Twelve O'Clock High : S1E07 Decision

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  • Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).

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  • @partymanau
    @partymanau 10 місяців тому +10

    Watched this show as a kid and fell in love with airplanes. Now I am an old bastard, I still love planes and this show.

  • @-khosroemamiahari2883
    @-khosroemamiahari2883 Рік тому +23

    Robert Lansing was the best General Frank Savage and John Larkin is the best 2 star General Crowe and Frank Overton the best desk major, they are so perfect in everything we watch as a film , I just love all the episodes ❤ I don’t get enough of it ! Thank s Robert Lansing

  • @billythekid3234
    @billythekid3234 Рік тому +10

    How sad I was when they cut Robert Lansing. His voice, the way he carried himself, so much like the real thing! Paul Burke did a good job but nowhere ner Lansing. well we got a full season of him,,,,,, RIp RObert Lansing! I just loved this show now and in the 60's I was 12 when it came out,,,,,, Take care !

  • @richardgrimes4440
    @richardgrimes4440 Місяць тому +2

    Truly, one of the best series ever to air on TV. I remember it well. Keep them coming.👍👎

  • @carolecarr5210
    @carolecarr5210 Рік тому +11

    This tore at this ex VietNam eras Air Force Nurse big time & washed my eyes out twice. "The Point" had produced incredible Officers since it's inception. Best episode of this series to me.

  • @axiomist1076
    @axiomist1076 4 роки тому +23

    Such solid writing . They couldnt write like this today .

    • @lewiseberhart2871
      @lewiseberhart2871 2 роки тому +2

      Your right not with the Woke generation we have now. Someone out their would be triggered.

    • @kathyyoung1774
      @kathyyoung1774 Рік тому +1

      @@lewiseberhart2871 Yeah, they’d have to have every crew contain a woman, a gay, a transgender, a dwarf, an American Indian, an African American, a handicapped person, an Asian, and an illegal immigrant -- totally ignoring history.

    • @jsfbr
      @jsfbr Рік тому

      ​@@kathyyoung1774...and the general would have double standards, be a backstabber, and full.of insecurities...

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kathyyoung1774 Not in WWII, the 1940's, or when this is made in 1964

  • @Doug326
    @Doug326 2 роки тому +48

    Having served in the military (Navy), can tell you that flag rank officers are hard and tough as nails. They don't smile easily, they don't tolerate fools gladly, they demand peak performance at all times, and they will kick hind end hard when necessary. Lansing played a General very very well. Very authentic and believable. Flying over enemy territory and dropping bombs, losing crew, required a mental toughness and seriousness of purpose. No one has played a flag rank officer on TV or movies better than did Lansing play General Savage.

    • @jimblue39
      @jimblue39 2 роки тому +7

      Amen Lansing was fantastic in this role.

    • @douglasfletcher1861
      @douglasfletcher1861 Рік тому

      Mnnnbgggghhhgffddsssszxxxxxcccc

    • @billythekid3234
      @billythekid3234 Рік тому +5

      So very true sir, btw TY for your service!

    • @donofon1014
      @donofon1014 Рік тому +4

      about the acting... agreed. But in reality the 8th Air force was made of teenagers led by 22 year veterans. Neither this version or the Paul Burke seasons address this. The movie Memphis Belle did. A 1964 show is only 20 years after these losses and showing how damn young they are is too horrible to display. How old was George H W Bush when a sub plucked him from impending Japanese capture. Care to guess?

    • @donofon1014
      @donofon1014 Рік тому +2

      recently turned 20

  • @wayfarerwayfarer7749
    @wayfarerwayfarer7749 2 роки тому +23

    .I have read from one director on the show who said he was one of his favourite actors to work with and he was angry for years that Lansing was fired.Another actor who worked on the show said good things about him ,had worked with him before and done promo tours with him and that he never thought of him as being difficult ,he was just totally committed to the role ,another actor said he lived and breathed the role and shouldn’t have been fired.Lansing actually said nice things about the actor Paul Burke who effectively replaced him.He has also been described as an intense actor by the director of another TV role he did and quiet ,but excellent by an actress.Another said how it irritated Lansing that people didn’t come in prepared and used rehearsal time to learn their lines,instead of working on the scene.The producer also didn’t like that he wouldn’t do what he was told in scenes if he didn’t think it was right for the character,such as they wanted him to smile more 🤣 .He was so committed to doing a great job as he knew they were representing a generation of men,many who never went home.To make his acting as authentic as he could,He learnt to fly himself and became a pilot,had plans of the B17 flight deck and asked a psychologist to talk through the motivations for the character.So I think while he did annoy Quinn Martin and some producers,it seemed to be in his pursuit for excellence.

    • @lynnesaginaw8061
      @lynnesaginaw8061 Рік тому +5

      True dedication to one's craft is the mark of a great actor.

    • @carolecarr5210
      @carolecarr5210 Рік тому +3

      Excellent note. I had no idea Lansing was fired. His rep U just outlined sounds like I would expect of an Officer.

