I think the Suns needs to regroup and stick to their roster. If a fine coach came, they can bring out the full potential of their big three. Like how about Beal and Durant manage to subbing out on each other and Booker will try to handle one of his teammates at a time on the floor? How about that? Sounds crazy but you are correct regarding of KD playstyle and at his age, it's really hard to change it quickly as because it was his playstyle since he got his first NBA finals appearance. But if this is a downfall, what about Lebron?
@@oladipupoajani, Hell yeah he’s fun to watch. But if he plays my Thunder, I will have to downplay his game 😂😂. Dort clamping his ass if we meet in the WCF 😂😂. This T Wolves team is gonna make Denver work.
Hence why I dont pick him over Curry or LBJ. LBJ has his moments of making excuses and avoiding accountability but his IQ and willingness to command his team still makes him a very valid leader. KD will never possess the leadership qualities that those 2 guys have. KD was a bus rider who temporarily got handed the keys by the guys who built the bus.
As a suns fan, i completely lost interest in this team as soon as they traded away two of my favorite young players for a past his prime KD who had just came off of multiple injury riddled seasons and has never once in his life proven that he can be THE guy on a real championship level team. They took a young team that was fun to watch and turned them into a joke.
They set off a complete nuke, they could have years of success and making a culture and young core, but nope, let's just throw all of that away! What a freaking joke.
I agree, even though I believe we got less out of Beal. I wouldn't mind seeing both of them go and wouldn't be mad if Booker was gone too. I hated the Durant/Beal additions pretty much since they happened. No ball movement, not grit, no defense, Iso ball being your offense, so many issues. AND most of all, they were boring to watch. I felt like I wasn't even watching basketball. The good teams are good at moving the ball and moving without the ball. Chemisty is huge and these "sport" guys don't understand this.
Its hilarious how people still continue to make excuses for this dude's failures year after year but have the nerve to put him in a convo with Lebron, Curry, Kobe & Mj. I've been saying for years that KD's lack of true leadership is what will always leave him at a disadvantage when It's time to have conversations about comparisons between the greats. I still have Curry higher than KD all-time and its been that way for the past 7 seasons for me. The same folks who called me crazy are slowly but surely coming to their senses. Can you imagine if you gave Curry or Lebron the superteams that KD has had in these past 3 years alone?
KD has 3 options to preserve what little legacy he has left: 1) Stay. If he finishes his career in Phoenix, it will showcase a change in his attitude and perception of his impact. 2) Join a Seattle expansion team if they have one. 3) Go back to OKC. That’s assuming they’d even want him at any point in their next few years of developing an amazing, youthful core. So considering how doubtful the other two options are. He needs to gtf off Twitter, not try and coach or influence the team, and just do the one thing we all agree we can count on, which is to just show up and play basketball. It’s the only thing about his last 7-8 years that is uncontroversial about him. You can count on him to show up and play the right way. What you can never count on him for is to be happy about it.
Curry and Thompson is just perfect for KD. I mean perfect fit. It cannot be replicated by Booker, Irving, Harden and Beal. So wherever KD goes, his not gonna win one.
Used to not believe in the narrative that KD sold his soul for those two championships but now I’m starting to believe it lmao he has had failure after failure ever since signing on with the strongest team in nba history. He asked for championships and now he’s paying the price
@@Ilovemylightskinqueens most people remember that for him leaving OKC and the weakest move in NBA history, personally I don't care that's just what I see from a lot if videos and content
His decision was ALLLOOOOT worse than Bron’s though. Bron joined 2 All Stars on a 40 win team and the league was STILL extremely competitive in the early 2010’s. KD joined 3 All Stars, a 2 time MVP, arguably the GREATEST TEAM ever assembled, all in their prime that won a title 2 years prior. And the league wasn’t competitive. It was a forgon conclusion the Warriors were gonna win, the only question was who were they gonna play in the finals.
@@condorgaming4000 Absolutely not because like i said the West was STACKED in the early 2010’s, and the Pacers, Knicks, and Bulls were all good teams in the East, so it coulda gone either way. When KD joined the Warriors it was a forgon conclusion. Shit wasn’t even exciting. EVERYONE knew they was gonna win
@@jaycasado5029yeah but Lebron became way more hated for the decision than KD ever was it was not even close. Hell even Osama Bin Laden interpreter said that what Lebron did was a complete disgrace so there you go.
@@jaycasado5029 No it wasn’t Lebrons time in the East was so weak after moving to the Heat/Cavs his other competitors were an aging Boston, a Bulls team that never recovered, and a Toronto team led by Lowry and Derozan lol
*_"I JUST WANNA HOOP"_* every time the going gets tough. Basically described KD. A great "SCORER", a great "HOOPER" but not on MJ, Kobe, and other greats' mentality as an "NBA" Superstar. He just want the hooping part but NBA is not just hooping.
It was too easy with the GSW. They kept their core, which was already a championship contender, and added KD on top. They were so crazy good that nobody else really had a chance (when they were healthy). KD thought he could go elsewhere and win with similar ease. He is learning the hard way.
@stevonwhite8933 a none simple minded liberal individual one. Go do some research and get a better understanding. You peasants are common folk. I'm not not common.
This is why i view KD as a glorified Melo. As time goes on and other it becomes apparent that KD needed the Warriors way more than they ever needed him. People love pretending like the Warriors wouldn't have sniffed the finals again after blowing that 3-1 lead, as if they weren't one game and a healthy Center away from making history.
If you think warriors woulda won in 17 or 18 without kd ur meat rider aunt no watmy they winning against the cats u can look up every interview after the 2016 finals and see how csvs took they will to win. In by ur logic why curry ain't win in 2019 he and him Drayton and steph and iffy and lost in 6
@@karnasinghjawanda9596you crazy as hell bro how TF you think they signed another superstar they had salary cap so trust me if not KD somebody else would’ve been there and they already didn’t need anyone else anyway they was just in the finals two years straight not to mention who was a threat to golden state in the west ?
