The way Bea and the Freak talk over each other as they argue coming up the corridor is a remarkable piece of television production - a real master stroke ... a type of 'polyphony' dialogue.
Agreed. Love it ! Together with Cop Shop on channel 7 back in the day. Sometimes I just want to go back to the best decade, the 80s. Not to mention the music was better also. Nick M
the acting was truly awful the sets were by shaking stevens a friend of mine set the acting is that bad they should be in jail the ITV network here in the uk this show was shown late night tv which tells you something when people were going to bed and this was shown , there was show called Naked Video BBC Scotland in the ninties did a take off of Prisoner Cell Block and it was closing part where the where music plays and the warder starts closing all the gates and all the sets all start falling down one by one showing how bad the production was
@@RobertKincaid-vq3hn I'm in Scotland and me and my pals used to love this show, there was genuine pathos in it, great characters...i guess all that went over your head mate, nevermind eh
@RobertKincaid-vq3hn And yet, this show that you seem to spend so much time and energy on hating, has managed to still carry a good cult following 45 + years after it started. Also, it aired at all different times of the day in the UK over the years. So assuming it being on late at night, one time, is what supposedly proves that the show was apparently not good, is just laughable. But well done on going to so much trouble to spread that negativity around.
Back in the 90’s we were changing trains in Peterborough England to Leeds and there she was smoking on the platform Bee, me my mum and 2 sisters and brother all couldn’t believe it as we all watched it with mum. She got on the same train so my sisters approached her to ask if it was really her and to which she smiled and said yes. We got her autographed unfortunately didn’t have a camera but it was such a lovely experience as were use to stay up late on a Thursday night to watch it!
I remember watching this episode aboard R.M.S Titanic and Captain Smith ordered the t.v to be switched off and the passengers started to riot.. The ship was torn to pieces and of course, it sank..White Star Lines made up the story about the iceberg to save their reputation.. You have all been lied to..🌜🌛👻👻🎅🤶🌈🧨🤡🤡🤡💀💀💀💀💀🎃🎃🛸🚀🎠🎍🎍👽👽👽
same here - how good was it then and how good it still is true ! - took me 8 months to watch every episode from 1-692 even searched for the one or two that where missing and watched those as well
Judy returning back to prison at almost the same time Bea departed somewhat filled the void for me. Betty Bobbitt was a standout. I'm currently watching the series from the start (since childhood when it first aired), and I'm finding many inconsistencies, including Meg's son leaving the show so early on and then returning years later, with no mention of his pregnant girlfriend, Bea's kidney transplant never mentioned again (never see her take any antirejection (immunosuppressant) medications post surgery) and Doreen's long absence and more strangely never spoken about again until Lizzie receives a letter from her from out of the blue (and Bea later escaped with Nola's money and sought out Doreen's place). I'm also finding it strange that some actors were used to play more than one role, including a young Stefan Dennis (3 roles) and more notable, Lesley Baker, best known for playing Monica Ferguson returned to play the character of 'Tinker'.
TV shows before the 90's and 00's, weren't really made for an audience that was big into over-analysing every word, every scene, etc. Storylines didn't always have to drag on for many, many months, with some huge profound moment to tie up the end of each storyline. It was more basic and simple back then. TV script writers told stories that only lasted 1-2 episodes most of the time, except for cliffhanger episodes which would sometimes build up over a few more episodes. They didn't go into the nitty gritty of the storylines, either, when it came to illnesses, etc. And they didn't exactly have a plethora of actors and actresses to call upon to play parts (particularly minor parts), so what was available would often do the rounds on many Aussie tv shows playing bit parts all the time. Until they were lucky enough to finally get a show or main role of their own. The same thing with actors playing multiple parts in a tv show still happens on tv shows in the U.S and the UK, to this day.
She never asked to be killed off, she asked to kill the freak but as herself and Lizzie were leaving they couldn't afford to lose another big character
It kind of reminds me of Shelley Long from Cheers. She thought that she could have a successful Career in Movies but it didn't pan out. Ted Danson's Career in Movies didn't do well either. To Fans they were Sam Malone & Diane Chambers and it was hard for people to see them otherwise. Although Ted did well as Becker as well as the Angel in the new NBC Series, they nor Val Lehman didn't do as well as they thought.
Omg, the nostalgia 😭 used to love this, watching with my 2 brothers and my mom but really shouldn't have been, having school in the morning 😆 happy times
Lived in Sydney as a child from 81 to 83. Used to watch this, Son's and daughters, Dr who, Paul Hogan show, Monkey magic, Sounds. Skippy, and a show with the guy from the Skyhooks. And The Young ones.
Ged Woods I’ve watched both and love both Lizzy’s but I love the remake Lizzy more because she had morals and she only lagged to stop the girls from overdosing on drugs and to put a killer behind bars.
As a youngster I was allowed to stay up only on Prisoner night to watch it. My whole family was hooked backed then and considering my parents were new Australians I think back and find it strange how hooked they were to this wonderful show. Great times and lovely memories.
This was a huge hit in the US/Yankeestan.As a kid, I had a huge crush on Queen Bea.I pictured her as a latter day (Aussie) Boudicca.A big,badass,brainy redhead.
