affordable, rugged, capable, package.
Really glad you are getting on with your Cascadia 16's Michael 👍
It's definitely the best Cascadia to date in my opinion. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Love Brooks, it looks a massive improvement on the 14. I skipped the 15 in favour of something more comfortable and practice.
It's definitely a big improvement on the previous Cascadia models Julian. I still think there's better trail shoes out there but it's a big step in the right direction for Brooks 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
I’m a 2E width, with flat feet so these are added to short list now. Thanks for the review
They will work great Simon.
I'm the same.
Generally I wear a 9 or 9.5 and I got a 10 Wide (however I do like a lot of space for swelling)
Same here 2E duck feet used to Altra for trails. Could these be it?
It's a pretty wide fitting shoe Simon so I'm sure they'd be a good fit. I'm not sure they are as wide as an Altra but pretty close 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I'd say they're not quite as wide as an Altra but pretty close Ruel 👍
The colours and design are lush. Hopefully the performance matches the appearance. I'm loving the Fenix head torch btw Loyd 👍🏻🏃♂️ In the intro, where it says what do you run for, I always say to myself I'm searching for the missing question mark lol. Great review dude 😁👍🏻
Thanks very much It's a good looking shoe Mark 😎
Really glad you are enjoying your Fenix torch! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
wow that rubberband that hold the laces...brilliant
So simple but a great idea to stop the laces getting caught up while you're out on the trails! Thanks for watching Dragan, it's really appreciated 🙏
Finally😁. I have been waiting for this review, thanks Mr. Purvis!
Sorry it took so long Michael, it's hard getting the miles in when you're injured! 😊
Really hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure glad to see that you're getting stronger. 💪🏼
I have been eyeing this pair for some time, now just need to convince my wife why I need them😁
More power to your channel Lloyd 👌🏼
Keep running 🏃♂️
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Many thanks Michael 👍
Nice review sir.. What would you recommend for a good door to trail shoe?
Theres quite a few shoes that will do that nowadays, including the Cascadia 16 👍
Here's a few to look at -
Hoka Speedgoat 4
Hoka Torrent 2
Salomon Sense Ride 4
Salomon Ultra Glide
The North Face VECTIV infinite
New Balance Hierro V6
Inov-8 Trailfly ultra G 300
A lot of these shoes have reviews on the channel if you wanted to check them out 😊
Thanks for watching and I hope this helps 🙏
Great review again Loyd. My foot shape is similar to yours so it’s good to know they fit wide. Hope the recovery back is going well. Patience is the key. Cheers. Dave
It's definitely a pretty roomy shoe Dave. The recovery is going well thanks (touch wood) Definitely going to be very patient for the rest of the year and just build back slowly 😊
Thanks for supporting the channel mate 🙏
Looks great and a great review too 👍🏻 Would you say it would be alright with a little road running too? just for those races that are a mix or road and trail. Thanks.
Thanks Martyn, glad you enjoyed the video. The Cascadia can definitely handle a bit of road in between the trails or on those multi terrain races. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Another great review! I would really like to see Scarpa Ribelle Run on the channel. I heard that the grip on them is one of the best.
Thanks very much I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Scarpa are starting to make some decent trail running shoes so I'm sure they'll appear on the channel soon! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
Cool colours and a great looking shoe. Not sure if it's for me. Thanks for another informative video Loyd.
It sure is a good looking shoe Roland. It's a big improvement on the previous Cascadia models but I still think the Peregrine is a better shoe. Thanks for watching and supporting as always 🙏😊
Hi! Great review. Do you recommend this shoe for a 100k race like CCC? How about Salomon Ultra Glide and Hoka Speedgoat 5? What shoe would you choose for this race?
Thanks for your time and congratulations for your channel.
You could use the Cascadia for the CCC. It's a pretty wide fitting shoe so a lot of it depends on your foot shape. I would personally go for the Ultra Glide or the Speedgoat 👍
I used the Speedgoat 3 when I ran UTMB and it worked really well. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thanks a lot for your answer :)
Nice review! Which is better the trail shoe: brooks cascadia or saucony peregrine?