He thinks winning is just showing up on the court and getting whatever he wants. Teams have to tough it up and this is what we want to see from other teams like the nuggets, bucks and Celtics. Get to the finals a number of times and get respected
Kerr was all about ball movement & the triangle offense. The coach got Curry, Klay and Draymond to buy in to that philosophy. Durant never saw it, as he felt to be the main focal point. That is why Draymond and KD had that fight, as Durant believe he should have the ball in his hands and final shot. KD selfish ways will never allow him to win another championship.
That Beal trade is probably the dumbest trade in their history. Dude is injury prone, getting 50 mil and barely gives you 16 points her game when he does play. They should have just kept Chris Paul and traded Ayton for depth.
CP was the key. Whether they traded for Beal or not, gettin rid of CP was always gonna make a huge difference. And they trade him to a team that didn’t need him. But phoenix had no PG. nobody to control the game. It’s more than bringing the ball up and some guys consistently overlook that
Facts! Chris Paul has had positive effect everywhere he has gone. OKC went from lottery to playoff team with CP3 and Suns went from lottery to Finals. Bradley Beal has played entire career in a less competitive East and never really had an impact on winning. Beal can score and facilitate a little bit but his game doesn't fit what Phoenix needed. They were better off even before trading for KD. They should've kept Bridges and Johnson and all that cap space
it wasnt dumb! they didnt mesh he was in and out all season back broken face etc. no excuse just facts it matters those types of injuries will def have your game off! i know! especially that back whatever is wrong with it just noway you can be yourself
Use to be a massive KD fan but when he left OKC it made me lose a lot of respect for him . Haven’t really followed basketball much the last few years but every time I see KD trending it’s never good . Shame how things have worked out for him recently . Also your videos are great , my go to page for hoops news
Honestly i feel no petty KD he had the perfect situation in Goldenstate. He never learned that having a balabced team is whats wins... the suns NEED a PG to get this team moving in the right direction
When will teams learn that “super teams” only work when the players complement each other. A team with a great PG like Halliburton adding KD and Booker with a motion based offense would work well. Having 3 ISO heavy players that aren’t great defenders simply doesn’t work
People always say this about KD, but not one team outside of Golden State has been a complete team. Dude can play his ass off, but he needs defensive pieces too. In no way shape or form is he gonna lead a team, that’s just not who he is. The iso ball on both Brooklyn and Phoenix was their downfall. Dude gets hated on for absolutely no reason
Not worst player, but worst superstar leader. He has little to no leadership qualities outside of being able to lead by scoring. That only takes you but so far when you're on a team full of solidified bucket-getters. Hes not (NOR will he ever be) that guy who gathers the soldiers into a huddle and holds them accountable while vocalizing everything that needs to be done to win.
KD has been mimicing what Lebron did for a long time a decade at least, but KD did everything worse. Now, people finally done with Lebron's bullshit, there is no tolerance against KD too, he got what he deserves, he will be remembered but not really respected because other than those jumpers, what's there to respect? His loyalty to teammates and friends? there is none.
What lebron accomplished makes me respect him way more after this kd debacle. Kd is the greatest scorer ever. Arguabley the 2nd greatest player in this gen and he couldn’t recreate nothing close to what lebron did. Man everybody would universally put him top 10 but he keeps failing. Shows how hard it is to
@@Viewingviewer3 There is no KD without Bron, he oppened the door to this ring chasing bullshit. The most influential thing to happen to basketball wasn't Curry shooting threes the explosion of threes was happening before Curry and would have continued without him, it has been a 30 year steady trend. No, the most impactful moment for basketball was "the decision" when it became clear that star players were now entitled to collude with other superstars to make super teams and chase championships, complain when things don't go their way, blame the coach, jump ship to a new team etc.etc. This is now the league. Thanks to LeBron.
@@gamble777888 So many superteams existed before the Heat. Heck the Celtics came together only 3 years prior. Just because they were built via trades doesn't mean they weren't superteams. You are just a hater.
@@jerry-r-4067 Of course it matters. The Big 3 of Miami was the first time three superstar top 10 NBA players including the reigning MVP, a player who finished top 5 in MVP voting the season prior, and Bosh who finished 7th in MVP voting two seasons prior, actively colluded, took pay cuts, circumventing cap restrictions to get together and ring chase. Literally ZERO examples in the history of the NBA of superstars in their Prime doing that.Also the Celtics big 3 was already ageing (Allen and Garnett both 31+ and in their 10th and 13th seasons respectively), and none of those guys "forced" trades to the Celtics, the way KD later forced himself into both BKN and PHX, and AD to the Lakers, Harden to BKN and Sixers etc. The "decision" was literally the moment all superstars in the NBA were given the green-light to collude and ring chase, and it became a common thing when in the past it never happened, and any superstar who pulled something like that would have been ridiculed and immediately taken out of any "greatest" conversation.
Talent can only take you far enough Chemistry will take you definitely farther But add that 2 together with hardwork will reach a limitless possibility
Spo didn’t learn spread offense from Chip Kelly. That’s a lie LeBalco told because he hates Pat Riley. Pat Riley refused to fire Spo when Bron wanted him to be the fall guy. They didn’t know Bron couldn’t read a zone defense and couldn’t shoot when they got him in Miami. So the entire team changed around Bron cause Bron wouldn’t change. Bosh became a jump shooter - Wade, the far better scorer, became the set up man. Bron tried to have Spo fired. When the Heat couldn’t carry Bron he went back to Cleveland and made Kevin Love into exactly what Bosh was - making them both FAR worse. Then the Heat went out and got Ray Allen to come off the bench and Shane Battier and a bunch of other vets. Battier said he realized Bron couldn’t read a zone defense and Bron was too proud to admit it and Battier taught him.
Bron's career could have been the same as KD's if Riley didn't tell him to stfu. The Heat stuck together and improved as a team instead of blowing the team up, something that Bron always did when things didn't go his way.
Oh please. Lebron had already developed a shot by the time he got to the Heat and only got more efficient while he was there. He was one of the most efficient volume scorers in the league. And while I'm sure Lebron picked Battier's brain because he was one of the smartest players in the league, the idea that Lebron couldn't read a zone is ridiculous. Further, Lebron carried the Heat that last year, not the other way around.