It was the creators being mean spirited as Val didn't want to come back after being invited to do so to help ratings, so they killed her off as a 'screw you'. When the announcement is made Myra says it to a bunch of characters who wouldn't know or care who Bea was. Bea should have been the one to serve the Freak at the end instead of Rita.
@@JeremiahEcks777 As much as I agree with how mean spirited it was, how the treated Val's character. I think Rita was the right person to have brought down Joan. And I always felt she knew that she did it for every single woman that the Freak messed with over the years, and not just at Wentworth, either.
@mebeme007 I do like Rita, a lot, but the show was on life support at the time. The show was basically only three characters - Joan, Lurch and Rita. I wish Lou Kelly had survived that long to the end.
the resignation of lehman shook the producers you have to remember, they had expected her to return and banked on being able to buy her back but lehman wasn't budging. They didn't give her the big exit as they thought she'd be back.
@@shanefolan The reason they never have her the big exit was because they were hoping she would change into a giant queen ant and she would eat the prisoners..🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐝🐝🦗🦗👸🏼👸🏼🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜👽👽🤡💀💀💀
They really could have given her a better fitting exit to the character. Very disappointing and lame. You just couldn't believe Bea would let Joan have the last word.
I love prisoner one of the best shows Ever made characters in this show are brilliant.. But Bea what a character I refused to watch any more when she left It's like taking Gilligan away from Gilligan's island... I understand she was done with the character But I hate how her character ended like that Her character deserved alot better then that I personally hate it cause the freak won I think we all wanted bea to get the final victory I know she ends up dying But I wish the final episode She showed up like a ghost telling the freak I'll see u hell
It's all Val's fault. She got too big for her britches and thought she'd become a movie star...which never materialised. The writers were stuck: how do you make a female prisoner leave a prison show without being killed off. They could only transfer her characters away to another prison, to keep the storyline open for her returning in future.
Ever since The Freak arrived at Wentworth Prison Bea Smith battled against her tooth & nail until episode 400 when she was unceremoniously shanghaied in front of her best mate Lizzie (the late great Sheila Florence), the show wasn't the same without Queen Bea for a while until Myra Desmond came back into the picture & became top dog for a long while until terrorists shot her dead in cold blood in front of all her mates!, afterwards the show dragged on again without a good top dog until tough bikie Rita Conners arrived, meanwhile The Freak always got away with corruption ever since she arrived & had a few close shaves from getting caught but was always 1 step ahead by covering her tracks until the final episode 692 when she was tricked by Rita Connors faking her death from cancer which gave The Freak the opportunity to find & grab a hidden bag of stolen payroll money then finally caught by the police!, I would've loved to have seen an extended alternate ending to episode 692 with The Freak's arrival at Barnhurst Prison & freaked out when greeted by non other than Bea Smith who'd secretly survived the Barnhurst fire?... THAT would had been the perfect conclusion to the entire series of Prisoner!
As much as I love this scene I’d have loved an extra one with Bea in reception still arguing with Joan right up until she’s put in the van and driven out of the gate.
An even better scenario would've been if Channel 10 paid Fiona Spence (Vera) a heap of $$$ to briefly return and do a Cameo appearance involving Bea arriving at Barnhurst and meeting with their Governor in her office. Old friend's reunited 😄 Bea's last dialogue being something along the lines of "Bloody Vera!"
proper sad..but the character deserved a better send of than that.. they basically sacked Val as she wanted to be paid what she felt she was worth. PCHP struggled a bit without Bea, then they killed her off screen and basically filled an episode with her best bits.
I agree,Poor Ending for a great Character,Bea should have left when Sandy Edwards arrived,she could have been paroled on compassionate grounds and gone to live with either Eddie and Marilyn or Monica in Queensland, while waiting for a kidney donor,and leaving Sandy as Top Dog to battle the Freak.
Bea WOULD have killed The Freak...she would not have cocked it up and that is what should have happened. However the producers could not afford to lose Val and Maggie.
Kev L I think it was on purpose. She knew what The Freak would do and knew that this was her only way to keep her from walking free. She planned the perfect sentence for the freak.
Daniel Vetter Val Lehman actually wanted her exit to be Bea killing Ferguson but that was not an option, especially as Sheila Florance (aka Lizzie) had also quit and was to leave the show shortly afterwards.