  • @meherbs36
    @meherbs36 2 роки тому +9

    1. Loved all that gorgeous P-38 footage! My grandfather flew them, and even after a 20+ year career in the Air Force, they were always his favorites.
    2. THAT EPILOGUE BROKE MY HEART. 😭

  • @jameshughes455
    @jameshughes455 4 роки тому +13

    FANTASTIC episode!! One of my favorites!!

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      Tim O'Connor was Dr. Huer on Buck Rogers.

  • @edstyer2566
    @edstyer2566 4 роки тому +12

    Thank you for U Tube and Jake! I never thought I’d ever see this again! Thank you for the beautiful memories ❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸

  • @altoncrane9714
    @altoncrane9714 5 років тому +74

    Impossible to imagine an actor doing such a superb job episode after episode as Robert Lansing, damn shame that they did not continue to have him play Frank Savage. RIP Sir !!

    • @robinf3817
      @robinf3817 4 роки тому +11

      100% true.
      Perhaps the worst insult to acting talent in the history of TV.

    • @gerrygrzywinskl6135
      @gerrygrzywinskl6135 3 роки тому +6

      Love this show keep it on you tube

    • @conniemcclintock9332
      @conniemcclintock9332 2 роки тому +6

      My.brother watched this when we were kids. I love it now and General Savage has always been my favorite. Sad when they wrote him out.

    • @STho205
      @STho205 2 роки тому +3

      Lansing almost always played the same character. It was his perfected stock performance. The irritated, judgmental professional that bulldozed anything and anyone in his way. This was his perfect role.
      However according to directors and other actors....that was his personality. Few enjoyed working with him. He was playing the Gregory Peck character on the small screen and few other actors at that time would be up to that.
      In the movie Frank Savage cracked up and had a nervous breakdown at the end because of the intensity of the character. The flight surgeon said, like a light that burns brightest just before it goes out gives maximum effort.

    • @wayfarerwayfarer7749
      @wayfarerwayfarer7749 2 роки тому +7

      @@STho205 That is interesting.I have also read from one director on the show who said he was one of his favourite actors to work with and he was angry for years that Lansing was fired.Another actor who worked on the show said good things about him ,had worked with him before and done promo tours with him and that he never thought of him as being difficult ,he was just totally committed to the role ,another actor said he lived and breathed the role and shouldn’t have been fired.Lansing actually said nice things about the actor Paul Burke who effectively replaced him.He has also been described as an intense actor by the director of another TV role he did and quiet ,but excellent by an actress.Another said how it irritated Lansing that people didn’t come in prepared and used rehearsal time to learn their lines,instead of working on the scene.The producer also didn’t like that he wouldn’t do what he was told in scenes if he didn’t think it was right for the character,such as they wanted him to smile more 🤣 .He was so committed to doing a great job as he knew they were representing a generation of men,many who never went home.To make his acting as authentic as he could,He learnt to fly himself and became a pilot,had plans of the B17 flight deck and asked a psychologist to talk through the motivations for the character.So I think while he did annoy Quinn Martin and some producers,it seemed to be in his pursuit for excellence.

  • @paulgerald5808
    @paulgerald5808 5 років тому +12

    In my childhood , I grew up with Twelve O'clock High . The movie and the series . My aircraft is the , Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress . Thank you .

  • @wrotenwasp
    @wrotenwasp 6 років тому +31

    Tim Oconnon almost looks a lot like James Mason. As a kid I never really appreciated how well these old shows were put together. The acting was excellent.

    • @Shortsircut1
      @Shortsircut1 4 роки тому +3

      Dr. Huer from Buck Rogers!

    • @MrPloopy
      @MrPloopy 4 роки тому +3

      He also resembles the late Senator John McCain....

    • @lsmart
      @lsmart 4 роки тому +2

      @@MrPloopy His face is not at all like McCain; it's his stance, physique and speaking style. Of course, his character Temple also resembles McCain in his heroism as a POW.

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 4 роки тому +13

    My Dad built runways and worked on P38 Lightnings in WWII in the Pacific theatre ........he was with the Army Air Corps engineers. He really was impressed by the plane. The Japanese feared this aircraft.

    • @donlove3741
      @donlove3741 2 роки тому

      Army air corp.engineers?
      No .

  • @MrUniqueness7
    @MrUniqueness7 4 роки тому +15

    Twelve Clock High like the as a kid growing. What real combat scenery. Love the shows. US military still strong with power.

    • @ohwhatelse
      @ohwhatelse 4 роки тому

      What is "strong with power"?

    • @johntydee6367
      @johntydee6367 6 місяців тому

      The US is a failing lawless shithole and its military is full of trans morons.

  • @1stinsonguy
    @1stinsonguy 4 роки тому +7

    The P-38 at 23:00 is a beauty. A rare sight.

  • @DetTigerFan
    @DetTigerFan 5 років тому +30

    This was a great TV series. In this episode, hats off to those reconnaissance pilots, in this case the P-38. It took a lot of guts to fly into enemy territory, without guns, just a camera, for pre-strike & post-strike photos of targets.

