Can You Hear The Difference Between AI and Beethoven?

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  • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
    @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +5

    Leave a comment🙌🏻

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому

      Violin: the Ysaï had mastering glitches (way over the top compression of the ambient reverb). Very easy to detect anyways.

    • @QueenAI-d3g
      @QueenAI-d3g Місяць тому

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    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому

      @@QueenAI-d3g Oof. Disagree. Just... poor stuff. It does come up with more original stuff than regular mainstream pop. But that's a terrifyingly low barrier. The semblances are impressive. The songs, the individual elements aren't very good.

    • @alecrechtiene558
      @alecrechtiene558 Місяць тому

      Part 2?

    • @sucroseboy4940
      @sucroseboy4940 23 дні тому

      It’s a shame you didn’t do any comparisons with music from composers such as Messiaen, Prokofiev or Scriabin. I think AI would be much worse at imitating music from 20th century composers, as those pieces didn’t follow a stern set of rule, in the same way that music before the 19th century did. I don’t think it’s that hard to write music that sounds like Mozart could have written it. To write music that sounds like it could have been written by Stravinsky, that’s a much greater challenge

  • @Violin_Boba_Tea
    @Violin_Boba_Tea Місяць тому +104

    I got 9/10; missed the pop one. But for the classical if you just follow the line of the music, the AI one just doesn't make any sense.

    • @lisztomani_a
      @lisztomani_a Місяць тому +4

      exactly

    • @RudolfKlusal
      @RudolfKlusal Місяць тому

      Precisely 👍

    • @treypoling
      @treypoling Місяць тому

      The pop one was actually obvious to me. Listening to the vocals you can tell the production is very poor. What’s wrong about it, I can’t exactly say haha, but it’s just scratchy and uncomfortable

    • @davidenns8287
      @davidenns8287 Місяць тому

      Bro same.

  • @d_rivadeneyra
    @d_rivadeneyra Місяць тому +91

    For me it was very clear because A.I did some reaaaaaaaally weird rhythm and phrasing choices. In the Violin and Piano ones is extremely obvious these points I think.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +2

      True🙌🏻

    • @roytee3127
      @roytee3127 Місяць тому

      Not being a violinist, I thought that the AI violin piece sounded like a bravura cadenza.

    • @d_rivadeneyra
      @d_rivadeneyra Місяць тому +2

      @@roytee3127 I'm a pianist. But even then, the rhythm is really off to what we usually hear with real composers.

    • @BenDRobinson
      @BenDRobinson Місяць тому

      How odd, I partly picked the violin one correctly because the real human one did some weird things (e.g. some slides) that I didn't think the AI would "dare" to.

    • @d_rivadeneyra
      @d_rivadeneyra Місяць тому +3

      @@BenDRobinson The thing is those "weird" things you mention are actually choices that make the phrasing make sense. + the rhythm is actually something coherent. Even in the Ravel one that had an odd rhythm, it served a purpose and made sense.

  • @JeremyJeffes-m2g
    @JeremyJeffes-m2g Місяць тому +94

    I got them all except for pop, which I think says a lot about how pop music is made - it’s just so algorithmic

    • @yoshi_drinks_tea
      @yoshi_drinks_tea Місяць тому +5

      That’s the difference between art and profit

    • @ibsulon
      @ibsulon Місяць тому +5

      For someone who listens to a lot of pop, that one was easy because of how muffled the instruments were in the second clip, but I got tricked by the opera and choir.
      The more familiar we are with the genre, the easier it is to tell.

    • @Dylonely_9274
      @Dylonely_9274 Місяць тому

      @@yoshi_drinks_teaMarx would’ve agreed

  • @sordidboot
    @sordidboot Місяць тому +103

    I have to say, as an amateur violinist, the first violin clip sounded very, very clearly artificial to me. The way that the notes came together just sounded so wrong. AI might understand how the violin sounds at a basic level, but it can't yet understand the mechanics of the violin and how that meaningfully influences the sound.

    • @iankrasnow5383
      @iankrasnow5383 Місяць тому +1

      I don't even play, but I've obviously seen people play it. I played viola for 6 months in 5th grade, but that probably didn't even leave an impression on me today.
      That one was still very obvious. I was trying to picture the person playing both pieces. The second I could imagine a person, but the second had weird phrasing that didn't make sense for a normal person with a normal bow.

    • @mswdesign9164
      @mswdesign9164 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly. It doesn't understand that there are four strings, how they can be played, etc. It's just making sounds that it thinks sounds like a voilin.

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson Місяць тому +5

      That was the easiest to detect for me. All those insane double stops...

    • @zylog
      @zylog Місяць тому +1

      @@TrevorduBuisson Yeah the double stops were a dead giveaway. Nobody plays like that

    • @Zareh_Abrahamian
      @Zareh_Abrahamian Місяць тому +2

      It indeed did not sound like violin, especially the fast passages were so mushy. Give it a couple of years and we will be done...

  • @soup6847
    @soup6847 Місяць тому +41

    i only got taylor swift and AI mixed up LMFAO maybe that says something

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +6

      Nice😂I think the pop AI song was pretty legit, nice country vibes, parallel melodies, awesome song

    • @iankrasnow5383
      @iankrasnow5383 Місяць тому

      That was the easiest one, and I didn't recognize Taylor Swift. A lot of AI pop music just sounds really similar so if you've heard enough of it, it just sticks out like a sore thumb. It's deceptive if you haven't heard AI pop music before.