I think the reason bea came up with the idea of her exit to be killing the freak was because she had experience in coming up with amazing storylines on the show and proved to play the part extraordinarily well! Like her amnesia storyline she came up with the idea herself and she played the part so well I was surprised even for vals standards. I think they would have let beas exit to be killing the freak if only they could afford to loose Maggie too but they couldn't. But I could imagine that val would have came up with an amazing plot of how her exit could have been after killing the freak it would have been so well and they would have played the part amazing. And beas exit could have been were she kills the freak and is transferred to blackmoor instead of barnhurst because she murdered a screw so she'd have to go to a tougher prison, but the women from wentworth would cheer her on and always keep her space warm as top dog for doing the best deed in the prison and even the tough women from blackmoor will back down from bea and welcome her as top dog because of what she did by killing ferguson because they've all heard of her and how unbeatable she was, and for bea to beat her would have been the strongest thing a prisoner could do!! It would have been good to see something like this, obviously after bea gets top dog in blackmoor that would have been her exit while she's on the steam press or has the women standing around her clapping. I'd of loved something like this it would have been interesting, it made me angry the original exit because it made it look like ferguson had won so easily, why have her transferred without having to fight the authorities? It would have been easier to transfer her after the fire when bea nearly killed her. And why transfer her to barnhurst? You'd think if bea has just brutally bashed an officer(ferguson made it look worse) then they wouldn't send her from a maximum security prison to a minimum security open prison with prisoners like marie winter and janie and her mates which would cause trouble which is why marie was transferred to wentworth abit after bea left because they needed to be separated why not send bea? And everyone knew that bea and vera despised eachother just as much as ferguson and bea did! I know val left the show but there were so many opportunities were it looked like she could come back, I also would have thought ferguson would have sent bea to barnhurst because that's the easy life compared to wentworth. Last time bea was in barnhurst before the amnesia she was truly loving the life before the mushrooms but only because she was drugged, she was so glad to be up in the country having the quiet life. It was mentioned how amazing bea was at barnhurst after her death but for all of her time there it was never mentioned weather she was top dog or not?? I know she could of been but marie had everyone in the prison on side because they were bitches like her and loved drugs so I don't know, I hope bea did take down marie but it was never mentioned the only thing said about bea and marie is that they needed to be separated so marie ended up in wentworth. But maybe bea did take marie down and was top dog and thats why marie was transferred because she's a drug dealer and vera probably wanted the prison run smoothly with her tight security and bea was probably a better bet because she's not into drugs and keeps the women into line and out of trouble. Idk I've gone abit of subject but I love talking about this show I love it!!!! 😂❤
@@joecasey5213 Eventually Marie Winter ended up in Blackmoor although we never saw her when Rita was transferred there later in the series. Blackmoor had not been 'invented' when Val was in the show as we only first heard of if when Myra was Top Dog, which is why Bea was transferred to Barnhurst, but that was unbeliveable because as you say it was a lower security prison and Bea had already escaped from Wentworth!
I thought wentworth detention centre was a maximum security jail. Why was it that bea was sent to barnhurst which was a medium security yet for attacking an officer you would of thought she would of been sent to blackmoor what a crap ending of a leed character.
Shame that Bea wasn't around to see the Freak get her comeuppance, what goes around comes around, Bea wasn't alive to see the Freak probably getting transferred to Barnhurst, to meet face to face
Val thought a lot of herself as an actress, but in reality she wasn't as good as all that and she was completely typecast. She stayed too long anyway, I think the riot in Episode 326 should've been her swansong. She was never quite as compelling after that
I don't agree that she was a poor actress (there's quite a few examples which demonstrate how good she could be) but I agree that she wasn't as effective post the fire. I think that was because Joan became a regular. Before that, they were constantly trying to get rid of the Freak with various attempts but after the fire, it settled into a Bea Vs Joan fued. And that was the new status quo. Whereas previously it was the Bea Smith show, it was now the Bea and Joan show. And by necessity, Bea wasn't all powerful anymore. The same thing happened with Joan. She gradually became more 3 dimensional and you saw her vulnerable side, but the sacrifice for that was that she became less scary and a cartoon villain eventually. Compare Joan's early body searches/midnight walks to later scenes of Joan being put in her place by Minnie et el. The show as a whole lost it's edge in later years.
The show never lost its edge with Joan,until then last year really.There was only so many times she could become governor,or be suspended...She lost a lot of her menace against Rita Connors,because Glenda Linscott was as tall as she was...and the writing was dumbed down,with less credible opposition for her
@@katdahlia1231 it's prisoner in Australia but in the UK they called it prisoner cell block h as there was already another series called prisoner ( about a spy trapped on an island)
Bea was all set to come back to Wentworth later on, but unfortunately her portrayer Val Lehman got a bit too big for her boots...wanted a massive paycheck for her services. The Producers finally got sick of her demands and killed the character off once and for all.
@@RoseSantos-ks6qe Mas tem algumas alternativas de séries com uma pegada "Wentworth" na Netflix.... Tem o "Prisão de mulheres" (Avlu) , série Turca que já citei , e tem Vis a Vis que é da espanha...
felt gutted when bea was killed in burnhurst off screen so when the bunhurst prisoners came to wentworth and myra was killed instead of bea being back as top dog we had the nora era which was boring bea was a better top dog than boring nora flynn
Furguson was No Better then the Inmates!!! She was Psychotic Too and I dk why Bea got herself back in there? She didn’t need to kill her ex It was her own actions that got her there Unfortunately. She killed her exes mistress and in front of others and missed out on being with her daughter Debbie &Yrs&Yrs of her life. Then to get out to have to go back!!! And sadly Furguson kills her but it’s Karma Bea killed adleast two people
It's the episode where Vera comes back and takes Lizzie on the Titanic and Lizzie drinks all the vodka on the ship and she steers it into an iceberg and it sank.. There was a few movies made which were based on the story..👽👽👻👻🌝🌝🌕🌙🎃🎃🛸💀💀
At 3.23 as The Freak closes the prison door you can see the 'wall' to the left shunt to the right a bit. Oh I use to love those wobbly sets. And the wobbly ladies.