Thanks Henry, I'm glad yoy enjoyed the video. The new Cascadia 16 is a really good version of the shoe but I'd personally go for the Peregrine. The Peregrine feels a bit more nimble and it fits my foot shape better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Top review Loyd👍👍 I will consider these since my footshape is more on the wider side 🤩🤞😎
Thanks Roland 👍
Hope you guys are fit and well. We love seeing all your pictures from your adventures, keep them coming! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Great Video.!! This or the Brooks Catamount ?? i.e. for fast steep downhill loose rock/gravel trails (in the dry)
Thanks I'm glad you think so! If you're looking for a fast, nimble trail shoe it would have to be the Catamount 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Thanks mate - appreciated ! I decided to get the Cascadia 16 in the end (as the lugs are deeper, and so far so good on the steep trails - love them !! : )
Great review as we’ve all become used to Loyd, quick Qn, have you heard of a release date yet for the speedboat 5? Still holding out hope for a return to a slightly wider fit 🤞🏻
Cheers Jon, glad you enjoyed the video. The Speedgoat 5 is due out at the end of the year. However I have heard rumours that it might be a bit delayed, due to all the madness going on in the world at the moment! Hope this helps Jon and thanks for supporting the channel as always its appreciated 🙏😊
How are they for just hiking - not running? Planning to hike in dry, rocky conditions, with some inclines - some even steep. Been researching and I think I want to try these. Will be traveling to a big park and hiking for several days. Stability good for hikes? Thanks!
Awesome review mate. I was checking these out today at a local race event. I have a wider foot and the 15s fit like a glove but I found them a bit heavy so never bought them. With the 8mm drop do you notice the high heel? I recently got a Merrells shoe with a 10mm drop. Felt good in store but on the trails they are dicey running downhills at speed and now I’m hesitate to consider bigger drops but I really like where brooks shoes are going. got a big event I’m training for in October and considering a new shoe. Currently I run in saucony tr mad rivers (still I know) which are near death. Unfortunately the xodus ultras my pinky is hard up on the side of the shoe otherwise it would have be a no brainer
Thanks Troy, glad you enjoyed the video. I'm not a fan of a high off set on a trail shoe and I'd definitely go no higher than 8mm 👍
The Cascadia didn't feel high in heel and its nice and roomy in the toe box, Infact a bit to wide for my foot shape. It's a shame the Xodus Ultras didn't work for your footshape, it's a great trail shoe! Hole this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Thinking of getting these for hiking. Would they work well?
Great video. Question - Brooks Cascadia 16 or Nike Pegasus 3? I do a half pavement half trail in a single run. But tend to get achy legs as I'm an old git.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The Pegasus is definitely more cushioned underfoot so it handles the road sections really well. It depends how technical the trails are you run because the grip isn't great on the Nike shoe! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thank you Sir. I will go with the Nike and give that a try. Suspect I will get into Brooks at some stage!
Width in the mid-foot... sold! Hopefully this will be my ARC / long winter coast path shoe.
If you need width it's definitely a wide fitting shoe 👍
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So you think it could cope with the odd stretch of road between trail sections or the couple of miles of tarmac that you have to run to get to the trails?
I think it crosses over fine Mark for a bit of tarmac. Obviously this is a personal thing and it really depends on how much soft cushioning you want under your foot on the road?
I'd always recommend trying some on first if you can? Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
I bought cascadia 14 for hicking should i go for 16 or there is no much difference
Good luck coming back from injury!! I was so looking forward to the 16. Tried them on yesterday and they are just too wide. Booooo!! The 15 wasn't at all but that shoe wasn't thrilling. Back to La Sportiva Mutant a great supportive shoe for narrowish feet and various terrains.
