@@crushingvanessa3277 Yep. Dave Calhoon (CEO) was on the first MAX flight along with the head of their commercial aircraft head. The head (administrator) of the FAA also personally flew the MAX with the software updates before re-certifying it.
@@robinmyman more people died in a single accident in 1977 from 2 747s, and people are still flying with them to this day: because after the accident the issues that let to that crash were fixed and redundant safety measures were put in place, same with the 737max
It's a tragedy really... to think that they allowed 737 again. I mean, I just came from James Asquith channel review about it and man, don't even think of getting first class coz it's almost the same as the economy.
Really? The company is still being run by the same executives (aside from the CEO who was pushed out). Same structure. Same FAA and other agencies that certified it to begin with. What really changed aside from a second sensor for the MCAS (the fact that it was certified with one is mind boggling), a software update, and a lot of PR?
Great video, it's so nice too see this jet back in service again. It's also really nice to see the CEO and other executives on this flight. I'll look forward to stepping onto a Max in the future.
everyone freaking out about the max when in reality its probably safer now than most aircraft after vigorous testing the past 2 years, compared to many other aircraft it still has very low accidents and incidents compared to any other aircraft.
It was always safe. What isn't safe is flying on a third world airline. Boeing's faults are minor when you read how incompetent the airlines and pilots involved in the crashes were.
I agree with both sides. I can relate to people who lost loved ones in those 2 accidents and those who lost their confidence in Boeing. But as an airline pilot who flies the 737 various type have confidence in Boeing, Transport Canada and my fellow colleagues flying the max to be safest aircraft out in the industry. I can't wait to get recertification on this again.
@Faelynn Washington Us pilots don't like that. It's kinda like saying "Oh thank goodness we're on the ground. I thought we were gonna die and that the landing was gonna be attrocious"
@Faelynn Washington It's not so much disrespectful as it is similar to an annoying remark or it kinda undermines the flight/experience a bit. My previous example was a bit extreme.
In general I dislike when people clap on landings. However in this case I think it would be a reasonable thing to do, to celebrate the first completed flight of the MAX.
You did a great job. As for Boeing trying to make it right, I see Boeing has been going way above and beyond to make sure these will be the safest aircraft in the sky.
I’d jump on the MAX tomorrow if I could. I was supposed to fly on it two years ago with Southwest but the flight got changed due to weather so I missed out.
Re your comments on the 737-8 name, that's aways been the official name. MAX is only a marketing name. The official type certificate documents etc. have always only referred to 737-7, 737-8, 737-9, 737-10.
I would have to say at this point out of any new aircraft I may trust this one more they've been up it with a fine-tooth comb and they better have it right
Hardly a fine tooth comb. A warning light stopped the very first flight. Passengers had to take a 787 instead. 25 737 Max are grounded again because fuel sealer is missing which could cause a fire. After two 737 Max had to emergency land on one engine. One mistake after another. What else is wrong with it? "25 Boeing 737 MAX 9s To Be Inspected For Missing Fuel Sealant"
I will fly those airplane more than other. by the simple fact they were so look after. I miss flying in general but the dash8 q400 is something special in my book. thank you for bringing back some memories
Fantastic video, and great to see the MAX back in the skies. I would have no hesitation flying on the max - it is now finally the aircraft Boeing set out to make and I’m sure it will be successful.
Please help me. First off I love your videos as you do a fantastic job reviewing. My question: you stated that row 4 had extra room due to PE in row 3, but Seatguru only has row 14 with extra legroom. Why do they not list row 4? Thanks!
Now it pitches up not down when an AOA is damaged because MCAS shuts off. Still only 2 sensors not 3. 3 is required for proper redundancy so you know which one is bad.
