Passing 1%ers & MC's
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- How do you pass 1%ers and outlaws on the highway, while respecting MC Protocol. Most of the time 1#er MCs riding in the pack are moving so fast and in such tight order that you may never even be presented with an opportunity to pass them. And in general passing 1%ers while riding in your MC's pack is just not a good idea. But there are some instances where you may be in a situation where you have to pass a 1%er MC. IF so you will find that MC protocol does offer a solution that can get you safely past without violating, or being disrespectful. Black Dragon explores this very touch subject.
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Never had a problem with clubs riding too slow. Back in the early 80's I had a KZ650 with KN's and 4-1 Kerker, was riding into Chicago from Hammond running around 70 when three Black Panthers pulled beside me. They looked at me I looked at them and their lead pointed behind him, I slid in behind them and we ran 80 plus down the Loop. No cop problems and cars got the hell out of our way, when they got to their exit they waved and I waved back, and then slowed back down, but it was a sweet ride and I will never forget that.
Wow 80+?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Long distance motorcyclist here, I ride single and always ask tail gunner to pass and then acknowledge captain on the way by, riding in a group is not easy and for the safety of the whole group rules have to be laid down and strictly followed, it's not about feeling superior at all, it's about knowing what and where everyone is in the group, The Captain is responsible for everyone and sets those rules, by respecting the group as a single motorcyclist if later on I'm broken down in the middle of Wyoming and that same group comes along they would help, I have seen plenty of MC's helping others along the road even broken down cars changing tires and such, I've never met anyone in a MC that was a bad guy even though I ride a Suzuki Vstrom Adventure bike I still get offered a beer in the parking lot they're hanging out at.
I'm a solo rider coast to coast. I ride a Kawasaki Voyager. Hell I'm 58 years old I don't have to worry about passing a MC club. I'm cruising along cruise control on probably under posted speed limits lol... But it's all about respect man. Treat people no matter who with respect. 99% of the time you'll get it back . Ride on brothers!!! ✌
Good vid, why I never joined a club. I ride to enjoy it and get away from most of the rules not get caught up in a whole mess of new ones.
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Exactly!
EVERYONE THINKS THEY'RE A TOUGH GUY, UNTIL THEY MEET ONE. LOL
Good thing I have a fast bike, I can talk tough, then run away really fast. :p
Unless they also have a fast bike...
Clayton, then you are in deep shit. :)
With all due respect, but do I need a tipple copy signed by the US president and a permission from my mom too? MC's do not own the road.
I’ve ridden now for 36 years and this video (nicely done)
Just reinforces my long standing belief that clubs regardless
Of designation just add and over complicate riding motorcycles
At least for me, but I can’t even stand just doing organized
Tours with schedules.
But you do a good job explaining the concepts.
I ride how I want to ride. Not causing anyone issues, but if you are going slower and I can safely pass, I'm going around. Deal with it. I pay tax and registration to use the road and have just as much right to be on the road.
Kris N to be fair mate, it's got nothing to do with elitism, not that you said that mind you, or MC's/1%ers owning the road it's just a safety thing. If you're behind a pack and you can't see the front, just hang back wait for someone to wave you through, the front is usually in contact with the back so they can see wether it's safe to pass or not. Cause if you do and you don't know or see what's oncoming and you pass you're putting both you and that pack in danger. Like I said not just an MC thing or tradition or protocol, just a good general guideline to follow for the safety of anyone on the road.
Pass them exactly like you would any vehicle
New to this motorcycle world and I found this video fascinating but here...the comments section, only proves people in many cases just simply suck at getting along with others regardless of what they ride or drive. I’m not saying I’m a people person by any means and that’s one reason I bought a bike, to be free and not have people in my face. With that said, more people absolutely need more respect in all aspects of life. Ride on brothers and live the life you want no matter who disagrees.
Black Brothers around the world... I salute You ... White Brothers ... I salute You... All of You remember one thing ... As long as We Respect each others Values different lifestyles commitments loyalties Histories and Heritage ... Seriously ... Where is the Problem ?.
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No problem may I personally speak with you about prospecting for your mc please help I appreciate and respect you very much also look up to you
Yeah black dragon my name is a Keith will be man I just wondering I know how does MC biker dress I do they got long hair and beards is all of them that long hair
I'll pass who I want, when I want. I don't give a shit if you got a patch on your back or not, you don't own the road.