I thought the wrong decision was made killing Bea off in a fire at Barnhurst. Of course when we saw it in the UK, it had finished years before but I went crazy (idiot!)🤣🤣🤣🤣
laminage And Hannah Simpson, Margo, Chrissie, Tracey Belman, Marie Winter, Tracey Morris, and Marie's lackeys, one of which we knew of, called Janie. 😃
I tried watching the new version of Prisoner or Wentworth as they call it, biggest load of crap. The original prisoner cell block H is brilliant, myself my sister and my pals were all hooked lol. My favourites were Wee Lizzie, Bea, Doreen, Judy and last but not least The Freak . Brilliant..
To write be out was so wrong yo kill her off left me upset Bea should of come back with the eight and it wouldn't of been to hard to have her finally take the freak out it should of been Bea or at least show her showing up at Doreens leading everyone to believe she died but really escaped and everyone looking for one inmate escaping so Noone looking for Bea a simple seen living the us believing Bea goes on and quietly lives out the rest of her life she was there from the start so many ways they could of taken Beabut to kill her off no good worst lazy writing ever
The way Bea and the Freak talk over each other as they argue coming up the corridor is a remarkable piece of television production - a real master stroke ... a type of 'polyphony' dialogue.
Maggie Kirkpatrick and Pamela Rabe are both bloody legends🖤
Almost 50 years on and I still can’t stop watching this show. How pioneering was Australian television in the 70s.
Agreed. Love it ! Together with Cop Shop on channel 7 back in the day. Sometimes I just want to go back to the best decade, the 80s. Not to mention the music was better also. Nick M
the acting was truly awful the sets were by shaking stevens a friend of mine set the acting is that bad they should be in jail the ITV network here in the uk this show was shown late night tv which tells you something when people were going to bed and this was shown , there was show called Naked Video BBC Scotland in the ninties did a take off of Prisoner Cell Block and it was closing part where the where music plays and the warder starts closing all the gates and all the sets all start falling down one by one showing how bad the production was
@@RobertKincaid-vq3hn I'm in Scotland and me and my pals used to love this show, there was genuine pathos in it, great characters...i guess all that went over your head mate, nevermind eh
@RobertKincaid-vq3hn
And yet, this show that you seem to spend so much time and energy on hating, has managed to still carry a good cult following 45 + years after it started.
Also, it aired at all different times of the day in the UK over the years.
So assuming it being on late at night, one time, is what supposedly proves that the show was apparently not good, is just laughable.
But well done on going to so much trouble to spread that negativity around.
Watched this original cell block H with my mother years ago. Loved it then, love it now.
Hearing Lizzie cry like that omg 😢 their characters were best mates on the show since it’s inception.
I’m watching them all again from the beginning. I’ll always remember this scene 😢
Aww used to watch this with my lovely mum she’s no longer with us now 🙏 but she loved it
Sorry for your loss... I know that pain
Back in the 90’s we were changing trains in Peterborough England to Leeds and there she was smoking on the platform Bee, me my mum and 2 sisters and brother all couldn’t believe it as we all watched it with mum. She got on the same train so my sisters approached her to ask if it was really her and to which she smiled and said yes. We got her autographed unfortunately didn’t have a camera but it was such a lovely experience as were use to stay up late on a Thursday night to watch it!
I met her last month she's 80 now at an event
Wow, the memories this brings. I used to watch this as a kid.
loved this show as a kid also... we can't forget "Frankie".. lololol
Same ere, late night Channel 4 job.
I remember watching this episode aboard R.M.S Titanic and Captain Smith ordered the t.v to be switched off and the passengers started to riot.. The ship was torn to pieces and of course, it sank..White Star Lines made up the story about the iceberg to save their reputation..
You have all been lied to..🌜🌛👻👻🎅🤶🌈🧨🤡🤡🤡💀💀💀💀💀🎃🎃🛸🚀🎠🎍🎍👽👽👽
same here - how good was it then and how good it still is true ! - took me 8 months to watch every episode from 1-692 even searched for the one or two that where missing and watched those as well
Me too, in Brazil.
Judy returning back to prison at almost the same time Bea departed somewhat filled the void for me. Betty Bobbitt was a standout. I'm currently watching the series from the start (since childhood when it first aired), and I'm finding many inconsistencies, including Meg's son leaving the show so early on and then returning years later, with no mention of his pregnant girlfriend, Bea's kidney transplant never mentioned again (never see her take any antirejection (immunosuppressant) medications post surgery) and Doreen's long absence and more strangely never spoken about again until Lizzie receives a letter from her from out of the blue (and Bea later escaped with Nola's money and sought out Doreen's place). I'm also finding it strange that some actors were used to play more than one role, including a young Stefan Dennis (3 roles) and more notable, Lesley Baker, best known for playing Monica Ferguson returned to play the character of 'Tinker'.
TV shows before the 90's and 00's, weren't really made for an audience that was big into over-analysing every word, every scene, etc.
Storylines didn't always have to drag on for many, many months, with some huge profound moment to tie up the end of each storyline.
It was more basic and simple back then.
TV script writers told stories that only lasted 1-2 episodes most of the time, except for cliffhanger episodes which would sometimes build up over a few more episodes.