Lebron took 4 first time coaches to Titles😂 LeBron won two more rings without Erik, whos done nothing but lose in the Finals since, which is praised by Heat losers as Heat culture”😂. Youd have one ring without Lebron, and that one was ref assisted😂
@@antcantcook960 Just noting that he only took two first-time coaches to rings. Spoelstra (twice, though he'd been the coach before Lebron's arrival)) and Lou. The other coach was Vogel, who'd already coached the Pacers and the Magic before the Lakers hired him.
What people fail to realize KD is not a leader he’s the guy who wants to go join a team only if the team is cool or they already good he cannot go to a team and be the leader and change whatever is going on. Why can’t he say you know what I’m going to change what’s going on here we’re gonna be a winning team. Bring me this guy and this guy but No, he wants to go to a team that’s already establish because he doesn’t know how to be a leader he’s a follower. . You can be great or you want, but you’ll never be a great player. And that’s what separates a leader from a follower .
Fans in every sport have always had a hard time classifying players who's mentality doesn't match their talent. Fact is, and I said this after OKC lost to the Warriors in the 2016 WCF, KD is a number 2. He wants to be recognized as a #1 without the responsibility that comes with it. He wants to "just hoop" he doesn't want to LEAD.
KD leaving OKC after blowing the lead against the Warriors and then JOINING them the following year killed my love for the game for a long time. It wasnt until 2023 that I finally came back to my OKC Thunder
At the end of the day, post career, he’ll be set for life. A life of luxury and peace. 60% of Americans say they won’t be able to retire. KD will be fine.
I think the only way KD saves his career is to go back to the Thunder become the Vet that Chet learns from like SGA did with CP3. They win the championship with KD as a comeback hero but only if the thunder don’t win this year if they do he’s a cupcake again
I'm always amazed at the stupidly big contracts some of the older superstars get. At what point is winning a chip more important than just stacking more money on top of your already huge pile of money? Take less on your contract, get better players around you. Every time they move teams they gut the team to do it and wonder why they suck. Realise you're not as good as you used to be and time to get a ring is running out. Maximize your chances.
Crazy - I don’t know how many times I gotta say KD ain’t shit before people finally catch on. KD ain’t shit lol dude needs a PR manager to make decisions for him
I will always be a KD fan, but I LOVE how this has made the "Warriors needed KD more" camp look so stupid. Kd and GS needed each other, but KD needed the Warriors WAAAAY more than they needed him. Its been proven over the last 4 years. That said, I hope someday I can go to a GSW game where his jersey is retired in Chase center, I still love watching him play and always root for him to go off for 40 in any game thats not against GS
Both drastically underperformed their talent level and circumstances in terms of championships produced, both soft as charmin, and with an allergy towards accountability.
His biggest mistake was thinking he was too good for the warriors and leaving an amazing team. Imagine how many chips they would’ve won if they stayed together. I mean he already made the choice to form a super team, why leave?? Why not stand on your decision and be a great team player regardless of what the haters were saying. Now we KNOW warriors didnt need him. Smh.
He can't be serious. There is no plane of existence in which Kevin Durant is even in the Top 10 of GOAT conversations. He is just NOT that guy. He never has been.
KD moved to the 72 win Warriors and ruined the league for 2 years. Now the karma train is catching up with him. He's built 2 superteams of his own since then and failed miserably.
I hate that they're gonna blame Frank Vogel For all of this failure They hired a defensive head coach with a offensive team And no good defense of pieces around and they wonder why they lost And Kevin Durant not taking blame is just showing He's not gonna try to rely on the teammates not just Booker And Bradley bill that was a terrible pick up who the hell thought Bradley bill was a good superstar in the beginning to pick Somebody must have been smoking crack in the Phoenix front office
ya'll couldn't carry KD gym bag...it's crazy how people talk crazy about one of the most efficient scorers the game has ever seen...wasn't KD fault c19 hit and kyrie didn't want to take the shot, or that new york mayor wouldn't let him play, or that james harden had a bad hamstring...KD showed up did what he had to do..almost beat a fully load bucks team by himself.the suns trade for beal, not his fault beal couldn't stay healthy, not his fault beal didn't show up in the playoffs...KD showed up and did what he had to do...not to mention he's still playing at a high level after blowing out his achilles tendon...people really upset with KD because he join the warriors, the team that by the way also begged him to join them, and he stopped the socalled king run...smdh
Since you have the most generic name ever it leads me to believe you are KD hi 👋 I know you're track record lol and if you're not KD stop meat riding him he's a fucking multi millionaire who puts a piece of rubber through a nylon net... Nothing special is he a great player sure is he a god amongst men sadly no so please just live your life and let others people live theirs without telling people they need to treat someone like a god who's never done anything of importance it is his fault he left OKC and completely destroyed his reputation it is his fault he goes through coaches twice a week it is his fault he acted like a toddler and made fake accounts to defend himself you're probably one of them is he good sure does he deserve people like you defending him at every turn no
Trading Chris Paul ruined the Suns, it’s not Kev’s fault. Then the Suns then doubled down and played an entire season with no PG. you could get away with that with Lbj because he’s basically a pg, but not with KD. The small sample size we got with CP3, Boom & KD was absolutely beautiful basketball.
Suns fan here, I was against Durant for how he treated Nash then they did Bridges dirty. We should have just got a point guard for Ayton, like Lillard not overpriced broke down KD. The easiest way to find him in the playoffs was to look for the guy moving the slowest, no joke. However I always give him respect for winning a gold medal for USA basically by himself.
Yup he should have just stayed with the Warriors. But when he left he taught Brooklyn with Kyrie, James Hardy, like supposed to be stack with Nash as coach and then came back sucking
every team kd is put on someone ends up playing bad then kd plays 48 mins shooting 100 shots a game and being expect to play like wemby, jason kidd, and kawhi, while also average 50, 50, 50
I feel like the average players are so damn good that having a super team doesn't mean that much. Having 1 superstar and a solid cast of role players is just better.
tbf, MJ, who’s everyone’s pick as the GOAT, lost in the first round multiple times. you can argue that MJ’s losses were because those were his first three seasons in the league, keep in mind that lebron is 40 and he shouldn’t even be competing as the number 1 or 2 option in a playoff team. not saying lebron is the goat (MJ is #1 all time for me), but you need to keep the same energy when using a specific criteria to downplay some players.
