Hi Greg, i used a similar method with my sheep along a creek that had very dence brush next to lush forb pasture. I gave the 75 sheep a lane about 20 x 200 feet wide parraling the stream for about 12 hr before opening that lane to the rest of the paddock for the remainder of the day. It was very successful as the competed for the forage and did a great job of NOT selectively grazing but cleaning their plate so to speak. This was repeated as they moved along the creek and the impact was remarkable.
Nice to see a vid on Isaac's tight move experiment that you mentioned after you got back from CA, glad he is doing it again for us to see This looks great, very interesting!
My gosh those massive bawling animals held in check by that wire. Not their first choice that brushy grass. But in a tight situation 😂 stomach trumps choice😂. Good strategy Isaac!
Greg, I can’t thank you enough for the invaluable knowledge you are sharing with us. You inspired us to rotational graze our farm, we only have 40 head of red Angus, so far 😊
With all that work of moving them, I hope they put on even more weight for you if possible. As for sheep raising video's, I wouldn't mind a few more of those as well. Some day when the Lord see's fit to give me the property to do so I might try running a few sheep myself.
@tritchie Make it happen! Any place you look could use another species on it. Knock on doors… lots of folks would welcome that kind of offer, probably for free too.
This plant is considered invasive in many areas. It may be allelopathic, producing substances that chemically inhibit the growth of other plants. It forms extensive monocultures and develops an extensive seed bank in the soil, ensuring its long residence at a site.
Thanks for the video! The cattle are taking care of it. I finally know what you are talking about now. We have that plant too. We mostly get that plant where the ground was bare from the corn field that we are making into pasture. At least it’s feeding the ground with nitrogen though. I can’t wait to see the video when you move the cows back. Is that the area where you snow plowed the snow a few winters back? If so, I’m wondering if that had to do anything with it or maybe it could be hay you might have bought. It just looked like that area. If I have time, I’ll have to look unless you comment first.
@@user-fx7wg6iv3f Yes! This is what happens when I don’t have my reading glasses on. Although, I imagine the ants love living in Greg’s fields, too, along with the earthworms, dung beetles, etc.
Great work. Going after specific problem areas with grazing management. Would be interesting to see photos of these specific paddocks next year to see the amount of progress.
Howdy Greg. Good experiment. This winter. I am going to try bale grazing on a spot with it. I have spot sprayed sericea with a broadleaf herbicide tryclopyr 4 and had good luck. If you have the cows trample and eat the sericea in the pasture are you concerned about them spreading the seed via feces in another pasture where you don't have it? Or will you quarantine them so to speak before you move to a pasture that doesn't have sericea?
A weed wiper might help with targeting just the tall woody stuff left over after the move. I try to avoid using chemicals too but when I do that's what I use. Can get a trailer setup or a hand wand both stop overspray.
I've had good success brush hogging after I graze the lespediza, it's been reduced significantly in only two years of doing that. I did notice it looked like your fly load is higher than normal. We had hardly any flies during the drought but now that we got some rain they have come back like never before, but so have the birds so that's good, just hate these darn horn flies.
This is the follow-up published on October 21, 2023: ua-cam.com/video/dOOB5h9a618/v-deo.html The title is: Dynamite results 60 days later after putting pressure on sericea lespedeza with cattle. hope that helps folks link these two videos up. The results are spectacular!
@@SolarSolaceFarms nobody but a few goat lunatics sowing on purpose. Plenty of natural seed bank in the dirt on CRP land because it just pretty much goes to heck for 10 years with every new CRP signup and its free to just take over
@gregjudyregenerativerancher Greg, can you recommend a central Missouri cattle pasture seed mix or individual seed varieties for a good mixture of cool and warm seasons? Also, name of trusted seed supplier?Thank you!
Why do you dislike Sericea Lezpedeza ? According to Dr Anne Zajak (a top ruminant parasitologist at URI) it’s an excellent anti-parasitic especially against barber pole worm. There’s people in my area of South Carolina who produce and sell Sericea hay at a premium cost. Half of my farm was a timber clearcut so the soil is still very poor but the Sericea thrives where other grasses fail to thrive.
I will give you mine if you want it. Tends to take over fields and crowd out other forage species. No winter stockpile can be taken from it. Once the leaves fall off in the fall, your left with a field full of worthless stems and bare ground. Nothing to feed your livestock.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I was wondering the same thing! I also heard about the anti-parasite properties for sheep so I bought a pound of Sericea Lezpedeza seed (called "AU Grazer", bred specifically for this purpose) to introduce some into my pasture in small areas for our sheep and goats. I have a few plants growing in pots that I was going to plant out in a few places. I'm wondering now if that is a good idea....I will need to pay close attention to it so it does not take over!
