Idle Heroes - "NEW" Optimal Build Order for New Accounts
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Hey everyone, I feel like it is a good time to talk about the meta shift we have seen in the past 3-6 months for early/mid game accounts. HHA has turned out to be a support powerhouse with Eloise, and transitioning away from your starting heroes has really become big once you get your 2nd Transcendence Hero. What do you think about this ordering???
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I started with HHA and it’s really fun, though I’m a first time player so I’ve never used Vesa. Putting a glittery AMB on him has worked really well.
The only thing i think some ppl might struggle with is accumulating enough dark fodder to get the mockman in your last tenant slot as long as you dont have pde. Otherwise totally agree, this is the best progression you can do
Like me 😢
Way back when we only had 3 trans i went aspen queen as my first 2. It was amazing then, and still is today. Just no one believed me back then, cause everyone was so obsessed with sfx.
Same, I made Aspen as my first trans and everyone called me crazy until aspen has started to become crazy good
not me. never built a sfx,and i have 4 transendnce heroes now. sfx is overvalued.
Um Aspen wasn't one of the first trans heroes the order was sfx,sqh,atd,fqv,swj, THEN Aspen
Switch around fqv and swj but still he was never a thing when we had only 3 -
I was waiting for someone to call his dumbass out
@@nedsirtgaming7222 😭 I was so confused
What if you are already at the void campaign and you're waiting on your first Trans hero?
Ok, but why is Aylamak one of the new best first Trancendence heroes? U showed why he s good because of his tree of origin, but u are gonna invest the essence in eloise anyway right?
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He is good for eloise accounts because he can give shields to enemies that block. Since eloise revolves around always blocking, he is pretty good. Im not an expert tho so its peobably more to it
One thing i dont get is: We are supposed to go for HHA as first trans in this route and then you keep saying we should build LFA and SQH as our first 2(!) trans heroes. Where does HHA go? Is he getting swapped? Did i miss that?
swap HHA out after u finish campaign for LFA
Hey barry I also built fqv recently and I think she is better than hha as she is a good pve dmg dealer whereas aylamak sucks as pve dmg dealer also about subs you won't have tree stuff early game and even if you have you invest in eloise
Plus hee tenants are dope
Also in expedition, she is the best
@@_jellybrain_ yeah u can put eloise fqv ignis and 3 carries with osis(use eloise as she will have higher attack than fqv so she can do actives)
Should try dumbing it down you use abbreviations for all the characters I literally don't know anyone by their Abv. or their pictures so adding their base name would be helpful
Hey Barry I just unlocked void campaign im wonderin what artifact I should put on my sfx?
Today i reached 3-3-2 with 5 transcended only being vip 7 (early stage)... planning is key and being ready to adapt when time is right!
Which ones you have?
LOL Oops I think I fooded my onkirimaru now I'm going to have to look. I've got Gustin currently instead of Jahra in the second house and a tix in the 3rd though. I do need more dark food to make Carrie work though u-u I'm finding it stupidly hard to russle up dark food unless I food like some of the better heroes (more carries, drakes, elena) to get Carrie up there. Though I'm also trying to use Celestial Island to get some puppet fodder. With my current crazy team I've managed to make it to 58-7 of Campaign which I think isn't terrible. XD
Barry please i need suggest for my team im on level 100 rn and my e5 is holmes what should i do next?
optimal is just getting Eloise and 1 single normal crown.
Fun? Just do whatever you want. Build 1 E5 at a time. Make sure to get as much stellar shards as you can.
My main team consist of 2 rogans, 1 drake, 1 SFX, 1 Vesa and 1 Scarlett Quenn. should i change this up? i have a plendid crown, 2 splendid demon bells, 1 splendid melodic and 1 splendid AMB. What should i change?
nice ty for the updateing on this matter
Hello, is SAHY core better in PVE compared to Aylamak core in a 6 trans SSM team?
So I built a splendid melodic strings but who is supposed to be using it?
Important question sir barry and other guys, i have this rookie hero selection box. what should i choose between cthugha, garuda(i already have 6star), unimax and last horus? kindly help ty
Just focus garuda
So I've already built FQV as first trans.. Does this mean regressing?
me personally, i would keep your vesa until you got a 2nd trans then replace vesa for aspen and 2nd trans should be halora
This is one of the most misinformed videos that I have ever seen. To start, the melon chests should be used for LFA's active, not HHA's second passive. The reason why you build FQV as your first transcendence hero is that you do not need to invest any sublimation into her. She does not need to be a homeowner to be good, unlike HHA. Also, the spiritual essence belongs in Eloise, not Aylamak. Also, precision is almost not found on any heroes in early game pve. And anyways, Eloise removes precision with her second passive. The only place where removing precision matters is SL, and HHA is used in the Fortress SL. And anyways, Eloise destroys SL 23. Also, Do. Not. Regress. Vesa. To. Build. HHA.
I already have cleared campaign and tower, seal land is missing 1 to get to 20th floor, rest are done..
Only got Eloise V4 + her tenants
Do not have transcendance hero yet, missing 700k..
So in my case who do i go for...?