@@josky1989 Yes. 3 sensors and 3 flight computers is common on modern, new aircraft. 737 Max only has 2 of each. The crashes wouldn't have happened if Boeing had followed safety standards where a critical safety system relies on sensors, especially ones vulnerable to bird strikes etc. Most aircraft don't fly so poorly that MCAS is needed. In that case 3 are required. 737 Max wouldn't pass certification as an all new aircraft for this and many other reasons. It's all grandfathered in. It's really a dinosaur from the 60s. "Its most advanced planes, for instance, have three flight computers that function independently, with each computer containing three different processors manufactured by different companies. So even some of the people who have worked on Boeing’s new 737 MAX airplane were baffled to learn that the company had designed an automated safety system that abandoned the principles of component redundancy, ultimately entrusting the automated decision-making to just one sensor - a type of sensor that was known to fail. Boeing’s rival, Airbus, has typically depended on three such sensors. “A single point of failure is an absolute no-no,” said one former Boeing engineer who worked on the MAX, " 3 are needed so when one fails you go with the other 2 that agree.
@@josky1989 No. 2 AoA sensors is standard on conventional planes. B747, 757, 767, MD-11, they all have 2 as well. 3 is standard on Airbus fly-by-wire planes, but their flight control computers are far more intervening than MCAS. Boeing FBW planes (777/787) have 2 AoA sensors plus some kind of virtual backup I believe, however I'm not familiar with the details on this, but they have 2 real AoA sensors as well, not 3. Planes like the ATRs, Fokker 70/100 for example have so-called stick pushers which actively push the yoke forward in a stall situation, and they also rely on 2 AoA sensors, which hasn't been a problem so far. The 737 MAX is still a conventional plane where the yoke is mechanically connected to the control surfaces using cable and pulleys. It can't be compared to the flight control computer system of the Airbus planes, hence saying that the MAX needs 3 AoA sensors just because Airbus planes do, isn't a fair comparison.
The 737 is one of the reason I tend to prefer flying Air Canada. It always feels that flights on the 737 last forever. The airbus 320 feel a lot better.
Well Air Canada is now replacing their A320's with 737 MAX's. There will be only one Canadian A320 operator left and that's Air Transat. Enjoy their cramped seats and horrible service.
Well... If you're not meant to die, even if you fly in this plane, you won't die. I was sad to see the B737MAX grounded that long, I really enjoyed Aeromexico's service on the B737MAX, but I bet it will be a very successful plane once it gets the confidence back of the people. I'm looking forward to fly on this plane again, once the pandemic is over.
The MAX is back in the news after a warning light lit up on a WestJet MAX, likely due to something engine-related. It's sad that the news tries to make it look like something MCAS-related, but in reality this is just what happens when any machine is shut down for prolonged periods. To those that say that the planes have been flying to keep the fluids running during the grounding, that is so not true because it that was true, families of the 346 would have been continuously speaking out against that 24/7.
I’m pretty sure it’s the most regulated and safest planes that are in the skies right now. Boeing cannot and will not risk another incident with this aircraft.
I never could understand the big problem that grouned the MAX8 in the first place. They made many thousands of flights in North America without a problem. Were the crews of the two downed planes not trained as well as the North American pilots?
It a combination of poor communications between manufacturer and operators, substandard pilot training, poor maintenance, and bad design that brought the two crashes. All the 737 MAX operators in North America already have their MCAS use both AoA sensors before the accidents, so the chances of crashing like the two flights in NA is already virtually impossible unlike in less developed nations like Indonesia and Ethiopia. The biggest takeaway from Flight 610's Final Report was the pilot training needs to be addressed. Both the Lion Air and Ethiopian crews essentially tried to automate their way out of the problem and either failed to do the memory items or did it half-assedly. That's why the biggest change that came out of the recertification was that simulator time is now mandatory, while also MCAS systems now must use both AoA sensors and a new software update that reduces MCAS's nose down inputs.
Boeing and everyone else agrees the crashes had nothing to do with the pilots. The only reason they didn't crash in North America is because 80% of them are not in North America. Just the odds. Would have been a matter of time. Russian Roulette works like that.