We don’t have enough stock density to land ratio to do this much damage, but I do have a TON of serecea this year. I’ve been mowing after we move. What do you think, was this the best option . No spraying as we are organic.
I may not understand your circumstances, but farm area vs. stocking density in this case doesn’t matter at all. You can take any size farm and any size herd to get this result, just need to make the paddocks that much smaller. I’m trying it with 20 sheep, and I have to give them so small a paddock that they can barely walk around to get the weight/area ratio right.
One thing im experimenting with is remineralizing areas to discourage certain woody species, or invasives. Had an agronomist tell me that upping phosphorus levels will enhance grass growth that will discourage woody plants. He recommended the commercially (very high) chemicalized version of phosphorus, but im using soft rock posphate ( ie idagrow phos) paired with microbe application. With animals being your microbe factory, you may not need it additional microbes added. I dont have any livestock yet. My agronomist buddy knows ive had health problems using glyphosate in past. I avoid it like the plague now.
tell me that upping phosphorus levels will enhance grass growth that will discourage woody plants. He recommended the commercially (very high) chemicalized version of phosphorus, but im using soft rock posphate ( ie idagrow phos) paired with microbe application. With animals being your microbe factory, you may not need it additional microbes added. I dont have any livestock yet. My agronomist buddy knows ive had health problems using glyphosate in past. I avoid it like the plague now.
I only have about 10 cows and a handful of sheep. The most I have done is about 1/4 million pound stock density and I only left them in a couple hours that was a 35’x35’ paddock. Any smaller and I feel like they’ll be really mad at me. Can you effectively do this at a much smaller scale like mine? Or do you have to have more in order to achieve a real “mob” effect?
I see the cows eating the sericea, but are they getting much nutrition from it? I know that if all a cow can get is ground cardboard, they'll eat it, but they'll starve eating ground cardboard
We had a couple here that ran 600 laying hens. They moved on, they lost money every year they were here. Tremendous amount of work and investment for no return.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thanks so much for replying !!! I am very interested in starting my own place and what you’ll r doing and sharing really helps !!! I watched another video on a place you’ll leased that had sage brush all over it and you’ll said to roll out hay and lime the ph was low but anyway is there a particular kind of hay that u would want to roll out ????
Just watched the results of this! Awesome what it did after around a month of rest!! STOCKPILE!!
I’m flying out of your area this morning. Greensboro, been here 3 days on a farm consulting job. Pretty country around here.
Anyone who has sons like your guys are SO blessed.
You do realize you've won the lottery right? The gold medal. You've found THE treasure.
Hi Greg, i used a similar method with my sheep along a creek that had very dence brush next to lush forb pasture. I gave the 75 sheep a lane about 20 x 200 feet wide parraling the stream for about 12 hr before opening that lane to the rest of the paddock for the remainder of the day. It was very successful as the competed for the forage and did a great job of NOT selectively grazing but cleaning their plate so to speak. This was repeated as they moved along the creek and the impact was remarkable.
Nice to see a vid on Isaac's tight move experiment that you mentioned after you got back from CA, glad he is doing it again for us to see This looks great, very interesting!
Looks like the rain gave the fly population a boost. It always does, but after a dry spell it seems concentrated. Love the impact grazing.
Thanks for sharing Isaac and Greg! It’s great to see Man, animal, and Manimal [Isaac] doing the work together. #RotationalGrazing #800,000lbs 🇺🇸
That little bump with her horn at 2:52 was a work of art
That little calf said, I'll eat it I think it's kind of minty yummy..that's intense grazing buddy. Love it
Beautiful cows. Great to see the natural "weed" management. They sure do smack it down. 😊
My gosh those massive bawling animals held in check by that wire. Not their first choice that brushy grass. But in a tight situation 😂 stomach trumps choice😂. Good strategy Isaac!
Amazing this popped up a day after I watched the newest video of this exact pasture
Greg, I can’t thank you enough for the invaluable knowledge you are sharing with us. You inspired us to rotational graze our farm, we only have 40 head of red Angus, so far 😊
Fantastic!
Excellent use of the cattle. Far better than using herbicides.
I show this to so many people I WISH we had a link here to the results--it's out there, but now i"ll have to dig again to find it.
Issac demonstrating true grazing management techniques ! Awesome.
With all that work of moving them, I hope they put on even more weight for you if possible. As for sheep raising video's, I wouldn't mind a few more of those as well. Some day when the Lord see's fit to give me the property to do so I might try running a few sheep myself.
@tritchie
Make it happen! Any place you look could use another species on it. Knock on doors… lots of folks would welcome that kind of offer, probably for free too.
Can't wait for a follow up, great experiment
thank you for taking the time to share this stuff. Is there a book that you would recommend for referencing North American grass types?