Is aspen the best trance hero?
So my account is built around SFX. I also have SSM, LF, GQV and SQH. Should I be doing a big account overhaul making LFA and SQH my primaries, and llook at swapping out my SFX and FQV for something like PDE and SWJ?
yes
I've SFX,SQH and LFA.. Who should i build as my next transendence hero!?
Switch SFX for PDE for optimal, maybe go SWJ main next if you have 4 trans
Gustin can remove aspen controls easily
right now im lvl 200 with a SSM and LFA, should i build SWJ for mockman and also crowd contol for void campaign or should I build a PDE for defence
Jahrah is the 🐐 in void campaig
Going LFA --> SQH --> Elena --> Jahra (swap jahra to be main householder for campaign push) feels really good.
Works amazing since Jahra uses SQH and Elena as well for tenants.
My main rn is SSM if i had LFA as main i would have swapped SSM for PDE
Have you tried this yourself Barry?
Seems like a bad idea to me.
I still think SFX is the best 1st hero.
I started a month before your F2P and getting close to 6th Trans Pure F2P using SFX as carry hero. I'd say that is pretty optimal!
Hey Barry, what's the easy person to get copy's for that I can make e5? Because I wanna start a second account for fun and see how fast I can get void
Garuda
Hey Barry, I transitioned yesterday from SFX HO with Lfa/sqh to Lfa HO with sqh/pde, fully sublimed, 4 mil atk. If i'm very honest I am quite disappointed by Lfa compared to Sfx and I am doubting if this actually is the optimal route. It would be amazing if you look into this and determine what the meta route actually is. Sfx brought so much progress where lfa is not doing better in every gamemode. Let me know if you want to have a chat about this. Cheers
Seems like major skill issue tbh. This route has been tested thoroughly with amazing results and it's far more optimal than going with sfx
I have 6,5 atk full sublimed LFA with perfect tenants. I'm pretty disappointed too. I feel like he can do nothing, really. Pretty boring. Only thing I can use him for is trying to push in Aspen Dungeon, which is decent I guess. I suppose I lack a dedicated star expedition team to make him shine though.
@@slowmo3731"skill issue" Mofo alert
@@slowmo3731you can be right, but from what I have seen past two days I am just in doubt with Barry his advice. If I compare my former sfx team with my current lfa team, lfa is struggling to get the same results in most pve modes and pvp modes. I am however interested in the tests you mention, where can I find those?
I have 5 month of playing and 2 million away of first transdends is it good ? F2p
And i only get steal shard and bave v4
I am using Eloise as main and have enough trans Mat for first trans hero. Why not build lfa straight to unlock void campaign instead of vesa or hha?
Cause you can unlock void campaign with any transcendence hero😂 build vesa and focus on Eloise until 2nd or 3rd transcendence and switch to lofa or ssm
@@theonlyduckling6646 that is my question, since ultimately we wanna replace Eloise with LFA, why not do it now? Is it because LFA as first void hero cannot progress as much in most game modes compare to Eloise paired with trans Vesa? Currently Eloise is V4 and at stage before void campaign
@@gookarhwee5721lfa is not a buff trans for u and he cant do anything at all without second trans
@@giga..101 I see, will do, thanks!
I already built Eloise and FQV but now I am considering my second transcendence hero. What do you thing guys to build HHA instead of MFF?
basically this is the path I take and its kinda hard ahahah maybe after a year I can build this hahaha
I tried the Eloise path and after clearing campaign, death 100, and tower that's all she's good for. Don't build anything else with your 1st transcendence, just stick with the old school SFX/Ignis/Drake build. You'll be able to accomplish far more.
SFX is the literally the worst damage dealer in the game when it comes to Void Campaign and the if you want progress, that's where your main focus should be.
She really isn’t I have a friend who’s made it to 2-5-5 with a xia and I run a mockman and I’m at the same lv as him
@@nathancecka1098 how much transcendance (hero does he have apart the puppet if he uses one) ? Im running SFX LFA and I cant get past 1-4-4
Just no😂
@@amiralcalamar8957 6 I believe
What website is this????????
I literally unlocked void campaign with v3 eloise, e1 holmes, e1 tix and 9 star waldek…. Noew i need 2m more till my first trans😂
wait whaaat i cant get void campain and I have v4 eloise e5 tix e5 carrie 9 star waldeck 9 star ignis and e5 garuda
what artifacts do u have on ur heroes
@@broccobroccoli14 glittery golden crown on eloise, glittery demon bell on holmes, radiant melodic strings on tix and thats it, sui**** 10 star ignis, and 9 star waldek and 5 star carry, thats it
How are you guys levelling up so fking fast?? I already have 4 E5's and im still only level 124, wtf??
I'm building young Holmes on a fresh account because I have zero eloise.
Is this not ok?
Do a new trans build order please
"New"
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Still fqv imo
Not 🥇
@BartLinderyou’re right! Nice work 👍🏼
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This is definitely not new account friendly, too many technical jargons (when you're experienced unlike new players you use words we don't know), many of the things you said are barely understood unless you've been playing the game for a year or 6-7 months.