Kieltolaki - Prohibition in Finland

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  • @synnest
    @synnest 3 роки тому +619

    It wasn't a total failure, the prohibition made a lot of Estonian coastal villages very rich ;)

    • @danielviljanen5832
      @danielviljanen5832 2 роки тому +7

      For Finland

    • @dragm2123
      @dragm2123 2 роки тому +13

      Oo yes yes business yeah as Estonian it's go to Latvia buy "Viin" go to Finland sell it and you just got free trip to Helsingi 😅

    • @rihardpensa723
      @rihardpensa723 2 роки тому +2

      @@dragm2123 they going alco 1000

    • @dislikebutton966
      @dislikebutton966 2 роки тому +7

      How you gonna say it wasnt a total failure when we talk about Finland and not Estonia.

    • @jaanuspapp1333
      @jaanuspapp1333 2 роки тому +3

      @@dislikebutton966 well it made a lot of finish "entrepanours" rich as well

  • @ee326k
    @ee326k 2 роки тому +153

    Fun fact: the Estonian government was directly involved in smuggling alcohol to Finland and selling it for higher prices, as they could pocket it as extra tax money, of course this was done in secrecy and everything was covert, but it wasn't uncommon to see alcohol boxes waiting for Finnish boats to pick them up near Northern Estonian villages :-D
    Sending my greetings to Suomen veljet! 🇪🇪❤️🇫🇮

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 2 роки тому +3

      *Suomen veljet

    • @sttonep242
      @sttonep242 2 роки тому +10

      Makes so happy how siblings help each others out :D

    • @neelaberglof1429
      @neelaberglof1429 2 роки тому +9

      Quite a few of my friends still make one day trips to Estonia just to buy massive amounts of alkohol since it’s cheaper there than in Finland. Now it’s just not in secrecy 😆

  • @dongilleo9743
    @dongilleo9743 2 роки тому +187

    When I travelled to Finland in 1979, one of the first people I met was a man, obviously intoxicated, who approached me at the Helsinki bus station. Not hostile at all(he tried to offer me a drink from his bottle) but his speech was very slurred, his body shook, and I couldn't understand anything he was saying(my Finnish language skills were nearly non existent at that point). At the time I was a little scared. The friend I was with came back and we went to our bus.
    Latter on I did the math, and given his apparent age I realized that he was probably a young man in the years 1939-44, and almost certainly would have served in the military conflicts of that period. I realized that like many combat veterans, he likely had PTSD, and may have turned to alcohol as a form of self medication. Since then I've always wondered about that man; wishing I hadn't been afraid, or had been able to help him in some way.
    I wonder if the large rise in alcohol use in the 1940s on the chart was because of the wars and their aftermath.

    • @yorkaturr
      @yorkaturr 2 роки тому +86

      The war drove many men into alcoholism. It had a systemic effect on how children were raised and how families survived the drunken, violent fathers. It is a shared common trauma that still affects people to this day.

    • @courier6634
      @courier6634 2 роки тому +49

      In Finland after the war it was almost taboo for the men to speak about the experiences in the war, and that led to a massive increase in alcoholism amongst veterans. Not a good idea.

    • @sl06bhytmar
      @sl06bhytmar 2 роки тому +1

      The end story: he was fine, he just wanted to give you a liquid bread because you looked famished.

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 2 роки тому +2

      @@yorkaturr Stop blaming alcohol for violent fathers, and fear is healthy for children, it make them grow up stronger, healthier and kinder, which then makes their kids, grow up weaker, angrier and more prone to violence. It has nothing to do with alcohol. Alcohol just helps people become one with their true self, and it's a good thing. Drinking too much alcohol is bad for you, but there are things worse for you than alcohol, such as wife that hasn't been punched in the face because she is a bad person and most definitely deserve to be thrown head first into frozen lake for being a bitch. Only bad women will get punched by alcoholic men. It is a true story.
      No one gets punched unless by accident if they don't deserve it, accident may include being drunk and missing original target.
      Alcohol is good for you, in moderation, it is good for soul, and it makes Northern Europeans into normal people.

    • @buttersstotch7981
      @buttersstotch7981 2 роки тому +4

      Well, alcohol wasn't the biggest problem because since 1936 to 1960s Finland had like biggest heroin and meth consumption per capita

  • @vffncl0
    @vffncl0 2 роки тому +66

    I looked up my ancestors' names in old Finnish newspapers and was happy to get many results... they were all about my ancestors getting caught for making alcohol in this time period :/

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis 2 роки тому +9

      Good for them.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому +5

      Entrepreneurs! Good roots to have, you should be proud. Not all of the smugglers were violent, and some of the ways people hid pirtu were ingenious.