    • @CAG2
      @CAG2 Місяць тому

      the lyrics were nonsensical to me, "we don't have to talk this through, you can cry the whole way too" with such an upbeat vibe doesn't make sense
      also "you got baggage, I got room" bruh
      and the random "baby" after all that just gave it away for me
      also, even without the lyrics, the voice in the first one was very clear and natural, while the second one had a kind of voice quality easier for AI to mimic imo
      aside from the lyrics I actually feel like the AI one is more musical
      Keep in mind I almost exclusively listen to classical, although I got 7/10 overall 😢

    • @erichodge567
      @erichodge567 Місяць тому

      ​@@Carl-FriedrichWelker, that AI pop song was the scariest thing in the whole video! Although maybe it's not so amazing, since contemporary pop is mostly pretty lame.

  • @bndoherty
    @bndoherty Місяць тому +24

    Fun video! As a violinist, the AI played a ton of notes that were impossible/difficult and then Vengerov playing Ysaye was so obvious.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +3

      Yes, felt like 6 notes at a time, Vengerov's recording, for those who know, I'm not a violin expert, but I think it's legendary🙌🏻

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому +1

      @@Carl-FriedrichWelker You did find some legendary pieces/performances. It was kinda a dead giveaway because, well anyone mildly interested in classical music knows the Tchaik and the Brahms. The Mozart was a good pick to fly under the radar

    • @bndoherty
      @bndoherty Місяць тому

      @@Carl-FriedrichWelker ysaye actually did write 6 note chords that have to be faked/rolled. Great ear!

    • @weldonanderson5124
      @weldonanderson5124 Місяць тому +4

      Hearing those multiple violin gestures stacked sort of reminded me of in the visual world when bad AI adds extra limbs or fingers to people! I found it actually creepy.

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому

      @@weldonanderson5124 It's actually very analogous. Uncan'tny Valley :)

  • @ThePainist
    @ThePainist Місяць тому +35

    I’m gonna be honest, I think that the selections need to be longer preferably a movement or longer to be able to tell the difference between AI and human. I feel that while an AI can mimic the sound of a human for very short intervals of music, it would have a poor grasp of structure and development compared to something composed by a human.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +1

      Most of the time yes, I heard 1-2 AI pieces, that were able to get that pretty decent🙌🏻

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому

      I agree but only for the choice of classical period

    • @Zareh_Abrahamian
      @Zareh_Abrahamian Місяць тому

      This is right for the time being, unfortunately.

    • @serox8887
      @serox8887 Місяць тому

      I think so, too. Ai can write good scenes in stories as well but as soon as ai writes a whole story where everything has to work together in order to create deeper meaning and emotion, everything falls apart.

    • @Zareh_Abrahamian
      @Zareh_Abrahamian Місяць тому

      @@serox8887 Psst! We should be careful not to help them fix their flaws 😉

  • @michellelabelle81
    @michellelabelle81 Місяць тому +17

    Violin AI one: You could hear by the number of notes played together, not as broken chords. That’s technically possible only with 2 notes (on 2 strings) the most. Here you can hear sometimes 3 notes at once, sounding like more than one instrument.

    • @simontist
      @simontist Місяць тому

      Bingo, some of these AI ones contained very awkward moves.

    • @adamsyed5535
      @adamsyed5535 Місяць тому

      Yes, especially as a violinist, the violin AI was the easiest to detect for me.

    • @Flameheart_
      @Flameheart_ Місяць тому

      Exactly what I was thinking, but had no clue how to describe it lol.

  • @jpiccone1
    @jpiccone1 Місяць тому +30

    I think they were all very obvious. Maybe film music & pop are a little harder, but the classical wasn't even close for me. The AI lacks coherence and structure, even any logic to the rhythm. That was the giveaway for the pop song too, even though the lyrics to both were bad.

    • @simontist
      @simontist Місяць тому +1

      Yes that's usually what gives away AI in written work too - lack of longer structure. Which is big in classical music. It's a bit like long chains of logical reasoning which they are also poor at (i.e. remembering). Surprised it was so obvious in these short clips actually.

  • @PensieroMetamofista
    @PensieroMetamofista Місяць тому +154

    Bruh, frickin AI is better than Taylor Swift 💀.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому +14

      Kinda true😂

    • @TenorCantusFirmus
      @TenorCantusFirmus Місяць тому +23

      Pop music by now is so standardized and all too similar one each other it practically is an algorhythm in itself. I think that's the field in which AI might eventually take over everything...

    • @timeless9517
      @timeless9517 Місяць тому +4

      Isn´t that hard

    • @PensieroMetamofista
      @PensieroMetamofista Місяць тому +2

      @@timeless9517 true.

    • @Zareh_Abrahamian
      @Zareh_Abrahamian Місяць тому +1

      I guessed that one right because I had heard it in another video about AI! We are so fkt...

