Replacing a carb on a Shindaiwa with a cheap overseas one.
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I finally decide to replace the carb on this Shindaiwa trimmer with a cheap online carb but its not a directly replacement. So is it worth buying a cheap replacement carb? Short answer is YES. - Авто та транспорт
Super helpful. I used to just bring these things in for service but am a lot more comfortable trying these repairs now. Thanks man!!
Thank you Phil Del Guidice for the comment I appreciate it and you're welcome.
Great basic video, which is all I needed. Cost of replacing a carby vs the time and effort to rebuild one is a no brainer!!
I know right. thank you Bob Thebuilder
I would what you did. I have had pretty good luck with those Chinese replacement carbs I have used them on 2 cycle and 4 cycle engines with success. Marry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
Thank you nashguy207 for the comment and Happy Christmas too.
We have a few of those Shindawia trimmers at my work along with some STIHLS. I work as a groundskeeper at the golf course.
Nice. Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
I always work on my own things. Two stroke can sometimes be challenging to fix. 30 or 40 years that I've been working on my own stuff or friends and family and neighbors I don't remember ever meeting to buy a new carburetor. I'm normally able to rebuild one with a kit that I can pick up online. I always clean every single passage in any carburetor. Then once I'm satisfied with that it goes into the parts cleaner and soaks for an undetermined time. Normally it's when I remember that I put the carburetor in the cleaner and when I remember I take it out and clean everything one more time before putting it together. I definitely want to try and ultrasonic cleaner. A lot of UA-camrs who work on small engine all swear by ultrasonic cleaners. The only thing that has stopped me to this point from getting one is that I cannot agree with myself on what size I really need. A small one would work perfect for carburetors and other small parts but I would love to be able to put other things in there.
Ever since I discovered your channel 2 weeks ago I really enjoy watching your videos. Like I had said in a previous message is that I love watching what other people do so I can expand my knowledge. And of course when it's a really good idea I steal it for myself and tell everyone I thought of that. -) as always I look forward to watching your next video. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and I always make sure to hit the like button and of course I am subscribed to your channel.
thank you David Frank, I appreciate it.
Shindawa is good equipment , I love working on them , you do good work 👍👍👍👍👍.
thanks and I feel the same way
I just swapped out the whole top throttle mechanism from the old carb to the new carb so the throttle cable would fit and work. The old throttle assembly was slightly bigger than the new but a little find sanding worked like a charm.
Haha I did that same thing with my last carb for my t230x blue
But next carb (which is now cause that carb has crapped out already) I think I’ll remove that lil gizmo because the tolerance of the 2 throttle valves seems different enough that it might matter and or affect performance
Although I am prone to trying to fix things first, I have found that 2 cycle carbs are a nightmare and usaully best just replacing!
They are not like working on an old Briggs & Stratton carb!
Very true. Replacement is the best option.
This is 100% correct - I'm rather handy but not a small engine mechanic. I've spent hours upon hours messing with various carbs on my small equipment. At the end of the day I can emphatically say the $13 carb replacement on ebay is your best bet not only in cost, but time saved (the bigger cost in my mind).
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I had an echo trimmer that I was working on that seemed to have an issue on start up, it would bog, struggle to stay running, and then eventually die after startup. I first took apart the old carb, cleaned, rebuilt it, and tuned but the issue still remained. I then replaced it with a cheap carb kit and that fixed the issue.
wow nice fix. sometimes replacing it just makes sense. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
Another great video ! Thank you !
Thank you Mendelivium
I used to rebuild two cycle carbs back before the inexpensive replacements became available but some problems like worn throttle shaft bushings can’t be fixed by rebuilding. Nowadays if it’s not just rotted fuel lines I’ll replace the carb, although I don’t think I’ve ever received a cheap replacement that fit right up out of the box. I almost always have to swap the cable anchor or the choke lever or some other part from the old one to make it fit, but it’s usually not a big deal. Had very good results with those cheap replacement carbs, worth the effort to get them to fit IMO.
So far so good for me too.
Have cleaned carbs in the past, with mixed results about 50 % success. Last two repairs were done by buying new carbs, 100 % success. I would say some brands have what appear to be exact duplicates so it is easier to replace, like Echo products. Since the carbs are quite inexpensive makes sense to replace with new. A pro told me he only buys carbs when he repairs mostly because it is more expensive to clean and rebuild than to replace with a new carb. I like that kind of thinking.
