Portuguese works really well for some reason, fr, the AI dubs are really good and the tittles translate fine, but for other languages I can't say the same.
HDR protocol got its 3rd and last ACK(Gnome) today. There are only missing a few details and the final review. After that the last missing protocol, that's almost finished too, is session Restore. Discord screen and audio sharing now fully works with Wayland too (canary). Wine Wayland is already on Master, only missing 2 small features that are being worked on.
Xwayland is like Proton, you just make your aplication work nice with it and you're basicaly done, no need to messing up with new things, use whatever you already know, existing libs works fine, for most things and the others that Xwayland don't work well are few and some are already Wayland native, yeah, 2025+ will be the year(s) of Wayland. Now when companies port their software to Linux they'll think about Wayland instead of Xorg, I hope atleast.
Yes, I said this a lot recently I think this year was finally the year when Wayland got pushed into general usability, especially for nVidia users. I hope Linux Mint is able to fully switch over to it sooner.
Built a new computer a few weeks ago and decided to try wayland. Using a gtx4700 ti and everything is working perfectly so far, but I have not done any of the things that would suffer the problems that you talked about in this video.
I’d love to see your workflow with DaVinci Resolve in Linux. I have Fedora 41 and bought a license for DR yesterday (the last day of the sale). I’m excited for this move to Linux full-time.
There hasn't been many problem in most part for my usecase of fedora+wayland+muxless Laptop that I couldn't solce with ease Even I'll say, most issues I have seen in the internet with Wayland are very situational things that very few would probably run under it.
i quite like how wayland works, but the biggest issues are that screensharing always breaks when i fullscreen a window (maybe that's hyprland issue idk) and sometimes obs just stops capturing my screen, the second issue is that drag and drop in wine straight up does now work, i've tested this on x11 plasma session and everything was alright so this is more xwayland issue because wine runs in xwayland mode
i was using zorinOS 17 and was annoyed how the nautilus file manager didnt have the Desktop button (Desktop Docments Downloads etc) then i noticed the cog in the login screen and changed to Zorin XORG and it now has the desktop in the side bar. I hope that gets fixed before XORG is discontinued :(
the current stable version of pop os has xwayland installed, but the conf file has Wayland set to false. Installing wayland-compositor and switching it to true was good enough to enable Wayland for me.
Maybe I did not really understand fully, but this really sounds like a mess. In 2025 I plan to switch when w10 support runs out and my plan was Linux mint. Now I am less sure.
Pretty much every distro I have touched has a toggle somewhere to turn off Wayland. I agree though, making this massive change at such a critical time is stupid, especially with how limited the returns seem to be.
@@JamesMcCloskey eh, zorin is kinda niche and slow on being up to date, if they really don’t want Linux Mint then I’d say Pop!_OS or Kubuntu are pretty good choices
The problem is that people are pushing Linux as Windows replacement and it hasn't the same functionality when you are trying with wayland. For example anydesk and rustdesk cannot connect to a host when is under wayland. Another big issue for me at least is themes. You apply a custom theme and cursor theme then you open a snap or flatpak app and theme-cursor theme is wrong.
I always recommend several as some sometimes just give problems on specific machines, my list is - linux mint (cinnamon) - fedora / fedora kde - ubuntu / kubuntu Assume each linux distribution is a supplier, and sometimes the product gets bad QA so its best to check all suppliers available for your particular needs
Why? If using latest drivers, it runs pretty darn flawless. If you don't have access to the latest drivers natively through your distro, it is because of your distro, not nvidia.
Running Ubuntu. I have multiple monitors running off multiple graphics cards (all AMD now) and wayland refuses to enable more than one graphics cards at a time. Switched to X11 and all my multi-monitor problems were resolved.
Also how unlike X11 where everything is modular and same across all platforms, on Wayland you get different protocols that are incompatiable with each other and runs and are developed indepedently from one and other. So something that works perfectly fine on KWin might still be impossible on Wlroots which leads to further fragmented linux desktop experiance
@@512Bytes You mean Xwayland gaming. Wayland gaming is not here yet, not even Proton has its wayland support ready, and it will take years for native games to get wayland builds if ever.
Please, disable the auto-translation of your titles and description. It's really anoying as a french.
It's really annoying for everyone*
In my language it just says "The year" very unusable
Portuguese works really well for some reason, fr, the AI dubs are really good and the tittles translate fine, but for other languages I can't say the same.
Me too I’m French this is annoying
I don't think this can be turned off from my side. UA-cam does this automatically
HDR protocol got its 3rd and last ACK(Gnome) today. There are only missing a few details and the final review.
After that the last missing protocol, that's almost finished too, is session Restore.
Discord screen and audio sharing now fully works with Wayland too (canary).
Wine Wayland is already on Master, only missing 2 small features that are being worked on.
Xwayland is like Proton, you just make your aplication work nice with it and you're basicaly done, no need to messing up with new things, use whatever you already know, existing libs works fine, for most things and the others that Xwayland don't work well are few and some are already Wayland native, yeah, 2025+ will be the year(s) of Wayland.
Now when companies port their software to Linux they'll think about Wayland instead of Xorg, I hope atleast.
