Great video and it really helped me understand some things about derailleurs and shifters! For sure I’m gonna see that again when I’m going to buy a new rd!
Best video till date, It is unfortunate that we don't get to buy any of your components in India. Otherwise we only get Shimano components here. Why don't your guys supply components to India? Post a crash, I recently replaced my microshift derailers (FD, and RD both) to shimano just because we don't have any supplier of microshift in India, otherwise I personally felt that microshift offers great neck to neck competition in terms of quality and economy to shimano and wish we had a supply 😥
@@microSHIFTTECH But that would imply that you changed the pull ratio for some design reason - if so, I haven't seen the reason published or explained on UA-cam. In general, I think standards change too much, so whenever you move away from a standard, you should have a good reason.
I am looking at the M26 derailleur for my 7 speed bike. the short cage or the long cage meets the requirements in all respects with the differnce being that the short cage capacity is right on at 39T which is what i have on my bike. the long cage version has more capacity coming in at 45T. which should i choose in this case or will both work equally well? thanks jw
They will both work. My preference is to run the shortest cage you can get away with, because it will ride a little higher and have better chain security.
its not a microshift product but I run a Shimano Deore Xt M739 from 1998 on my modern 1x9 11x42 microshift cassette, I have used an extension from aliexpress to bring my deore down a few CMs
Hi Guys! It was excellent and extremely helpful explanation of how to choose microshift derailleurs versus shimano ones. And you are doing a great job with this technical movies. Thanks a million for the help! :)
Thanks, all good, but I have an old friction shifter . How does this impact point 4? Ignore it as it's old school push pull shifter? I have a 1968 Sears Free Spirit road 10 speed that I'm trying to renovate. The drailler does not want to shift in all gears - too old.
The only compatibility issue with friction shifters is total cable pull. If the friction shifter doesn't pull enough cable, it won't be able to shift to all the gears. We make two sizes of bar end shifter for this reason -- wide range MTB derailleurs need a lot more cable pull to get up and down the gears.
Yes I do like these videos. Yes it was complicated. So you're saying the m26 would not work with a 9 speed chain I have biopace 50/40 paired 11 x 32 cassette paired with a 8 speed m26 Rd in friction mode. Will be going to 9 speed 11 x 32
Yeah most are more or less compatible, but sometimes there's a mitigating factor that gets in the way. Our 7/8 speed rear derailleurs have a wider cage, and there's a small chance that a narrower 9 speed chain can get wedged between the pulley and the cage, so we say they are not compatible.
I just got a gravel bike with 10 speed GRX400 components…(46-30 and 10-34). I want to do a 1X system with 18-20 gear inches on the bottom and 80 or so on top. I’d like to retain the shifters so as to not change out the brakes. I can use any crankset that gives me a smaller chainring and hope to keep the best chain line possible. What Microsoft cassette/derailleur combo would work best?
Sorry for the late reply! You could try a Sword front derailleur, but it only has a slightly wider range than GRX. If it was me, I would just try a crank with a smaller chainring combo on your current setup and see if you can get it to work.
Regarding compatibility: Are there any difference between R9 and R10? For Shimano the 8-10 sp. rear derailleurs move the same (the shifter determine how much).
I have a 1x10 gravel bike, 40T in the front, and a ADVENT X H-SERIES 10 SPEED CASSETTE 11-48 in the back. I feel theres a huge gap sometimes in between the gears. What could i do to improve the riding?
If you want smaller gaps between the gears, you'll either need a narrower cassette range, more speeds, or both. The best way to do that without changing the drivetrain would be to try a new cassette. Advent X will work as a "B" fit with an 11-42 cassette, and that will have gears that are slightly closer together.
i have a Scott aspect 950, whit 2x9 Shimano group, can put a 9 speed "CS-H093 11-46T" whit his respective shifter and delailleur ?? to make a 2x9 microshift/shimano hybrid??
Hello. Can you help please I have 9 speed cassette with shimano M 430 mech. I cannot find M430 anywhere what other shimano dirailia could I use. M4000? As example Many thanks T
Hi I have a Shimano m - 615 rear derailleur I would like to use it as a 8 speed. Do you make a shifter with the same cable pull ratio. Thanks in advance.