That's a very good point. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I have 4 Shindaiwa units. 3 are T230 and one is a T230x. Trimmer, edger blower, broom. All purchased around 1998 or 99. One is a power broom that I bought used from a rental store, so you know it had a rough life. In the 20 years I’ve owned them other than new trimmer line heads for the trimmer I’ve pretty much done almost nothing to them, other than add fuel. I think around the 15 year mark they got new spark plugs 😆. So now in 2020 all of them are giving me trouble. Oddly enough last year was the first year I started using expensive premix gas from a bottle... I’m going to order a new carb kit from China via eBay. Another issue I’m seeing. The cork gasket in the fuel cap is failing on all of them at same time, they all leak like crazy now. I’ve ordered new gas caps, waiting on ups truck for those. I’m wondering if I should also replace the pickup in the tank? Since I can order all that as a kit on eBay for about $13 I’m going to do so. The kit I saw includes new carb. Fuel, vent and return lines. As well as rubber bulkhead grommet for tank. Plus a new spark plug, 2 gaskets and 2 extra primer bulbs. For $13! Are you kidding me? 😆
Very affordable. Thanks for sharing your experience and time I appreciate it
I did the same thing with a leaf blower, i bought it second hand and used it for about 2 years before it stopped working. I ordered a Chinese carb for about 10 bucks, small adjustment to the mixture screw and it hasn't stopped since.
Great video mate
Thank you Tims for the comment I appreciate it
Was wondering about the Hole in Carburetor myself glad you Addressed that I got same issue no Hole in new Carb ✌️🇺🇸✌️
thanks!
I’ve had good luck buying aftermarket carbs. I prefer to rebuild them. But when needed, I always replace with an overseas carb from eBay primarily because of the price. It normally comes with the additional parts too like filters and spark plugs. Never had problems with those extra parts.
You and me both
@@HomeGaragechannel Make that 3!
I always try to repair/clean first. I have had pretty good luck with most replacement carbs.
Thanks for the comment Tim S for the comment I appreciate it
I own a 32 year old Shindaiwa T20 which has lasted through four different residences. It has only needed air filters, gas pickup tubes and plugs to keep running in all those years. Only recently has the carb created running problems. Finding a direct replacement Walbro was impossible and carb kits never solved the issue. A retrofit with a modified manifold and a used Echo carb has kept it running. I suspect it is “overcarbed” and may try an alternative. I purchased an Echo PAS-2620 last year as an upgrade, although powerful and with available attachments, it is not as light and useable as the T20 for string trimming. The Shindawia in comparison is tiny with a lightweight aluminum shaft and ridiculous amount of high rpm power remains a pleasure to use. Bigger, not always better. Just need to hunt down a better carb to match it.
Yes i feel your pain. Good luck finding one.
Been doing this for quite a while and I agree that changing the carb is the way to go. Taking a trimmer to a repair shop is a losing proposition. They’ll probably charge way too much and the non- OEM carbs for the most part work just fine. If anyone has a small amount of mechanical ability and a few generic tools it shouldn’t be an issue to DIY. Good video! Thanks!
thank you Mark Plautz.
I have use Chinese carburators on Yamaha ATVs, Husqvarna chainsaws, many assorted trimmers, many Briggs mowers and even my 26hp Intek Briggs. Never had a issue.
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
I bought an after market carb. just like that one you have and it has the same problem. I use a slim wire that comes with the bread bag and i twisted it tight and it seems to me that might work but now i need get a new pull rope because the old one is to short. I will be doing it tomorrow. Let's hope it works...
excellent hopefully it works out for you.
I've replaced several 2 and 4 stroke carbs with Chinese aftermarkets and I have no complaints other than sometimes the
throttle linkage is slightly different on some of them like the one you installed..
Thank you Crazy Uncle Duke for the comment I appreciate it
As it was only a couple of quid difference to but the service bits or a new carb, I bought the new carb. One minor fettle and all is working. I had much more of a problem with a vacuum cleaner motor!
Nice. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I have replaced OEM carbs with Chinese ones and they worked fine even though they might not be an exact replacement.