Thanks Jeff, it's great to be back and long may it continue 😊
The Cascadia 16 is a wide fitting shoe that's for sure. If you've got narrow feet it doesn't really work depending on how technical the trails are you run obviously. The Mutant is a good winter shoe, especially if you are quite narrow. I've never really got on with it, it feels a bit to firm for me underfoot and a bit to stiff in the midsole 🤔
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I run throughout the winter months when there is ice and snow on the road surface. Do you think this shoe would give me a much better grip than a normal running shoe? Would the sole breakdown fast if running on concrete/tarmac surfaces? Thank you.
It's a grippy trail shoe Ken but I'm not sure many shoes can grip icey roads unless they've got spikes in the outsole. Having never run the shoe in snow or on ice it's impossible for me to say how the grip would perform. Also the lugs would wear down a lot quicker if you were just running on tarmac and concrete 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Sure ...get the Gore tex version and you'll do fine.
Updated to the 16 from the 15 a couple of months back. Much prefer the 15 if I’m honest. Pivot posts in the 15 make a difference (for me), too much foot movement in the 16 and I cannot keep them tight on my foot at all. A step backwards in my opinion. Hope the 17 version is better. On a positive though they are softer which I quite like but that’s about it.
Done just over 100 miles in them so far, all off-road.
The Cascadia 15 was a much narrower more fitted shoe when it comes to fit wasn't it Mike. Thats probably why you're getting some movement in the 16 it's a much wider fit in general! 🤔
I actually like all the other changes to the shoe but unfortunately it just doesn't work for my foot shape. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Good video. Better than the peregrines?
I only tried these on in my local store and ran around in them in store. So I can't really talk about what they are like after a few miles or even once you get them out in the woods. I do own the peregrine 10 and have quite a few miles on them. For me, they are very different shoes. The cascadia is directed more at running along on smooth trails, rolling hills, etc. Whereas the pergerine (and again, for me) is very good at quick, grippy attack style runs through whatever you can throw at them, mud, rocks, roots, water, snow, loose terrain, but are not my first choice for the buffed out, rolling hills types of trail runs. I ended up buying altra timps (which, I absolutely love, but come with their own set of issues.) I wanted to add a zero drop, wider shoe to my trail rotation and needed something to replace the road to trail spot). I have somewhat of a normal food and run in all kinds of hokas, saucony, skechers, etc, but I will say that (again, for me) the fit of the cascadia was not wide and quite uncomfortable, I know it's very subjective, but the shoe felt very boxy, clunky, almost work boot like. I do love a nice durable trail shoe that breaks in and "loosens up" nicely, so hopefully that is the case here, but it was enough to put them right back in the box in the store.
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed the video. Its a good improvement but I'd still pick the Peregrine before the Cascadia 16. The Peregrine fits my foot shape better so I feel a lot more connected to the upper and a lot more stable on technical trails 👍
Hope this helps John and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Beautiful review as always Loyd, my opinion is incredibly similar to yours, the width of the forefoot does not allow me to feel confident in the technical areas, as much as i can tighten the laces. I would like to see it thinner, with a drop of 6 mm and vibram megagrip. Then it would be the perfect all-round shoe. For now I have found a similar set in the Scarpa Rapid (it's a run/fast hiking shoe i Know but try to belive) and in 10 years I tried a lot of shoes
It's definitely a wide fitting shoe Marco. I didn't really have any issues with the heel off set but I do like a 4mm or 6mm off set on my trail shoes. A trail shoe would always be better with Vibram Megagrip on the outsole that's for sure Marco 😉
I've been hearing lots of good things about the Scarpa trail shoes so I'll have to get some to try! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I think you should love the Rapid, it's very similar to the Peregrine 10 with more secure fit (not like the11) and little more cushioning and response. Recovers quickly and good runs!!!
@@marcopalombini4732
I'll definitely check them out Marco 👍😊
Seeing these on offer right now and tempted. Good marathon shoe?