You could try using an Acolyte shifter (SL-M6185-R) -- the pull ratios are pretty similar. It would definitely be a "B" fit, so the adjustment window would be very precise, but it could possibly work depending on how the rest of your bike is set up.
Hi, good vid! Iam search solution for my transmisión, I have cassette 11-46t Combined with 42t crown. Is there a rear derailleur that can cover these ranges? I understand that it's really a long way ahead, I'm creating a bit of an experimental gravel project... Thank you very much in advance for your reply
I'm not 100% sure I understand, but I think you're asking if there's a system that will work with an 11-46t cassette and a 42t chainring. You should check out our Sword gravel group!
XLE Xpress Shifter 1×11 + XLE 11 RD-M665M+ Cassete Microshift XLE 11 CS-H113 11-46T 11 Vel - can i ride a 1x11 single mountain bike with this configuration ? or what would be the right one ?
Generally that doesn't work. A 7 speed chain is much wider than an 11 speed chain. The 11 speed rear derailleur has a cage that's designed to manage that narrower chain, so using a 7 speed chain can cause problems.
Yes, I like these kinds of videos. It's something I didn't rly understand, but now it all makes sense. I'm on 3x9 spd shimano with exactly the same casette/chainring sizes as in the example. On 26" MTB it's almost perfect. Would like to go 1x9-12 someday and just leave the old stuff on there.
After some research, I am replacing M310 with M592 and to my understanding everything should work. I am only concered with M592 long cage hitting the ground on 20 wheels. Pull ratio should be the same and 8 speed vs 9 speed should not create a problem with compatibility
Just the way the derailleur mounts. Most bikes have a derailleur hanger so you can mount the derailleur directly to that. Some don't so you need a hook on the derailleur that can be fit under the axle nut on the rear wheel.
Thank you for this video. Strate to the point and very informative. I learned a lot about stuff I didn't know I was missing. I was about to buy a replacement for my bike and I'm glad I watched this first it helped a lot!
This video clearly, helped me understand how to determine the right part my bike needs for proper performance. Learning to understand the mechanism function on ones bike is very valuable to me. Thank you so very. JR
Not really. You just have to make sure your shifter pulls enough total cable to get to all the gears on your rear derailleur. If you have a wide range cassette, I would look at one of our mountain bike bar end shifters because they have a bigger radius and pull a lot more cable.
Thank you for this tech video. Concise, to the point, no distracting music - this is on point. Please put more of these out. Thanks again.
I really like that this guy got straight into it, no BS lead up. Just the information we need.
Very clear, simple, and well explained with appropriate visuals! Thanks!!
Guys, your customer service is on point!
Another great video. Thank you for no long introduction and no music.
This video was super helpful brother. I loved the chalk board illustration !
Thank you
Correct answer is color. If rest of the bike has polished components, you cant put black derailleur on it.
Hard to argue with that approach.
Great video and it really helped me understand some things about derailleurs and shifters! For sure I’m gonna see that again when I’m going to buy a new rd!
Best video till date, It is unfortunate that we don't get to buy any of your components in India. Otherwise we only get Shimano components here. Why don't your guys supply components to India?
Post a crash, I recently replaced my microshift derailers (FD, and RD both) to shimano just because we don't have any supplier of microshift in India, otherwise I personally felt that microshift offers great neck to neck competition in terms of quality and economy to shimano and wish we had a supply 😥
It's complicated, but we're working on it!
Made sense though why didn’t you just go with the Shimano pull ratio for your Advent products too which would have kept things simpler?
We're hoping Shimano changes their pull ratio to be Advent compatible.
@@microSHIFTTECH But that would imply that you changed the pull ratio for some design reason - if so, I haven't seen the reason published or explained on UA-cam. In general, I think standards change too much, so whenever you move away from a standard, you should have a good reason.