  • @MrMadfu
    @MrMadfu 3 роки тому +127

    7:55 that shit was fire

    • @mandelin0
      @mandelin0  3 роки тому +46

      The hottest cocktail of 1939

    • @IlllIlIlIIlll
      @IlllIlIlIIlll 2 роки тому +6

      @@mandelin0 totally lit

    • @Jiepers
      @Jiepers 2 роки тому +5

      They liked it so much they still lay there today

  • @rasmussundstrom2433
    @rasmussundstrom2433 2 роки тому +66

    This is The perfect example of: "The solution is not prohibition, it's legalization and regulation"

  • @murderouskitten2577
    @murderouskitten2577 2 роки тому +71

    speaking of Finish prohibition , my great-grandfather was smuggling alcohol from Riga To Helsinki as his main trade and got super rich of it.

    • @sl06bhytmar
      @sl06bhytmar 2 роки тому +16

      Thank you for yours great-grandpa's service

  • @Redfizh
    @Redfizh 3 роки тому +72

    I was once working in a liquor factory. My job was to sit and watch the bottles as they slide past. One by one

    • @mandelin0
      @mandelin0  3 роки тому +22

      Seems like an easy job

    • @danielviljanen5832
      @danielviljanen5832 2 роки тому +16

      That’s a dream job right there

    • @PastelComGini
      @PastelComGini 2 роки тому +5

      Were you allowed to drink while doing it?

    • @Redfizh
      @Redfizh 2 роки тому +12

      @@PastelComGini No, just watch.

    • @jaanuspapp1333
      @jaanuspapp1333 2 роки тому +2

      god i wish i could get payed for sitting around and doing nothing

  • @v1ckey
    @v1ckey 2 роки тому +18

    Foreign guests being treated with cocktails :D Classic!

    • @mikkomaijala366
      @mikkomaijala366 2 роки тому +1

      A classic Mandelin punc line! This guy really knows how to crack a joke!!!

  • @Vili307
    @Vili307 3 роки тому +26

    Thank you for this educational material

  • @Kipperboy100
    @Kipperboy100 3 роки тому +17

    Funniest content of my neighbourhood

  • @0nestormynight
    @0nestormynight 3 роки тому +8

    Hyvää settiä, jatka videoiden tekemistä ! :)

  • @jaanuspapp1333
    @jaanuspapp1333 2 роки тому +16

    estonia, selling finland cheap aclohol since 1919

    • @sukkamus1
      @sukkamus1 2 роки тому +4

      Please never stop selling it

    • @ee326k
      @ee326k 2 роки тому +1

      @@sukkamus1 come again! we are waiting for drunk Finnish tourists to come to our restaurants, buy our alcohol and have a good time (and give us extra tax money :-) )

  • @GreedPainLove
    @GreedPainLove 2 роки тому +2

    We live in interesting times since all the points in this video apply to cannabis illegality, and the prohibition around it is crumbling finally in many countries

  • @sepposavinainen2660
    @sepposavinainen2660 2 роки тому +4

    Otan teidän puolesta. Ryyppään itseni hengiltä!

  • @tschapetin564
    @tschapetin564 3 роки тому +8

    Mainio video minun friend, jatka same malliin👍

  • @idraote
    @idraote 2 роки тому +2

    I used to say that Northern Europe had a problem with alcohol consumption.
    I don't say it anymore because today teenager from all of Europe drink too much.
    That said (or no longer said), prohibition never ever solved anything.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому

      Though a fully sober teenage groups have emerged too: Ones that are fine with others drinking, but no longer feel peer pressure to drink themselves. I see the general attitudes towards alcohol are more healthy in gen Z, and even some of the younger millennials. The ones drinking too much or too early, are kids that are trying to self medicate a mental issue, or troubles at home or school life.
      I think a more accessible ways to get these kids to (qualified and certified) therapists, and assistance for homelife, are a solution needed here: We need to listen young folks if they wish to get away from their parents, for an example. Young people of today are suffering more stress than ever.

  • @cinderellaandstepsisters
    @cinderellaandstepsisters 2 роки тому +11

    Finland's alcohol consumption is not as high as ppl think.
    Watch The video "Country alcohol consumption comparison."
    In Europe the highest alcohol consumption countries are:
    The 1st Moldova, The 2nd, Lithuania, The 3rd Chechia and the 4th Germany.
    Finland is in the middle even under
    Forinstance Russia, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, France, Ireland, UK, Serbia, Belarus, Cypros, Portugal,Latvia, Estonia, Poland etc. are ahead of Finland.
    Good you mentioned of that.