    • @johnt.4947
      @johnt.4947 4 роки тому +3

      Yes, this is a great TV series, even after Robert Lansing left. I watched this series when I was around 10 years old. I never get tired of watching WW2 aircraft footage, especially the B-17. This episode is good by itself, but with the footage of the P-38, it makes it awesome! Two of (some of) the best looking/hottest WW2 aircraft, IMHO.

    • @carolecarr5210
      @carolecarr5210 Рік тому +1

      P 38 Lightening shot down Yamamoto in the Pacific.

  • @Russia-bullies
    @Russia-bullies Рік тому +2

    This brings back good memories.Tim O’Connor would later act in Buck Rogers In The 25th Century.

  • @doctorartphd6463
    @doctorartphd6463 5 років тому +18

    This show, and Combat with Vic Morrow were my favorites... Oh yes, let's not forget Black Sheep Squadron !!

    • @droldsw31
      @droldsw31 5 років тому +7

      Yes they were Doc! Just don't watch these shows if you're trying to quit smoking.

    • @JFF35753
      @JFF35753 Рік тому +2

      My favorites as well!

  • @scottuehlinger7887
    @scottuehlinger7887 4 роки тому +8

    Van Dreelan, the actor portraying the German Army Colonel, was Dutch and often portrayed Nazis on TV and Film (Von Ryans Express, even a TZ). Ironically he worked for the Dutch resistance Against the Nazis...apparently on one occasion impersonating one!

  • @caseyjones745
    @caseyjones745 Рік тому +2

    Great stories!

  • @rowdycallahan9935
    @rowdycallahan9935 4 роки тому +17

    Robert Lansing was superb as Savage! Should never have been replaced! Paul Burke would have been better serving under him!

    • @robinf3817
      @robinf3817 4 роки тому +4

      With his voice and fierce character, he was born to play a military man. It's amazing his agent could not find him another role in the same vein.

    • @el_aleman
      @el_aleman 2 роки тому +1

      He definitely nailed the persona of a true military commander …and he had the “stare that kills” look

    • @AdmiralNelson1000
      @AdmiralNelson1000 4 місяці тому

      Yes, a Lansing-Burke format would have been just fine! On the surface the problem with season 1 was audience ratings-- the series faced tough sledding late nite Friday's against Gomer Pyle and former Tonight Show host Jack Paar. I'm wondering if the other issues brought forth would have affected the series with the thorough changes that came about. Wish I was a fly on the wall at Fox, ABC and the QM office, wondering if Robert Lansing did or did not wish to continue on the show with changes.

  • @Buzzbox3rd
    @Buzzbox3rd 6 років тому +34

    Awesome show this really was very well made.

  • @allenhuddleston4616
    @allenhuddleston4616 5 років тому +17

    Photo Recon variant of the Lightning was called the ( F-5 ) . Nice flying sequence used for the show .

  • @timothycadoo6765
    @timothycadoo6765 4 роки тому +31

    Bob Lansing was always a competent actor, but everyone in the cast really stretches their ability on this one! Good work! Really miss Robert Lansing and Tim O'Connor!

    • @skye1212
      @skye1212 4 роки тому +5

      Frank Overton was superb also!

  • @robertpayne2717
    @robertpayne2717 5 років тому +24

    Those men that were in their twenties in 1942,43,and 44 that are still alive would be in there mid nineties now. Maybe there grandchildren should try and get their personal accounts of their experiences before its lost completely

  • @RobFox-d4j
    @RobFox-d4j 7 місяців тому +2

    Mr. CVanDyke, excellent analysis IMHO. Ck out 1949's Command Decision, starring Clarke Gable. Also, the Gallant Hours,1960, starring James Gagney. Two excellent movies Abt command.

  • @tommccall3972
    @tommccall3972 5 років тому +13

    If you can find the article in Air & Space Smithsonian magazine you find what the author says was the best movie about the Army Air Corps and the eighth Air Force in WWII-12 O'clock High. All the characters were based men that served with 8th in London.

    • @b3j8
      @b3j8 5 років тому +1

      I'd heartily agree!

  • @BETTERWORLDSGT
    @BETTERWORLDSGT 6 років тому +12

    The Episodes keep getting better! Newly was in this!

  • @mariakelly4179
    @mariakelly4179 6 років тому +16

    My favorite scene is when Savage is telling Harvey about how he and Temple met. One of Lansing's best scenes in the series.

    • @mariakelly5
      @mariakelly5 5 років тому +5

      @Matrox One Robert Lansing was great in every scene of every episode.

    • @rodfirefighter8341
      @rodfirefighter8341 5 років тому +3

      Note the time frame!!!?! The P-38 was most likely what they would have had available!!

    • @rodfirefighter8341
      @rodfirefighter8341 5 років тому +1

      Well HELL, that was supposed to be comments on the recon. aircraft! Sorry!!

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@rodfirefighter8341 True!

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 4 роки тому +6

    The letter of condolence written by Gen. Savage is dated in June of 1942, about one month before the 8th Air Force began aerial bombardment operations against the Germans.

  • @billhuber2964
    @billhuber2964 5 років тому +6

    My uncle flew in b-24s&25s. He liked this show for its realism.