You dont know what you are talking about ,you are not a pilot,there is no autotrim on a 737...and etchopian pilots disabled the electrical trim first but in order to save the plane you have to set the trim with your hand,yes there is no keyboard button to do that like in fsx,the reality is different,and they were too fast to do that,so they enabled again the electrical trim and this damn software killed them
@Nic Lazzari" inadequate training",of course if boeing didnt tell anyone about the mcas ,why there would be a training for it?can you be more specific if you meant something else
@@Hk-uw8my MCAS makes trim inputs, which result in the trim wheels turning. If there's an uncommanded movement of the stabilizer, you follow the runaway stabilizer memory items. In that moment, it doesn't matter what causes it, be it MCAS or a short circuit or whatever, the pilot's job is to stop the runaway. Those memory items exist in all 737s, hence 737 rated pilots should all be trained for it and deal with a runaway situation in the sim. If they didn't, then that's inadequate training and they would have lost control of the plane for any other reason of a runaway stabilizer as well. As far as I know, a runaway stabilizer due to short circuit hasn't ever happened in a 737, but the procedure for it has always existed. Also, the Ethiopian pilots didn't disable the electric trim first. According to the flight data recorder, it took way longer for them to respond than for the Lion Air crews. It only took 2 MCAS activations to trim the stabilizer almost to the mechanical stop. The pilots then counteracted with uptrim, but stopped half way and then cut it out. By then they had already entered the overspeed condition and couldn't trim manually. When they reenabled the electric trim, MCAS didn't activate again at first. The pilots gave some minor uptrim, and that was what reset MCAS to activate for the 3rd time that ended it all. They could have trimmed it back and regain control.
@@kallek5655 did you remember that the mcas can activate for nothing with a broken sensor,so no even if they trimmed it back, with the electrical trim enabled the mcas was mad and can activate at any moment,thats why they dived....i agree with american pilots union,they couldnt save the plane...this is inexcusable to blame the foreign pilots for these crashes
@@Hk-uw8my I do remember, but I've also read the official report on the Lion Air crash and seen the flight data for it and the Ethiopian. MCAS could not activate at any moment, and it couldn't override the pilot's trim inputs. It could activate 5 seconds after the pilot stopped a manual trim input. The Lion Air's flight data shows that MCAS activated something like 17 times, but the captain always noticed it and overrode MCAS with nose-up trim inputs. MCAS never trimmed for its full 10 seconds, the captain always returned the trim to the desired setting. Those are facts that are in the report. 17 times MCAS was overridden, it proves that it was possible, and one day earlier another Lion Air crew did in fact save the plane with exactly the same MCAS malfunction. That also proves that it was possible. The report stated that the captain, for whatever reason, handed control over to the F/O, but without telling him about the rogue trim. That was the moment that it went all sour, as when the F/O was in control, MCAS was active for longer and the F/O didn't really trim it back like the captain did. His minor trim inputs allowed MCAS to reset and activate again. That was when MCAS was able to trim all the way to the end. Why the captain didn't regain control though, we don't know.
The 737 Max will have more crashes, count on it. The same Boeing culture is in place even when executives "say" they changed it. FAA regulations and government de-regulation are still the same since the crashes, Boeing is still fully capable and still does do their own inspections since the FAA does not have the amount of inspectors to keep up. Boeing did their own inspections that got the Max re-certified, not the FAA. The Max plane still has the same engines that cause the plane to want to tilt up which caused MCAS faults in the first place. 2 sensors instead of just 1 but still the same faulty design are still there. The same Boeing engineers that designed MCAS and the software are the same engineers that redesigned the system and software. You'd really trust Boeing after all this? The 737 Max is still not safe, and probably never will be. There will be more crashes in the coming year as more of them begin flying.