    • @jyrki2275
      @jyrki2275 2 роки тому +2

      Of course they drunk More when alcohol IS cheaper than water

    • @k3kboi665
      @k3kboi665 2 роки тому +13

      The problem is how we consume not how much we do.
      We drink to get absolutly fucked up and everything in one sitting dont eat while doing it. Not like central europeans who drink a bit all the time.

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 2 роки тому +1

      @@k3kboi665 Good point

    • @AVKnecht
      @AVKnecht 2 роки тому +1

      Moldova and Lithuania is another story but Czechia and Germany only come up with those high consumption numbers due to the large amount of tourists.

    • @k3kboi665
      @k3kboi665 2 роки тому +6

      @engineer gaming thats not a flex at all :D

  • @hypo-critical
    @hypo-critical 2 роки тому +6

    I remember my home town(half the population is from Finland or is Finnish culturally), it literally has a bar that just does pickups so you can go home and drink in your underwear (pre covid).

    • @VigilantX9
      @VigilantX9 2 роки тому +1

      In which country?

    • @hypo-critical
      @hypo-critical 2 роки тому

      @@VigilantX9 canada

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому

      Right attitude in that town. At least you didn't have to wonder if you would have to spend the lock downs sober. Covid brought uncertainties in many things, but your town had that part covered!

  • @lieutenantmangomangusti3959
    @lieutenantmangomangusti3959 2 роки тому +3

    2:50 im pretty sure my sister was there lol

  • @craune6616
    @craune6616 2 роки тому +7

    politicians never learn, forbidding something does not make demand go away. Just as with cannabis, we got a lot of crime in sweden cause of this, the demand is there and the people buying it must pay criminality taxes, if it instead was regulated the government could get those taxes and a lot less crime.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому

      Yeah. And certain strains of cannabis are so mild, they cause less problems than alcohol. Edibles don't even harm your lungs, and some strains are apparently good on treating seizures, others help with adhd, and others mitigate side effect symptoms while doing chemo for cancer treatment.
      This is clearly a plant that can do a lot of good. Even if it's legalised, it doesn't mean we need to sell it in supermarkets so "what about the children" argument doesn't work: Stronger strains could be sold in pharmacy, and milder strains could be sold in specialised stores the way strong alcohol is sold in Alko in Finland.
      Honestly, hating that what-about-children argument: Didn't work with alcohol either. If a kid is determined enough, they can find ways to mess themselves up (mushrooms, glue, medicine cabinets of their parents...) The job is to educate kids to not do that too early.
      Get taxes from that stuff, and call it a deal.

  • @aarepelaa1142
    @aarepelaa1142 2 роки тому +2

    What's whit the start?
    Oh thats just me for me it was a bunch of green pixel goop.

    • @CarefreeMan
      @CarefreeMan 2 роки тому +1

      *Adjust your Video quality, that's gonna make the goop disappear.*

  • @hedone13x
    @hedone13x 2 роки тому +8

    I hope Swedish politicians see this and make the connection with cannabis laws in Sweden and the history of alcohol prohibition. It doesn’t work and there’s so much more to gain by letting the state take control of cannabis sale.

  • @seemikalliokoski6594
    @seemikalliokoski6594 2 роки тому +5

    "VOILEIPÄ"

  • @Ostsol
    @Ostsol 2 роки тому +4

    A toast to Molotov! 🍻

    • @Silveirias
      @Silveirias 2 роки тому +1

      Only if it involves throwing that toast at him with fire on the side.

  • @sanuku535
    @sanuku535 2 роки тому +5

    Ironic that there is vodka called absolut.

  • @MA-naconitor
    @MA-naconitor 2 роки тому +3

    Voileipä 🥪

  • @leijjuvalerssi6903
    @leijjuvalerssi6903 2 роки тому +1

    taustalla soi sama musiikki mikä soi vrchatin blackcatissä ;D

  • @v.haimila
    @v.haimila 2 роки тому +2

    Prohibition doesn't seem to work for other substances either such as weed

  • @alqaadi9858
    @alqaadi9858 2 роки тому +2

    4:57 What show is it?