This plant is considered invasive in many areas. It may be allelopathic, producing substances that chemically inhibit the growth of other plants. It forms extensive monocultures and develops an extensive seed bank in the soil, ensuring its long residence at a site.
Interesting. A lot of plants are like that.
How about some fly control??
I believe the tree swollow flock has migrated.
We did not have hardly any flies until we had 11 days in a row of rain. I will take the flies over the drought though.
Keep them doggies rollin… rawhide.
I love these experiements Isaac is doing. Very interesting to see how the cows respond and the impact it has on the forage.
Thanks for the video! The cattle are taking care of it. I finally know what you are talking about now. We have that plant too. We mostly get that plant where the ground was bare from the corn field that we are making into pasture. At least it’s feeding the ground with nitrogen though. I can’t wait to see the video when you move the cows back. Is that the area where you snow plowed the snow a few winters back? If so, I’m wondering if that had to do anything with it or maybe it could be hay you might have bought. It just looked like that area. If I have time, I’ll have to look unless you comment first.
No this is not the area that we snow plowed and unrolled hay. This area has been like this for around 15 years.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher oh I hope this really takes care of it then.
I know you don’t edit much but if we could get a flashback to this video to see the results that would be amazing.
I would move the cattle at opposite ends of the paddock each time to force them to circle the paddock.
Sericea is high in condensed tannins. Condensed tannins are bad news for the barber Pole worm!
This is ant art, knowing when and where to move the cattle.
Ants are industrious for sure 🤔🐜🤣
or was that a typo? ; )
@@user-fx7wg6iv3f Yes! This is what happens when I don’t have my reading glasses on. Although, I imagine the ants love living in Greg’s fields, too, along with the earthworms, dung beetles, etc.
Great work. Going after specific problem areas with grazing management. Would be interesting to see photos of these specific paddocks next year to see the amount of progress.
it would be interesting to see what effect unrolling bales on these graized strips has.
Thank you for not using glyphosate!
Your welcome!!
Instead of herbicide - I would call that Hooficide.
Death by a thousand hooves.
Alright Willie!
😁
Ha, clever
but healthier.
Howdy Greg. Good experiment. This winter. I am going to try bale grazing on a spot with it. I have spot sprayed sericea with a broadleaf herbicide tryclopyr 4 and had good luck.
If you have the cows trample and eat the sericea in the pasture are you concerned about them spreading the seed via feces in another pasture where you don't have it? Or will you quarantine them so to speak before you move to a pasture that doesn't have sericea?
How 'bout spray with strong vinegar?
I think one benefit to do it this way is to not have man-made chemicals on your property.
Looks like a buffalo herd! Just as you planned:-)
A weed wiper might help with targeting just the tall woody stuff left over after the move. I try to avoid using chemicals too but when I do that's what I use. Can get a trailer setup or a hand wand both stop overspray.
Perhaps If you had a hand scythe you could "hand brush hog" off a bit more of the residual while out there waiting to move them.
Will they spread the seeds on the rest of the farm through the manure?
Good question. Horses spread garlic mustard seed weve seen that, but the cows are ruminants. Maybe that processes the seed beyond viability. 🤔
Ruminants are seed spreaders
Love it!!!! Greg what is the spiky plastic green nose ring on 1 of the cows for?
Stop nursing other cows.
Will your sheep benefit from Sericea ?
I've had good success brush hogging after I graze the lespediza, it's been reduced significantly in only two years of doing that. I did notice it looked like your fly load is higher than normal. We had hardly any flies during the drought but now that we got some rain they have come back like never before, but so have the birds so that's good, just hate these darn horn flies.
How do sheep do on it?
How about an update of this experiment??
This Lespedesa is fern-like. And those portrayed yesterday was a broad leaf. Do you have the species name of the broad leaded ones?
This is the follow-up published on October 21, 2023: ua-cam.com/video/dOOB5h9a618/v-deo.html
The title is:
Dynamite results 60 days later after putting pressure on sericea lespedeza with cattle.
hope that helps folks link these two videos up. The results are spectacular!
OH thanks me. 🤣🤣🤣
dipsticks in nrcs promoted it too
Wouldn’t be available to plant if someone wasn’t making a profit off it, too bad.
@@SolarSolaceFarms nobody but a few goat lunatics sowing on purpose. Plenty of natural seed bank in the dirt on CRP land because it just pretty much goes to heck for 10 years with every new CRP signup and its free to just take over
Beautiful cattle
Greg when you put the cows in a small spot like that is that fence hot
Yes the fence needs to be hot or they will push through it.
Will they eat it after the frost kills it?
Will the seed pass through the cow and spread it?
The seed is still immature
@gregjudyregenerativerancher Greg, can you recommend a central Missouri cattle pasture seed mix or individual seed varieties for a good mixture of cool and warm seasons? Also, name of trusted seed supplier?Thank you!