That's becoming a reality so I guess that's what we have to do. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I have a S270 with original Carb, why not just rebuild it?
Chinese carburetors for me never have a problem with them 2 stroke 4 stroke I paid as little as 8 dollars for one for a lawnmower 3 years ago still going strong and 15 dollar one on my trimmer for 5 year's now still going and put one on my blower this month it's working great now I can go on and on. I buy my carburetors and fuel line, filters off Amazon .
Thank you Salvador 1707 for the comment I appreciate it
Cool fix :)
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Well as of me being in this business and small engines for 15 years I would probably fix it myself that's an easy fix and yes them air holes serve it has your own little purposes to bring the fuel up but if you buy a carburetor aftermarket that is not the same as the other one usually most of the time all you have to do is change the throttle positioning bracket on those some of the toilets have that
Just replaced the carb in a Stihl FS55 with one I bought off of Amazon. I'm not terribly handy but was able to swap it successfully. I'm still trying to dial in the tuning though.
yes the tuning can be very tricky.
Could also be a leak at the base of the cylinder. Check by spraying some good quality carb stray around the base to see if the RPM's change.
Ah yes you've had some experience with this problem . Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
@@alext8828 it would probably rev up temporarily since it would be introducing a small amount of new highly combustible fule into the system if theres a leak thus changing the mixture more rich. You do this same philosophy to check for vacuum leaks on cars.
I would try changing out the carb. Any shop would charge you more in a diagnostic charge than a cheap Chinese carb (plus tax and shipping) will set you back. On equipment over 5 years old and not of true commercial grade, the shop cost plus parts will oftentimes be higher than the value of the equipment in good working order, which makes the ability to do your own work (along with a supply of cheap yet decent quality aftermarket parts) so invaluable. It may also be true that cheap, Chinese “knock off” versions of the OEM brand cards might be inferior, but because of their much lower price, they have kept many pieces of equipment in service and out of the landfills, and saved their operators a ton of cash!
you are absolutely right Brian Andrews.
Adjust and clean carb if that doesn’t work replace it with comparable carb by looking up part number(s)
That's a very good process to get this fixed. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I have an old ryobi for about 20 years, the first few years I was taking the carb apart and cleaning it, but over the past 10 years I've just bought a chinese carb on amazon 4 times now. So it's about every other season or so when when it starts acting ignorant I swap on another $12 complete carb. They seem to be ok, but always need alot of messing with the H and L screws throughout as the season goes on.
I just bought a straight shaft $400 Husquavarna to finally replace it the other day, but I haven't used it yet. I'm hoping it will be a bit higher quality and I'm going to use nothing but TruFuel in it from day one to hopefully eliminate alot of the carb issues??
you make a good point, good luck with that Husqvarna, I'm sure it will last you for awhile.
Taking it to a shop is cost prohibitive. I’ve rebuilt them before, but the chineseum carbs sometimes are cheaper than a kit.
That old carb could possibly be adjusted with a small “D” tool.
Anyway, I’ve had pretty good luck with the replacement carbs.
Merry Christmas
Thank you Jim S for your comment and Merry Christmas too.
Never had that problem after a little screw twisting or cable adjusting. BUT if I needed another carb I'd get one.Tried that with the Poulan and it was still a no fix but that was areal deal anyway. Blessings!
thank you Lewie McNeely
@@HomeGaragechannel U 2!
All you have to do is change the throttle body over to the new carburetor just delet with the same issue a few weeks ago worked fine
Yes you are correct. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
@@HomeGaragechannel could you do a follow up video on changing the throttle body over to the new carburetor?
Did you try adjusting the old carb? In the center of the throttle lever is a small slotted adjustment needle that can be adjusted using a small slotted screwdriver out of an eyeglass kit. If you pause at 1:50 you can see the slot on the adjustment needle of the new carb.
No I didn't try. Wanted to try buying a replacement one instead.
Always soak carb in CLR or carb cleaner, or replace it with a new one 👌👍, Shindawa is worth the time and the money.
absolutely
Love your stuff, I have a stihl 034AV chain saw I replace the clutch and clutch drum, and the head gasket but it won start because the compression is too high, but I don't think it has a decompression valve on it so what can I do to lower the compression?
do you have a pressure reading from a compression tester?If want to lower the compression, get a thicker gasket.
