Wiley vs Nasty Jack | A Legendary Grime Clash That Reshaped Raves & The Many Lessons Learned

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • In the early 2000s, London's urban music scene was taking a new direction. The grime genre, known for its rebellious spirit and raw lyrics, was emerging. This was a world where talent wasn't just about your ability to spit bars, but also your capacity to stand your ground. Two names dominated this sphere: MC Wiley, often hailed as the Godfather of Grime, and MC Nasty Jack, a maverick from West London.
    Their paths, fueled by a shared passion for the music and the culture, were destined to cross. A concert was the arena, and the crowd, their unwitting witnesses. The energy was palpable as the two titans shared the stage, a silent tension brewing under the surface. Then came the confrontation - a joust of lyrics and ego, manifesting into what seemed like a challenge, a grime war. The crowd watched with bated breath as the echoes of their lyrical altercation reverberated through the venue.
    This incident wasn't just an isolated spat; it sparked a grime war that would endure for over a decade. Sly lyrics and diss tracks, the weapons of choice, were thrown back and forth. Each track, each verse, a chess move in this ongoing battle. It was an unsaid rivalry that kept fans on their toes, wondering what would unfold next.
    Yet, it was a particular dub from Nasty Jack that pierced Wiley's armor. His response left the grime community reeling; they were shocked that the usually invulnerable Wiley was touched by the lyrical jab. But what looked like a dangerous escalation had a surprising turn.
    During one intense showdown, Nasty Jack, admittedly tooled up and prepared for an altercation, found himself face-to-face with Wiley. But Wiley's response wasn't what anyone expected. Instead of returning aggression, he leaned in and whispered, "What you doing? This is just music, mate."
    That moment was a turning point. It was a profound lesson for everyone present: that the war of words, the lyrical duels, didn't have to spill into real life. Music was the battlefield, and their words were the only weapons they needed.
    What could have ended in devastation, potentially robbing the grime scene of two of its most influential figures, instead evolved into a musical rivalry. A clash that challenged both MCs to bring out their best, it became a testament to their love for the grime culture.
    The grime war between Wiley and Nasty Jack ended up strengthening the grime scene, carving a path for future artists to follow. They taught a vital lesson to the upcoming generation: Your artistry and skills should speak louder than any conflict, and when you embrace that, not only will you survive in the industry, you'll thrive.
    Their story is not just a story of rivalry and conflict but also of growth, respect, and the power of music. They demonstrated that even in the most heated musical wars, understanding and respect could prevail, allowing the music, and indeed the artists, to flourish. The MCs remained true to their craft, navigated through their differences, and most importantly, continued to make music, enriching the grime scene with their unique contributions.
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  • @Shiki229
    @Shiki229 7 місяців тому +25

    It’s mad how grime now exists in the past like other old school genres. You can’t ever recreate what the scene once was. And now we get to look back on it like this.

    • @tomking563
      @tomking563 4 місяці тому +2

      Kind of but its gonna come back round again and again

    • @Shiki229
      @Shiki229 4 місяці тому +3

      @@tomking563 It will but the golden era is over.

    • @JL-nk1pc
      @JL-nk1pc 3 місяці тому +2

      Grime signalled the end of rave culture in London. From jungle to garage to the abomination that was grime.

    • @moderndecay
      @moderndecay 3 місяці тому

      ​@@tomking563it is, but you will never recreate the energy of something the first time round.

    • @byrah
      @byrah 3 місяці тому +1

      I remember when I got first introduced to grime all the way back in the earlier days I think it was 2006 by a lovely little Latina from Feltham I was seeing, and it was great watching everything that has happened since then. But yeah old grime tunes are just unmatched.

  • @jaycostewart8
    @jaycostewart8 Рік тому +29

    Big up nasty jack, my man kept it 💯. No bias bullshit, just realness. I can respect it.💯👏🏾👏🏾👊🏿

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  • @jay-leeofficialcctv
    @jay-leeofficialcctv Рік тому +32

    I like how you put the diss tracks in there proper helps for the people that actually want to research this, it will definitely save some time trying to find the tracks.