If it's a trail marathon then yes, the Cascadia can definitely handle that 👍
Hey Lloyd,
Have you had a chance to run in the Brooks Catamount as a comparison? They are lighter and look pretty good from the reviews I have seen. My favorite trail shoe has been the Evo Speedgoat. Much lighter, wider and less rigid upper than SG4. I cant find them anywhere as old now and no stock. And not sure if a new version is ever coming, or whether Hoka just replaced it with Mafate collection. I have the Mafate 2 and they are nowhere near as nice as the Evo Speedgoat. Heavier, more rigid feeling outsole and does not have the rocker shape.
No I haven't run in the Catamount but it's a much lighter and more nimble shoe than the Cascadia. Unfortunately it doesn't have much lug on the outsole so it's not much good this time of the year in the UK. A lot of runners loved the Evo Speedgoat, unfortunately Hoka have stopped making it so they are hard to find nowadays 🤔
It's funny that people say it was wider because the Evo wasn't actually wider it just used a different fabric on the upper. The Speedgoat 5 should be along soon hopefully, December time if it's not delayed? Apparently its a combination of the Speedgoat 4 and the Evo so I've got my fingers crossed it runs more like the Speedgoat 3's 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Hope this helps Joel and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
How long does the shoe last? When does the sole start to wear off?
Nice review mate could only get two colours & only the grey in wide? Feels a bit boxy to me and still a bit heavy but still a good shoe doesn’t do anything wrong or exciting the Toyota Camry of trail shoes 😂will use it as a recovery shoe or day hikes the Catamounts probably more responsive and more suited for me! Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks Morgan 👍
Unfortunately all the manufacturers tend to pick one colour for the width fit option. It definitely has a daily trainer feel about it, solid and dependable! Catamount is quite a bit more responsive than the Cascadia that's for sure 👍
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I just took this shoe (women's version) to the moderately muddy trail in Seven Sisters (UK) and was not impressed at all. While it was not slipping or sliding either on uphill, downhill or flat parts, it was not shedding (wet) mud. At all. And I wasn't even running (was hiking). I specifically watched soles of other hikers' shoes (there were lots of people on the trail in all kids of shoes). Yes, everyone had wet mud on their soles, but not to the extent my Brooks had. The mud was sticking out from below the sides and the backs of each shoe. While shoes remained grippy (not sure how they managed that considering the soles looked like two big mud cakes, with no lugs visible), that mud added so much extra weight to my feet! :( When mud had dried, the soles did shed it quite well. Also breathability is very questionable :( I specifically bought them because they were non-Gortex (so supposedly more breathable), but within 4 hours of hiking not in hot weather (c. +17C) my (merino wool) socks were wet with sweat. I did the same trail last year in goretex Salomon XUltra 3's in +22C, in the sun, with much heavier backpack and after 8 hours my socks were still completely dry.
In terms of looks and performance, I really miss my Mazama's. That was a quality fast day shoe.
I've got to be honest Warren I found the Mazamas a bit strange? 🤔
It was to firm under foot for me and the grip in the wet was lethal 😲
That's the great thing about running shoes, it's so personal and what suits one won't suit another 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure That’s an interesting comment you make about the Mazama’s. I had a pair of Mazama 1 which I took to 407 miles before my 5th toe appeared through the upper!
Most of those miles were parkrun between about March-November while conditions were dry, although I never felt they would ever lose grip in the wet. From a fit perspective, the Mazama was far superior to the Pure Grit 7 that replaced them. The Burrito tongue on the PG7 never felt right to me, so I’m looking forward to trying the Catamounts that everyone seems to rave about!
Great channel by the way👍
Great review
Thanks very much, really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I looked at these to replace the Pegasus trail 2. I really like the bright colour way. In the end I chose the Peregrine 11s. How do they compare?
Hope you are enjoying your Peregrine 11's Christopher. Hopefully a big improvement when it comes to stability and grip on the trails compared to your Pegasus Trail 2! The biggest difference is the Cascadia 16 is a much wider, deeper shoe and I personally think the Peregrine feels a bit more responsive and nimble 🤔
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thanks for your reply. Yes it does help, I now feel I chose the the correct pair! 👌👌
Oooh - so close to making it top of the list for replacing my Speedgoat 3s. But also have narrow foot! May still give them a try though - the women’s shoe might come up narrower.
