I guess what impresses me the most is that the information you are sharing with us is being gathered and published by a relatively small group of academics. Kudos to everyone who is out there in the field, gathering samples, mapping and then doing the lab work, then publishing in order to improve our knowledge. Well done to everyone who shares their knowledge with Nick, who does a great job of making this information available, and understandable to the general public!
Fantastic video and lots of food for thought. Grandpa Carl is a real treasure. I was lucky enough to spend an afternoon with him and the Mrs. After we shook hands, it was like we had been friends forever. They were very hospitable and Carl was gracious enough to give me a tour of most of the area. We had a great time at the clay pits and he explained a lot. Folks, if you get a chance to meet him, don't pass it up. He's really a good guy. And thanks for all you do for us Nick. Be well.
Want to thank you for all the content the last couple years. It's been something to look forward to throughout the pandemic. I'm currently rewatching the Eocene and surprised how much I've already forgotten. Suffice to say, the Pacific had a lot going on by itself, and then here comes this bulldozer from the east. Often you compliment your well-behaved and well-informed audience, but you're the honey that attracts all us flies out here. So, have a great summer, honey.
Been watching a lot of your older vids recently, and I was so pleased and surprised to see this pop up on my feed. Thank you, as always, for your presentations!
Nick I love how you show and teach us the majesty and peel back the mystery of your geologicly rich state.You are unique and a treasure to those of us who look at a land scape and wonder why. Thanks.
Thank you for the clear speak walk and talk. The camera you used today is absolutely amazing. Could almost think you were flying a drone. Thank you, Nick.
Thank you Nick for a great synopsis of what other geologists have found out about the Snake river and why it does have the perfect name! The view there is absolutely breathtaking!
I'm putting in fenceposts at a location about 500 feet above the Okanogan River and in some places gravel bars are exposed on the slopes but on the flatter ground the gravel is about 36 to 42 inches deep. Its a mixture of sand up to 4" round cobbles.
Very imposing landscape. To me It seems difficult to imagine these vast areas being uplifted to their modern elevation and stages in between. Many thanks as usual for a thought provoking video. Happy Sunday morning.
Cool! Thanks Nick for another cool geohike! Always good to get an update on newer info. Researchers are finding lots of good uses for zircon dating! Great way to back up existing work!
That is fascinating to learn about. Snake river used to go up the East side of the Bitterroots. Crazy how far a river can change it's course. Thanks for the info and the amazing scenery Nick.
what a story about the snake river being here for millions of years. thats the best. and the tenacity of the research to find the evidence. Geology never dissappoints.
bird boy . . . muffler boy :) another fun outing with the prof. Good paper and incite presented on the "sand" concept of the Snake River. thru Hell's Canyon.. Beautiful pics. Thank you sir.'
Great and very interesting video.. I’ve learned more about Central Washington and it’s formations then I ever have in school. Keep up the amazing videos and content.
Love your videos. The first one I ever was the one you did years ago about the "Great Earthquakes of the Northwest". Accidently got hooked on the geology of that area when I saw a local program, while visiting Seattle in 2007, featuring the people who first postulated that a massive earthquake that hit the area in 1700. Enjoyed all the videos from you and other geologists at CWU and other Universities in the area. Keep up the great work!
The sand identification theory sounds fascinating. I look forward to learning more. Thanks for the scenic view of the Columbia. It's been dreary here all day. You brought some sun to Mother's Day!
Thank you, Nick. The central Washington country is beautiful. I'm interested in learning more about the different dating techniques, pros and cons, equipment and procedures (where available, expense, how long procedures take).... You are appreciated so much. 🤟
So we have moved on from looking for ghost volcanoes to looking for ghost rivers. Interesting to speculate how erosion deposits 'source' rocks in different patterns - presumably along the 'ghost' rivers. I do remember one You Tube where Nick was kicking Mt St. Helens ash deposits in Ellensburg - it might be interesting to see a map of those deposits now and how they are now concentrated in particular places from an initial roughly even coverage. Interesting stuff as always from Prof Zentner.
Hey, Nick... Very interesting vid, and some great vistas to boot!! Amazing the history that can be extracted by examining the different lines of evidence. You do a great job of explaining it, even if it might be something 'new' to you. Thanks!
We came over from Olympia area hoping you would have a popup somewhere near our route! If not, we have already seen Drumheller Channels and heading over to Palouse Falls. Then it's wine tasting in the Gorge!
OK, there are sand dunes at Mattawa creek south of Wanapum dam. Is that sand from the Snake R. Or from the Columbia R.?