  • @porridgeandprunes
    @porridgeandprunes Місяць тому +9

    The real test would be to hear the way the music develops into a complete movement rather than a few seconds where it only has to copy the sound.

  • @enelabe
    @enelabe Місяць тому +5

    I guessed all of them correctly and honestly I think any musical aficionado easily would as well. AI not only is completely tasteless, but it also doesn't understand musical forms, pacing, rhythm, how instruments work, has no directionality whatsoever and doesn't make any bold choices, surprising harmonies or anything that breaks expectations, and it never will be able to, as its abilities are literally limited to learning from what already exists. Art will always remain an exclusively human experience

  • @muzjazz3722
    @muzjazz3722 Місяць тому +1

    The AI never wins!

  • @kokomanation
    @kokomanation 11 днів тому +1

    Human music by far better than AI

  • @SomeOne-p6f
    @SomeOne-p6f Місяць тому +17

    As for Beethoven, some people can't tell the difference, to me it's glaringly obvious. You just have to know the styles to hear that AI doesn't 'understand' it. The film music would be harder to tell apart as film music doesn't generally conform to a particular style as such and generally is not on the same level in terms of musical intelligence regardless of it's complexity ( I do not mean the number of notes ) as music of that composed by say the likes of Bartok etc...

    • @ari4nova
      @ari4nova Місяць тому

      Timestamp for Beethoven?

    • @SomeOne-p6f
      @SomeOne-p6f Місяць тому +3

      @@ari4nova Of course there isn't one, I was making a reference to the title of the video. I have altered the text of my comment from 'As for Beethoven'. Of course, what I should have mentioned was classical or better yet, art music. Any AI version that I have heard makes the equivalent of an AI image in sound with the result sounding like a mismatched collection of snippets rather than a thought out planned whole.

  • @Klavieralter
    @Klavieralter Місяць тому +19

    Tchaikovsky and Ravel were dead give aways... always love to hear them... but I am proud to say I preferred the AI pop to Taylor Swift.

  • @mikechad27
    @mikechad27 Місяць тому +15

    AI sure loves cello

  • @sebastiansprotte2551
    @sebastiansprotte2551 Місяць тому +3

    The only one I didn’t guess right was the second film music one. But as you said, it sounded like a sample library or something, also the “real” piece was probably made on the computer and not with an orchestra or something. You could hear it was quite heavy in the production side of things.
    So for me it wasn’t so hard to detect the right ones, when you know where to look for clues, it’s kinda easy. The second pop tune for example had a side chain compression on the base beats, which no producer would do on a record and which is also pretty common with ai music. In the classical pieces you have to either look for background noise (like you said), and/or the quality of the sound and if both of that doesn’t work, for where the melodies are going and if you can sense a direction in the lines. This is something no ai can reproduce yet, because it cannot connect different bigger parts with each other.
    Also the instrumentation is a big thing. Countermelodies, that kind of stuff. All the ai pieces were kind of one block of sound.. the real pieces were much more differentiating in counterparts and instrumentation.
    Anyways, I’m quite stoked how far it has come with ai, but in the end nothing can reproduce a live concert with an orchestra or a band. So please go out there, support your local artists and buy their concert tickets ;)

  • @davedesigning
    @davedesigning Місяць тому +5

    Tried to get AI to recreate one of my symphonic pieces. It wasn't able to get close no matter what I tried. But.....I had it recreate the music of one of my client's, and it did it better than we ever did. (It had definitely trained on his music).

  • @MegaUpstairs
    @MegaUpstairs Місяць тому +8

    In most of classical music the majority of the listening experience comes from the interaction of themes or melodies, that come in parallel or one after another. So one cannot get the meaning of a short section even from a real composer.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      True🙌🏻

    • @xx133
      @xx133 Місяць тому +1

      True, but even with these short clips it’s clear that the AI doesn’t know how to structure the score, no dynamics, hollow. Emotionless.

  • @killerkat242
    @killerkat242 Місяць тому +11

    Yay! Got 9 correct and failed the Ravel. That tonal change at the end (Am6/ A minor with added F# maybe?) was so unexpected that I thought an AI couldn't reach such coloristic skills... yet. Awesome content, keep publishing!!

    • @Michael_Collins-xb6sz
      @Michael_Collins-xb6sz Місяць тому +1

      Same LOL. That was insane but it must have copied that progression from somewhere

    • @Izurag
      @Izurag Місяць тому

      Aa a pianist - it was obvious AI was trying to imitate piano playing, but if you imagine how you'd actually play one or the other it's easy to see second one was nonsense!

    • @uigrad
      @uigrad Місяць тому

      I missed 3 (choir, film music 2, and opera), but found the Ravel very easy.
      Maybe I've just heard enough Ravel that I could hear how the piece kept developing, but it seemed obvious that the A.I. had absolutely no plan.
      Missing the choir one angered me. The sopranos at the end of the clip took a big breath that was a bit distracting, and I just assumed the A.I. would not do that.

  • @jorgevidales9653
    @jorgevidales9653 Місяць тому

    This is actually more a test of an individual's ear and empathic sensibilities than a display of how "good" AI is at mimicking music.