@@jhdivinaonce again. Lebrons age is his shield and sword. Of course this counts against his legacy. He's getting paid 50m but laker fans are wrong to expect so much out of him???? GET HIM TF OFF OUT OF LA
@@manz7860 not trying to defend lebron here. i’m just attacking his hypocritical argument. I couldn’t care less where lebron ends up in the goat conversation. on my personal list, he’s barely top 5 (MJ, kareem, magic, bill, bron/wilt). it’s just an annoying argument to discredit lebron altogether and call him pathetic just because he lost in the first round, when players before him that are considered in the goat conversation have went out the same way.
@dr.wolfstar The fact that you and others came here to a KD video to specifically talk abt Bron lol we'll that says alot abt you now doesnt it?? Yea patheic is right , your hating obsession is pathetic
They only way they get rid of him is if he agrees to it. He still has a no trade clause in his contract, he can literally say “F yall, pay me my money”. So he has final say on any trade that involves him. The trade was terrible to begin with smh.
What do you think should happen with KD and the Suns now?
Jesus loves you and may God bless
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I think the Suns needs to regroup and stick to their roster. If a fine coach came, they can bring out the full potential of their big three. Like how about Beal and Durant manage to subbing out on each other and Booker will try to handle one of his teammates at a time on the floor? How about that? Sounds crazy but you are correct regarding of KD playstyle and at his age, it's really hard to change it quickly as because it was his playstyle since he got his first NBA finals appearance.
But if this is a downfall, what about Lebron?
Stick to it strap up and try try again
You never seen a star fail repeatedly? lol have you ever heard of LEBRON? @mj2kallday
"They got KD, but we got Jaden Mcdaniels." aged like fine wine.
McDaniels was guarding Booker that series, but the point still stands 😂😂
@@VictoriesAtTheMarathon Antman is something else
@@oladipupoajani, Hell yeah he’s fun to watch. But if he plays my Thunder, I will have to downplay his game 😂😂. Dort clamping his ass if we meet in the WCF 😂😂. This T Wolves team is gonna make Denver work.
Huge facts
They should've traded for Jaden and Jonathan Isaak they would've had an elite defense to compensate for KD and Booker
KD wants to be number 1 but won’t do the mental work of leadership and accountability that comes along with it. That’s true entitlement.
Based on what recent interview
Hence why I dont pick him over Curry or LBJ. LBJ has his moments of making excuses and avoiding accountability but his IQ and willingness to command his team still makes him a very valid leader. KD will never possess the leadership qualities that those 2 guys have. KD was a bus rider who temporarily got handed the keys by the guys who built the bus.
@@ididntaskverified3663based on his entire career. Never once seen this dude be a leader.
@uhok6712 not even once. He got too big for his britches at GSW until Dray reminded him he was a bus rider.
Lbj hasnt been a real leader since argusbly 2016-2018. His body language and tantrums are laughable@@lonetrap
The way KD’s teams build rosters is just like how I played in 2k when I was 12.
He didn't build any team or any roster
@@Lemonpepperwett literally said KDs team not KD himself! reading is fundamental! comprehend
@@Lemonpepperwett reading comprehension is important mate
Maybe this guy is 12@@noleyestoad4477
Kd sucks as a leader and gm honestly why does he choose teams who have no defense just scoring
As a suns fan, i completely lost interest in this team as soon as they traded away two of my favorite young players for a past his prime KD who had just came off of multiple injury riddled seasons and has never once in his life proven that he can be THE guy on a real championship level team. They took a young team that was fun to watch and turned them into a joke.
They set off a complete nuke, they could have years of success and making a culture and young core, but nope, let's just throw all of that away! What a freaking joke.
I agree, even though I believe we got less out of Beal. I wouldn't mind seeing both of them go and wouldn't be mad if Booker was gone too. I hated the Durant/Beal additions pretty much since they happened. No ball movement, not grit, no defense, Iso ball being your offense, so many issues. AND most of all, they were boring to watch. I felt like I wasn't even watching basketball. The good teams are good at moving the ball and moving without the ball. Chemisty is huge and these "sport" guys don't understand this.
@@derekwong809 blows my mind how these "professional analysts" thought the Suns were going to win it all. I knew this team was going to fail.
I felt that one. Sorry my guy
I’ve been saying for years that kd wasn’t that in golden state it was curry
Kevin Durant: “What havnt I done?”.
The World: “Be self aware.”.
Or play defense
Or fix that mess of a hair
Lol blud think people care about what he says, chill why should he be self aware while he is making million ?
@@TheTariqibnziyad Because it's what's best for u as a person
@@TheTariqibnziyadbecause he wants money and respect. You can’t buy respect.
KD will forever be remembered as the GBRoAT- Greatest Bus Rider of All Time
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😂😂😂😂😂😂man, that is SAVAGE! Send this to Barkley!!
Reaching with that acronym but you get an A for effort 😅
He is the ultimate Scottie Pippen
KD can’t win a ring without Steph, but Steph can win rings without KD.
Man, I know this doesn't matter to you, but I learned English by watching your videos, you speak so well that I understand all of you say.
Sir, he is speaking French.
😂😂😂😂😂@@derekwong809
Its hilarious how people still continue to make excuses for this dude's failures year after year but have the nerve to put him in a convo with Lebron, Curry, Kobe & Mj. I've been saying for years that KD's lack of true leadership is what will always leave him at a disadvantage when It's time to have conversations about comparisons between the greats. I still have Curry higher than KD all-time and its been that way for the past 7 seasons for me. The same folks who called me crazy are slowly but surely coming to their senses. Can you imagine if you gave Curry or Lebron the superteams that KD has had in these past 3 years alone?
Straight facts
Yes I could certainly imagine what would happen if Lebron joined any of these teams.
This is going to sound maybe a bit unreasonable but at this point in time especially the last two years I'm not sure LeBron is an upgrade on kd.