Yeah I got a pressure tester and thanks I w try the thicker gasket
how did you get the throttle cable to work in that bigger hole. I bought the same replacement carburetor for mine.
later on off camera, I put something to sleeve it to a smaller size. I don't recall if it was a piece of metal pipe or plastic.
I unscrewed the trottle clip (black bit on top) and switched them for the the old one. U can swap the primer part too they both fit the new ones from amazon
thank you for letting me know
My question is: why would you not clean all the oil and debris off the engine while you have the cover off? also why not clean the outside of the carb before taking it apart and risking getting debris inside.
I used to shout the same thing when watching other YT personalities not clean it. i do it now but on the older videos i didn't. in the end it didn't make a difference in starting it. im considering a whole serious of videos that you may be interested in. it shows me cleaning all the equipment before i do the repair video. what's your opinion about that?
@@HomeGaragechannelpersonally, I'm not against wipeing everything down, but, for the purpose of keeping videos quick and on point i prefer that you just explain the topic of the video instead of making it long winded with lots of cleaning.
i have a sears craftsman do you have to to get the flip choke if it had flip choke ?
I would. Otherwise you'll have to adapt a different type of choke style.
I see you are using the foam/sponge air filter, I got one because they are cheaper and replace the paper one on the t230. What do you think? A better alternative?
I like paper filters better because theres no oiling hassle like a foam one.
That's it, we gotta get you a minibike. Knowing you, you'd get a classic Honda project.
Lol.. yes I would get a Honda.
I would always try to fix it first. If it's broke you won't make it any worse by taking a look. If it goes wrong get the cheap car because a workshop will want to fit oe parts and have a minimum service charge.
thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Thanks for the video. I have a Shindaiwa 230PHs which has worked fine for over 10 years but stopped last week - couldn't start it. I've replaced the air filter (which was in a bad state). It now starts fine but I noticed an occasional spark coming out of the exhaust . Any thoughts what might cause that? I was going to take it in somewhere but would like to try to correct it myself having seen your video.
Sure, I'm going to guess that the spark arrestor screen has never been serviced. check it and make sure it's not clogged or damaged, letting sparks come out of the muffler
@@HomeGaragechannel Thanks - looks easier than I was expecting - I just need to get a blow torch now!
My experience with various small engine carbs, are that they can only be rebuilt so many times(circumstances vary on usage and maintenance) before they need to be replaced. These conditions are common problems on "Charb" products(my term for carburetors made in China😎). Not a science major, and hope this explanation helps, after many hours of usage at high rpm, the engine heat does cause the cast's, molecular structure to expand and loosen, sometimes causing fuel leakage even with new gaskets, flooding, and adjustments. Hope this helped someone. Best of luck, stay safe to all.
that's a very interesting idea. ive never thought about that before. thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Thank you for the explanation. I have a Shindaiwa C344 that will no longer take full throttle without bogging/stalling. I have replaced filters (air & fuel), spark plug, checked muffler/spark arrester screen. Fuel lines appear in good condition. I only use non ethanol fuel in all my power equipment. I don't see any way to adjust the high speed mixture on the carb. Looks like only thing left to do is replace it.
@@zrexrich6118 yes you did everything right so replacing it is the last thing.
@@HomeGaragechannel Thought I'd better follow up to let others know...I replaced the carb, no change. The problem ended up being a plugged gas cap vent! Unscrewed the gas cap part way and tried again. Trimmer took/maintained full throttle and power was restored. I'll be replacing the gas cap with a new one.
@@zrexrich6118 excellent work. Your persistence payed off.
So why does the thumbnail say "Do not buy a cheap carb! "
this carb looks very similar but it operates differently than the original. if it were an oem one then they would have been exactly the same
How did you overcome the bigger hole in the throttle shaft that the linkage goes through? My original one is very old and sticky and I can’t free it up..with the new one , the hole is much bigger as you noted in the video but how can I reduce the size of the hole?
you can try adding a bushing in the larger hole. It's up to you to figure out how.. you can use metal, or plastic. Or even maybe use epoxy.
Some carbs will come back with a kit put in them .Depends on the price of the carb.
very true. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
can you tell what's use for the 3rd fuel line w the mini thank on ??
the 3rd fuel line is for the tank vent.