  • @suzukits2508
    @suzukits2508 2 роки тому +2

    What is that Song at 5:12

    • @mandelin0
      @mandelin0  2 роки тому +2

      Guile's theme from Street Fighter

    • @suzukits2508
      @suzukits2508 2 роки тому +1

      @@mandelin0 Aijaha

  • @v.haimila
    @v.haimila 2 роки тому +1

    hyvä video

  • @blankface9363
    @blankface9363 2 роки тому +2

    4:47 Mikä oli tuon sarjan nimi mä en muista

  • @sanuku535
    @sanuku535 2 роки тому +1

    As The say.
    The copium IS best server cold.

  • @murderouskitten2577
    @murderouskitten2577 2 роки тому +2

    0:09
    you are tied to Korea and my country , thats pretty weak 😂🤣

  • @TrYhE
    @TrYhE 2 роки тому +1

    OK

  • @Justus07
    @Justus07 2 роки тому +2

    voileipä is the best

  • @Robbini0
    @Robbini0 2 роки тому +2

    Basically two nations had prohibition laws for the same amount of time, USA and Finland. One started a year earlier and ended a year earlier than the other, and both of them had the same 'successes' , although the american criminals have had a much more long-lasting existence if they got started during prohibition or before, compared to finnish smugglers.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому

      I think it's a clear example that Finland shouldn't follow U.S in most things they do. The way U.S has privatised things like healthcare for example, also hasn't helped an average citizen. Yet Finland is on the same road, letting companies that take care of essential services, go not just private, but go to foreign ownership that don't even pay taxes to Finland.
      Same with mining industry: Foreign companies that take the benefits and let them go aboard, instead of benefitting Finnish interests and being taxed by Finland. Shit like that should be government owned if we don't get the tax revenue.
      Nothing against foreigners or something. But I hate when we aren't taxing things that affect the population of Finland. Drugs like cannabis too: Put decent restrictions on who can sell, legalise it, and tax the hell out of it.

    • @Robbini0
      @Robbini0 Рік тому +1

      Well, they weren't the only nations that had prohibition, but they were the ones that had it the longest and the same problems.@@Sienisota

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому

      @@Robbini0 yeah. Finns (and every country) should look if stuff like this works in other countries, before immediately imitating it. When you are handed a test you can observe without risk to yourself, you shouldn't waste it.

  • @patropas5365
    @patropas5365 2 роки тому +1

    "Votka" - my drunk father

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid 2 роки тому +3

    ... but _drugs_ R still _baaaad_ mmkay kids? Especially the mariguanas!

  • @markopelaa
    @markopelaa Рік тому

    In most epic democraszy in the world we should make referendums about important stuff.

  • @jakalordarkblood4331
    @jakalordarkblood4331 Місяць тому

    Name a better history couple than Russian Tanks and Molotov Cocktails

  • @zoeblopaistinpannu5278
    @zoeblopaistinpannu5278 2 роки тому +2

    only 70% voted against prohibition?

    • @suvi7641
      @suvi7641 2 роки тому +2

      probably the smugglers voted for it hahah

    • @Jiepers
      @Jiepers 2 роки тому

      the 30% were underage and cannot vote yet

  • @kojo0ttiz316
    @kojo0ttiz316 10 місяців тому

    VOILEIPÄ

  • @gameman3332
    @gameman3332 2 роки тому

    youd think i was drunk even when i havent drank any alcohol becuse of the way i act

  • @autisticbird1671
    @autisticbird1671 2 роки тому +1

    Ei tekis niin kosk ne tarvii sen 100% alkoholi veron

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk 2 роки тому +2

    Then why still keep drugs illegal? 🤔

    • @SO-Negative
      @SO-Negative 2 роки тому +3

      Well you know what they say, those are smuggling illegal things are always against the legalize to control the monopoly. There's always more money involved in black market than in legal tax paying and those who are in charge of black market wants to keep the money for themselves instead of giving it to government. Plus making drugs legal would mean hard and expensive project to create working system which allows controlled drug distribution, and creating better health care system to deal with people who overdose or abuse them. Plus it would be also big hit for alcohol industry which is currently controlled by government. Plus many other things about human behavior which I just can't get to my mind right now thanks to being sleepy. But the main point here was that it always comes to money, it's more profitable to keep them illegal than making them legal. Human is so easy to corrupt, body and soul.

  • @Xerdoz
    @Xerdoz 2 роки тому +1

    Ei jumankauta tuota ääntämistä. Voisi edes hieman yrittää.

    • @jarskil8862
      @jarskil8862 2 роки тому +12

      Vissii uus tälläkanavalla :D