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    • @minimysize
      @minimysize Рік тому +4

      ​@@RealGrimeSituations big h vs p money.

    • @CruiserzProductions
      @CruiserzProductions Рік тому +8

      @@RealGrimeSituations the trials and tribulations of marcus nasty

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Рік тому +6

      Brilliant Suggestions Both Have Been Added To The List !!

    • @H1madman
      @H1madman 4 місяці тому +1

      Do bearman vs foots next bro please!! Your channel brings back memories

  • @CertifiedShaunKnows
    @CertifiedShaunKnows 9 місяців тому +12

    Love wileys mature attitude to bring more talent keeping it to music, im glad I was apart of this era as a boy

    • @captainkickoff3565
      @captainkickoff3565 4 місяці тому +1

      Same I was 19 when grime kicked off

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  • @djcainemerson371
    @djcainemerson371 Рік тому +13

    I rate Jack from way back. The way he came one man up to Hot off da blocks set on Laylow FM and lit up Iceman was legendary

    • @laylowfmofficial1127
      @laylowfmofficial1127 Рік тому +10

      Lol

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    • @breaks3085
      @breaks3085 Рік тому +7

      I was on laylow fm 106.8. West london

  • @StreetKid247
    @StreetKid247 Рік тому +8

    These are really good man keep em coming !

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  • @qt2hype945
    @qt2hype945 23 дні тому +2

    Wiley always used to set up people to say their clash bars for him, knowing they were gonna cuss, they don’t even know he was helping them, Wiley will always be the Godfather

    • @RealGrimeSituations
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  • @robertovegatelli8720
    @robertovegatelli8720 Рік тому +9

    Cant lie i never really like nj back then but he is fuckin talented, the singing is too cold and he did go hard on that dub there

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  • @Versarocks
    @Versarocks Рік тому +19

    As much i as rate Nasty Jack. There is other mavericks from Grime. Wiley IS the godfather trust! no matter how much people hated him. Your better saying Big H, President T, Crazy Titch, Trim, Lethal Bizzle, Ghetto, Kano, Skepta, Remedee, BIG Nasty, D Double E were the mavericks that brought Grime to another level.

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    • @andishawjfac
      @andishawjfac Рік тому +1

      Rah how much further up Wileys arse do you wanna be bruv. This video is about the nasty jack VS wiley situation but you man always have to be mentioning as many MC's as you can, on some irrelevant ass kissing business.
      Shut up lad, nobody needs your brown nosing hype here.

    • @truevanpencil5403
      @truevanpencil5403 11 місяців тому +6

      Wiley’s an OG but he’s the self proclaimed godfather.
      Weird u also didn’t mention Goodz who is one guy Wiley admits destroyed him in a battle 🤔

  • @mannion1985
    @mannion1985 7 місяців тому +4

    Having to sort his handbag out at 19:40 slayed me

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  • @7he5treets
    @7he5treets Рік тому +10

    i dont no either wiley or nasty jack but found it a interesting watch and your write up is good in my opinion in both this and stormin vs trim . ill look fwd to the hypermasculine vs/clashes with RGS soon 🤣

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Рік тому +10

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the support who would you want to see next ?
      HYPERMASCULINE has a new name now its ULTRAFEMININE
      But luckily we as a community are going to help ULTRAFEMININE learn about grime

    • @7he5treets
      @7he5treets Рік тому +9

      @@RealGrimeSituationsyour welcome .... id love to find out more on what happend between [Chris Panton, aka crispy, aka Mouth Almighty] and Mike Skinner The Streets

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Рік тому +8

      Brilliant suggestion didn't know about this beef will be taking an in depth look into this !! any information about the subject would be extremely helpful !!