  • @legenarian6811
    @legenarian6811 Місяць тому +1

    i think the best way to detect is through personal experience, like the orchestral ones, strings and piano were extremely obvious but the other ones weren't as easy because i just haven't played or heard enough of those

  • @cziffrathegreat666
    @cziffrathegreat666 Місяць тому +7

    10:52
    ngl i thought that was an ad lol

  • @arneperschel
    @arneperschel Місяць тому

    I'm a classical musician and found this pretty easy. Most of them were really obvious. I did get the three last ones wrong; film music 2 and pop (not so surprising), but also the opera fragment which is really shocking. I found the second fragment sounded like a jibberish language but still the voice sounded so human that I went with number 2. I would have thought that singing was the last thing AI would realistically imitate, but this is seriously impressive!

  • @bohumilbondarenko6425
    @bohumilbondarenko6425 Місяць тому +1

    Very interesting test, even as a classical musician I didnt ace it... But in a few cases the difference was also in the sound quality, I think an interesting variation of this test could be to just put both pieces of music in some sort of sibelius programme or smth to only evaluate the quality of the composition without getting the hints from the texture of sound...

  • @crushedhearts
    @crushedhearts Місяць тому +3

    Few opinions 1. If one has to resort to listening for whether the voice or instrument is artificial, it's already admitting you cannot tell an AI composed music if it is performed by human live performers. 2. To differentiate an AI composed piece by today's AI standard, a short fragment is no longer enough, but there will be more signs of incoherence if one listen to the entire piece, i.e. a whole song or symphony. Although that already means that human artists can already "cheat" by using an AI piece, smoothen out the imperfections, and pass it as his own. 3. AI learns by the existing music repertoire fed to its database, e.g. with a database of one type of music, it is able to create a piece with motifs, melodies, phrases in that style, hence it is easier for AI in music where existing pieces are already similar, e.g. soothing film scores. This of course brings the question of what can be defined as original, as it can be argued it is only creating variations of original human written works. Also, current AI is probably not able to pioneer an entirely new style of music the way Beethoven broke free from the style of Mozart and Haydn.

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Місяць тому +2

      The thing is, it's subjective. I didn't have to listen closely at all for 9 out of 10. Like, not even funny obvious. So the fact that "some people don't hear the difference" is like saying most people don't appreciate an expensive wine.

  • @needtoknowbasis3499
    @needtoknowbasis3499 Місяць тому +2

    One way to tell is if the musical ideas are interesting and alluring. If they aren't, then they would've already been thrown in the trash.

  • @dinmamma2604
    @dinmamma2604 Місяць тому +1

    I got 10/10, One could almost always tell what was AI because it has no idea of where the music is/should be heading. It has no direction and often has weird placements of when the melody stops and continues in relation the the harmonic context. The AI sounds like someone who has no idea on how to improvise, and has been forced to play something that sounds kinda like another piece, it's most obvious when it's a solo piece. Opera one was pretty hard for me, but I was pretty sure that the pavarotti sounding one was speaking gibberish. Pop AI was straight up corporate music 😂 Also " I was expecting some jungladic turnway"??? violin had impossible string combos, piano was unrythmic and sounded like contemporary impressionist slop that I play when I'm tired of practice, and the rest were just musically very awkward and had no idea what it was doing.

  • @berendstumphius7047
    @berendstumphius7047 Місяць тому +5

    Very interesting comparison. Thank you! Especially the film music (where even the original composers use computergenerated orchestras sometimes) are starting to get hard to distinguish. The tenor singing Mimi è tanto malata doesn't sound like Pavarotti to me, but the AI-version is definitely inspired by his voice.
    I wonder what your community (hi everyone) thinks about the implications this has for classical music. On the one hand it feels threatening that computers are getting better in imitating us musicians. On the other hand, the fact that everything we see and hear is increasingly subject to the doubt of 'is it real or AI', might also drive the audience towards the concert halls in search of the 'real' experience. It will still be some years before computers will run around on stage for four hours, singing over the orchestra on top of their lungs whilst fencing and sweating like a pig. So there might still be some hope for us poor opera singers...

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 28 днів тому

    These are so eerie!

  • @YuanHaozhe
    @YuanHaozhe Місяць тому

    Nice content, just wanna ask which ai generator website did you use?

  • @Xlappahony
    @Xlappahony Місяць тому

    Choosing such iconic pieces for the orchestra AI sadly spoiled it for me. Had known them before.

  • @philipmay3548
    @philipmay3548 Місяць тому +1

    I missed one - the opera clip. However, that was not Pavarotti. Sounded like Jussi Bjorling.

  • @YumeGt
    @YumeGt 14 днів тому

    The easy one is the Pop. There is a lot of sidechain compresion in the voice with the kick.

  • @guyedwards22
    @guyedwards22 Місяць тому +1

    Like a lot of others here, I got everything right except for the pop one. In almost every single example, the part writing from the real pieces exhibits call and response and repetition of contour, where the AI part writing just seemed to jump randomly to whatever was harmonically appropriate. Also, like you said, the quality of the sound was sometimes a complete giveaway. The piano and violin examples were unmistakable between practiced intonation/phrasing and autogenerated noise.