If you're narrow Kate it's definitely not the shoe for you! 😔
You might be better off waiting for the new Speedgoat 5 that's due out at the end of the year. That is if its not delayed because of all the madness in the world at the moment. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure noted, thank you! I really loved my speedgoats for dry trails, but with the recent ankle sprains, am now veering away from loads of cushioning. Feels physically and psychologically reassuring being closer to the ground!
@@kateludlam7379
I think being lower to the ground while you're recovering would be a good idea Kate 👍
Personally love my Xodus 11. I may try these on for future though.
Glad you're getting on with your Xodus 11's Robert 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I had the Cascadia 12 for the snowdon marathon. I’ve moved away from them and short of proper fell shoes, I’m yet to find a shoe as comfortable. It’s getting difficult to find higher drop shoes nowadays.
You are right, there's not many trail shoes with higher heel off sets these days. A lot of the reasoning behind it is that some times a heel can get in the way on the trails and cause stability issue on uneven ground 👍
The lower the heel the more level you are on foot strike, the more planted you should feel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Certainly looks like an improvement on previous versions. Never been a Brooks fan, something about their shoes just doesn't do it for me.
Definitely a big improvement Stu 👍
I know what you mean about Brooks shoes, they're solid and dependable but not that exciting to run in 🤔
Hope you are fit and well and thanks for watching mate 🙏
Loving my buff that is not a Bufff ... I am looking for a good pair of shoes from my new running friend here in France. Will send him this video, but steering him towards Saucony Peregrine or Hoka Challenger ATR or Torrent --- lots of road before trail.
Cheers Grant, thanks for sharing the video. Really glad you're enjoying your Buff that's not a Buff and thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏😊
Is this a good ultra shoe? I'm after a 100mile ultra shoe or two to try ?
You could definitely run 100 miles on a Cascadia 16 Tim. Obviously when you are running those kind of distances shoe choice is very personal. I'd always recommend trying lots on so you can get the right fit when it comes to running 100 miles. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
hello, i'm a portuguese trailler, like to watch your reviews... can you tell me wich is you choise? cascadia 16 or la sportiva jackal?
Thanks Marisa 👍
Really glad you enjoyed the video. I would probably go for the Jackal because it fits my footshape a bit better. I found the Cascadia a bit wide for me and my foot did move around a bit in the upper. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Need your help bro.
Cascadia 16 vs asics trabuco 11 weight? Stack height?
Thanks in advance!
I’ve reviewed both shoes on the channel, all that information is in the videos 👍🙂
Owh.. it's a separate video..cascadia 16 looks tough..trabuco 11 looks comfort..I think I should try both first..thanks man 👍
My wide feet adore it! Thanks for the review 😊
Of you've got a wide foot shape the Cascadia 16 is a good choice. Really glad you are enjoying your shoes and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure besides, as I live in Greece, all trails are like super rocky, so the protection is more than welcome 😉
How do you feel this shoe compare to the peregrine 11?
I personally still prefer the Peregrine 11 Scott. The Peregrine definitely works better for my foot shape so I feel a lot more connected to the shoe and more stable on technical trails. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
Where would you say the cushion lies between say, a Salomon Glide and a Hoka Speedgoat?
Not really Ellis, I'd say the Cascadia is firmer than both of those trail shoes 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Oh right ok, I can't recall if you reviewed the Salomon Ultra 3 but any thoughts vs that?
At this point we should have a "Squish-O-Meter" or something to rank everything up!
@@ellismccoy
I haven't tested the S Lab Ultra, sorry I thought you meant the Ultra Glide! I'd say the Cascadia is a bit softer than the S Lab Ultra but there's not much in it. I love the sound of the squish-O-meter though!! 😂
Cascadia 17 review time😊
Funny, I just watched another review that said he didn't like the narrow fit of the shoe while you don't like the wide fit... I have a wide midfoot and these are perfect for me.