It's a tragedy really... to think that they allowed 737 again. I mean, I just came from James Asquith channel review about it and man, don't even think of getting first class coz it's almost the same as the economy.
Bit disappointed people didn't applaud on landing. Not for any awed/cringey reason but because there is a great deal of conscious anxiety about this plane and the significance of this flight can't be overstated. It would of been a nice way to have a community moment and restore actual confidence instead of bland and quiet civility. Nonetheless let's hope the model can continue to service successful flights and Boeing can reenter our collective minds as a trustworthy and reliable aircraft manufacturer.
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I like that Ed Sims and the Flight ops VP were on the flight. Adds a lot of confidence!
Their wives loaded up on life insurance on the them...
Flight Ops VP was the captain. Very nice to see
I wonder if Boeing execs went for a ride during testing?
@@crushingvanessa3277 Yep. Dave Calhoon (CEO) was on the first MAX flight along with the head of their commercial aircraft head. The head (administrator) of the FAA also personally flew the MAX with the software updates before re-certifying it.
Agreed....Shows a lot of class.
I'm so jealous. I so wanted to be on this flight. I almost ditched work to go. My responsibilities outweighed my heart unfortunately.
Also from Calgary btw
It's so good to see the MAX back in the skies
Yes indeed
How many lives lost in a 737 with all the denial about its previous faults...not least of which was the defective rudder screws?
@@robinmyman stop moaning, Boeing is back baby! Time to teach airbussy a lesson.
@@robinmyman And people like you wonder why so many avgeeks have lost interest in aviation...
@@robinmyman more people died in a single accident in 1977 from 2 747s, and people are still flying with them to this day: because after the accident the issues that let to that crash were fixed and redundant safety measures were put in place, same with the 737max
I wouldn't hesitate one bit flying on the Max. With all the scrutiny, it has to be the safest aircraft out there imo...
It's a tragedy really... to think that they allowed 737 again. I mean, I just came from James Asquith channel review about it and man, don't even think of getting first class coz it's almost the same as the economy.
Really? The company is still being run by the same executives (aside from the CEO who was pushed out). Same structure. Same FAA and other agencies that certified it to begin with. What really changed aside from a second sensor for the MCAS (the fact that it was certified with one is mind boggling), a software update, and a lot of PR?
this comment didn't age well 😂
I plan on flying on a 737 MAX. Such a cool aircraft.
Great video, it's so nice too see this jet back in service again. It's also really nice to see the CEO and other executives on this flight.
I'll look forward to stepping onto a Max in the future.
everyone freaking out about the max when in reality its probably safer now than most aircraft after vigorous testing the past 2 years, compared to many other aircraft it still has very low accidents and incidents compared to any other aircraft.
@Nic Lazzari for real
It was always safe. What isn't safe is flying on a third world airline.
Boeing's faults are minor when you read how incompetent the airlines and pilots involved in the crashes were.
I agree with both sides. I can relate to people who lost loved ones in those 2 accidents and those who lost their confidence in Boeing. But as an airline pilot who flies the 737 various type have confidence in Boeing, Transport Canada and my fellow colleagues flying the max to be safest aircraft out in the industry. I can't wait to get recertification on this again.
@@TheOwenMajor you’re kidding correct?
This very plane has been parked outside my office window for the entire time they were grounded. Sorry to see her go lol
at least it wasn't attempting to land in front of your office.. lol
Lucky 😠
Thank You Alex!!! So excited about the Max return
Flew on it 2x in 2019. Would have no problem doing it again.
I’m glad no one clapped after the landing
@Faelynn Washington Us pilots don't like that. It's kinda like saying "Oh thank goodness we're on the ground. I thought we were gonna die and that the landing was gonna be attrocious"
@Faelynn Washington It's not so much disrespectful as it is similar to an annoying remark or it kinda undermines the flight/experience a bit. My previous example was a bit extreme.
In general I dislike when people clap on landings. However in this case I think it would be a reasonable thing to do, to celebrate the first completed flight of the MAX.