I am looking at the M26 derailleur for my 7 speed bike. the short cage or the long cage meets the requirements in all respects with the differnce being that the short cage capacity is right on at 39T which is what i have on my bike. the long cage version has more capacity coming in at 45T. which should i choose in this case or will both work equally well? thanks jw
They will both work. My preference is to run the shortest cage you can get away with, because it will ride a little higher and have better chain security.
Definitely like all your videos. I’m for all the tech info I can get. I have Advent-X on my Poseidon Gravel bike. Love it. Thanks.
its not a microshift product but I run a Shimano Deore Xt M739 from 1998 on my modern 1x9 11x42 microshift cassette, I have used an extension from aliexpress to bring my deore down a few CMs
Hi Guys!
It was excellent and extremely helpful explanation of how to choose microshift derailleurs versus shimano ones. And you are doing a great job with this technical movies. Thanks a million for the help! :)
Cool video, I wish something like this was available 5 years ago when I first started....
I'm rebuilding a 2006 khs alite 3000 for a spare bike and this video answered all my questions ! Thank you
Clear, well done derailleur tutorial!
Love this! It needed to be exactly what you made
Very good, so good in fact I’ll be buying Microshift
Thanks, all good, but I have an old friction shifter . How does this impact point 4? Ignore it as it's old school push pull shifter? I have a 1968 Sears Free Spirit road 10 speed that I'm trying to renovate. The drailler does not want to shift in all gears - too old.
The only compatibility issue with friction shifters is total cable pull. If the friction shifter doesn't pull enough cable, it won't be able to shift to all the gears. We make two sizes of bar end shifter for this reason -- wide range MTB derailleurs need a lot more cable pull to get up and down the gears.
Yes I do like these videos. Yes it was complicated.
So you're saying the m26 would not work with a 9 speed chain
I have biopace 50/40 paired 11 x 32 cassette paired with a 8 speed m26 Rd in friction mode.
Will be going to 9 speed 11 x 32
It would probably be OK, but it's technically out of spec.
Hold on shouldn't a 9 speed derailleur usually just about work on 7 speeds? Maybe needs longer L/H bolts but that should be it?
Yeah most are more or less compatible, but sometimes there's a mitigating factor that gets in the way. Our 7/8 speed rear derailleurs have a wider cage, and there's a small chance that a narrower 9 speed chain can get wedged between the pulley and the cage, so we say they are not compatible.
I just got a gravel bike with 10 speed GRX400 components…(46-30 and 10-34). I want to do a 1X system with 18-20 gear inches on the bottom and 80 or so on top. I’d like to retain the shifters so as to not change out the brakes. I can use any crankset that gives me a smaller chainring and hope to keep the best chain line possible. What Microsoft cassette/derailleur combo would work best?
Sorry for the late reply! You could try a Sword front derailleur, but it only has a slightly wider range than GRX. If it was me, I would just try a crank with a smaller chainring combo on your current setup and see if you can get it to work.
Regarding compatibility:
Are there any difference between R9 and R10?
For Shimano the 8-10 sp. rear derailleurs move the same (the shifter determine how much).
R9 and R10 are Shimano compatible, and follow the same standard you're describing. So yes, R9 and R10 use the same cable pull.
I have a 1x10 gravel bike, 40T in the front, and a ADVENT X H-SERIES 10 SPEED CASSETTE 11-48 in the back. I feel theres a huge gap sometimes in between the gears. What could i do to improve the riding?
If you want smaller gaps between the gears, you'll either need a narrower cassette range, more speeds, or both. The best way to do that without changing the drivetrain would be to try a new cassette. Advent X will work as a "B" fit with an 11-42 cassette, and that will have gears that are slightly closer together.
i have a Scott aspect 950, whit 2x9 Shimano group, can put a 9 speed "CS-H093 11-46T" whit his respective shifter and delailleur ?? to make a 2x9 microshift/shimano hybrid??
No, the Shimano rear derailleur will not work with a 46T max cog. You'll need to use a rear derailleur made for a 46T max cog.
This is insanely helpful. Thank you
Hello. Can you help please I have 9 speed cassette with shimano M 430 mech. I cannot find M430 anywhere what other shimano dirailia could I use. M4000? As example
Many thanks
T
You could use our Mezzo M36 rear derailleur.