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 5 років тому +9

    Frank
    ..2nd fiddle...his expression after the darts hit the floor and Savage drops one in the middle is priceless..."love my husband ...but he is a lunatic!"

    • @meherbs36
      @meherbs36 2 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂 Lol, that's exactly what it looks like!

  • @deanguando1335
    @deanguando1335 4 роки тому +9

    John Larkins is one of my favorites.

    • @kathrynrobertson7923
      @kathrynrobertson7923 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, a lot of the meaningful human interaction went missing after he died in real life in Jan. (1965?). Mutiny at 10,000 feet, the first episode filmed after his death, is flat-just not the same. They were a great duo!

  • @skuderman1
    @skuderman1 4 роки тому +6

    Even at 1960's prices, I would have liked to had the cigarette concession for this show, everybody smoked almost through the whole episodes.

    • @kathrynrobertson7923
      @kathrynrobertson7923 4 роки тому +1

      The U.S. government included cigarettes in their rations. Nobody knew any better during WWII. As for Lansing, he quit after this show-although apparently too late. He used to do card tricks to keep his hands busy dealing with withdrawal.

  • @lizchelgren1270
    @lizchelgren1270 4 роки тому +6

    i love this show, so glad they are on youtube. did anyone notice at 40:35 the outboard engines were used to taxi and then when the crew was leaving the cockpit area 41:22, the in=board engines were spinning down.

  • @kathrynrobertson7923
    @kathrynrobertson7923 4 роки тому +5

    The U.S. government included cigarettes in their military rations. Nobody knew any better during WWII. As for Lansing, he quit after this series-although apparently too late. He used to do card tricks to keep his hands busy dealing with withdrawal. He plays a character his own age-36, in the series. Makes it much more credible.

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 5 років тому +14

    Robert Lansing chain smoking throughout...looked it up, sure enough dead at 66 from lung cancer :(

  • @theresadelicot5104
    @theresadelicot5104 5 років тому +19

    Emotional all around with everyone involved.

  • @lennyhendricks4628
    @lennyhendricks4628 Рік тому +3

    This episode has a brief shot of a B-17G (at 5:34), the final development of the B-17 with the chin turret right under the nose. If you watch enough of these, especially season 1 with Robert Lansing the time frame seems to be much earlier in the war. This is the only shot I remember seeing of a B-17G,

    • @jagcop8357
      @jagcop8357 Рік тому +1

      At the end of this episode, you can see the date 15th June 1942 on the letter which was Gen. Savage try to write to Temples widow. So the series plays very early in the war. BTW its a great serie with great actors...

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 Рік тому +1

      @@jagcop8357 - The B-17G was the final model with the "chin" turret". Nearty all the B-17's in the show are earlier than the B-17G. Look for the chin turret, you'll find it only very rarely on the show. I did look for dates for the various models but could not find it.

    • @jagcop8357
      @jagcop8357 Рік тому +2

      @@lennyhendricks4628You are correct. If i saw this B16G in this clip, i thought that the 918th BG got new planes and the episodes plays at the end of 1943, but i was wrong.I think, the 8th AF got her first B17G's in October/ November 43 but i haven't real accurate infosabout that too.only by wikipedia i read a short notice, that the first flight of a B17G was in August 43. But that's all history and long time ago...

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jagcop8357 thank you for the info!

  • @edl617
    @edl617 4 роки тому +13

    51 minutes of storyline, not the 40 minutes we get now a days

  • @charliegood1967
    @charliegood1967 5 років тому +15

    They should never have written Robert Lansing out. Every episode of the first season was extremely well made and really reached into the hearts of the real men of the 8th Air Force who suffered the highest casualty rate per 100 men of the entire American military in WW 11. After the first season the show seemed to loose itself in Hollywood hype.

    • @gregford2103
      @gregford2103 5 років тому +4

      Charlie Good I think the producers wanted more of an action and adventure storyline, similar to Combat. Unfortunately, that took away from the series strongpoint, which focused on the mental toll that the war took on soldiers and airmen.

    • @ohwhatelse
      @ohwhatelse 4 роки тому +1

      Lansing may have wanted out...

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому +1

      @@ohwhatelse Lansing was fired for a fresh face. However, the move turned out to be good for him, as many opps had opened up due to his year on the show.

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому

      @@ohwhatelse .

    • @jstetzer01
      @jstetzer01 4 роки тому

      Check out U.S. Submarines. Lost 52 boats. I believe they suffered the highest losses compared to the rest of our forces and their total size.

  • @scvandy3129
    @scvandy3129 6 років тому +16

    Another great, unique location used to perfection -- the German depot / compound / distribution center. The Quinn Martin Productions location scouts come through again.
    Nice to learn of Savage's background, what with his friendship and boxing match with Tim O'Connor's character. Well played by both. How nice to see a very young Buck Taylor, as the American corporal who dies in the escape attempt's gun fight, three years pre "Gunsmoke" as Newly O'Brien (1967).
    A trivial point, but too often we see movie and TV bartenders get "stiffed" for non-payment of drinks. Savage, suddenly realizing his precision bombing brainstorm when he spots the darts, and the chaplain dashed out of the officers' club shortly after ordering a second round. Interesting to see in the b.g. $.40 displayed on the cash register.
    Finally, the epilog with the chaplain advising Savage -- who can't put into words what he needs to say in his letter to O'Connor's widow -- was very effective. For me that scored more dramatic points than the dialogue about putting in for such-and-such commendation for bravery.
    A real crime we're never going to see 20th Century Fox TV release the definitive, authorized version of "12 O'Clock High" -- utilizing their vault's video and sound elements -- on BluRay and DVD.