  • @ahora3367
    @ahora3367 17 днів тому

    They already invented an application in which all the artists recorded their voice and if their voice appears in a new song they will receive a permission notice and you will have to pay the artist if you want to use their voice

  • @bunburyd
    @bunburyd 2 години тому

    The biggest give-aways for me were that the AI doesn't always seem to know where it's going with a phrase, it seems unsure what the pulse of the music should be and there are also a lot of shifts in the sound quality as if the acoustics are changing at random.

  • @jaapcramer
    @jaapcramer Місяць тому +1

    I guessed 9 right. And I did mainly listen to counterpoint, and whether the harmonic progression was going somewhere. The first film-music, and the pop-music example, and to a lesser extent the operatic aria's, I feel there is less importance given to counterpoint. In the era's where that mattered, that was a clear give away.

  • @cedricpicard297
    @cedricpicard297 Місяць тому +5

    The first violin piece sounded like parts of it had a whole quartet in the back. It was clearly fake

  • @danielcsuja3362
    @danielcsuja3362 Місяць тому +3

    The only type where I couldn’t differentiate was the pop music. RIP Taylor

  • @TrevorduBuisson
    @TrevorduBuisson Місяць тому +2

    I only got the opera one wrong. It's very, very difficult to tell though. Especially the film music. One has to listen and assess very carefully.

    • @martinwest2538
      @martinwest2538 Місяць тому

      It's quite understandable, the (real?) voice of Pavarotti in the latter made it a tough one.

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 27 днів тому

    I also noticed with the second one (classical period), the AI one was super vague. The classical period is usually very clear, and also very metric. I couldn’t make heads or tails of the tempo in the AI one.

  • @MattSmith-il4tc
    @MattSmith-il4tc Місяць тому +1

    There was only one classical piece that I missed: the opera piece. I think the AI did an amazing job on that one. For the other ones, I was VERY confident in my guess and was correct for all of them. For the most part, it was musical structure that gave it away for me. The AI ones sounded meandering and just didn't have any sense of direction. I got the pop one right just because I've listened played around a bit with AI generators and that 2nd song was similar to some things that I've heard AI spit out before. It's impressive though.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      Agreed, structure is the one thing that is still missing🙌🏻

  • @apz202
    @apz202 Місяць тому +2

    Both the piano pieces sounded like AI to me.

  • @joseantoniogarcia-trevijan3864
    @joseantoniogarcia-trevijan3864 Місяць тому +1

    Romantic AI was amazing

  • @davedesigning
    @davedesigning Місяць тому +1

    I think it's possible for AI to eventually write really good stuff, just because it can do so many calculations fast. But it will need to grasp higher level, actually more abstract concepts and things like analogy.

    • @simontist
      @simontist Місяць тому

      To be fair it's probably just a matter of using a bigger computer.

    • @davedesigning
      @davedesigning Місяць тому

      ​@@simontist Maybe. IDK it depends upon how computing power can keep up.
      IDK if the people designing these AI programs really understand art. If they actually got someone who knew what they were doing and who devised a broad system for making artworks, the results would be truly terrifying.

  • @Nuts437
    @Nuts437 Місяць тому

    Why did the *AI* Taylor Swift feel more soothing and passionate than the real one 💀

  • @willbrooksy478
    @willbrooksy478 Місяць тому

    Hey Carl, how long on average would you say it takes to be able to read a score fluently? I can read scores but it’s not at tempo and sometimes I have to stop and break down the harmony or melody to “hear” what’s happening and maybe read over certain passages a few times. Even with Beethoven sonatas, I sometimes have to read a passage twice and slow down

  • @Izurag
    @Izurag Місяць тому +2

    10/10, we aren't there yet with AI, bro!
    Ok, some context:
    I'm a professional classical musician. The opera and pop ones were really hard, though! On the opera - to artificially imitate the second piece is simpler and Puccini has solid and complex thought, that's how I guessed correctly. I don't listen to pop music but on that one I kinda cheated - the voice was really unclear on the second one and first one really reminded me how superficial and imperfect humans can be.

    • @olly8453
      @olly8453 Місяць тому

      10/10 here too. Like you when I was unsure I focused in on the sound itself rather than the composition.

    • @lambert801
      @lambert801 Місяць тому

      I'm an amateur classical musician and I also got 10/10. I had the most challenge with film music. The opera was obvious for me: no AI could ever come close to recreating Puccini's genius.

  • @BookFurnace
    @BookFurnace Місяць тому

    Which AI program did you use here?

  • @Nazdreg1
    @Nazdreg1 Місяць тому +2

    The Violin one is easy. This AI didn't know which strings can be played together. It used impossible intervals.

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 Місяць тому

    Pop music is so hard because it is already very refined.

  • @meisherenow
    @meisherenow Місяць тому

    I got seven, but one I just recognized. It seems like the thing AI still lags on is hierarchical structure, repetition, alternation, and variations of a few parts. AI still meanders more than good human composers. But damn I'm impressed.

  • @Pamela-dv7gb
    @Pamela-dv7gb Місяць тому +1

    The thing it’s that ai has access to the thousands of classical piece made by masters so ai just has to mix,ai do the same thing when it Ned to create images

  • @Nuts437
    @Nuts437 Місяць тому

    I’m Italian and the AI opera was literally just random gibberish

  • @alexisb8491
    @alexisb8491 Місяць тому

    As an opera singer I was pretty impressed by the IA. It was imitating pavarotti's technique really well (a very poor technique, by the way, but that's another discussion). But it sounded a little bit "impersonnal" like nobody sings in such a smooth and even way. Human voice has some roughness that IA doesn't have for the moment.