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Thanks Nick! Many things to ponder here. I appreciate your thoughts and insights as always. I've been through this area many times over the years and never thought about the fact that the Snake River once came through here. Also, I've never climbed up top to the ridge you're on, so thanks for that too! Awesome views!
I just watched ancient Rivers of the Northwest before this and I was literally going to ask in the comments about the sand of saddle mountain. I've dug petrified wood on the top of saddle mountain and on the end of saddle mountain at the Columbia River you see that beautiful golden sand just pouring out.
What was the driving mechanism that uplifted Saddle Mtn? It’s GCC correct? Was there a Miocene “Hells Canyon” through the Bitterroot Range that eventually uplifted faster than erosion?
Intriguing idea - I hope you can flesh it out a bit more in a future presentation. In the meantime, I always enjoy the vistas. I live on the flats at 837 feet in Minneapolis, and have to drive a couple hours southeast to the "driftless area" and the bluffs along the Mississippi to get a similar grand view.
This was so interesting. Just imagine Snake River being there!! Seems like the Snake really gets around. What are those flat white things along the edge of the Columbia? Maybe greenhouses??
Orchards with massive and vast tents of cloth over them. They can assist organic growers and conventional growers with eliminating insect and bird damage, providing shade if needed, etc. This is becoming a more common practice, and is easily seen along the Columbia River from Vernita Bridge, all the way north to the Okanogan Valley.
Great video, I love Saddle Mountain this time of the year. I was just out there Saturday through Sunday morning camping and taking photos. I might have seen your car on my way out. I’ll send you a photo or two by email.
I think the Snake River course at 8Ma makes sense if you consider the Yellowstone hot spot would have created a high point West of where it was trying to flow so it had to find a way around.
Another great place for me to explore when I visit central WA in two weeks. Speaking of that, any pop-up geology events possible between between 05-22 and 05-28 while I'm town?
Interesting stuff, Professor. Do you have a more detailed map with the ancient route of the Snake River overlaying a modern map, especially in regards to the Idaho, Montana, Washington pathway?
Did Basin and Range cause the different paths of the Snake River? Did the Snake River have any interaction with the Salmon River or Clark River in Montana?
So the Old Snake is the present day Clark Fork, more or less. I can understand the with the the eastward bound Yellowstone hotspot that that can drastically change the flow of rivers. There is more to this for us to see. The Missouri, the Yellowstone. How does this effect the potential flow of the Paleo Bell River system (potential paleo Hudson Bay drainage)?
Great video, living in the Tri-cities I know this area. My question is, Is there any evidence that the Columbia and Snake rivers are still migrating? I know its a slow process over time but can it be detected now?
A new and interesting twist... Thanks! Is there a connection between Lydia's samples and that big pocket of sand at the base of Saddle Mtn (upstream face) next to the highway? I've always took it for granted that was loess.
Another very interesting video and on another area of Washington and Idaho that's always been near and dear to my heart the Snake River Country, including Hell's Canyon. Look forward to more on this discovery of the path of the Snake. Now I mention to you that I followed the link in your lecture on the Ice Burg Erractics to Bruce Bjornstad's paper on Ice-Rafted Erratics and I am sad to say it is German! I speak a little but do not read German. I commented to him in the comment thread of that lecture asking about it in English but did not get a reply. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I’m not up on the time scale of mountain range uplifting. What was the proposed Snake River route going north from southern Idaho, into Montana, then back across Idaho to get to Washington? Seems there would be traces of it along the way, if one knew what to look for? Was it thought to be in areas currently east of continental divide?
@@SusanS588 DOI=Digital Object Identifier. It's a way of identifying things in a computer system in a persistent fashion. Links to websites suffer from something called link rot. In other words they stop working as things about the internet change. Since academics like a persistent method of citing and finding material someone came up with DOI as a standard.
Oh , the lady that's tracking the zircons...why do I have a memory of her ? Did I see a video somewhere, maybe two years or more now ? Thank you, professor.
Hello Nick. Would the gap the Columbia flows through at this location be of similar origin to, say, the Wallula Gap, i.e the ice-age floods helped to carve through the higher elevations. Or is the ridge you are on recently uplifted and the Columbia has maintained its position?
Nick do you know any geologists working (currently or previously) in northern Utah? almost Idaho, not far from where lake Bonneville drained. i live here and would like to know more about what is surrounding me, similar to what you are teaching about Washington.
“I’m soaking it in boss. Soaking it in.” Thanks Nick. Breathtaking!!
Nick, we need to get you a 1977 VW Bus. They will literally go anywhere, plus you can sleep and camp in it. Thanks again for an amazing video!
I guess what impresses me the most is that the information you are sharing with us is being gathered and published by a relatively small group of academics.