My gravel bike 11-36 cogs has a microshift mezzo M36 RD and is compatible with 8 speed shimano claris shifter...
Yeah for sure, the cable pull on Shimano compatible 7-8-9 speed stuff is the same for drop bar and flat bar shifters.
excellent !!!! crystal clear.....!! thank you
Hi I have a Shimano m - 615 rear derailleur I would like to use it as a 8 speed. Do you make a shifter with the same cable pull ratio. Thanks in advance.
You could try using an Acolyte shifter (SL-M6185-R) -- the pull ratios are pretty similar. It would definitely be a "B" fit, so the adjustment window would be very precise, but it could possibly work depending on how the rest of your bike is set up.
Great video! Thank you
Question about shifters pull ratio. If you buy wireless shifter, that ratio isn't important?
I think you just answered your own question!
Hi, good vid! Iam search solution for my transmisión, I have cassette 11-46t Combined with 42t crown. Is there a rear derailleur that can cover these ranges? I understand that it's really a long way ahead, I'm creating a bit of an experimental gravel project... Thank you very much in advance for your reply
I have 8 speeds And road handles
I'm not 100% sure I understand, but I think you're asking if there's a system that will work with an 11-46t cassette and a 42t chainring. You should check out our Sword gravel group!
XLE Xpress Shifter 1×11 + XLE 11 RD-M665M+ Cassete Microshift XLE 11 CS-H113 11-46T 11 Vel - can i ride a 1x11 single mountain bike with this configuration ? or what would be the right one ?
Yes, that will work just fine!
@@microSHIFTTECH Thank you!
Can you use an 11 speed rd with a 7 speed cassette? Please note that this set up has future cassette speed upgrades in mind.
Generally that doesn't work. A 7 speed chain is much wider than an 11 speed chain. The 11 speed rear derailleur has a cage that's designed to manage that narrower chain, so using a 7 speed chain can cause problems.
Yes, I like these kinds of videos. It's something I didn't rly understand, but now it all makes sense. I'm on 3x9 spd shimano with exactly the same casette/chainring sizes as in the example. On 26" MTB it's almost perfect. Would like to go 1x9-12 someday and just leave the old stuff on there.
Why the marvo lt m46 isnt in this video? I order one of those to replace a shimano 9 speed
M36 and M46 have the same compatibility, so we left it off. Perhaps a mistake!
Thank you microshift
After some research, I am replacing M310 with M592 and to my understanding everything should work. I am only concered with M592 long cage hitting the ground on 20 wheels. Pull ratio should be the same and 8 speed vs 9 speed should not create a problem with compatibility
what is difference in direct mount or hook mounted?
Just the way the derailleur mounts. Most bikes have a derailleur hanger so you can mount the derailleur directly to that. Some don't so you need a hook on the derailleur that can be fit under the axle nut on the rear wheel.
Thank you for this video. Strate to the point and very informative. I learned a lot about stuff I didn't know I was missing. I was about to buy a replacement for my bike and I'm glad I watched this first it helped a lot!
Where i can buy your product in Philippines?
Our distributor there is YKKBikes.
This video clearly, helped me understand how to determine the right part my bike needs for proper performance. Learning to understand the mechanism function on ones bike is very valuable to me. Thank you so very. JR
Awesome!
This is a weel done and informative video. Thanks for making it.
Watch today , Fix tomorrow 👌 thanks
will the shifter compatability affect decision making process if I'm planning on switching to a friction shifter?
Not really. You just have to make sure your shifter pulls enough total cable to get to all the gears on your rear derailleur. If you have a wide range cassette, I would look at one of our mountain bike bar end shifters because they have a bigger radius and pull a lot more cable.
I learned a lot, thanks
Excellent work! Thanks
I love the explanation of cassette capacity at 0:58 in the video
Thank you sir! The filming is top notch too ;)
great video for beginner like me
Great video, thanks!
Thank you for the information
It helped thank you
Very helpful
great content
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