Absolutely amazing, that sunrise is incredible!
Hello you should also check James Asquith UA-cam video as he gave his honest review regarding the 737 max. :)
Great video Alex. I flew the MAX with Aeromexico recently. What a great aircraft.
Great report, it's nice to see videos of those first post-grounding flights :)
So nice to see these birds back flying again
Well done sir. Welcome MAX back in the sky again!!
YAY!!! the 737 MAX
Thank you for your positive trip report of this flight. I was in 26A and the flight was flawless!
Thanks for your input. I am looking forward to flying the 737 max
So glad there are many excited about the Max... Please book on the Max and free up seats on the other aircraft types for me...
Good one 👍
Your crazy those things are bricks with wings.
What?
Smooth and quiet aircraft!
You are brave to fly max now! MAN!
Great video. Welcome back max.
Another well shot video. Beautiful Scenery as always. Thanks Alex
Great transparency from Westjet - well done.
They had no choice
You did a great job. As for Boeing trying to make it right, I see Boeing has been going way above and beyond to make sure these will be the safest aircraft in the sky.
You mean they've done what they should have done in the first place and only because they've been forced and shamed to do so
Wonderful! I would fly the B-737 max any given day! I know it is a very safe aircraft. Kudos to Westjet! You are awesome!
Amazing!
Great video super clear and awesome content, thanks for sharing. GO BOEING 737
You sir are the man. Very impressive and love the support for a Canadian icon!
I’d jump on the MAX tomorrow if I could. I was supposed to fly on it two years ago with Southwest but the flight got changed due to weather so I missed out.
Re your comments on the 737-8 name, that's aways been the official name. MAX is only a marketing name. The official type certificate documents etc. have always only referred to 737-7, 737-8, 737-9, 737-10.
This is true, people need to stop saying it's Boeing trying to avoid the MAX branding. It would be like calling a 737-800 a 737-NG 800
That was excellent Alex! Thank you for sharing this with us ... :):):)
Take care and be safe out there...
Excellent plane and very beautiful outside view over the mountains during sunrise 😍
What a good roll!
I would have to say at this point out of any new aircraft I may trust this one more they've been up it with a fine-tooth comb and they better have it right
Hardly a fine tooth comb. A warning light stopped the very first flight. Passengers had to take a 787 instead.
25 737 Max are grounded again because fuel sealer is missing which could cause a fire.
After two 737 Max had to emergency land on one engine.
One mistake after another.
What else is wrong with it?
"25 Boeing 737 MAX 9s To Be Inspected For Missing Fuel Sealant"
FINALLY!!! Glad it's back in the skies again!!!
26L was a surprise. Bet a lot of spotters waiting on 26R were pissed.
I will fly those airplane more than other. by the simple fact they were so look after. I miss flying in general but the dash8 q400 is something special in my book. thank you for bringing back some memories
I'm sure it's now the safest airplane you can fly. Great video!
That would have been such a great flight to be on! I can't wait to do this.
The MAX is Back!
LOL, everytime I see your name Im thinking youre the Ice Road Trucker Alex guy...hehe Congradulations on surviving the Max flight software lol
Love your trip reports
imagine getting on this flight having no idea the back story and just sitting there like oh shit oh fuck lmao
Looks like a lovely aircraft, quiet and smooth but I won't be stepping foot on one for a long time to come.
Flying on it to mexico, not sure how i feel haha, Nervous but also excited
It's bound to be one of the safest aircraft given the regulatory attention that it received. I would fly on it.
Fantastic video, and great to see the MAX back in the skies. I would have no hesitation flying on the max - it is now finally the aircraft Boeing set out to make and I’m sure it will be successful.
Please help me. First off I love your videos as you do a fantastic job reviewing. My question: you stated that row 4 had extra room due to PE in row 3, but Seatguru only has row 14 with extra legroom. Why do they not list row 4? Thanks!