Clean, rebuild and tune the carburetor first, replace main jet if its check valve is trashed causing flooding. If that fails replace the carb. Unfortunately not all cheap carbs work
Thank you Bill Elliott for the comment I appreciate it. Very well said this obviously isn't your first time to clean a carb.
@@HomeGaragechannel No, I have cleaned thousands of diaphragm carbs in chainsaws, trimmers, blowers, etc. I like those Shindaiwa trimmers, high quality equipment. I run one of their 4-mix trimmers. Thx for the videos
@@grifonks thank you again.
I would try fixing the carburettor myself.
That's what I would do first myself. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I always do my own work. Shop labor rates make taking to a shop cost prohibitive.
Absolutely true
Old School Shindaiwa all the way! You can still get parts! Made in Japan, not the Echo USA/Shindaiwa equipment now. Shindaiwa's old byline was (and it was true): "First to start, Last to Quit!"
Thanks for the information i appreciate it
I always try to rebuild / repair the OEM carburetors. The Chinese ones are hit and miss - some worked fine for me while some others made the machine run worse than it ran with the original one. As for sending it to a repair shop, the cost is usually prohibitive in reference to the value of the machine. I just bought a blower that was flooding and the guy took it to a shop - I found that the metering arm was bent up - I suspect the shop did this to try to sell a new carburetor (and their labor) to the unsuspecting customer - not all shops are honest!
You are absolutely correct about that
@@HomeGaragechannel Thank you!
@@scottmiller4034 no problem
Looking into changing out my carb. You didn’t show what you did to the throttle cable to make it work
sure, under the black plastic part where round metal part is, with a slot in it, under that there's a clip holding it, push the clip off, and that round metal piece comes off to reveal an opening for the cable end .
Oh yes I'm comfortable replacing a carburetor on my own once necessary after viewing your videos
thank you Ramadin Sookhoo.
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you bro for sharing your knowledge with us🙏🙏
I have an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner and a $15 gasket kit. I need to get a LF-250 that needs a new carburetor but the replacements are $75 at the low end so I'll take my chances
good luck with it
@@HomeGaragechannel it already looks like a new carburetor and all passages are clear. Just waiting for the carburetor gasket kit to ship. Shindawa LF-250 slide type carburetor
I only buy replacements if absolutely necessary, I am usually pretty good at getting these things rebuilt
excellent work
I swapped the whole throttle assembly from the old carb to match the cable
that works too.
that carb worked, and most will, tho they are a bit touchy being aftermarket.. but , be sure to get all subject matter correct.. including throttle, iwill reject otherwise.. cheers. also, add name and model and where bought if can, means more if we know what your trying to display.. thanks and good luck and GB
Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Nice
Thank you Carlos Avalos for the comment I appreciate it
I love cheap Chinese carbs and other parts, too. The work great.
I agree
I have a carb but i can't find the same one online anywhere It's a. small nikki carbuartor and The gas tank has the primer bowl And only has one fuel line Someone help me!!!
never dealt with this carb
My Parts place has all the parts to replace the bulb. They were quick to tell me that the S270 Original Carb isn't available for import to the U.S. any longer because of Emission Standard's. My Machine needs Primer Bulb, Air Filter, Fuel line, Fuel Filter and a Carb Kit. I've never rebuilt a Carb, how is it? The Shop also showed me how to tell that was my original Carb still and not been replaced, the one that's on it is the better part. Is it hard to do the Carb work yourself? Im not a super mechanic but I can manage for the most part on some projects. I just want to say I bought the Machine 2nd hand in 2002, it's cut a bunch of Grass,Brush,Trees while I've had it. I can see why ppl like Shindiawa Machine's.
Its not hard especially while watching UA-cam videos. Yes keep the original carb if possible because it's better part.
Chineseum carbs are so cheap. But, I have run into the same issues as you. If a customer’s I’d give them a choice, but guarantee on chineseum carb. Were it mine, I’d go cheap , all my lawn equipment, except the 17 yr old Murray rider, is trash picked and repaired by me.
I agree with you 100%.
You didn’t quite explain how the carb is receiving a pulse from the engine..the back of the carb looks like it doesn’t have a hole but you mentioned the throat has a pulse hole..but how does this work?
the engine pulse work the pumping diaphragm. That's the reason that diaphragm has the check valve flaps.