Kudos to everyone who is out there in the field, gathering samples, mapping and then doing the lab work, then publishing in order to improve our knowledge.
Well done to everyone who shares their knowledge with Nick, who does a great job of making this information available, and understandable to the general public!
Started watching your videos over a year ago befor I moved to Washington, and now I'm hooked 😳
I can't picture it. Thank you for all your videos.
Fantastic video and lots of food for thought. Grandpa Carl is a real treasure. I was lucky enough to spend an afternoon with him and the Mrs. After we shook hands, it was like we had been friends forever. They were very hospitable and Carl was gracious enough to give me a tour of most of the area. We had a great time at the clay pits and he explained a lot. Folks, if you get a chance to meet him, don't pass it up. He's really a good guy. And thanks for all you do for us Nick. Be well.
Want to thank you for all the content the last couple years. It's been something to look forward to throughout the pandemic. I'm currently rewatching the Eocene and surprised how much I've already forgotten. Suffice to say, the Pacific had a lot going on by itself, and then here comes this bulldozer from the east. Often you compliment your well-behaved and well-informed audience, but you're the honey that attracts all us flies out here. So, have a great summer, honey.
Been watching a lot of your older vids recently, and I was so pleased and surprised to see this pop up on my feed. Thank you, as always, for your presentations!
Thank you Professor Zentner
nice surprise, not a mother but I will take the gift a walk and talk with Nick. Thank you, ALL stay safe.
I also thank you, your walks and talks ,
are terrific.
Nick I love how you show and teach us the majesty and peel back the mystery of your geologicly rich state.You are unique and a treasure to those of us who look at a land
scape and wonder why. Thanks.
Thank you for the clear speak walk and talk. The camera you used today is absolutely amazing. Could almost think you were flying a drone. Thank you, Nick.
We love you too Nick from Scott and Lily. We love your videos and we learn so much. Thank you!
Thank you Nick for a great synopsis of what other geologists have found out about the Snake river and why it does have
the perfect name! The view there is absolutely breathtaking!
I'm putting in fenceposts at a location about 500 feet above the Okanogan River and in some places gravel bars are exposed on the slopes but on the flatter ground the gravel is about 36 to 42 inches deep. Its a mixture of sand up to 4" round cobbles.
Love your lectures and videos. You are a great teacher. Thanks for posting.
As always Nick, love your content. Also love your method to digest new ideas. You have taught us so much from watching you learn. John Lasher
Gotta love a mystery that has one wondering how it's possible but there's just enough information that you can't leave it alone.
Very imposing landscape. To me It seems difficult to imagine these vast areas being uplifted to their modern elevation and stages in between.
Many thanks as usual for a thought provoking video. Happy Sunday morning.
Thanks, Professor, for placing us on the cutting edge.
Spectacular scenery love learning of this interesting river systems , thanks Nick!
I love info like this and I appreciate your videos and explanations
Cool! Thanks Nick for another cool geohike! Always good to get an update on newer info. Researchers are finding lots of good uses for zircon dating! Great way to back up existing work!
That is fascinating to learn about. Snake river used to go up the East side of the Bitterroots. Crazy how far a river can change it's course. Thanks for the info and the amazing scenery Nick.
what a story about the snake river being here for millions of years. thats the best. and the tenacity of the research to find the evidence. Geology never dissappoints.
bird boy . . . muffler boy :) another fun outing with the prof. Good paper and incite presented on the "sand" concept of the Snake River. thru Hell's Canyon.. Beautiful pics. Thank you sir.'
You got a down home simple way of talking about things that you are obviously very intelligent about. I watch a bunch of your old lectures.
A great way to start my morning off getting my mind off COVID. Keep up the great work. Thanks Nick
It’s been a couple days, and I’m still blown away that there’s evidence the Snake River once ran through Sentinel Gap! Wow!
Great and very interesting video.. I’ve learned more about Central Washington and it’s formations then I ever have in school. Keep up the amazing videos and content.
Love your videos. The first one I ever was the one you did years ago about the "Great Earthquakes of the Northwest". Accidently got hooked on the geology of that area when I saw a local program, while visiting Seattle in 2007, featuring the people who first postulated that a massive earthquake that hit the area in 1700. Enjoyed all the videos from you and other geologists at CWU and other Universities in the area. Keep up the great work!
Great study, great video, thanks so much!!!
The sand identification theory sounds fascinating. I look forward to learning more. Thanks for the scenic view of the Columbia. It's been dreary here all day. You brought some sun to Mother's Day!
Two topics for you: absolute age dating; zircon crystals containing uranium and lead.