    • @7he5treets
      @7he5treets Рік тому +8

      @@RealGrimeSituations i found crispy on sound cloud an he has this to say , Chris Panton, better known as Mouth Almighty, and sometimes Crispy to heads from back in the day, was one of the founding members of the Streets alongside Mike Skinner (until Mike decided to Jack all the ideas and try to replace Chris as the rapper without writing his own shit like a fake, biting, abackstabbing disloyal wasteman). Somewhat disenfranchised by the whole "best friend bites your shit and tries to make you look like a knob for supporting him" thing, Mouth shunned the whole labels and commercial thing in favour of keeping his head down and spitting real shit for real peeps.
      It didn't turn out too well..
      Now hitting his 30s, broke as fuck, mashed in the head from excessive drug use and pissed off with sleeping for dinner 3 nights a week, he has finally decided to put himself out there....
      He probably won't get anywhere though, apparently wackness is the current prerequisite for chart success...
      And Mouth Almighty is anything but wack.

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Рік тому +6

      You have blown me away with this one bro I cannot lie this story has been hidden away for years need to see if we can reach out to Chris see if he wants to put his story across any contact information for him anywhere ?

  • @SStarTV
    @SStarTV Рік тому +5

    Enjoyed, subscribed

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  • @foreverhiddenpabz
    @foreverhiddenpabz 6 місяців тому +4

    RIP Stormin

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  • @Ali1986Koksal
    @Ali1986Koksal 4 місяці тому +3

    That "7 minute dub" (Superstar) is actually HARD.
    It's summin' different if nothing else and I had never even heard of it let alone listened to it until just now. But yea personally I STILL think it BANGS!!

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  • @rebellious0708
    @rebellious0708 Рік тому +4

    The beginning tune from Nasty Jack is cold 🔥🔥

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  • @oracleelectronica
    @oracleelectronica Місяць тому +1

    I used to rock this song by nasty jack I was trying to find the song and come across this video

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  • @alexmundy3303
    @alexmundy3303 8 місяців тому +5

    Mak 10 done his expelliarmus 🤣🔥

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  • @john_knee_pee
    @john_knee_pee Рік тому +4

    I was in Pentonville with Nasty man. He is sound AF

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  • @laylowfmofficial1127
    @laylowfmofficial1127 Рік тому +5

    Good watch 👍🏻

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  • @ryanfuzz488
    @ryanfuzz488 Рік тому +7

    I’m the Hackney kid not from Hackney but I hack knees!!!!!!!

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  • @aphelan8895
    @aphelan8895 6 місяців тому +3

    Wiley exit was Olympic qualifying standard tbh 😂😂😂

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  • @catfelix69
    @catfelix69 6 місяців тому +2

    Love for Nasty Jack, solid humble guy

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  • @DEADTEAMXXIII
    @DEADTEAMXXIII Рік тому +6

    Loving these
    More uploads soon?

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Рік тому +6

      100% Will Be Putting Something Big Together Real Soon !!
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  • @scratchydemus
    @scratchydemus 6 місяців тому +3

    Nasty Jack was so funny back then! 😂 lool. Does anyone know the song with Jack where he sings, "I don't really care if they hate us now...cos at the end of you'll be singing this song" in the chorus?

    • @innovateintellect
      @innovateintellect 6 місяців тому

      He’s hilarious

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  • @Hughesless4086
    @Hughesless4086 9 місяців тому +4

    Do Wiley vs frisco next!

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  • @ryanmccarthy2033
    @ryanmccarthy2033 11 місяців тому +4

    U gotta do more vids

  • @robertquestionmark89
    @robertquestionmark89 8 місяців тому +3

    “When you think deep.
    But you have auto tune

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  • @ogfly5058
    @ogfly5058 Рік тому +13

    Jack swag questionable 🤔

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    • @DEADTEAMXXIII
      @DEADTEAMXXIII Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/TZfbdm-otyY/v-deo.html

    • @ogfly5058
      @ogfly5058 Рік тому +5

      @@RealGrimeSituations thank u for the Content. U know who to do next, ur the master of ur Content. U ain't been wrong g so far 👊🏾

    • @yOGlo
      @yOGlo Рік тому +6

      Lol he is a real g at end of tha day, if u think he's sweet then just try it n see

    • @ogfly5058
      @ogfly5058 Рік тому +1

      @@yOGlo don't start dick hopping we bleed da same, I know fact he's been on job, don't mean he don't look fruit don't stero type

  • @dirtyrichtv0.133
    @dirtyrichtv0.133 2 місяці тому +1

    At 23:27 they clashing over one of my beats… not gonna lie we started grime with pulse x that’s the biggest grime tune till this day and we from north west London 💯

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  2 місяці тому +2

      @DirtyRichTV Would You Be Interested In Sharing Your Story , We Would Love To Put A Documentary Together About What You Remember From That Era , And Thank You For Everything You And Your Team Did For The Grime Scene !!