My Stihl FS56RC OEM carb is Zama from China. Aftermarket carbs. come from China also. What is the difference???? Price???
Own carbs can be made in China but they also make non oem replacement carbs. I couldn't tell you what the difference is other than price.
On eBay 7 to 14 bucks for rebuild kit or local shop for around 10 to 20 dollars
sounds about right
yep i would replace the carburetor and preferably a good one and mostly if i can get one a aftermarket one if it,s available or a 98% close replica of the type of it etc.
I know the knock off aren't that great, but sometimes I just need to confirm that the machine is fully functional, first, before making a huge commitment.
@@HomeGaragechannel for sure i always think of that way in terms of the following from compression and see how much the motor fights back per pull on the cord mainly.
I would work on it myself
Thank you Sean Cole for the comment I appreciate it
Plz help me I have a Craftsman Gas Blower / Vac - 200mph/24cc how do I find the carburetor that goes on it? This is what all I see on carburetor 941wa229.
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Look for a Label on the blower that gives a Model and Serial number. I'll need that to help find the corrector carb.
I have a shindaiwa hedge trimmer that starts runs for whie then it over heats and turns off .
I would consider looking at the fins on the side of the engine to make sure it's not clogged with dirt and oil.
I have rebuilt carburetors are it's not that bad
most are rebuildable but some have some problems.
Rebuild for me what I would do
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A new OEM carb,if u can get one, costs $65. I bought a carb from China for $15. I would buy one to try it out for that price.
Me too. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
replace with a new carb and make a plastic plug for the 'too large' hole and drill it to take the throttle bend-linkage
That's the best option to fix it. I appreciate your comment.
@@HomeGaragechannel or drill out the original fitting so it will take the throttle cable, and reattatch with the e clip, that way it will look more original
@@alanlake5220 that's a really good idea.
As long as you have a run of smooth go jo hand cleaner a small scrub brush a toothbrush a screwdriver and a air compressor and Luke warm water rip carb apart remembering how the diaprams lined up clean one peace at a time with that hand cleaner and water then hit it with the air compressor till it’s dried every piece repeat the reassemble and will run like brand new and yes the go jo works just as good if not better than carb cleaner ice done it a few hundred times so far and no complaints by me or other people lawnmowers trimmers air blowers I only work on shindaiwa Tanaka and echo I do not like stihls at all after giving shindaiwa a try I got rid of all my stihl products and no I am not being payed by any one company it’s personal to me shindaiwas run longer they are lighter and take more abuse than the commercial stihls I use to use but I am not liking the new shindaiwas since echo company bought them out and cheapened the shindaiwa name 😡
thank you for sharing your experience I appreciate it
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did anyone figure out how to swap the cable anchor?
So ended up just remove the C-clip that holds the anchor and using the large hole that was left
that sounds pretty tenuous. it holds? any other options?
my briggs and stratton 700 series lawn mower has a hole on the side of it what would cause it
You mean you have a hole in the block? Probably a broken rod.
@@HomeGaragechannel can it be fixed?
@@SamOverby you can fix it but it would be easier if you replaced the engine.
@@HomeGaragechannel how would you fix it?
@@SamOverby if its self propel then I would replace it with another Briggs. If it's just a push mower I would buy a cheap mower engine from Harbor freight. It's a matter of shaft sizes. Usually the self propel has a one inch shaft and the push is 7/8".
I recently bought a shindaiwa 261x at a market for $100. It ran when I was there. It started when I brought it home, then shut down about 5 minutes into using it. I haven't been able to get it to start since. I've replaced the spark plug, tried disassembling/cleaning the carburetor, and am now installing a new carburetor i paid $50 for. I'm not having any luck. I can think of a couple more things to try tomorrow morning but I've about exhausted my incredibly limited knowledge on this topic. In the off chance someone has any ideas...please help
I think you might have flooded it and that's the reason why it won't start. Take the spark plug out and let it sit for several hours. Then replace the plug and try to start it but leave the choke in the off position, while squeezing the trigger.
@@HomeGaragechannel thanks for the quick response!
Would I prime it with the bulb or no?