Thank you Nick for keeping me grounded.. mention these sand as statistics for those that don't know.
Incredible view and another great story, thanks for sharing Nick
Thank you, Nick. The central Washington country is beautiful. I'm interested in learning more about the different dating techniques, pros and cons, equipment and procedures (where available, expense, how long procedures take).... You are appreciated so much. 🤟
Absolute Age Dating on UA-cam by Nick Zentner
Yes I've seen the Ancient Rivers lecture and all the other Downtown lectures--they've had a large impact on me
Wow pretty, let's look at River rocks ❤️
So we have moved on from looking for ghost volcanoes to looking for ghost rivers. Interesting to speculate how erosion deposits 'source' rocks in different patterns - presumably along the 'ghost' rivers. I do remember one You Tube where Nick was kicking Mt St. Helens ash deposits in Ellensburg - it might be interesting to see a map of those deposits now and how they are now concentrated in particular places from an initial roughly even coverage. Interesting stuff as always from Prof Zentner.
Hey, Nick... Very interesting vid, and some great vistas to boot!! Amazing the history that can be extracted by examining the different lines of evidence. You do a great job of explaining it, even if it might be something 'new' to you. Thanks!
We came over from Olympia area hoping you would have a popup somewhere near our route! If not, we have already seen Drumheller Channels and heading over to Palouse Falls. Then it's wine tasting in the Gorge!
OK, there are sand dunes at Mattawa creek south of Wanapum dam. Is that sand from the Snake R. Or from the Columbia R.?
Thanks Nick! Many things to ponder here. I appreciate your thoughts and insights as always. I've been through this area many times over the years and never thought about the fact that the Snake River once came through here. Also, I've never climbed up top to the ridge you're on, so thanks for that too! Awesome views!
Thanks Nick ...
Thanks Nick , this is great and I need to get over there soon.
Can’t wait for the update for Ocean rivers of the Pacific NW part two - updated information.
I just watched ancient Rivers of the Northwest before this and I was literally going to ask in the comments about the sand of saddle mountain. I've dug petrified wood on the top of saddle mountain and on the end of saddle mountain at the Columbia River you see that beautiful golden sand just pouring out.
Thanks Nick ❣️
What was the driving mechanism that uplifted Saddle Mtn? It’s GCC correct? Was there a Miocene “Hells Canyon” through the Bitterroot Range that eventually uplifted faster than erosion?
Thank you Nick!
Have you visited lower crab creek? Town closest is Smyrna. It is somewhere you might be interested in. Not far from where you are now.
Intriguing idea - I hope you can flesh it out a bit more in a future presentation. In the meantime, I always enjoy the vistas. I live on the flats at 837 feet in Minneapolis, and have to drive a couple hours southeast to the "driftless area" and the bluffs along the Mississippi to get a similar grand view.
Well how about that. Great work Lydia.
Thanks nick love your stuff
This was so interesting. Just imagine Snake River being there!! Seems like the Snake really gets around. What are those flat white things along the edge of the Columbia? Maybe greenhouses??
Orchards with massive and vast tents of cloth over them. They can assist organic growers and conventional growers with eliminating insect and bird damage, providing shade if needed, etc. This is becoming a more common practice, and is easily seen along the Columbia River from Vernita Bridge, all the way north to the Okanogan Valley.
@@annekennychapman2490 Thank you, that was quite informative .
@@annekennychapman2490 Thanks for the info Anne.😊
Great video, I love Saddle Mountain this time of the year. I was just out there Saturday through Sunday morning camping and taking photos. I might have seen your car on my way out. I’ll send you a photo or two by email.
Thank you, Nick
Looks very nice there cool geo. all so
I think the Snake River course at 8Ma makes sense if you consider the Yellowstone hot spot would have created a high point West of where it was trying to flow so it had to find a way around.
The Snake River has been to different locations around Idaho Falls. I know this due to the cobble stones two meters down under my home.
Another great place for me to explore when I visit central WA in two weeks. Speaking of that, any pop-up geology events possible between between 05-22 and 05-28 while I'm town?
Interesting stuff, Professor. Do you have a more detailed map with the ancient route of the Snake River overlaying a modern map, especially in regards to the Idaho, Montana, Washington pathway?
Ancient Rivers of the Pacific Northwest, a presentation by Nick Zentner on UA-cam.
Did Basin and Range cause the different paths of the Snake River? Did the Snake River have any interaction with the Salmon River or Clark River in Montana?
So the Old Snake is the present day Clark Fork, more or less. I can understand the with the the eastward bound Yellowstone hotspot that that can drastically change the flow of rivers. There is more to this for us to see. The Missouri, the Yellowstone. How does this effect the potential flow of the Paleo Bell River system (potential paleo Hudson Bay drainage)?