  • @KirbDerp
    @KirbDerp Місяць тому +4

    You really have to know the details about every style to hear the difference between ai and human. Like the trills of the baroque style in the 2nd piece gave it away for that question.

  • @thepurrpalace3506
    @thepurrpalace3506 Місяць тому

    The interesting thing is that I could feel the emotion in human written pieces. a.i. still has to improve a lot more.

  • @thedesolatemusic
    @thedesolatemusic Місяць тому +1

    I think most people here were the same as me, all correct except pop… it speaks for itself really.

  • @Xlappahony
    @Xlappahony Місяць тому

    Love how piano AI doesn't have the guts to just let us enjoy for a second but keeps spamming away.

  • @anterix1999
    @anterix1999 Місяць тому

    Very very interesting. A few years ago AI was unable to do anything similar.
    I was able to say in all of them witch was the AI because, there is a give away: the music does not go anywhere interesting. So, in film music, that was not easy to notice also in the human example. And, like you, I also preferred the AI from the pop music.
    I completely agree with you: in 10 years, maybe we can marvel with the talent of AI.

  • @Galantski
    @Galantski Місяць тому +1

    I only missed the Opera comparison, and that because the tenor sounded better in the AI (though had I caught the "Mimi" in the lyrics I may have gotten it). The Taylor Swift was more of a guess, and there it came down to the lyrics sounding more authentic. For all the rest, the real compositions were more or less obvious, and a few I recognized the composer. All AI is a fraud, even when it comes close to true human musical inspiration, because while it may replicate intellingence, it will never have a heart. Liked & subscribed.

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 Місяць тому +1

    The third quiz is like an absolute win for me.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      What do you mean, it was too easy, or difficult?😂

    • @hoangkimviet8545
      @hoangkimviet8545 Місяць тому +3

      @@Carl-FriedrichWelker Because I realize it is from Tchaikovsky's 5th symphony immediately, so I am not hesitant to choose it as a composer work.

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      Right, mixed that up with something else haha😂

  • @markcbeaumont4670
    @markcbeaumont4670 Місяць тому +2

    If I was AI and needed a sacred text it would probably be Ave Maria. The only one I know lol

  • @sketbeast2168
    @sketbeast2168 Місяць тому +2

    What AI is this?

  • @roytee3127
    @roytee3127 Місяць тому +1

    Before hearing the answers/OP guesses:
    1: Baroque Unless this is a trick, the first sounds much more from the Classical Period, and the second sounds like typical Baroque counterpoint.
    2: Classical: First sounds genuinely Clasical (including some audience noise), the flute solo in the second sounds too Romantic
    3: Romantic: First is jumping the gun to very very late Romanticism, like Faure or Satie. I recoginize the second piece - it's genuine
    4: Choir: ?? First has accidentals with emotional weight - sounds human, possibly Mendelsshon; 2nd could be an exercise in medieval chant with too much harmony ed: Brahms Requiem??? Shoulda recognized that.
    5: Film music: First is more obvious, second is more subtle. For movie music, it doesn't make much difference whether it's composed by human or AI.
    6: Violin: The first has more structure, with more "old violin" timbre; the second is just ugly, with extremely clean violin sound. However, the first has a few ornaments that don't sound physically possible. Still, second sounds more like AI. Ed: FOOLED.
    7: Piano: A few world-class pianists can play like the first but may be physically impossible with two hands; the attacks on the second sounded more like real keys, and the key shift at the end sounded genuine. First is AI, second is human. Though I'd listen to both. FOOLED again
    8:Film 2: In the first, Instruments sounded too smooth to be real; second, the entrance of the trumpets sound like real trumpets tho fakable by AI). Second is AI, but it doesn't matter much.
    9: Opera: First is a cleaner tenor, what tenors would aspire to, though sounded a little distant; second had the slightest of imperfections on spanning the intervals, warmer voice. First is AI. FOOLED, but absolutely no apologies.
    10: Pop: First song: "Sounds like crap. Oh wait, it sounds like Taylor Swift". Second: Sterile harmonies, generic country. Sure enough, First is a genuine Taylor Swift song. Second must be AI.
    Score: 7/10 Couldn't pick up on the subtleties of late Classical/Impressionist music, or Opera.
    Interesting that the real classical music experts below didn't pick up on Taylor Swift.

  • @apz202
    @apz202 Місяць тому +1

    Maybe for the 2nd film music the first piece was written by AI but played by real musicians and the second piece was writted by a real person and played by a computer ?

  • @ElsweyrDiego
    @ElsweyrDiego Місяць тому

    5:49 on ai sample there's just some passages impossible on the violin, like notes that doesn't match for our finger to play and too many notes at the same time, even for a 4-note chord, but it sounded like 2 people doing that, so for solo violin it's impossible.

  • @qixiangsun6036
    @qixiangsun6036 Місяць тому +3

    Me at the opera: ah pavarotti it's real

  • @apz202
    @apz202 Місяць тому +1

    2.52 Luckily I knew that was Tchaikovsky

  • @domvlad
    @domvlad Місяць тому +1

    AI can compete in Film Music today.