I'm not sure this is it. I've been fiddling with it off and on for a couple of weeks already, but will definitely give it a shot.
the primer is "NOT" pushing any fuel into the engine like a lawnmower. The purpose of the priming bulb is to remove the air from the lines and carb and replacing it with fuel so it makes it easier to start. So yes you have to press the bulb several times before starting it the way I described earlier
Theres different versions of the T230. Like T230X, C230, T230 with serial # less/above xxxxx etc..
One is T230 and also a T230 aka: S230/EPA (says on small decal).
The difference in the two is one has an EPA compliant carb & others weren't for a time. Idk age of mine but serial number is 8033xxx so its above the serial number break websites show?
It took time to learn what air filter my unit needs cause it was missing when I got it. Idiot ran it without one! There are (3) different air filters. Early models have a hollow square foam filter.
Theres a foam solid square version and last a "heavy duty" (white) paper filter with rubber around it.
Last two are interchangeable but no T230 parts lists show that nor did anyone selling them either. With no filter to go by and 9 out of 10 diagrams showing only the wrong hollow foam version for my T230 It took me a bit to learn that. I had assumed my filter case was changed out?
I googled S230/EPA together like small decal on my trimmer shows instead of T230 & found the right diagram showing (2) different carbs, filters etc...
Part sites only offer diagrams on a T230 & even Shindiawa never showed (2) different carbs. 45yrs repairing engines I never got so frustrated with manuals..lol
Excellent trimmer especially for free...
thank you Harry Ballz for the comment.
I'd clean and rebuild, then consider a new carb.
First question I answer is how old is it.
Looking things up only takes a few minutes.
Then the cost, new oem, new China special or rebuild.
Very well said. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
And what about buying rebuilding kits? Maybe there's still some of us who don't want to throw away the old carburetor as long they work fine
yes but finding the right kit can be difficult for most people. I still find it confusing sometimes.
It's usually the metering diaphragm.
most often yes.
I would rebuild the carb my self I work on a lot of different equipment so I know what I'm going
Replacing the carb with a cheapy from that company named after a rain forest is cheaper than the minimum charge at my local small engine shop. Job is easier than a DIY tire rotation on my car. So yeah, I'd try the carb. That said, with all the differences noted, I'd probably chicken out and order an OEM carb. Again, from that rain forest company, and less than the minimum charge at my local small engine shop.
you make a good point. thank you BerkeleyGang.
But basically what I'm trying to say is not all the time do you have to have them air holes it is just depends on how how much of a vacuum that the weed eater is growing I put them on chainsaws everything and these aftermarket carburetors are very very good carburetors they're basically the same carburetors just a little bit more different and the Chinese make them and they're not intact as much as we are
Rebuild projects
Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I would rebuild the carburetor
The original carb is usually best to keep if possible.
I like those weed eaters good work 👍👍👍👍👍
I like them too
Easier and much cheaper these days to replace the carburetor. That's my choice
I'll support your choice. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I would replace the carburettor if that was the culprit !
Thank you for the comment yes I would recommend replacing it too.
I think it would not be cost effective to take the trimmer into a repair shop, as there labour rate plus parts would make it too expensive a job for these small machines
You are correct. Its very expensive to have it serviced
How do i put a cone filter on that shit
you would have to make an adapter
you bought the wrong carburetor. i own North Valley Repair and have been doing small engine repair for almost 40 years. There are two aftermarket carburetors for shindaiwa that are really great carburetors. The stock carburetor from shindaiwa doesn't have a high or low adjustment screws that are easily accessible. The Chinese aftermarket carbs have a High RPM adjustment screw and the low adjustment screw is on the top where the butterfly throttle is located. Takes a very small screwdriver to adjust them. Buy the carburetors that have these adjustment screws and same yourself a lot of time and headaches.
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You can fine the Echo Shindaiwa carburetors on Ebay for around 20 that have the High and Low Adjustment screws. If you buy the OEM they cost of 40 and some places up to 60. Those carburetors are also made in China but do not have any Adjustments. It cost about 12 to 15 for a rebuild carb kit plus half hour of your time to see if it works, which I've found they don't always work. Best thing I've found is to replace the carburetor with the adjustable carbs and then you're done
Either rebuild the carburetor or replace it
thank you for the comment
I would rebuilt
thank you