They didn't go into the nitty gritty of the storylines, either, when it came to illnesses, etc.
And they didn't exactly have a plethora of actors and actresses to call upon to play parts (particularly minor parts), so what was available would often do the rounds on many Aussie tv shows playing bit parts all the time. Until they were lucky enough to finally get a show or main role of their own.
The same thing with actors playing multiple parts in a tv show still happens on tv shows in the U.S and the UK, to this day.
Big fan of Bea Smith. 😔🙁But She deserved a better ending than this🙁 & a better send off.
Val Lehman wanted out of Prisoner at the time to pursue bigger, better acting opportunities in the early 1980's. None of which ever happened for her.
she asked grundy to kill her off, they said no way
Really stuid and then they randomly say she died in a fire at Barnhurst? What the hell was the oint of that? The new writers at the end really sucked.
She never asked to be killed off, she asked to kill the freak but as herself and Lizzie were leaving they couldn't afford to lose another big character
It kind of reminds me of Shelley Long from Cheers. She thought that she could have a successful Career in Movies but it didn't pan out. Ted Danson's Career in Movies didn't do well either. To Fans they were Sam Malone & Diane Chambers and it was hard for people to see them otherwise. Although Ted did well as Becker as well as the Angel in the new NBC Series, they nor Val Lehman didn't do as well as they thought.
I hated this ending The Freak wouldn't even let Bea say goodbye to Lizzie and she was heart broken...
Omg, the nostalgia 😭 used to love this, watching with my 2 brothers and my mom but really shouldn't have been, having school in the morning 😆 happy times
I wasn’t allowed 😂
My mum would let me watch it, but only when dad said it was okay.
you are 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊k
I loved this show. We watched it at 11pm in NY on PBS.
Lived in Sydney as a child from 81 to 83. Used to watch this, Son's and daughters, Dr who, Paul Hogan show, Monkey magic, Sounds. Skippy, and a show with the guy from the Skyhooks. And The Young ones.
👍…. Ah- memories of retro tv. “Shirl’s Neighbourhood” was that show.
sssssooooooo wentworth is a remake of this
Autumn Lewis yes
Yes this is the O.G!!
Ged Woods I’ve watched both and love both Lizzy’s but I love the remake Lizzy more because she had morals and she only lagged to stop the girls from overdosing on drugs and to put a killer behind bars.
And "The Yard" on netflix , is an remake of Wentworth
@@vicpudim2680 wait what for real
R.I,P Sheila Florence, brilliant actress!!
If u didn't get told off stopping up late to watch Prisoner u weren't a part of the Wentworth crew🤣🤣🤣
2022 and still watching! We loved this show! It was the ancester to Orange Is The New Black.
Do you think there would have been an orange is the new black if not for prisoner in the period 1979-1986.
Awww Lizzie (wheres the grog) Loved Bea it was never the same once she left.
what happened to vinegar t-ts 🎈🎈🥥🥥vera lol 😆 😂 😅
Now shes dead in this show, god!! Allie you need to step up girl!!
As a youngster I was allowed to stay up only on Prisoner night to watch it. My whole family was hooked backed then and considering my parents were new Australians I think back and find it strange how hooked they were to this wonderful show. Great times and lovely memories.
Poor Lizzie you R.I.P we all miss you
Watched with my mom as a child whilst she was a drinker - but moms the best mate I’ve ever had and will always be xx love you mom
It started going downhill when Bea & Lizzie leave the show
Nah, it never went down hill, it had low eras, but all shows have that.
@@confidentconnor5741 Margo is awesome. Myra...eh...not so much.
Yeah producers brought in too many annoying characters Lexi and Bobbie could not stand any of them too. Both terrible
This was a huge hit in the US/Yankeestan.As a kid, I had a huge crush on Queen Bea.I pictured her as a latter day (Aussie) Boudicca.A big,badass,brainy redhead.
Poor Lizzie 😢😧😦😩😭
Yea a better ending wouldve satisfied us fans.. later they announce in some episode that she died in fire at Barnhurst :(
And we never got 2 see Joan's reaction 2 it
It was the creators being mean spirited as Val didn't want to come back after being invited to do so to help ratings, so they killed her off as a 'screw you'.
When the announcement is made Myra says it to a bunch of characters who wouldn't know or care who Bea was.
Bea should have been the one to serve the Freak at the end instead of Rita.
@@JeremiahEcks777
As much as I agree with how mean spirited it was, how the treated Val's character.
I think Rita was the right person to have brought down Joan.
And I always felt she knew that she did it for every single woman that the Freak messed with over the years, and not just at Wentworth, either.
@mebeme007 I do like Rita, a lot, but the show was on life support at the time. The show was basically only three characters - Joan, Lurch and Rita. I wish Lou Kelly had survived that long to the end.
And in the new show she just fucking died I'm pissed
Bea might not be dead though, but is Wentworth a remake of this show?
+RickGrimes MeetsMrMayhem I just finished the show... well.last season. and I'm crying :/
+RickGrimes MeetsMrMayhem yes
+Danie Marie I really hope she's not dead. It'd make no sense for there to be a season 5 and her not be in it
+Kristen Miller I feel like the original bea smith was like jacks and she's very mean in this one. I'm the new one, bea is a a good guy
But you can't take her away from me, she's the only mate I've got.
