CMS vs WSET • Which wine certification is right for me?

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[@wineforthepeople]

Your determination of FOH vs BOH for the two certifications is spot and and clears up a lot of confusion - I feel like most members of the public just assume wine experts are all somms

[@BM-ru7ef]

Whichever you take, please consider the following advice: seriously study wine (and all that encompasses), taste lots and lots of wines and taste a very wide variety of foods. I did take and pass the intro to sommelier course about five years ago put on by the CMS. It was a short, yet very comprehensive course. My instructors were very(!) accomplished in wine and hospitality, and genuinely nice guys too…. I had a leg up cause I’d been in the business about 6 years at the time and had received a comprehensive education on it by Gallo of all companies. If you go the CMS route, the Deductive Tasting Method is real, and focusing on it will serve you well.

[@aliciam7677]

This video was very helpful. I took the WSET 1 exam this past weekend

[@rich7725]

As someone who has taken and passed both WSET level 3 and the CMS Certified qualifications I disagree here. The theory component of WSET level 3 was more complex and challenging than the CMS Certified Theory exam. However the speed and the volume of information involved in the 2 days of speed lectures that build up to the CMS Certified exam creates a level of pressure that makes the CMS method and experience more intense at this level - even if I found the questions are not as difficult.

[@simply417guy]

Fantastic information, I’ve been looking for a concise summary comparison of the 2 for a long time, thank you 🙏🏼

[@StefanLeijon]

Where would you rate the difficulty level between Master of Wine and Master Sommelier? As I understand it, MW goes quite a bit beyond WSET Level 4 Diploma.

[@tagsizemeezy2329]

this was my exact question

[@bobpaulinskimasterofwine]

@@tagsizemeezy2329 The WEST diploma level is commonly the entry point to begin study in the Master of Wine program.

[@ClappingForChlamydia]

Cute boy talking about wine! Love it

[@theanti-winesnobclub2276]

Can you make a video on the different career path with the different certifications?

[@desmondmadry853]

Could you still be considered a Somm without going thru CMS?? Can you still be a Certfiied Somm (Level 2) if you pass Wset Level 2?

[@Culver9]

not

[@bharatg4934]

hi,very helpful video...just wondering do CMS provide course aswell on other than introductory level or just provide certifications ?

[@FC-kx7vy]

Does the WSET certification allow a person to say they are a sommelier? Or does that only come with the actual Sommelier certification? Thanks

[@OliveOath]

"Sommelier" just generally denotes a role in a venue not an actual classification or certificate
you could technically say "You are a Certified Sommelier with the Court of Master Sommeliers" if you managed to pass CMS 2 but being a Somm is working the role of a Somm
as someone who has WSET 3 CMS 2 & is currently studying for the insanity of CMS Advanced, it's more aligned with working as an ON the floor Sommelier, but the intensity of the CMS course is absolutely absurd.

[@FC-kx7vy]

@o.kgallagher2119 Wow thanks for that in depth reply. Well said. I appreciate it.

[@kellyjernigan9383]

This was so helpful! Thank you!!

[@paragchaturvedi3661]

Can I do one and the do the other? I want a career in Wine, I'm being trained for a career in hospitality right now, but I do't know what KIND of career I want. WSET sounds a little easier in this video.

[@yogeshbharati9358]

Not only wine what about other spirit knowledge? Which course is better?

[@uzomagar6632]

Great information about the both studies

[@ellahope3654]

This was really helpful, thank you !

[@TrueWine]

So happy to hear that! Keep us posted on which certification you work towards!

[@ellahope3654]

@@TrueWine I have my Level 1 WSET and I am going for my Level 2!

[@knowledgelibrary1141]

Can one go through both programs? Is it advised or would it be basically redundant?

[@OliveOath]

getting up to WSET 3 and CMS 1 are semi on par and not redundant, but once going towards WSET Diploma or CMS Cert + above you'll find conflicts in the courses

[@jeroen81a]

When will you have your app ready for Android?

[@jasonclark4680]

excellent and concise upload

[@shalom_boy]

I'm about to do WSET 1,2,3 and after this video it feels like I'm 100% on the right track.

[@deanmyers6762]

I'm thinking the same. I prob could pass 1 now with what I know. Its just fro my enjoyment...were you pleased with the program? thanks

[@garba88]

I have WSET2 and I appreciate it gave me an excellent structure but I find the syllabus way too biased towards French wine. I was hoping for a more world eye view

[@naturevstravell4125]

This is really helpful
Thanks

[@sweettanines]

Hy there! Quick question...do you have to do one before the other, for example can you jump straight to wset 3 or certified cms before doing the previous levels? Thanks!

[@EadricRicmund]

you can skip WSET 1, but after that you need to do consequitively i.e. 2, 3 and then 4.

[@ivanpejanovic7627]

I belive you can even skip lvl2, an go for lvl3 right away, although it is better to undergo lvl2 for better understanding of lvl3

[@atharvnanaware3632]

Wset certificate can get me through what kind of job?

[@botrytis_cinerea]

Jobs within the wine industry. Off or on-trade, the choice is yours.

[@anantambisht4895]

Are you indian???

[@atharvnanaware3632]

@@anantambisht4895 yes

[@user-ip7hd1ol8z]

Do I need any work experiences as a server or beverage service to take CMS introductory and Certified CMS course and exams?

[@TrueWine]

It's not a requirement to have service experience, though in a CMS exam you will be expected to conduct yourself like someone who does. You can practice those techniques on your own, though!

[@MrPolimorf]

So my WSET level 2 is not at the level of intro at CMS? Are you for real? If it is only about creating pressure over people, it is a test of supporting pressure. I had enough of it working in hospitality for over 25 years as a waiter, butler and sommelier in charge of a wine bar in five stars hotels in Dubrovnik. And here we come to the absurdity as someone with the knowledge of an MS is realy not needed in hospitality industry because no matter what level of service you do, there is no place to apply what you know unless you have a Master of Wine or another Master Sommelier coming for dinner and you have only that table to do. One is more about the service and the other about the industry and production. Aples and oranges. Frend of mine who is a winemaker, graduated from University of Zagreb, Faculty of Agrobiotechnical Sciences (viticulure and winemaking) attended also Bordeaux Wine School for six months and belive me, knows more about what makes a good wine than any sommelier I ever met but it is not something that you realy need in restaurant where people come to enjoy wine and food along with some quality informations but not to pass an exam. And yes, is this video sponsored by CMS?

[@anaisjk]

Helpful video. Do you have any book recommendations?

[@alexiscossman6334]

Wine folly and windows on the world helped me a lot

[@shivachaurasiya7723]

Can you please make True wine app for Android???

[@anantambisht4895]

I dont think it is in india but good luck

[@sliefox9453]

If you want to be a winemaker or work with the actual science of wine go back to college

[@chrisrobinson8163]

Wset is a joke