I know the cattle are well trained but is the fence, in front and behind the mob, hot?
Yes, both fences are hot.
I am surprised the cattle have not figured out yet that when the fence is being rolled up the wire is not hot. Hope they never do.
Seems like the sheep would love that.
Reminds me of the cockleburr field
Why do you dislike Sericea Lezpedeza ? According to Dr Anne Zajak (a top ruminant parasitologist at URI) it’s an excellent anti-parasitic especially against barber pole worm. There’s people in my area of South Carolina who produce and sell Sericea hay at a premium cost.
Half of my farm was a timber clearcut so the soil is still very poor but the Sericea thrives where other grasses fail to thrive.
I will give you mine if you want it. Tends to take over fields and crowd out other forage species. No winter stockpile can be taken from it. Once the leaves fall off in the fall, your left with a field full of worthless stems and bare ground. Nothing to feed your livestock.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I was wondering the same thing! I also heard about the anti-parasite properties for sheep so I bought a pound of Sericea Lezpedeza seed (called "AU Grazer", bred specifically for this purpose) to introduce some into my pasture in small areas for our sheep and goats. I have a few plants growing in pots that I was going to plant out in a few places. I'm wondering now if that is a good idea....I will need to pay close attention to it so it does not take over!
Awesome work!!! Controlling invasive plants without any chemicals, well done! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
We don’t have enough stock density to land ratio to do this much damage, but I do have a TON of serecea this year. I’ve been mowing after we move. What do you think, was this the best option . No spraying as we are organic.
I may not understand your circumstances, but farm area vs. stocking density in this case doesn’t matter at all. You can take any size farm and any size herd to get this result, just need to make the paddocks that much smaller. I’m trying it with 20 sheep, and I have to give them so small a paddock that they can barely walk around to get the weight/area ratio right.
I don’t have the manpower to move them that frequently throughout the day. Our situation is just for our family, not a business.
Yes, mowing it after they graze it definitely keeps it more vegetative for the animals when they come back on their next rotation.
One thing im experimenting with is remineralizing areas to discourage certain woody species, or invasives. Had an agronomist tell me that upping phosphorus levels will enhance grass growth that will discourage woody plants. He recommended the commercially (very high) chemicalized version of phosphorus, but im using soft rock posphate ( ie idagrow phos) paired with microbe application. With animals being your microbe factory, you may not need it additional microbes added. I dont have any livestock yet. My agronomist buddy knows ive had health problems using glyphosate in past. I avoid it like the plague now.
tell me that upping phosphorus levels will enhance grass growth that will discourage woody plants. He recommended the commercially (very high) chemicalized version of phosphorus, but im using soft rock posphate ( ie idagrow phos) paired with microbe application. With animals being your microbe factory, you may not need it additional microbes added. I dont have any livestock yet. My agronomist buddy knows ive had health problems using glyphosate in past. I avoid it like the plague now.
I only have about 10 cows and a handful of sheep. The most I have done is about 1/4 million pound stock density and I only left them in a couple hours that was a 35’x35’ paddock. Any smaller and I feel like they’ll be really mad at me. Can you effectively do this at a much smaller scale like mine? Or do you have to have more in order to achieve a real “mob” effect?
Please expand a bit more why you did this like you did. Those of us that have been a bit behind
Be fun to see how it looks next Spring
I see the cows eating the sericea, but are they getting much nutrition from it? I know that if all a cow can get is ground cardboard, they'll eat it, but they'll starve eating ground cardboard
You cant do something like this all the time, but as a tool on occasion for sure.
Is that what it's called Total graizing?
Total grazing normally takes everything to the dirt.
No. Total grazing is crazy, even crazier than zero grazing. This is called animal impact
Great video. What breed of cows are they?
The South Poll breed
I speak cow. At 5:13, the ladies are complaining about this salad topping selection. 😂
Just started watching Greg do you’ll run chickens behind the cow ??? If not is their a reason why??? Thanks
We had a couple here that ran 600 laying hens. They moved on, they lost money every year they were here. Tremendous amount of work and investment for no return.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thanks so much for replying !!! I am very interested in starting my own place and what you’ll r doing and sharing really helps !!! I watched another video on a place you’ll leased that had sage brush all over it and you’ll said to roll out hay and lime the ph was low but anyway is there a particular kind of hay that u would want to roll out ????
@mikewatson2289 any grass hay would work
...clinical work....
We baled that grass as a kid. We had about 20 acres of it. I'm in alabama
Compare this to all the machinery videos... Old school, low tech, high results.
They say goats love that stuff
Another option is bale it and you have feed for the winter.
I bet the cow have a lot of questions
he's not isaac..isaac dont have a beard