    • @dindinprivate3477
      @dindinprivate3477 5 років тому +7

      Just FYi - Major Harvey Stovall is not a chaplain but the ground exec.

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому +6

      Yes, the German depot, until when those guys are escaping out the front gate and suddenly you see the California desert across the street!

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mickey1849 couldn't be, I didn't see it!

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      Why not?

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 7 місяців тому

      @@MaveRick-on2cm A lot of the airport scenes were shot at some locally used airport outside of San Bernardino somewhere. I suspect it didn't take much to set up their "German depot" somewhere around there.

  • @deanouellette1868
    @deanouellette1868 2 роки тому +2

    QM misspelled John van Dreelen's name in the opening credits...

  • @waynebender7720
    @waynebender7720 5 років тому +7

    Another great show. Remember what it took to win WWII.

    • @paulgerald5808
      @paulgerald5808 5 років тому +1

      Watch the movie that was made in 1949 , Twelve O'Clock High . Daryle F Zanuck ,20th Century Fox .

    • @blusnuby2
      @blusnuby2 5 років тому

      Read: The Wild Blue, by Stephen Ambrose.

    • @waynebender7720
      @waynebender7720 5 років тому

      @@paulgerald5808 The man wrote the book 12 O'CLOCK HIGH. Also wrote the book on bio of Jimmy Stewart. He was his Commander during WWII. Flying missions over Europe.

    • @waynebender7720
      @waynebender7720 5 років тому

      @@blusnuby2 Read the book written by the same man. Who wrote 12 O'CLOCK HIGH. The bio on Jimmy Stewart. He was his Commander during WWII and they fly missions over Europe.

    • @blusnuby2
      @blusnuby2 4 роки тому +1

      @@waynebender7720 Yes, James Stewart was not just a "celluloid hero." He was THE REAL DEAL !

  • @johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899
    @johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899 4 роки тому +4

    Milk runs nice when your short.... In NAM it was called 'SHORT TIMER', My last day was not a Milk Run by no stretch but was called out of the field prior to leaving. My NAM TOUR was over

  • @Thomas-em9du
    @Thomas-em9du Рік тому +2

    Some of my best, longest friendships started out with a fist fight 😊😮

  • @frederickwise5238
    @frederickwise5238 5 років тому +10

    Recognized Cpl Buck Taylor later to ride in Gunsmoke.

  • @johnmoore8016
    @johnmoore8016 5 років тому +8

    That would have made a good target for the Havilland DH.98 Mosquito bomber.

  • @paulbeasy7863
    @paulbeasy7863 5 років тому +4

    Geez, doesn’t that mosquitos rolls Royce’s sound pretty. Much better than the the 17s Pratt and Whitney’s.

  • @blusnuby2
    @blusnuby2 5 років тому +6

    A Mosquito, or a Bristol Beaufort Bomber would have been used in that 1-plane mission to do that pin-point bombing assignment---not a B-17.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +2

      But the mission was done with the B-17 because it was given to the yanks. Sorry.

  • @paulgerald5808
    @paulgerald5808 4 роки тому +2

    There was a bomber named The Lucky Lady and the Lady Lady Luck , both were I believe were B-17s . Thank you .

  • @m.w.wilson234
    @m.w.wilson234 4 роки тому +3

    @6:10 - This is the USAF radar at Tempelhof Central Airport, West Berlin. This is the way I remember it in 1973. I am sure that the internet has some pictures to prove it.

  • @rexdenemo5235
    @rexdenemo5235 Рік тому +4

    If there ever was a tv series that needed to be digitally re-mastered, digitally enhanced and converted to color, this is the one to do. V/r. Robin Rex DeNemo former Lt. U.S.N.R.

    • @davidlium9338
      @davidlium9338 Рік тому +2

      Except I don’t think it should be colorized.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@davidlium9338 I think it's a good idea,

  • @carlreed6186
    @carlreed6186 Рік тому +1

    As an old dart player we all had our own darts and extra flights

  • @marcelsimard1555
    @marcelsimard1555 Рік тому +3

    I recall robert lancing in the show 87 th precient, with norman fell and gina rowland

  • @bilhanissenson
    @bilhanissenson 10 років тому +26

    When I was a girl, in an army base in Asmara i was deeply in love with general savage, now that I see him again after 50 years I can understand why, a real hero.

    • @pjzdreamz
      @pjzdreamz 10 років тому +11

      Me too ! The character represented here by the Brigadeer qualifies as a warrior. In that same 50 odd year period I have served in the US Navy and met a few in three military services. There are lots of good soldiers and sailors, but the title 'Warrior' denotes a very special, select breed.