  • @slowloris4346
    @slowloris4346 Місяць тому

    There are often just a few moments, that can either be subtle or bold, in piece that make them true works of genius even if the whole work is immaculately crafted. And I think the lack of those sorts of moments of inspiration in AI generated music will be the differentiator. Rationally, it be can hard to formulate an explanation why a model that has learned the patterns present in all music could not produce these moments. However, I would lean on the fact the scope for what could happen next (the next token for the model) is so vast and that even the highest reasonable temperature setting, a parameter specifying the degree to which it samples statistically less likely next tokens, are insufficient to capture what great artists really are able to do in moments of creative inspiration.

  • @lethargy0_035
    @lethargy0_035 Місяць тому

    8/10 is pretty solid

  • @jasonharris2291
    @jasonharris2291 Місяць тому

    Pop is already basically AI. It's a formula of computerized algorithms and whatever plugin is trendy this week.

  • @mjcollett
    @mjcollett Місяць тому

    For the film music and the pop music, I had no idea which was which, though I suspect a longer clip might have helped with the film music. Most of the classical music was obvious: the AI just meandered with no really structured phrasing. The exception is the opera. I really doubt that the 'AI' clip was actually AI; it's far better than any of the other AI examples (indeed, IMO more interesting than the Puccini it's paired with).

  • @cuttingbored4195
    @cuttingbored4195 Місяць тому

    Got them all right, but I was surprised at how close some of them were. Not too long ago it was impossible to synthesise a realistic violin sound, and that one was very nearly plausible (the sound more so than the playing).
    But just like AI writing, it seems AI music never really gets the phrasing right - it was usually clear that the one which didn’t really have a ‘point’ was AI.

  • @romanporetti
    @romanporetti Місяць тому

    As a musician, i have to say some of them were pretty hard to distinguish.
    Now let us compose Music by AI, play them with real instruments and compare them with very unknown pieces from the same Era..
    then I wonder of we d still be able to distinguish.
    Also that „Music“ and Composing is suddenly only a mouseclick apart, makes me kinda afraid of what will become of us musicians in the future. Will we take the burden of practising all those thousands of hours or taking months or years to complete a piece, a symphony if AI might be doing it maybe even better in a matter of seconds..
    Time will tell but as of know, i dont have a good feeling about how this might change us all.

  • @delyar
    @delyar Місяць тому

    Guessed every single one immediately. But I recognized most of the real examples.

    • @delyar
      @delyar Місяць тому

      The AI always would strike me immediately as being “boring”. Sorry, no cookie, AI

    • @lambert801
      @lambert801 Місяць тому +1

      Same here. The one extremely noticable quality of the AI to me was its sheer soullessness...

  • @gkal7217
    @gkal7217 Місяць тому +2

    I think this video proves more the solid foundations that music theory has than anything else. You can write a symphony in the classical and early romantic period without listening to it just by following the rules. AI follows those rules, but so did Mozart and Beethoven. What AI (and inexperienced composers) lack is a goal in a composition. That becomes obvious in an AI full concert… at least for now

    • @simontist
      @simontist Місяць тому

      I wonder if better prompting could have given it more "purpose"... Or what sorts of input it can take.

  • @tymmiara5967
    @tymmiara5967 Місяць тому

    I got 2 wrong and one where I couldn't tell the difference.
    The first baroque piece sounds heavily inspired by Pachelbel's canon in D, which gives it away as being fake. It also shows that AI essentially just interpolates between ideas that are already there in the dataset

  • @territicus
    @territicus Місяць тому

    I have heard the original Ysaye piece (thanks to twoset) and as a pianist myself recognized the ravel piece immediately. Upon hearing Swift’s music though, I thought that it was definitely AI, with the very cliched bass line. The only thing that would have hinted to me that it was real was the real sounding voice.

  • @MahlerScholar
    @MahlerScholar Місяць тому +2

    It’s not hard to tell at all. The AI phrases have zero character and say nothing to the human heart. They lack details of inventiveness and instead just imitate the overall sound they are based on, but actually sound nothing like the real thing.

  • @_julz_6912
    @_julz_6912 Місяць тому

    I got all exept one. But to be honest, i had to guess a lot of the times. Music ai sure has improved a lot in the last few years. Great video!

  • @lasalleman6792
    @lasalleman6792 Місяць тому

    If it's truly AI, it's scary good.

  • @composerdoh
    @composerdoh Місяць тому

    Yeah, the pop one was the only one I got wrong. Maybe because in pop it's so simple minded even AI can fake it. In all the other styles it reminded me of music written by a student or someone who never did any voice- leading or counterpoint exercises- the voice-leading and harmonies and counterpoint often made no sense.

  • @nate2121
    @nate2121 Місяць тому +1

    Got 9/10 but missed the opera one... The AI voice was shockingly good!