Obviously it all comes down to personal foot shape bit it's definitely not a narrow shoe! The Cascadia has a lot of width and volume in the toe box and like you said, go width at the midfoot 👍
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you are enjoying the Cascadias 😊
In comparison to the saucony peregrines, hoka speed goats, altra lone peaks, the cascadias are built to last far far longer, these brooks will take a beating and keep performing.
The shoe is not too wide in the heel. It cups and holds the heels in far better then a saucony or altra.
They are definitely a durable shoe Nick but that does make them quite heavy. Unfortunately I found them a bit to wide for my foot shape so it was hard to lock the upper down 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏
@@Run4Adventure interesting, for me I find that little extra room in the front nice, and the heel I think locks in pretty nice. I really like the saucony peregrines and altra lone peaks but I find they allow a lot of heel slippage and I end up with blisters. The brooks just work for me i guess as a go to shoe, especially for climbing. And I did find that the brooks last a long time in comparison to some of my softer shoes, especially on rocky terrain.
Love them!
I think it's the best version of the shoe to date 👍
Really glad you're enjoying your Cascadia and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏
Saw these in pb running,
they certainly catch your eye, but I've heard they're slippy in the wet.
I'm tempted to give the ghost a try as a daily.
Edit - he's not using the runners knot, blasphemy!!!!!
I mainly run in Salomon but damn I never knew about the running knot and will employ with the few lace up shoes I have!
It's definitely a bright running shoe Darren! I haven't used them in proper wet, muddy conditions yet but its been fine on everything else grip wise. Like everything in running, it's super personal and the runners knot has never worked for me. I actually think if you have to use the runners knot then you're in the wrong shoe because it doesn't fit your foot shape right 👍
When ever I've had to use the runners knot it's just caused damage to the top of the foot because the laces are to locked down. That's one thing I've learnt over all the years I've been running is that what works for one won't work for another! 😊
Thanks for watching 🙏
@Run4Adventure How very true, I'm lazy so go for elastic laces, I get on fine but I'm sure there will be a few, that won't like how they can pinch.
Loyd, I agree that it's a great shoe, but I'd say the shoe isn't all that wide at the toes; loved that shoe (C16) but it punched my big toe and pinky in the box, too tight. :(
I suppose that depends on your foot shape and width Eric 🤔
Obviously being in a running shop every day and looking at and selling lots of different shoe brands and models I can definitely say the Cascadia 16 is wide compared to a lot of trail running shoes out there at the moment 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Do the mafate 3’s fit similar?
Sorry Jeff I have no idea, I've not run in the Mafate 3's before? 🤔
Sorry I can't help, thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure oh you’re reviews help big time and watch you’re reviews more then any other!! But I’ve ordered the saucony xodus ultra and the brooks cascade’s to see which I like better but thanks again for the reviews and reply.
@@snowbdr89 No problem Jeff, thanks for watching and I hope you find a shoe that works well for you 👍😊
100 % agree on fit.
I am a wide fitted chap and these are great BUT I had to get a wide.
I probably could have stuck with the standard width but have a bit of hammer toe creeping in on my right foot.
However in general, as you say, for those who look for a narrow fit (or shy away from an Altra fit) these will not work
Glad you agree Rich 👍
It's definitely a shoe with plenty of volume! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
same here man, i also went for the 2E wide too, as I had some minor toe rub on the D's... in 2E they are amazing !!
Don't like the American vocabulary at the start surly this is a British channel
Not really sure what you mean Ian!? The channel is definitely a British channel because I live in Britain but its also watch by viewers all over the world! Its funny you should say that because the biggest percentage of viewers actually come from the USA, funny that 😊
No one is forcing you to watch the channel, if you don't like it, don't watch 👍
Thanks for taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
American vocabulary? It's all English...They speak English!😁
Narrow foot eh ?… lucky chap… you have plenty of choice 😂 you won’t get any sympathy from me! 😝