    • @jimelliott6232
      @jimelliott6232 9 років тому +3

      pjzdreamz ac tion movie z action movie's a great day to

    • @mariakelly4179
      @mariakelly4179 6 років тому +3

      Bilha Nissenson I've been in love with General Savage since 2010.

    • @frederickwise5238
      @frederickwise5238 6 років тому +3

      Bilha, you said a magic word. 10 years later I was writing software for "guys" at that base. LOL Had a good friend posted there lost his truck when the "natives" got restless and attacked the base. Direct rocket hit on his pickup. Never was reimbursed.

    • @terryhawkins8191
      @terryhawkins8191 5 років тому +4

      Bilha Nissenson I hate the episode where he's shot down and KILLED off !!😢👍👍

  • @KIP51448
    @KIP51448 5 років тому +6

    Who are the 18 people who give this a thumbs down? I don't get it.

    • @allandavis8201
      @allandavis8201 5 років тому +4

      KIP51448, it never ceases to amaze and confuse me when people dislike a video, film etc without commenting why, but you can bet that they aren’t classic tv series buffs, probably younger people who expect everything to be like todays Hollywood big budget movies.

    • @ohwhatelse
      @ohwhatelse 4 роки тому +3

      From the DUMBED down set who haven't a clue about war, heroes, bravery, or the extra mile. OR they're neo Nazis, I suppose.

    • @kathyyoung1774
      @kathyyoung1774 Рік тому

      @@allandavis8201 They probably disagree with actual history and want to change it. These brave men would also be accused of “toxic masculinity “ by pajama boys and strident feminists.

  • @stevedandy973
    @stevedandy973 5 років тому +9

    Once a B-17 goes in to a "death spiral," all the crew can do is bail out.

    • @rodfirefighter8341
      @rodfirefighter8341 5 років тому +7

      Bail out is very difficult during a death spiral, g-forces will pin you into certain areas of a B-17. Not much you can do against that!

    • @paulgerald5808
      @paulgerald5808 5 років тому +7

      If they can ,centrifutil force will trap you in a spinning or spiraling aircraft , Good luck in bailing out . Thank you

    • @deanguando1335
      @deanguando1335 4 роки тому +6

      @@rodfirefighter8341 - thanks Rod - I always wondered how you could possibly get out under that condition.

  • @Kimdino1
    @Kimdino1 6 років тому +8

    Nazi Germany was never a signatory to the Geneva Convention. Many of its officers honoured its requirements out of respect, but they were in no way required to. Thus nothing they ever did could be a breach of the treaty and, though unfair, there was nothing technically wrong with keeping Ps.O.W. in a combat zone.

    • @cloddert
      @cloddert 2 роки тому +3

      Not sure why you think that. Look up the 1929 Geneva Convention (the one that dealt with prisoners of war) and you will see Germany as a signatory.

    • @Kimdino1
      @Kimdino1 2 роки тому

      @@cloddert The Weimar Republic was a signatory, but Nazi Germany would not accept many of the agreements made by them and never signed on their own behalf. So. Nazi Germany was not a signatory.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому

      @@cloddert Nice catch!

  • @Scatscar1985
    @Scatscar1985 4 роки тому +5

    Tim O'Connor was young once?

  • @lonestone55
    @lonestone55 7 років тому +14

    I need a drink and a smoke.

    • @mariakelly4179
      @mariakelly4179 6 років тому +2

      Kevin D So do I (seriously).

    • @joechiodi5529
      @joechiodi5529 5 років тому +2

      Did you get that drink Maria?

    • @mariakelly5
      @mariakelly5 5 років тому +2

      @@joechiodi5529 I'm working on it.

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому +1

      Fast forward to "Platoon" and roll one of the gangster green. I hate the smell of cigraettes.

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому +1

      @Maria Kelly Always my pleasure. I find a lot of good fellowship here in the UA-cam comments section!

  • @andresferrari5859
    @andresferrari5859 Рік тому +4

    I am in the majority when it comes to Robert Lansing vs Paul Burk. Rather than killing off Lansing's character of General Savage,... a better choice would have been to give Savage a promotion to a two star general to take the place of General Crow. While he wouldn't have been in every episode, he would have been in many and sometimes would fly missions with Burk's character as the an observer and co-pilot.

    • @AdmiralNelson1000
      @AdmiralNelson1000 4 місяці тому

      Good idea. Wish we had all the facts but maybe not possible now. One story goes that Robert Lansing wouldn't accept the proposed changes that seemingly would have grounded the General.

  • @dontrotter1099
    @dontrotter1099 4 роки тому +3

    a german colonel with the knights cross with swords and diamonds but no other badges to show how he earned it.

  • @rotax636nut5
    @rotax636nut5 5 років тому +3

    I could see the det cord ignite that set off the dynamite they used to blow up the building

  • @stephensorenson-z6h
    @stephensorenson-z6h 2 місяці тому

    i like in this 12 o'clock high episode,that they had tim o'connor who played elliot carson on'peyton place'!

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 Рік тому +1

    June 1942, a grim time.