(One of the saddest scenes of Prisoner and brilliantly acted by all of them).
Man, that was a good scene,just when you think you’re out, they pull you back in. l-l-l-l
Words cannot express how disappointed i was with this conclusion.
the resignation of lehman shook the producers you have to remember, they had expected her to return and banked on being able to buy her back but lehman wasn't budging. They didn't give her the big exit as they thought she'd be back.
@@shanefolan The reason they never have her the big exit was because they were hoping she would change into a giant queen ant and she would eat the prisoners..🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐝🐝🦗🦗👸🏼👸🏼🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜👽👽🤡💀💀💀
CALM DOWN CHUBS
They really could have given her a better fitting exit to the character. Very disappointing and lame. You just couldn't believe Bea would let Joan have the last word.
I love prisoner one of the best shows
Ever made characters in this show are brilliant..
But Bea what a character I refused to watch any more when she left
It's like taking Gilligan away from Gilligan's island...
I understand she was done with the character
But I hate how her character ended like that
Her character deserved alot better then that I personally hate it cause the freak won I think we all wanted bea to get the final victory
I know she ends up dying
But I wish the final episode
She showed up like a ghost telling the freak
I'll see u hell
It's all Val's fault. She got too big for her britches and thought she'd become a movie star...which never materialised.
The writers were stuck: how do you make a female prisoner leave a prison show without being killed off. They could only transfer her characters away to another prison, to keep the storyline open for her returning in future.
Bea should have finished off the freak before she left.
That was Val's wish to the producers of the show. But they weren't going to hear of it! The Freak was their money maker for the next 3 years.
She should have
She would have.
She knew she couldn't, because she knows the freak is so heartless she would of made good on her threats at Lizzie
@@TotalMK Bea would have killed her. Therefore Lizzie would have been fine.
Ever since The Freak arrived at Wentworth Prison Bea Smith battled against her tooth & nail until episode 400 when she was unceremoniously shanghaied in front of her best mate Lizzie (the late great Sheila Florence), the show wasn't the same without Queen Bea for a while until Myra Desmond came back into the picture & became top dog for a long while until terrorists shot her dead in cold blood in front of all her mates!, afterwards the show dragged on again without a good top dog until tough bikie Rita Conners arrived, meanwhile The Freak always got away with corruption ever since she arrived & had a few close shaves from getting caught but was always 1 step ahead by covering her tracks until the final episode 692 when she was tricked by Rita Connors faking her death from cancer which gave The Freak the opportunity to find & grab a hidden bag of stolen payroll money then finally caught by the police!, I would've loved to have seen an extended alternate ending to episode 692 with The Freak's arrival at Barnhurst Prison & freaked out when greeted by non other than Bea Smith who'd secretly survived the Barnhurst fire?... THAT would had been the perfect conclusion to the entire series of Prisoner!
They should make another series and you should have wrote it.
As much as I love this scene I’d have loved an extra one with Bea in reception still arguing with Joan right up until she’s put in the van and driven out of the gate.
That would have been two laughs and a half.
An even better scenario would've been if Channel 10 paid Fiona Spence (Vera) a heap of $$$ to briefly return and do a Cameo appearance involving Bea arriving at Barnhurst and meeting with their Governor in her office. Old friend's reunited 😄 Bea's last dialogue being something along the lines of "Bloody Vera!"
@@VictoriaBitter1976 yes that would have been epic!
Oh the memories of watching this with my nan 😍
That was a pants ending for such a huge character 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Friendship of Bea and Lizzy awesome.
Bye Bea. So overrated. Got sick of her and Myra for that matter.
Before OZ before orange is the new black it was cell Block H
Now this was when Australian telly was worth watching
To Awesome ladies brilliant acting
proper sad..but the character deserved a better send of than that..
they basically sacked Val as she wanted to be paid what she felt she was worth.
PCHP struggled a bit without Bea, then they killed her off screen and basically filled an episode with her best bits.
what season and episode is this one i miss it i feel sorry for lizzie makes me cry when she is crying for bea like that
I can't believe they didn't have toilets in their cell... not to mention women need restrooms available at all times once a month, if u follow me .
I agree,Poor Ending for a great Character,Bea should have left when Sandy Edwards arrived,she could have been paroled on compassionate grounds and gone to live with either Eddie and Marilyn or Monica in Queensland, while waiting for a kidney donor,and leaving Sandy as Top Dog to battle the Freak.
Bea WOULD have killed The Freak...she would not have cocked it up and that is what should have happened. However the producers could not afford to lose Val and Maggie.
Kev L I think it was on purpose. She knew what The Freak would do and knew that this was her only way to keep her from walking free. She planned the perfect sentence for the freak.
Daniel Vetter Val Lehman actually wanted her exit to be Bea killing Ferguson but that was not an option, especially as Sheila Florance (aka Lizzie) had also quit and was to leave the show shortly afterwards.
Bea should have killed The Freak in the final episode, either on screen or off screen.