I'm sorry but the 2010s didn't breed any real leaders and competitors. They're all mentally weak, or delusional, or both.
Yall talking like this is prime KD he had serious injuries in golden state
"Offense wins championships"
Woof that quote hurts more now than it did when KD made it
That's his belief unfortunately for him thats not historically true
His 2 rings will forever have an asterisk. Grear Scorer but he will never be in thr same line with Curry and Lebron
Only idiots say those championships are asterisks.
@@younglove3362 Nah, only idiots try to justify those championships
Asterisk he just snake who can’t win unless he has the greatest team ever
A hired gun
I mean. If we're putting asterisks for Stephs superteams. Then lebron gets them too.
KD lacks leadership man he will be forever known as a great secondary guy
KD has 3 options to preserve what little legacy he has left:
1) Stay. If he finishes his career in Phoenix, it will showcase a change in his attitude and perception of his impact.
2) Join a Seattle expansion team if they have one.
3) Go back to OKC. That’s assuming they’d even want him at any point in their next few years of developing an amazing, youthful core.
So considering how doubtful the other two options are. He needs to gtf off Twitter, not try and coach or influence the team, and just do the one thing we all agree we can count on, which is to just show up and play basketball. It’s the only thing about his last 7-8 years that is uncontroversial about him. You can count on him to show up and play the right way. What you can never count on him for is to be happy about it.
Curry and Thompson is just perfect for KD. I mean perfect fit. It cannot be replicated by Booker, Irving, Harden and Beal. So wherever KD goes, his not gonna win one.
Used to not believe in the narrative that KD sold his soul for those two championships but now I’m starting to believe it lmao he has had failure after failure ever since signing on with the strongest team in nba history. He asked for championships and now he’s paying the price
Wow how could u not see it right away. Look at his pose with the trophy he didn't look happy really. Like it was 2 easy & that's what we all knew.
Nobody will remember his rings, even now people only think of Steph, Thompson and Green.
@@doodlenoiI remember it
@davenoi even though he was finals mvp?
@@Ilovemylightskinqueens most people remember that for him leaving OKC and the weakest move in NBA history, personally I don't care that's just what I see from a lot if videos and content
Dude went from one of the loved player to most hated with 1 decision..only next to bron..he 2nd in that too😅
His decision was ALLLOOOOT worse than Bron’s though. Bron joined 2 All Stars on a 40 win team and the league was STILL extremely competitive in the early 2010’s. KD joined 3 All Stars, a 2 time MVP, arguably the GREATEST TEAM ever assembled, all in their prime that won a title 2 years prior. And the league wasn’t competitive. It was a forgon conclusion the Warriors were gonna win, the only question was who were they gonna play in the finals.
@@jaycasado5029to be fair the heat had a better chance of getting a 3peat than that warriors trek
@@condorgaming4000 Absolutely not because like i said the West was STACKED in the early 2010’s, and the Pacers, Knicks, and Bulls were all good teams in the East, so it coulda gone either way. When KD joined the Warriors it was a forgon conclusion. Shit wasn’t even exciting. EVERYONE knew they was gonna win
@@jaycasado5029yeah but Lebron became way more hated for the decision than KD ever was it was not even close. Hell even Osama Bin Laden interpreter said that what Lebron did was a complete disgrace so there you go.
@@jaycasado5029 No it wasn’t Lebrons time in the East was so weak after moving to the Heat/Cavs his other competitors were an aging Boston, a Bulls team that never recovered, and a Toronto team led by Lowry and Derozan lol
*_"I JUST WANNA HOOP"_* every time the going gets tough.
Basically described KD. A great "SCORER", a great "HOOPER" but not on MJ, Kobe, and other greats' mentality as an "NBA" Superstar. He just want the hooping part but NBA is not just hooping.
KD did not learn anything about championship basketball when he left GSW which I taught he would like James after playing for the Heat
It was too easy with the GSW. They kept their core, which was already a championship contender, and added KD on top. They were so crazy good that nobody else really had a chance (when they were healthy).
KD thought he could go elsewhere and win with similar ease. He is learning the hard way.
He does his part. He left the coach and help that he won with, it's on him
KD chasing the very first W on his own team and career but Big L still linger when he left GSW in 2019 offseason
He should have stayed for real.
@@younglove3362 His legacy was still tarnished, either way.
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Says who? Liberal minded common folk?
@@younglove3362 Wtf type of response is that? Lol
@stevonwhite8933 a none simple minded liberal individual one. Go do some research and get a better understanding. You peasants are common folk. I'm not not common.
the kd sold his soul narrative is aging well as time goes on tbh
There's also something else: the Heat had Pat Riley, who had enough clout to tell LeBron to shut the fuck up, I run the team.
Yeah ok n look at the heat now
KD would have never scored those 2 rings without Steph and the squad
This is why i view KD as a glorified Melo. As time goes on and other it becomes apparent that KD needed the Warriors way more than they ever needed him. People love pretending like the Warriors wouldn't have sniffed the finals again after blowing that 3-1 lead, as if they weren't one game and a healthy Center away from making history.
If you think warriors woulda won in 17 or 18 without kd ur meat rider aunt no watmy they winning against the cats u can look up every interview after the 2016 finals and see how csvs took they will to win. In by ur logic why curry ain't win in 2019 he and him Drayton and steph and iffy and lost in 6
@@lonetrapif Kevin durant never went to the warriors then the warriors wasn’t going to another nba finals regardless after 3-1 series blow
@@karnasinghjawanda9596you crazy as hell bro how TF you think they signed another superstar they had salary cap so trust me if not KD somebody else would’ve been there and they already didn’t need anyone else anyway they was just in the finals two years straight not to mention who was a threat to golden state in the west ?
@@karnasinghjawanda9596 they win beat Boston. What the heck.😂😂😂
KD didn't like kerr's coaching 😂
He thinks winning is just showing up on the court and getting whatever he wants. Teams have to tough it up and this is what we want to see from other teams like the nuggets, bucks and Celtics. Get to the finals a number of times and get respected
Kerr was all about ball movement & the triangle offense. The coach got Curry, Klay and Draymond to buy in to that philosophy. Durant never saw it, as he felt to be the main focal point. That is why Draymond and KD had that fight, as Durant believe he should have the ball in his hands and final shot. KD selfish ways will never allow him to win another championship.