  • @ohwhatelse
    @ohwhatelse 4 роки тому +3

    I was the 7th child in our family, born in 1944. At some point, we had had a nice fat hog that was meant to help provide for our large family. But, the gov't came & took it "to support the war...", whatever.... We were poor country ppl & I know Dad never again trusted the gov't. about anything! Did they take that much from others, who had more than we did? Or just from farmers & those who had what they wanted?
    You always have to wonder how much of that kind of stuff is pilfered by greedy fingers, though. Well, at least WE wondered!

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому

      I don't think I would either! Nixon was in charge of Gas ration cards, and I heard that cheated on those to his own benefit.

  • @lsmart
    @lsmart 4 роки тому +14

    For those who wonder why I and so many others can't stop raving about Lansing and bemoaning the downgrade with his replacement Burke, just look at how central Lansing's simple dialogues with Crow and Stovall and others are to each of these episodes. Perhaps Burke was not the only reason that the producers chose a more typical TV approach in seasons 2 and 3 with scripts about loners going haywire and nearly wrecking their unit before redeeming themselves in a final blaze, and with lots of bailouts and POW scenes and commando raids, but part of it was surely because they could not build an episode around quiet, emotional and thought-provoking dialogue scenes with Burke as they could with Lansing.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      I think that these things you say could be factors in the decision.

  • @paulgerald5808
    @paulgerald5808 5 років тому

    The only 4 engine aircraft the flies like a fighter plane . She is extremely manouvreavle aircraft . Thank you .

  • @letunityblossom5733
    @letunityblossom5733 3 роки тому +1

    Ich schaue aus die Europäische Union, Litauen. Danke.

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 5 років тому +3

    These stories seem true.. unlike the Space movies and tv shows...sci fi at best!

  • @timlaird4323
    @timlaird4323 5 років тому +11

    A lot of smoking in that era. But everyone is smoking filtered cigarettes which were not introduced until 1954.

    • @axiomist1076
      @axiomist1076 5 років тому +5

      Tim Laird Thats ok. In a movie with Tom Hanks filmed in Israel, he was an American pilot who falls for a girl (this is in 1942) and he takes her out in a 1953 MG-TD.

    • @brd400
      @brd400 5 років тому +3

      Most people smoke back then including....... gasp .....in front of children

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 4 роки тому +2

      @@brd400 Drank like fish too. Many would be considered boozers in today's culture.

    • @DominiqueCurtis-p8i
      @DominiqueCurtis-p8i Місяць тому

      I actually wrote to RL back then about the cig filter. He wrote back a little note (in ink, bleu) explaining. About the filter. W/ an autographed photo. I wish I still had it.

  • @duanelarue6292
    @duanelarue6292 2 роки тому +1

    Apparently Quinn Martin didn't get along with Lansing

  • @jeffmilroy9345
    @jeffmilroy9345 Рік тому +1

    The most troubling of this is the results of the strategy. No one has ever proved that allied bombing of Germany ever achieved its primary goals. But then, territorial disputes are an evolved behavior across all species. No individual is spared. At best, at least it can be said it pulled Luftwaffe fighters off the ground campaign. I suppose that is something.

  • @skye1212
    @skye1212 4 роки тому +3

    What a show. Based on incredible real life sacrifice. They should have never replaced Robert Lansing
    in the show. Paul Burke was fine but not as good imo.

  • @sillyone52062
    @sillyone52062 5 років тому +3

    Not typical for the bombers to hit the same target twice in a row, much less 3x in a row. Had to happen for the story, I guess.

  • @rollosnook
    @rollosnook 4 роки тому +3

    Co-pilots gets shot in every episode, most dangerous job in the 8th Air Force...

    • @rollosnook
      @rollosnook 4 роки тому

      @Maria Kelly And a German from "The Longest Day"

  • @bobbarker1476
    @bobbarker1476 Рік тому +2

    This was a hi karate episode.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому +1

      I remember Hai Karate commercials as a kid! Thought they were cool! wanted the stuff, you never know when that might come in handy...

  • @Christopher41791
    @Christopher41791 3 роки тому +1

    Robert Lansing was a Great Talented Actor, unfortunately he was wrongfully Fired , because he didn't fit into the Scheme of things in Hollywood , in those Days. I can say the Same about Actor George Peppard .....!