I think the reason bea came up with the idea of her exit to be killing the freak was because she had experience in coming up with amazing storylines on the show and proved to play the part extraordinarily well! Like her amnesia storyline she came up with the idea herself and she played the part so well I was surprised even for vals standards. I think they would have let beas exit to be killing the freak if only they could afford to loose Maggie too but they couldn't. But I could imagine that val would have came up with an amazing plot of how her exit could have been after killing the freak it would have been so well and they would have played the part amazing. And beas exit could have been were she kills the freak and is transferred to blackmoor instead of barnhurst because she murdered a screw so she'd have to go to a tougher prison, but the women from wentworth would cheer her on and always keep her space warm as top dog for doing the best deed in the prison and even the tough women from blackmoor will back down from bea and welcome her as top dog because of what she did by killing ferguson because they've all heard of her and how unbeatable she was, and for bea to beat her would have been the strongest thing a prisoner could do!! It would have been good to see something like this, obviously after bea gets top dog in blackmoor that would have been her exit while she's on the steam press or has the women standing around her clapping. I'd of loved something like this it would have been interesting, it made me angry the original exit because it made it look like ferguson had won so easily, why have her transferred without having to fight the authorities? It would have been easier to transfer her after the fire when bea nearly killed her. And why transfer her to barnhurst? You'd think if bea has just brutally bashed an officer(ferguson made it look worse) then they wouldn't send her from a maximum security prison to a minimum security open prison with prisoners like marie winter and janie and her mates which would cause trouble which is why marie was transferred to wentworth abit after bea left because they needed to be separated why not send bea? And everyone knew that bea and vera despised eachother just as much as ferguson and bea did! I know val left the show but there were so many opportunities were it looked like she could come back, I also would have thought ferguson would have sent bea to barnhurst because that's the easy life compared to wentworth. Last time bea was in barnhurst before the amnesia she was truly loving the life before the mushrooms but only because she was drugged, she was so glad to be up in the country having the quiet life. It was mentioned how amazing bea was at barnhurst after her death but for all of her time there it was never mentioned weather she was top dog or not?? I know she could of been but marie had everyone in the prison on side because they were bitches like her and loved drugs so I don't know, I hope bea did take down marie but it was never mentioned the only thing said about bea and marie is that they needed to be separated so marie ended up in wentworth. But maybe bea did take marie down and was top dog and thats why marie was transferred because she's a drug dealer and vera probably wanted the prison run smoothly with her tight security and bea was probably a better bet because she's not into drugs and keeps the women into line and out of trouble. Idk I've gone abit of subject but I love talking about this show I love it!!!! 😂❤
@@joecasey5213 Eventually Marie Winter ended up in Blackmoor although we never saw her when Rita was transferred there later in the series. Blackmoor had not been 'invented' when Val was in the show as we only first heard of if when Myra was Top Dog, which is why Bea was transferred to Barnhurst, but that was unbeliveable because as you say it was a lower security prison and Bea had already escaped from Wentworth!
I thought wentworth detention centre was a maximum security jail. Why was it that bea was sent to barnhurst which was a medium security yet for attacking an officer you would of thought she would of been sent to blackmoor what a crap ending of a leed character.
Blackmoor didn't exist then. Early in the series, Erica Davidson did threaten to send Bea Smith to a 'larger and much tougher' prison.
Sad,poor lizzy..
Shame that Bea wasn't around to see the Freak get her comeuppance, what goes around comes around, Bea wasn't alive to see the Freak probably getting transferred to Barnhurst, to meet face to face
Wow 😂
Pause at 2:20
@@sulej2925 Joan's face is hilarious
My god, growing up & in hindsight this was a real education about the female species. No wonder the oldman loved it!
A great 👍 character
The freak was hilarious and hideous.
I love this show but for me the freak was a bad introduction it was never the same after she came in.
That is rubbish..Vera was too nice and they needed a nastier screw
@@georgesullivan4473 it turned into the Joan Ferguson show that's probably why Val Lehman left she noticed it as well.
Now, why didn't she do this in the first place instead of going to all the trouble of making her think her dead daughter was visiting her?
The freak was a sadist and seeing Bea break down was her payoff.
Val thought a lot of herself as an actress, but in reality she wasn't as good as all that and she was completely typecast. She stayed too long anyway, I think the riot in Episode 326 should've been her swansong. She was never quite as compelling after that
You need some haterade with that?
I don't agree that she was a poor actress (there's quite a few examples which demonstrate how good she could be) but I agree that she wasn't as effective post the fire. I think that was because Joan became a regular.
Before that, they were constantly trying to get rid of the Freak with various attempts but after the fire, it settled into a Bea Vs Joan fued. And that was the new status quo. Whereas previously it was the Bea Smith show, it was now the Bea and Joan show. And by necessity, Bea wasn't all powerful anymore. The same thing happened with Joan. She gradually became more 3 dimensional and you saw her vulnerable side, but the sacrifice for that was that she became less scary and a cartoon villain eventually. Compare Joan's early body searches/midnight walks to later scenes of Joan being put in her place by Minnie et el. The show as a whole lost it's edge in later years.
The show never lost its edge with Joan,until then last year really.There was only so many times she could become governor,or be suspended...She lost a lot of her menace against Rita Connors,because Glenda Linscott was as tall as she was...and the writing was dumbed down,with less credible opposition for her
Fergo really was that vindictive. Love it!