Apparently the 737 MAX still has issues with its angle of attack sensor (AOA) and quality issues, but hopefully there won't be any more accidents.
Now it pitches up not down when an AOA is damaged because MCAS shuts off. Still only 2 sensors not 3. 3 is required for proper redundancy so you know which one is bad.
@@bobbraan8706 Are there normally 3 AOA sensors on other aircraft? (just wondering, I'm not really familiar with this)
@@josky1989 Yes. 3 sensors and 3 flight computers is common on modern, new aircraft. 737 Max only has 2 of each. The crashes wouldn't have happened if Boeing had followed safety standards where a critical safety system relies on sensors, especially ones vulnerable to bird strikes etc.
Most aircraft don't fly so poorly that MCAS is needed. In that case 3 are required.
737 Max wouldn't pass certification as an all new aircraft for this and many other reasons. It's all grandfathered in.
It's really a dinosaur from the 60s.
"Its most advanced planes, for instance, have three flight computers that function independently, with each computer containing three different processors manufactured by different companies.
So even some of the people who have worked on Boeing’s new 737 MAX airplane were baffled to learn that the company had designed an automated safety system that abandoned the principles of component redundancy, ultimately entrusting the automated decision-making to just one sensor - a type of sensor that was known to fail. Boeing’s rival, Airbus, has typically depended on three such sensors.
“A single point of failure is an absolute no-no,” said one former Boeing engineer who worked on the MAX, "
3 are needed so when one fails you go with the other 2 that agree.
@@bobbraan8706 That's interesting, I never knew that. Thanks!
@@josky1989 No. 2 AoA sensors is standard on conventional planes. B747, 757, 767, MD-11, they all have 2 as well. 3 is standard on Airbus fly-by-wire planes, but their flight control computers are far more intervening than MCAS. Boeing FBW planes (777/787) have 2 AoA sensors plus some kind of virtual backup I believe, however I'm not familiar with the details on this, but they have 2 real AoA sensors as well, not 3.
Planes like the ATRs, Fokker 70/100 for example have so-called stick pushers which actively push the yoke forward in a stall situation, and they also rely on 2 AoA sensors, which hasn't been a problem so far.
The 737 MAX is still a conventional plane where the yoke is mechanically connected to the control surfaces using cable and pulleys. It can't be compared to the flight control computer system of the Airbus planes, hence saying that the MAX needs 3 AoA sensors just because Airbus planes do, isn't a fair comparison.
Brave man ... disinfecting hand wipe would have been the least of my worries
Thanks for the informative ride!
Having looked at these comments I think all these ppl either work for Boeing or westjet
The 737 is one of the reason I tend to prefer flying Air Canada. It always feels that flights on the 737 last forever. The airbus 320 feel a lot better.
Well Air Canada is now replacing their A320's with 737 MAX's. There will be only one Canadian A320 operator left and that's Air Transat. Enjoy their cramped seats and horrible service.
IIRC the Max has always been -7,-8 etc. NG 737's are -700,-800 and so on.
nice to see the max back in the air i will fly on when we are aloud.
Great video. Spotted Robin!!!
Love new livery
I like the old livery better
But the new ain’t bad
So happy I fly the A321NEO...this must be a nightmare to fly?? Shoulder to shoulder...1960's!
Wow... amazing views
I wish WestJet's 737 NGs also had Sky Interior
Excellent video Alex!
are row 5/6 extra legroom as well or just 4? We are headed to Hawaii in a few days and just scored row 4 and row 6
It will be a long time before I get on that plane
Why? It's one of the safest aircraft rn
love your videos bro!!!
Ed Sims was a senior executive of Air NZ and is a New Zealander who left the airline to become the CEO of WestJet.