Great video, living in the Tri-cities I know this area. My question is, Is there any evidence that the Columbia and Snake rivers are still migrating? I know its a slow process over time but can it be detected now?
Looks like a good spot on calm nights for stargazing with binoculars or a telescope.
What a great way to talk about this topic on location!
Does anyone know what he white areas down by the river are?
Looks like you had some beautiful weather today. Upriver it was not as nice (Ancient Lake). Some weird weather!
A new and interesting twist... Thanks! Is there a connection between Lydia's samples and that big pocket of sand at the base of Saddle Mtn (upstream face) next to the highway? I've always took it for granted that was loess.
Another very interesting video and on another area of Washington and Idaho that's always been near and dear to my heart the Snake River Country, including Hell's Canyon. Look forward to more on this discovery of the path of the Snake. Now I mention to you that I followed the link in your lecture on the Ice Burg Erractics to Bruce Bjornstad's paper on Ice-Rafted Erratics and I am sad to say it is German! I speak a little but do not read German. I commented to him in the comment thread of that lecture asking about it in English but did not get a reply. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I don't care about the science, just like the scenery on a clear sunny day.
I’m not up on the time scale of mountain range uplifting. What was the proposed Snake River route going north from southern Idaho, into Montana, then back across Idaho to get to Washington? Seems there would be traces of it along the way, if one knew what to look for? Was it thought to be in areas currently east of continental divide?
Did the Bonneville Floods have anything to do with the Snake river running so far north?
I remember when the Snake River ran through Central Washington. (I was but a lad at the time.)
Curious about sediment transport rates; HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR SAND TO TRAVEL FROM SOURCE TO SEA IN A FREE-FLOWING RIVER? roughly....
I was able to pull up the paper by doing a Google search on the author’s name and Snake River, but the URL for the link was enormous.
@@TheDanEdwards I don’t know what a DOI is. I had no problem retrieving and saving the paper; it was just too long an addy to put in the comments.
@@SusanS588 DOI=Digital Object Identifier.
It's a way of identifying things in a computer system in a persistent fashion. Links to websites suffer from something called link rot. In other words they stop working as things about the internet change. Since academics like a persistent method of citing and finding material someone came up with DOI as a standard.
@@davidpnewton THX!
Oh , the lady that's tracking the zircons...why do I have a memory of her ? Did I see a video somewhere, maybe two years or more now ?
Thank you, professor.
Oh, yes, it could be 4 years, I should have waited, you answered 👍🏼💖
Nick- what is the camera and gizmo you are using to video? Thanks
What are the white and green fields acrost the river?
Hello Nick. Would the gap the Columbia flows through at this location be of similar origin to, say, the Wallula Gap, i.e the ice-age floods helped to carve through the higher elevations. Or is the ridge you are on recently uplifted and the Columbia has maintained its position?
I believe your pop-up at Sentinal Gap has answered this exquisitely!
So the sand down by vantage bridge along the river that blows up along the wall?
Can limestone be dated, like the sand? Or does it have to have zercons? I assume only fossils would be dateable in limestone?
"Ancient Rivers of the Pacific Northwest" would be my recommendation for new Nick Zentner viewers.
Yup, that's the first video I saw a couple of years ago and I've been hooked ever since :-)
Standing by for a Saddle Mountain pop up…
Does ash fall out from Mt St. Helens contaminant or confuse any evidence involving sand?
Dr. Staisch's lecture on the Snake River:
ua-cam.com/video/6c8OoYQJ8Js/v-deo.html
Nick do you know any geologists working (currently or previously) in northern Utah? almost Idaho, not far from where lake Bonneville drained. i live here and would like to know more about what is surrounding me, similar to what you are teaching about Washington.
Shawn Willsey. He is on YT too.
He means happy Mother’s Day.
Not every one can afford an expensive high quality muffler. Muffler boy is a perfect example of someone that just can't.
Unfortunately, most of them pay big money to get one that makes the car much louder.
I'll be around Moses Lake area at the end of this week. Beetle hunt.
What type of beetles?
@@annekennychapman2490 Tiger Beetles
Spokane river?
What is this map and where may I find it?
We are but ants, on a leaf, floating down a river. Going where? Only time will tell.
Dr. Staisch also recently presented on the Yakima Fold Belt:
ua-cam.com/video/NhO4E-YFwfQ/v-deo.html
Ive been to Snake River Canyon. My brother tried to kill me there. I was only three..
Not MY passenger car.
Have you ever gotten lost while walking and talking
Hope you carried out someone else’s beer can.