WAIT TILL THE LAST SERIES FREAK YOUR GOING TO GET WHATS COMMING TO YOU
THIS IS SO CONFUSING. OLDEN DAY WENTWORTh OR??????
Wentworth is a remake of this.
Not that confusing..
This is prisoner
@@katdahlia1231 it's prisoner in Australia but in the UK they called it prisoner cell block h as there was already another series called prisoner ( about a spy trapped on an island)
It's an old episode of Charlie Brown. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
was that that? i thought she came back from Barnhurst
Bea was all set to come back to Wentworth later on, but unfortunately her portrayer Val Lehman got a bit too big for her boots...wanted a massive paycheck for her services. The Producers finally got sick of her demands and killed the character off once and for all.
@@VictoriaBitter1976 lots of inaccuracies with this claim.
Awful ending for this iconic character …
Is Lizzie Birdsworth the worst actor in the history of everything ever made?
Tipo um remake de wentworth, mil vezes wentworth 😍
Wentworth é um remake dessa série , e tem um remake de Wentworth na netflix chamado Avlu ( ou Prisão de Mulheres) os 3 são bons !
@@vicpudim2680 então eu soube esses dias que o wentworth que era o remake mais queria assistir essa série tbm será que tem legendado em português
@@RoseSantos-ks6qe Vish...Prisoner Cell Block H eu nunca achei legendado KKKKKK
@@RoseSantos-ks6qe Mas tem algumas alternativas de séries com uma pegada "Wentworth" na Netflix....
Tem o "Prisão de mulheres" (Avlu) , série Turca que já citei ,
e tem Vis a Vis que é da espanha...
@@vicpudim2680 já assistir todos só queria o celblock agr
Who's that on the press?
Sonia Stevens
felt gutted when bea was killed in burnhurst off screen so when the bunhurst prisoners came to wentworth and myra was killed instead of bea being back as top dog we had the nora era which was boring bea was a better top dog than boring nora flynn
Furguson was No Better then the Inmates!!! She was Psychotic Too and I dk why Bea got herself back in there? She didn’t need to kill her ex It was her own actions that got her there Unfortunately. She killed her exes mistress and in front of others and missed out on being with her daughter Debbie &Yrs&Yrs of her life. Then to get out to have to go back!!! And sadly Furguson kills her but it’s Karma Bea killed adleast two people
Bea smith the boss
What episode
Episode 400.
It's the episode where Vera comes back and takes Lizzie on the Titanic and Lizzie drinks all the vodka on the ship and she steers it into an iceberg and it sank..
There was a few movies made which were based on the story..👽👽👻👻🌝🌝🌕🌙🎃🎃🛸💀💀
At 3.23 as The Freak closes the prison door you can see the 'wall' to the left shunt to the right a bit. Oh I use to love those wobbly sets. And the wobbly ladies.
I thought the wrong decision was made killing Bea off in a fire at Barnhurst. Of course when we saw it in the UK, it had finished years before but I went crazy (idiot!)🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just had a thought. If Bea ended up at Barnhurst, wouldn't Vera Bennett be there.
She was!!.... Even years later and towards the end of Prisoner, references were made about Vera as governor of Barnhurst!!
laminage And Hannah Simpson, Margo, Chrissie, Tracey Belman, Marie Winter, Tracey Morris, and Marie's lackeys, one of which we knew of, called Janie. 😃
Vera was eaten by giant ants so no, she wouldn't be there.🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜👸🏼🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜👸🏼🐜🐜🐜🐜🤡🤡👙💀
are you twat
episode 534 bea ended dead at barnhurstt
Oh bagger ...struth !
Dingo loves Ferguson
I tried watching the new version of Prisoner or Wentworth as they call it, biggest load of crap. The original prisoner cell block H is brilliant, myself my sister and my pals were all hooked lol. My favourites were Wee Lizzie, Bea, Doreen, Judy and last but not least The Freak . Brilliant..
The new version is more violent and gritty how a prison would be.
Wentworth is way better this is for posh old lady’s
@@kayburley8121 lol what are you doing here...
@@laurs5551 Without this Wentworth wouldn't exist. This show is amazing. Wentworth is also pretty good.
@@dingo1150 Stfu I called the police
But no one died
What's this? Lol original Wentworth.
To write be out was so wrong yo kill her off left me upset Bea should of come back with the eight and it wouldn't of been to hard to have her finally take the freak out it should of been Bea or at least show her showing up at Doreens leading everyone to believe she died but really escaped and everyone looking for one inmate escaping so Noone looking for Bea a simple seen living the us believing Bea goes on and quietly lives out the rest of her life she was there from the start so many ways they could of taken Beabut to kill her off no good worst lazy writing ever
All the original characters in Prisoner are better than the wentworth ones except for Joan!...both Maggie and Pamela are equally perfect in the role.
Birdsworth LOL
The Freak was the best
Hunt cow
Good riddance. The most over rated Top dog in the sows history. A below average actor who thinks waaaay to much of herself to boot.
You sir are a wanker
Moron by name. Moron by nature
@@jasonbutcher4833 hahaha good one Jays lol
These sound like the words of Lou Kelly... You sure she didn't brainwash you or are you her ghost?
Wow was acting this bad in the 1980s?!?!
Nothing else to watch