Yes, I said this a lot recently I think this year was finally the year when Wayland got pushed into general usability, especially for nVidia users. I hope Linux Mint is able to fully switch over to it sooner.
I've just disabled my Nvidia card because it's very buggy on Wayland. Even the Intel GPU runs better on X11 with Plasma.
I *literally* jokingly told myself that that's the year of the Wayland desktop earlier today, and then I see this video pops up hahaha
I guess that's called a happy coincidence 🙃
Wayland should've been named X12
or Y.
Ya, I wondered about that too. Also Vulkan could have been like OpenGL 5.0 or something; but I guess they love Star Trek so much, heh.
Thank you, very informative video!
Built a new computer a few weeks ago and decided to try wayland. Using a gtx4700 ti and everything is working perfectly so far, but I have not done any of the things that would suffer the problems that you talked about in this video.
Thanks Friend
I’d love to see your workflow with DaVinci Resolve in Linux. I have Fedora 41 and bought a license for DR yesterday (the last day of the sale). I’m excited for this move to Linux full-time.
Good video.
There hasn't been many problem in most part for my usecase of fedora+wayland+muxless Laptop that I couldn't solce with ease
Even I'll say, most issues I have seen in the internet with Wayland are very situational things that very few would probably run under it.
i quite like how wayland works, but the biggest issues are that screensharing always breaks when i fullscreen a window (maybe that's hyprland issue idk) and sometimes obs just stops capturing my screen, the second issue is that drag and drop in wine straight up does now work, i've tested this on x11 plasma session and everything was alright so this is more xwayland issue because wine runs in xwayland mode
i was using zorinOS 17 and was annoyed how the nautilus file manager didnt have the Desktop button (Desktop Docments Downloads etc)
then i noticed the cog in the login screen and changed to Zorin XORG and it now has the desktop in the side bar. I hope that gets fixed before XORG is discontinued :(
that don't make sense, can't you add the documents and downloads to nautilus?
Literally doesn't have to do anything with x11/Wayland. Use normal, popular distro first
Currently running the cosmic desktop alpha -beta-. So yup, I'm in on wayland.
Edit: correction alpha, not beta
Cosmic is still in alpha... There is no beta yet.
the current stable version of pop os has xwayland installed, but the conf file has Wayland set to false. Installing wayland-compositor and switching it to true was good enough to enable Wayland for me.
Maybe I did not really understand fully, but this really sounds like a mess. In 2025 I plan to switch when w10 support runs out and my plan was Linux mint. Now I am less sure.
@@VascovanZeller Switch to Zorin OS. It has Wayland and X11. Problem solved.
Pretty much every distro I have touched has a toggle somewhere to turn off Wayland. I agree though, making this massive change at such a critical time is stupid, especially with how limited the returns seem to be.
@@JamesMcCloskey eh, zorin is kinda niche and slow on being up to date, if they really don’t want Linux Mint then I’d say Pop!_OS or Kubuntu are pretty good choices
linux mint is switching to wayland too, just install linux mint and be happy
@ it’s happening in a long time
Will 2025 be the year of Linux on the desktop?
The problem is that people are pushing Linux as Windows replacement and it hasn't the same functionality when you are trying with wayland. For example anydesk and rustdesk cannot connect to a host when is under wayland. Another big issue for me at least is themes. You apply a custom theme and cursor theme then you open a snap or flatpak app and theme-cursor theme is wrong.
Nomachine works pretty well
For a senior aged user which distribution would be the best to roll into?
linux mint or pikaOS4
I always recommend several as some sometimes just give problems on specific machines, my list is
- linux mint (cinnamon)
- fedora / fedora kde
- ubuntu / kubuntu
Assume each linux distribution is a supplier, and sometimes the product gets bad QA so its best to check all suppliers available for your particular needs
Pop_OS
Linux mint
ZorinOS
Ubuntu
Fedora
MX Linux
Fedora
Mint
Debian
The only reason I am using x11 is due to no support for nvidia drivers
Nvidia works on Wayland now
Please disable title auto-translation..
Lots of development and implement Asians? 0:18
'implementations'
I still have to run x11 due to nvidia
Why?
If using latest drivers, it runs pretty darn flawless.
If you don't have access to the latest drivers natively through your distro, it is because of your distro, not nvidia.
Running Ubuntu. I have multiple monitors running off multiple graphics cards (all AMD now) and wayland refuses to enable more than one graphics cards at a time. Switched to X11 and all my multi-monitor problems were resolved.
Also how unlike X11 where everything is modular and same across all platforms, on Wayland you get different protocols that are incompatiable with each other and runs and are developed indepedently from one and other. So something that works perfectly fine on KWin might still be impossible on Wlroots which leads to further fragmented linux desktop experiance
I prefer x11.
Well, if gnome hadn't kept NACK:ing things constantly in the past, wayland would probably have andvanced even faster.
We should just go back to CLI it just works
Wayland is getting better.
@@512Bytes You mean Xwayland gaming. Wayland gaming is not here yet, not even Proton has its wayland support ready, and it will take years for native games to get wayland builds if ever.
Wayland is a piece of poop, use Arcan instead