That Beal trade is probably the dumbest trade in their history. Dude is injury prone, getting 50 mil and barely gives you 16 points her game when he does play. They should have just kept Chris Paul and traded Ayton for depth.
Should have kept shamet
CP was the key. Whether they traded for Beal or not, gettin rid of CP was always gonna make a huge difference. And they trade him to a team that didn’t need him. But phoenix had no PG. nobody to control the game. It’s more than bringing the ball up and some guys consistently overlook that
Facts! Chris Paul has had positive effect everywhere he has gone. OKC went from lottery to playoff team with CP3 and Suns went from lottery to Finals. Bradley Beal has played entire career in a less competitive East and never really had an impact on winning. Beal can score and facilitate a little bit but his game doesn't fit what Phoenix needed. They were better off even before trading for KD. They should've kept Bridges and Johnson and all that cap space
it wasnt dumb! they didnt mesh he was in and out all season back broken face etc. no excuse just facts it matters those types of injuries will def have your game off! i know! especially that back whatever is wrong with it just noway you can be yourself
Trading CP to try to convert Booker to a point guard and get Beal, who can't play off the ball. Yeah I don't know who thought that would work
He’s a great player with terrible luck. His rings are because the Splash Brothers helped him
Use to be a massive KD fan but when he left OKC it made me lose a lot of respect for him . Haven’t really followed basketball much the last few years but every time I see KD trending it’s never good . Shame how things have worked out for him recently . Also your videos are great , my go to page for hoops news
Honestly i feel no petty KD he had the perfect situation in Goldenstate. He never learned that having a balabced team is whats wins... the suns NEED a PG to get this team moving in the right direction
To be in goat conversation they should be a complete two way player
When will teams learn that “super teams” only work when the players complement each other. A team with a great PG like Halliburton adding KD and Booker with a motion based offense would work well. Having 3 ISO heavy players that aren’t great defenders simply doesn’t work
Adding Hali over Beal would make them better, but that team still losing before the CF with that pisspoor defense.
Remember when KD and Kyrie said we don’t need a coach 😂😂😂😂
People always say this about KD, but not one team outside of Golden State has been a complete team. Dude can play his ass off, but he needs defensive pieces too. In no way shape or form is he gonna lead a team, that’s just not who he is. The iso ball on both Brooklyn and Phoenix was their downfall. Dude gets hated on for absolutely no reason
The media still covers for him. Makes excuses. Charles Barkley called ot straight
I’ve seen enough, he’s basically Melo with a succesful bandwagon period.
He's the best worst player I've ever seen. One of the best skilled especially for size he can do everything except lead. Just selfish for a long time
Not worst player, but worst superstar leader. He has little to no leadership qualities outside of being able to lead by scoring. That only takes you but so far when you're on a team full of solidified bucket-getters. Hes not (NOR will he ever be) that guy who gathers the soldiers into a huddle and holds them accountable while vocalizing everything that needs to be done to win.
Once KD lost his hair. He lost his super powers😢😢😢😢
Theres this weird push from nba fans to put him with guys like lebron kobe and steph.
He was never on that level.
KD has been mimicing what Lebron did for a long time a decade at least, but KD did everything worse. Now, people finally done with Lebron's bullshit, there is no tolerance against KD too, he got what he deserves, he will be remembered but not really respected because other than those jumpers, what's there to respect? His loyalty to teammates and friends? there is none.
What lebron accomplished makes me respect him way more after this kd debacle. Kd is the greatest scorer ever. Arguabley the 2nd greatest player in this gen and he couldn’t recreate nothing close to what lebron did. Man everybody would universally put him top 10 but he keeps failing. Shows how hard it is to
@@Viewingviewer3 There is no KD without Bron, he oppened the door to this ring chasing bullshit. The most influential thing to happen to basketball wasn't Curry shooting threes the explosion of threes was happening before Curry and would have continued without him, it has been a 30 year steady trend. No, the most impactful moment for basketball was "the decision" when it became clear that star players were now entitled to collude with other superstars to make super teams and chase championships, complain when things don't go their way, blame the coach, jump ship to a new team etc.etc. This is now the league. Thanks to LeBron.
@@Viewingviewer3 KD is the greatest scorer, while having 6 less scoring titles than MJ?
@@gamble777888 So many superteams existed before the Heat. Heck the Celtics came together only 3 years prior. Just because they were built via trades doesn't mean they weren't superteams. You are just a hater.
@@jerry-r-4067 Of course it matters. The Big 3 of Miami was the first time three superstar top 10 NBA players including the reigning MVP, a player who finished top 5 in MVP voting the season prior, and Bosh who finished 7th in MVP voting two seasons prior, actively colluded, took pay cuts, circumventing cap restrictions to get together and ring chase. Literally ZERO examples in the history of the NBA of superstars in their Prime doing that.Also the Celtics big 3 was already ageing (Allen and Garnett both 31+ and in their 10th and 13th seasons respectively), and none of those guys "forced" trades to the Celtics, the way KD later forced himself into both BKN and PHX, and AD to the Lakers, Harden to BKN and Sixers etc. The "decision" was literally the moment all superstars in the NBA were given the green-light to collude and ring chase, and it became a common thing when in the past it never happened, and any superstar who pulled something like that would have been ridiculed and immediately taken out of any "greatest" conversation.
KD wants to be number 1 but does nothing towards being number 1. Starts with being a leader but he don't got it.
Talent can only take you far enough
Chemistry will take you definitely farther
But add that 2 together with hardwork will reach a limitless possibility
He thought he didn’t need coaching. Nuff said
I see the NBA as in "decline" due to "lack of quality" ---no defense/shooting "threes" at will. Ask the WNBA.
Great analysis for me. Thank you.
Spo didn’t learn spread offense from Chip Kelly. That’s a lie LeBalco told because he hates Pat Riley. Pat Riley refused to fire Spo when Bron wanted him to be the fall guy.