  • @allandavis8201
    @allandavis8201 Рік тому +2

    TBH I only watch this series so I can see how many rewrites of history the production company decides to include, so far it’s only one, the main focus of the mission to destroy the German ability to produce “flying bombs” (the V1 and V2) was on Peenamunda where Werner Von Braun (later an American hero and NASA director) was perfecting the V2 to destroy British and European cities, not a fishing reel manufacturing plant, Lyon France.
    This isn’t about the history of the war, more of a point of principle, it always strikes me the General Savage can do whatever he wants when he wants, did one star Generals really have the authority to ring up a fighter group and get them to do a photo recon of a heavily defended target?, especially when they already had all the photographs they might need, it’s not that I don’t know that this is all fictional but if your going to make a TV 📺 series about the military in WWII then it should reflect the TRUE HISTORY OF THAT WAR, it is almost denigrating to see military operations and procedures swept away until they might never have existed, and as a veteran I don’t think it is right or proper to behave in such an offhand manner with military service.
    Ok, I take back the reason for the PR flight, but not how it was organised. The other thing I don’t get is why did the German guards fall for the most overused escape ruse in tv history, I don’t believe they would, the German guards would give a dam about a prisoner in pain.
    I really don’t think that the “pinpoint bombing” of that building would have been done by a B-17, especially when the RAF had the “wooden wonder”, the Mosquito, that had a reputation for pinpoint missions like this one, and again,I know it is only fictional, but nonetheless the Mosquito was faster could carry nearly the same bomb load and could bomb from a lower altitude than the B-17, so it would only make sense to give the mission to the RAF, I’m sure the writers could have written in that General Savage had been trained to fly the mosquito and would fly the mission, if he missed then the rest of the group would follow in and bomb the whole area, just like General Wiley wanted.

    • @MaveRick-on2cm
      @MaveRick-on2cm 7 місяців тому

      I don't remember seeing a mosquito in the show, or at the base. the mosquito had no weapons except its speed (and bombs) last I knew.

  • @davidcarr6329
    @davidcarr6329 4 роки тому +2

    For all the smoking they do, I wish they'd paid attention to details. Filtered cigarettes didn't exist until 1954.

    • @Elvis20101
      @Elvis20101 3 роки тому +1

      Everyone comments on filtered cigarettes, it's a TV show

  • @happy04346
    @happy04346 4 роки тому +2

    It's surprising that just two men died in something like this?

  • @scottgoodman8993
    @scottgoodman8993 5 років тому +1

    One of the enlisted crew looks like Deuce Bigalow.

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 5 років тому +3

    Gasoline truck bomb...pre dates a similar real attack in 1982 of the USMC barracks in Lebanon ...weird!

  • @richardleonhardt8440
    @richardleonhardt8440 2 роки тому

    I wish I could have been there with them

  • @paulgerald5808
    @paulgerald5808 5 років тому +2

    Shoulder patch of the USAAF 8th Airforce ???

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 5 років тому +2

    I am going to guess he was in the radio Army group from 1946 to 1948...after WW2...his publicist tried to make it look like he was a WW2 vet...10 in 1939....12...13...14...15...1941 to 1945...supposedly was on the radio on 1948 to 1950 in Indiana. ...he was only 16 to 18 years old in 1946 to 1948...Osaka Japan. .after Japan fell...

  • @dontaylor9392
    @dontaylor9392 8 років тому +4

    6:35 Why all of a sudden is the general in the co-pilot seat???

    • @13TMO
      @13TMO 7 років тому +1

      The general is the co-pilot. 7:06

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 7 років тому

      normally he is the left-seater

    • @mariakelly4179
      @mariakelly4179 6 років тому +2

      DON TAYLOR Nice piece of trivia: it's the only time Savage is the co-pilot in the series, for whatever reason.

  • @rodlaidlaw-b3f
    @rodlaidlaw-b3f 8 місяців тому

    was that robert blake on the bombsite?

  • @1stinsonguy
    @1stinsonguy 4 роки тому

    Our brigadier is out of uniform, wearing white socks 41:24 HaHaHa

  • @DouglasKYoung
    @DouglasKYoung 5 років тому +2

    When does Sergeant Schultz come into the Show?

  • @artiemcc
    @artiemcc 4 роки тому

    I'm going to torch me up a filter tip.

  • @user-wp4zh6po3k
    @user-wp4zh6po3k Рік тому +1

    Robert Lansing/Robert Stack. Related ??

  • @markhodge7
    @markhodge7 Рік тому

    If it happened, that has Congressional written all over it

  • @johnt.4947
    @johnt.4947 4 роки тому

    At 46:35, "enough with air raid siren!"

  • @82Echo411
    @82Echo411 10 років тому +12

    seem like a job for RAF Mosquitos or B-25s

    • @Rikki0
      @Rikki0 9 років тому +8

      +82Echo411 Indeed. Mosquitoes were the best low level pin point bombers of the war.

    • @robertsmoot7640
      @robertsmoot7640 6 років тому +3

      82Echo411! Right you are especially about the Mosquitos, they would be perfect for that job not a 17.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 5 років тому +1

      @@robertsmoot7640 Or a Typhoon

    • @rodfirefighter8341
      @rodfirefighter8341 5 років тому +2

      P-38 would have been what was available? Makes sense!

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 5 років тому +3

    Losing 70 men per mission in the air...sure they cared less about 5 POWs at the impact point...

    • @ohwhatelse
      @ohwhatelse 4 роки тому +3

      Hey, if they were building the new bomb tech whatever down there the war could have been lost simply from NOT bombing whether the guys were there or not! & Templeton's/Tim Connors' (?) staying behind (in a reality case) to do what he did could have made that much difference! THAT is what REAL HEROES DO! Yes, we still have such heroes, the likes of which our druggies, whiners, & nit wits will NEVER thank for their freedom to waste their lives! God bless & protect our troops!

  • @petecarnes6024
    @petecarnes6024 4 роки тому +2

    🔥 BIC lighter wins the war 🔥