Don't ask but I'm watching this in a pool at midnight lol
Well... If you're not meant to die, even if you fly in this plane, you won't die. I was sad to see the B737MAX grounded that long, I really enjoyed Aeromexico's service on the B737MAX, but I bet it will be a very successful plane once it gets the confidence back of the people. I'm looking forward to fly on this plane again, once the pandemic is over.
like you say Alex the max is like a ngx big brothers ! lol
I keep thinking you're the Alex from Ice Road Truckers lol
The MAX is back in the news after a warning light lit up on a WestJet MAX, likely due to something engine-related. It's sad that the news tries to make it look like something MCAS-related, but in reality this is just what happens when any machine is shut down for prolonged periods. To those that say that the planes have been flying to keep the fluids running during the grounding, that is so not true because it that was true, families of the 346 would have been continuously speaking out against that 24/7.
Got a flight with one of these in May, this aircraft is beautiful
Update: Never got the flight
butter landing
Great video, was hoping you’d be on this flight! Did Ed ride up in the jump seat on this flight?
a beautiful video in Canadian's sky with this 737 Max ✈👍
Westjet airline Canada 🇨🇦 ❤️
I fly this aircraft only after 5 years atleast...without any incident
When will they fly it to Maui ?
The engines are so so quiet, especially on the final. Could barely hear them.
im still not confident to fly in max yet..
I am!
I’m pretty sure it’s the most regulated and safest planes that are in the skies right now. Boeing cannot and will not risk another incident with this aircraft.
@@jlcy8313 never heard better bullshit in my life than what you just said
I never could understand the big problem that grouned the MAX8 in the first place. They made many thousands of flights in North America without a problem. Were the crews of the two downed planes not trained as well as the North American pilots?
It a combination of poor communications between manufacturer and operators, substandard pilot training, poor maintenance, and bad design that brought the two crashes. All the 737 MAX operators in North America already have their MCAS use both AoA sensors before the accidents, so the chances of crashing like the two flights in NA is already virtually impossible unlike in less developed nations like Indonesia and Ethiopia. The biggest takeaway from Flight 610's Final Report was the pilot training needs to be addressed. Both the Lion Air and Ethiopian crews essentially tried to automate their way out of the problem and either failed to do the memory items or did it half-assedly. That's why the biggest change that came out of the recertification was that simulator time is now mandatory, while also MCAS systems now must use both AoA sensors and a new software update that reduces MCAS's nose down inputs.
Boeing and everyone else agrees the crashes had nothing to do with the pilots.
The only reason they didn't crash in North America is because 80% of them are not in North America.
Just the odds. Would have been a matter of time.
Russian Roulette works like that.
Ironically, the Max aircraft are possibly the safest aircraft to fly on due to the intense scrutiny of the past 22 months.
So nice to experience flying through your video during these times
both max crashes were actually pilots error, BOTH crews activated auto trim and at that point BOTH planes plunged to the earth
You dont know what you are talking about ,you are not a pilot,there is no autotrim on a 737...and etchopian pilots disabled the electrical trim first but in order to save the plane you have to set the trim with your hand,yes there is no keyboard button to do that like in fsx,the reality is different,and they were too fast to do that,so they enabled again the electrical trim and this damn software killed them
@Nic Lazzari" inadequate training",of course if boeing didnt tell anyone about the mcas ,why there would be a training for it?can you be more specific if you meant something else
@@Hk-uw8my MCAS makes trim inputs, which result in the trim wheels turning. If there's an uncommanded movement of the stabilizer, you follow the runaway stabilizer memory items. In that moment, it doesn't matter what causes it, be it MCAS or a short circuit or whatever, the pilot's job is to stop the runaway. Those memory items exist in all 737s, hence 737 rated pilots should all be trained for it and deal with a runaway situation in the sim. If they didn't, then that's inadequate training and they would have lost control of the plane for any other reason of a runaway stabilizer as well. As far as I know, a runaway stabilizer due to short circuit hasn't ever happened in a 737, but the procedure for it has always existed.