They didn’t know Bron couldn’t read a zone defense and couldn’t shoot when they got him in Miami. So the entire team changed around Bron cause Bron wouldn’t change.
Bosh became a jump shooter - Wade, the far better scorer, became the set up man. Bron tried to have Spo fired.
When the Heat couldn’t carry Bron he went back to Cleveland and made Kevin Love into exactly what Bosh was - making them both FAR worse. Then the Heat went out and got Ray Allen to come off the bench and Shane Battier and a bunch of other vets. Battier said he realized Bron couldn’t read a zone defense and Bron was too proud to admit it and Battier taught him.
Bron's career could have been the same as KD's if Riley didn't tell him to stfu. The Heat stuck together and improved as a team instead of blowing the team up, something that Bron always did when things didn't go his way.
Oh please. Lebron had already developed a shot by the time he got to the Heat and only got more efficient while he was there. He was one of the most efficient volume scorers in the league. And while I'm sure Lebron picked Battier's brain because he was one of the smartest players in the league, the idea that Lebron couldn't read a zone is ridiculous.
Further, Lebron carried the Heat that last year, not the other way around.
Lebron took 4 first time coaches to Titles😂
LeBron won two more rings without Erik, whos done nothing but lose in the Finals since, which is praised by Heat losers as Heat culture”😂.
Youd have one ring without Lebron, and that one was ref assisted😂
@@stanleykwan7759And yet Riley, who was hella salty when LeBron went back to Cleveland, hasnt won a ring without LeBron since😂
@@antcantcook960 Just noting that he only took two first-time coaches to rings. Spoelstra (twice, though he'd been the coach before Lebron's arrival)) and Lou. The other coach was Vogel, who'd already coached the Pacers and the Magic before the Lakers hired him.
Greatest Role player of all time
Bullshit. Role players don't accomplish what he has.
@@urbaindelva7869 what did he accomplish? I mean i respect his skills to score but thats it
You just reminded everyone that JJ Barea outplayed Lebron in the finals . What a shame .
This channel is always on point. Straight pros
KD really never gonna win a ring without Curry
3:54 shooked me, those "yes sir" coming out of nowhere where a child voice is louder than the video volume is spooky man!
Thank you for the video ! I learned a great lesson.
Never got past 2nd rd since leaving the Warriors. Big blow on his legacy.
8:06 WOOOOOOW, it's actually insane how he's ignoring him
KD was tired of being second. He never has to worry about that anymore because steph passed him for 2nd in this generation
Can’t really blame him for 2021, he absolutely balled out all by himself. Can’t do much more than 48 points and a game tying shot in game 7.
What people fail to realize KD is not a leader he’s the guy who wants to go join a team only if the team is cool or they already good he cannot go to a team and be the leader and change whatever is going on. Why can’t he say you know what I’m going to change what’s going on here we’re gonna be a winning team. Bring me this guy and this guy but No, he wants to go to a team that’s already establish because he doesn’t know how to be a leader he’s a follower. . You can be great or you want, but you’ll never be a great player. And that’s what separates a leader from a follower .
8:00 Why is this never talked about 😮
Durant slows the game down so much. GSW became boring to watch with KD because of the heavy ISO Ball .
Fans in every sport have always had a hard time classifying players who's mentality doesn't match their talent.
Fact is, and I said this after OKC lost to the Warriors in the 2016 WCF, KD is a number 2. He wants to be recognized as a #1 without the responsibility that comes with it. He wants to "just hoop" he doesn't want to LEAD.
Being honest, KD’s time is running out BUT he did ball out this season. His stats are great.
KD is a role player mindset with superstar skills
Yo when you said he went to chip Kelly I thought we was going in a different direction hahahaha
KD leaving OKC after blowing the lead against the Warriors and then JOINING them the following year killed my love for the game for a long time. It wasnt until 2023 that I finally came back to my OKC Thunder
Im glad someone talked about it
At the end of the day, post career, he’ll be set for life. A life of luxury and peace. 60% of Americans say they won’t be able to retire. KD will be fine.
I think the only way KD saves his career is to go back to the Thunder become the Vet that Chet learns from like SGA did with CP3. They win the championship with KD as a comeback hero but only if the thunder don’t win this year if they do he’s a cupcake again
I'm always amazed at the stupidly big contracts some of the older superstars get. At what point is winning a chip more important than just stacking more money on top of your already huge pile of money? Take less on your contract, get better players around you. Every time they move teams they gut the team to do it and wonder why they suck. Realise you're not as good as you used to be and time to get a ring is running out. Maximize your chances.
Love the videos bro, keep it up!
Crazy - I don’t know how many times I gotta say KD ain’t shit before people finally catch on. KD ain’t shit lol dude needs a PR manager to make decisions for him
I will always be a KD fan, but I LOVE how this has made the "Warriors needed KD more" camp look so stupid. Kd and GS needed each other, but KD needed the Warriors WAAAAY more than they needed him. Its been proven over the last 4 years. That said, I hope someday I can go to a GSW game where his jersey is retired in Chase center, I still love watching him play and always root for him to go off for 40 in any game thats not against GS
KD’s career is what LeBron haters think LeBron’s career is
No 🧢
@@Hereforthelols lol Yes. Keyword is haters.
No, KD's career is what James' career would have been if he never won a championship outside of Miami.
@@617Dabeynah he’s saying no cap, as in the above statement was true
Both drastically underperformed their talent level and circumstances in terms of championships produced, both soft as charmin, and with an allergy towards accountability.
You’re only as good as the bar you’re held to. Kd losses we shoulder shrug. Lebron loses we clown him every time even now when he’s 39
isn't KD hater on in this whole comment section?
His biggest mistake was thinking he was too good for the warriors and leaving an amazing team. Imagine how many chips they would’ve won if they stayed together. I mean he already made the choice to form a super team, why leave?? Why not stand on your decision and be a great team player regardless of what the haters were saying. Now we KNOW warriors didnt need him. Smh.
He can't be serious. There is no plane of existence in which Kevin Durant is even in the Top 10 of GOAT conversations.
He is just NOT that guy.