    • @dirtyrichtv0.133
      @dirtyrichtv0.133 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RealGrimeSituations yes I’m very interested in sharing my story and most definitely wanna help with the documentary💯👌🏾💯have you got a contact email or number I can message..

    • @RealGrimeSituations
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      Thanks Send An Email When You Are Free - realgrimesituations@gmail.com

    • @dirtyrichtv0.133
      @dirtyrichtv0.133 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RealGrimeSituations thank you know worries I’ll give you a message this evening.. thanks again🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @MembarzOnly
    @MembarzOnly 7 місяців тому +2

    Keep it up👏🏿

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  • @yOGlo
    @yOGlo Рік тому +4

    Kwefff !!!!!

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  • @swampy1234
    @swampy1234 10 місяців тому +4

    Good hawk

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  • @watchnoface8770
    @watchnoface8770 Місяць тому +1

    My guy dressed like he’s trying to find a new identity but ain’t figured it out yet 😂

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  • @JackBoon-cm1pl
    @JackBoon-cm1pl Місяць тому +1

    Amazing content can I get a name for the first tune

    • @RealGrimeSituations
      @RealGrimeSituations  Місяць тому +1

      Shizzle - Mission Riddim
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  • @4dthinking432
    @4dthinking432 24 дні тому +1

    Jack looked 40+ back then

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  • @DJkingFari832
    @DJkingFari832 Місяць тому +1

    That riddim took 2 years to start

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  • @DJJonnyBizzle
    @DJJonnyBizzle 3 місяці тому

    This was sick, big up Jack, West London all day!!!!
    I wanna see all the P Money clashes, Ghetts, Dot Rotten, Big H and the rest.

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    • @DJJonnyBizzle
      @DJJonnyBizzle 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RealGrimeSituations I say Dot Rotten 👌🏾

    • @a.ftp4207
      @a.ftp4207 22 дні тому +1

      A p money vs ghetts clash would of been legendary I'm still pissed to this day it never happened

  • @Mic.check1.2.1.2
    @Mic.check1.2.1.2 5 місяців тому +1

    That 1 spiff a day tune nasty jack was big

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  • @inspecktavegofficial1396
    @inspecktavegofficial1396 3 місяці тому

    THAT LYRIC ABOUT WILEY BEING ON THE PIPE WAS JOKES BIG UP NASTY JACK

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  • @yOGlo
    @yOGlo Рік тому +3

    Who says jack em ?? I say jack em !! Whose that ? Jack him !!

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  • @DaboooogA
    @DaboooogA 5 місяців тому +1

    Hard to believe this guy didn't end up in prison

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      @RealGrimeSituations  2 місяці тому

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  • @aphelan8895
    @aphelan8895 3 місяці тому

    NJ a legend in grime. Facts

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  • @captainkickoff3565
    @captainkickoff3565 6 місяців тому +2

    Limewire 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    • @a.ftp4207
      @a.ftp4207 22 дні тому +1

      Aids for your computer lol kids will never understand the struggles

    • @captainkickoff3565
      @captainkickoff3565 22 дні тому +1

      @@a.ftp4207 😂 my old man you shoutmy pcs effed you been on effin Limewire again

  • @Reverend-JT
    @Reverend-JT 6 місяців тому +2

    RIP Stormin

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    • @Reverend-JT
      @Reverend-JT 2 місяці тому +1

      @RealGrimeSituations I'd love to see something about the wiley vs wolf pack beef that ended up on radio. And of course dizzy vs wiley on Ayia Napa too.