Also, the Ethiopian pilots didn't disable the electric trim first. According to the flight data recorder, it took way longer for them to respond than for the Lion Air crews. It only took 2 MCAS activations to trim the stabilizer almost to the mechanical stop. The pilots then counteracted with uptrim, but stopped half way and then cut it out. By then they had already entered the overspeed condition and couldn't trim manually.
When they reenabled the electric trim, MCAS didn't activate again at first. The pilots gave some minor uptrim, and that was what reset MCAS to activate for the 3rd time that ended it all. They could have trimmed it back and regain control.
@@kallek5655 did you remember that the mcas can activate for nothing with a broken sensor,so no even if they trimmed it back, with the electrical trim enabled the mcas was mad and can activate at any moment,thats why they dived....i agree with american pilots union,they couldnt save the plane...this is inexcusable to blame the foreign pilots for these crashes
@@Hk-uw8my I do remember, but I've also read the official report on the Lion Air crash and seen the flight data for it and the Ethiopian. MCAS could not activate at any moment, and it couldn't override the pilot's trim inputs. It could activate 5 seconds after the pilot stopped a manual trim input.
The Lion Air's flight data shows that MCAS activated something like 17 times, but the captain always noticed it and overrode MCAS with nose-up trim inputs. MCAS never trimmed for its full 10 seconds, the captain always returned the trim to the desired setting. Those are facts that are in the report.
17 times MCAS was overridden, it proves that it was possible, and one day earlier another Lion Air crew did in fact save the plane with exactly the same MCAS malfunction. That also proves that it was possible.
The report stated that the captain, for whatever reason, handed control over to the F/O, but without telling him about the rogue trim. That was the moment that it went all sour, as when the F/O was in control, MCAS was active for longer and the F/O didn't really trim it back like the captain did. His minor trim inputs allowed MCAS to reset and activate again. That was when MCAS was able to trim all the way to the end. Why the captain didn't regain control though, we don't know.
Nice video!
SKETCHY nice!
It is a great aircraft now that the problems are fixed. I also think all this will help shape Boeing to a better company.
Tell me what do I have to lose by flying the Max if something goes wrong ? I have the answer, I hope you do too.
It’s actually impossible for it to crash the way it did again
Now it is the safest aircraft on the market, they also checked the toilet siphon!!! 😀
You mean 26R????
Seems pretty quiet
💙 WS
The 737 Max will have more crashes, count on it.
The same Boeing culture is in place even when executives "say" they changed it. FAA regulations and government de-regulation are still the same since the crashes, Boeing is still fully capable and still does do their own inspections since the FAA does not have the amount of inspectors to keep up. Boeing did their own inspections that got the Max re-certified, not the FAA. The Max plane still has the same engines that cause the plane to want to tilt up which caused MCAS faults in the first place. 2 sensors instead of just 1 but still the same faulty design are still there. The same Boeing engineers that designed MCAS and the software are the same engineers that redesigned the system and software.
You'd really trust Boeing after all this? The 737 Max is still not safe, and probably never will be. There will be more crashes in the coming year as more of them begin flying.
It's a tragedy really... to think that they allowed 737 again. I mean, I just came from James Asquith channel review about it and man, don't even think of getting first class coz it's almost the same as the economy.
It’s literally impossible for it to crash the same way again
@lil yryhgfd The fixes done to the software
Risking your own life for this video lol
You made a carbon footprint to make a video. ? What a winner you are
Sounds like a vacuum.
Bit disappointed people didn't applaud on landing. Not for any awed/cringey reason but because there is a great deal of conscious anxiety about this plane and the significance of this flight can't be overstated. It would of been a nice way to have a community moment and restore actual confidence instead of bland and quiet civility.
Nonetheless let's hope the model can continue to service successful flights and Boeing can reenter our collective minds as a trustworthy and reliable aircraft manufacturer.
It didn't crash - wow.