He never has been.
The suns letting CP3 walk and picking up Beal was a shock. Almost as much as the sweep T-wolves dropped on them 🧹
KD moved to the 72 win Warriors and ruined the league for 2 years. Now the karma train is catching up with him. He's built 2 superteams of his own since then and failed miserably.
You sound like a 12yr old. Stop ✋️
I hate that they're gonna blame Frank Vogel For all of this failure They hired a defensive head coach with a offensive team And no good defense of pieces around and they wonder why they lost And Kevin Durant not taking blame is just showing He's not gonna try to rely on the teammates not just Booker And Bradley bill that was a terrible pick up who the hell thought Bradley bill was a good superstar in the beginning to pick Somebody must have been smoking crack in the Phoenix front office
Well said
Howl my boi
Whats the 2nd to last song he plays in the background? It's been a constant song in his videos, but I've been unable to shazam it.
You can take Bradley Beal out of Washington but you cant take the Washington out of Bradley Beal
As a wizards fan this hurts.....but it's true
Hahahaahaha as a wizards fan this is hilarious
You mean you can take the loser out of Washington but you can't take the lower out of beal
Underrated comment 😂
Does anyone still remember that comedian that roasted KD😂
Talkin bout the GM
This title is wild
Rough one for the Suns, but KD is a beast. Injuries and team fit can make a big difference. Hoping he comes back strong next season.
Great player that will go down as one of the greats, but he was never the same after his Achilles injury.
2:41 "Respect?! ... to some people that's more important."
Keep your head up KD.❤
ya'll couldn't carry KD gym bag...it's crazy how people talk crazy about one of the most efficient scorers the game has ever seen...wasn't KD fault c19 hit and kyrie didn't want to take the shot, or that new york mayor wouldn't let him play, or that james harden had a bad hamstring...KD showed up did what he had to do..almost beat a fully load bucks team by himself.the suns trade for beal, not his fault beal couldn't stay healthy, not his fault beal didn't show up in the playoffs...KD showed up and did what he had to do...not to mention he's still playing at a high level after blowing out his achilles tendon...people really upset with KD because he join the warriors, the team that by the way also begged him to join them, and he stopped the socalled king run...smdh
Since you have the most generic name ever it leads me to believe you are KD hi 👋 I know you're track record lol and if you're not KD stop meat riding him he's a fucking multi millionaire who puts a piece of rubber through a nylon net... Nothing special is he a great player sure is he a god amongst men sadly no so please just live your life and let others people live theirs without telling people they need to treat someone like a god who's never done anything of importance it is his fault he left OKC and completely destroyed his reputation it is his fault he goes through coaches twice a week it is his fault he acted like a toddler and made fake accounts to defend himself you're probably one of them is he good sure does he deserve people like you defending him at every turn no
I can't believe I found one of KDs alt accounts lol
I used to love the OKC KD, I was so happy he got his championships and Final MVPs with the Warriors. Then everything went a downward sprial...
The 2024 Suns is the proof that just Offence doesn't win championships as KD believes. The Suns were destined to fail
Trading Chris Paul ruined the Suns, it’s not Kev’s fault. Then the Suns then doubled down and played an entire season with no PG. you could get away with that with Lbj because he’s basically a pg, but not with KD. The small sample size we got with CP3, Boom & KD was absolutely beautiful basketball.
I think he's okay. KD just needs the right combination of motivating coach and teammates. He had that with the Warriors.
Suns fan here, I was against Durant for how he treated Nash then they did Bridges dirty. We should have just got a point guard for Ayton, like Lillard not overpriced broke down KD. The easiest way to find him in the playoffs was to look for the guy moving the slowest, no joke. However I always give him respect for winning a gold medal for USA basically by himself.
Oh and I don't mean to be rude but there is enough evidence to conclude.... That KD has been hurt a lot in the last 4 years.
Never thought I’d feel bad for KD
Yup he should have just stayed with the Warriors. But when he left he taught Brooklyn with Kyrie, James Hardy, like supposed to be stack with Nash as coach and then came back sucking
every team kd is put on someone ends up playing bad then kd plays 48 mins shooting 100 shots a game and being expect to play like wemby, jason kidd, and kawhi, while also average 50, 50, 50
I feel like the average players are so damn good that having a super team doesn't mean that much. Having 1 superstar and a solid cast of role players is just better.
As a Suns fan, the Durant trade was a huge mistake. I said it from the beginning. This sweep just proved it
Cant we just talk about how lebron lost in the first round and still has the gall to call himself the Goat.
Lebron is pathetic
tbf, MJ, who’s everyone’s pick as the GOAT, lost in the first round multiple times. you can argue that MJ’s losses were because those were his first three seasons in the league, keep in mind that lebron is 40 and he shouldn’t even be competing as the number 1 or 2 option in a playoff team. not saying lebron is the goat (MJ is #1 all time for me), but you need to keep the same energy when using a specific criteria to downplay some players.
@@jhdivinaonce again. Lebrons age is his shield and sword.
Of course this counts against his legacy. He's getting paid 50m but laker fans are wrong to expect so much out of him????
GET HIM TF OFF OUT OF LA
@@manz7860 not trying to defend lebron here. i’m just attacking his hypocritical argument. I couldn’t care less where lebron ends up in the goat conversation. on my personal list, he’s barely top 5 (MJ, kareem, magic, bill, bron/wilt). it’s just an annoying argument to discredit lebron altogether and call him pathetic just because he lost in the first round, when players before him that are considered in the goat conversation have went out the same way.
@dr.wolfstar The fact that you and others came here to a KD video to specifically talk abt Bron lol we'll that says alot abt you now doesnt it?? Yea patheic is right , your hating obsession is pathetic
He saw Lebron and said “I can do that” 😂
Man Rusty IS loving this KD hate 😂❤
They have to get rid of Beal and get some reliable role players and a competent PG…Kevin also need a mentality check
They only way they get rid of him is if he agrees to it. He still has a no trade clause in his contract, he can literally say “F yall, pay me my money”. So he has final say on any trade that involves him. The trade was terrible to begin with smh.
Can't win without Curry