  • @marios_dimar
    @marios_dimar Місяць тому

    I found 5 out of 10...
    Specifically:
    1. Baroque ❌️
    2. Classical ✅️
    3. Romantic ✅️
    4. Choir ✅️
    5. Film Music 1 ✅️
    6. Violin ✅️
    7. Piano ❌️
    8. Film Music 2 ❌️
    9. Opera ❌️
    10. Pop Music ❌️

  • @crtusr
    @crtusr Місяць тому

    I could guess correctly 6 out of 10.
    Baroque: first one the notes too equal, the composition sounded weird but that is more subtle.
    Classic: the rhythm of the (flute?) In yhe secon example sounded weird, this one was harder to tell apart.
    Romantic: the harmonic direction felt off IMHO.
    Choir: the text was clearer in the first example ("christe eleison" i heard). The second one I heard "Ave..." but I couldn't hear a coherent text.
    Film music: I failed miserably, they sounded the same to me, since the orchestra sounds somewhat minimalistic in both examples it is really hard to tell them apart.
    Violin: this one was really blatant to me, the first one was really chaotic, and I could not imagine what was the violín doing, the second one was much more coherent in its ideas.
    Piano: this was harder (and I'm a pianist myself) but the second one sounded somewhat mechanical in its touch.
    Film music 2: epic fail, I could not get it right.
    Opera: I made a mistake, I chose the second on the base I heard Pavarotti. So fail.
    Pop music: Sorry Ms. Swift your song sounded too generic to me, I was biased to expect songs in english to have more rhythmic complexity, so I chosed the second one as real, I Failed. In retrospective the lyrics were more coherent in the first one.
    Overall 6/10

  • @YumeGt
    @YumeGt 14 днів тому

    The AI have some problems on mixing and overdub some lines over the top. Also the reverb.

  • @apacheaccountant9757
    @apacheaccountant9757 Місяць тому

    It wasn’t too hard to distinguish AI from human composer. As the author said, AI don’t have direction of melody and it’s unclear what composer wanted to say. I think it would be more obvious for longer passages. However, it’s easier when it’s known that one part is composed by AI.

  • @actualman908
    @actualman908 Місяць тому +2

    10/10, piano would've been tough if I wasn't a diehard ravel fan

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz Місяць тому

      The second piece actually sounded like Philip Glass in a rare moment of inspiration...

    • @cziffrathegreat666
      @cziffrathegreat666 Місяць тому

      no... the AI piano had very uneven notes, more like piano notes flowing like a violin, lacking clarity and structure

    • @actualman908
      @actualman908 Місяць тому

      @@cziffrathegreat666 I mean I don't believe that's a valid reason to judge. I'd more look at the structure of the music itself. The midi-player was very clearly not the best but the AI itself was impressive

    • @cziffrathegreat666
      @cziffrathegreat666 Місяць тому

      @@actualman908 it is quite a valid reason... we're comparing AI, getting notes uneven is pretty much a failure of a 'perfect' machine

    • @actualman908
      @actualman908 Місяць тому

      @@cziffrathegreat666 That's not the point of the video. Need I say more?

  • @sqrti8825
    @sqrti8825 Місяць тому +1

    Got 9 correct, and wrong about the pop song. If every clip is 1 min long at least, the classical part will be much easier (AIs don't remember what they did during counterpoint...yet).

  • @samueljett7807
    @samueljett7807 Місяць тому +2

    How were the AI clips generated?

    • @JasonHead
      @JasonHead Місяць тому

      At least one was Udio from what he mentioned in the second half

  • @matiasrubiola1042
    @matiasrubiola1042 Місяць тому

    the violin piece i figured out becouse it sounded extremely difficult if not impossible, like played by two violins. I have composed for violin but i dont play the instrument, so If any violinist read this please let me know your impression, thanks

  • @KuroKisakiCovers
    @KuroKisakiCovers Місяць тому

    I just mistook the last one because it sounded a little like Miley Cyrus to me. The violin one was so damn clear for me, because the Ysaye captures you instantly into space. So I got 9/10 right. Nice video. ^^

  • @BANERJEEWB
    @BANERJEEWB Місяць тому

    I got 10/10, really confused on the baroque one. But the AI music is lively and fun with interesting rhythm.

  • @Pogouldangeliwitz
    @Pogouldangeliwitz Місяць тому +2

    10/10. The AI still has to be born/programmed that fools my superlative ears & neurons.
    On a side note, film music doesn't really count, coz most film music composer's ambition seems to be to sound like a deficient AI.
    Nor does pop music, coz pop = poop, as we classical music lovers know all too well. 😉

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      I'm sorry, but I don't agree. I don't think film music is worse than classical, and I also don't think that pop is totally bad at all. Just listen to the new Linking Park Song, not technically Pop, but amazing open.spotify.com/intl-de/track/2PnlsTsOTLE5jnBnNe2K0A?si=19e30dfa55614900

  • @CAG2
    @CAG2 Місяць тому +2

    I got fooled by the AI violin one because I heard breathing, but seems AI has picked up on that :(
    btw in the future, I would prefer some audio cue marking when the different excerpts start/end. I like to listen to these things with my eyes closed and I actually couldn't tell that you had switched to the second excerpt in some cases

    • @Carl-FriedrichWelker
      @Carl-FriedrichWelker  Місяць тому

      Haha, thanks for the information, I will do that next time, at least I know now, that I can do good transitions in video editing haha🙌🏻