Brad Stewart exactly and well said brother. Be safe out there
Brad Stewart yeah I know I got a F-450 and like I said I purposely wrote the back roads looking for these m************ the day before or the weekend of a Labor Day run so I can roll coal on them and since I got my concealed carry they won't pick a fight with me they better not because last I heard an Arsenal AK I'll be at my acolyte any day
Good information if you are into that whole club/patch/vest thing, I personally got past that when I was about 15. I am 51 years old and have been riding for about 45 of those years on type of motorcycle or another, from dirt bikes, to Harley, to crutch rocket to cafe racers, etc... When I come upon a group of bikes ahead that are going slower, I simply approach them with caution and when it is safe to do so, I turn my blinker, pass them safely and give them a wave, I don't pay attention to what they wear, what their hair looks like, if they are whatever... I use road caution and courtesy and go about my business, and I have never had anyone get upset or chase me or anything like that... No different than if I am driving my truck and another vehicle is traveling slower than I am, check for safety, blinker, and away I go about my business, regardless of what vehicle it is, or if it is a black limo with a drug king ping in it or a highway patrol car... Just go about your business without making an ass of yourself and you will always be OK.
My passing a club story: I came up to them at the start of a rare straight section of a twisty mountain road. They were going significantly slower than me. If I stayed behind, I'd be stuck there for miles, crawling through the twisties. Not fun. So I downshifted, pinned it, blew past the whole pack. Gave them a wave and disappeared around the next turn. I never saw them again.
Don't remember if they were 3-piece or monopatch, it's been too long. They were maybe 30 bikes in side-by-side formation.
Ha ha, yeah who needs a roadblock.
it's open road, drive as you please. respect goes both ways. Personally I have no problem with any MC. No one outside of an MC should ask permission for nothing on the road just drive as usual. Ride Free!!
If you are a single Rider and you come up on a pack what would you recommend for a single person to pass
Do it like you always would. Safely, and at a distance. Only MCs need consider this video. :-)
Brother Black Dragon. Thank YOU for taking the time and making the effort to share these words of wisdom on video. "Respect IS respect." Damn right. In every walk of life. Safe travels and thanks again. All the best.
Thank you for reinforcing my belief that group riding is worse than sliding naked on concrete.
And he certainly reinforced by belief that MC clubs are full of boring moronic cowards.
Glad I could appeal to your preconceive stereotypes. But alas, you didn't really need me for that now did you?
You are welcome.
Random Biker what is you version of an exciting heroic biker. Someone who talks big on youtube ? You missed the message of this video and this channel . If you dont like Motorcycle Clubs why would you watch videos about MCs on A youtube channel that is soley about and for Men and Wonen that do have an Intrest in the MC World .. Everyone is entitled to the pursiut of what ever makes them happy who the fuck are you to put down anything . You very rarely will see a true biker talking shit about say a fisherman or a hunter or a bird watcher cause the biker is into riding and brotherhood .. Its spineless peckerheads like you that i cant stand you dont have the balls or the heart to walk up live and in color and call a biker a moron and a coward. Your nothing more than a trolling keyboard pussy .
Mike OFFO, so you think it's alright to be a bully? The streets are public domain. Where does a group of individuals get off "granting access to pass", this is the mentality which makes us as bikers a target by police. Some of these old ideals need to change.
Really good to hear someone preaching Respect! Way too much division in our world as is, like you said a little respect goes a long way. PEACE!!!!!
you must be joking?
Alan B'Stard M P Not at all! All the attitude amoung riders is bullshit. We're all the same in the end.
Permission to pass???!!!! Lol I almost spit out my beer.
Only respect people that respect me otherwise too bad im no one's puppet
Respect carrys you for a lifetime. Respect to you Black Dragon. Great info as always I’ve seen those 1%’s here in Fl. And I usually stay back until I have to then I flash roll up and pass by as slow as possible. Respect to all two wheel riders.
Enjoyed this very much. Have been riding since 75 and never knew this. Learned someting new today. Thanks. "Ride Safe and Stay Alert"
I passed a 1% bad ass mc club with my wife on the back, we were traveling and we had to get home quick because she suffers from migraines and these guys were doing like 55-60 MPH on guy caught up with me and was screaming about something, I told him my wife is sick I need to get her home he just backed off, one time I pulled over when the Hells Angels came threw one time they asked me to pull over a lane
It amazes me when people say It's my right to do this or that. It's your right to deal with the real life consequences of your actions and words.
I don't need permission to pass anyone. It's called basic traffic laws and y'all dont run the laws. So there's that.
That may be but 1% motorcycle clubs don't follow laws that have their own until they follow you home and beat your Ass yes you need permission if not see what Hells Angels will do to you
I just bumped it to 14...dont like the number 13.
@@jasonsmith1449 he'd cave quick talking about it like he's all that on the internet
Even better when they all ride slow ass bikes. They'd never catch back up to me anyway.
Lots of tough guys here, prez. Thanks for the knowledge. I’m not a patch, and I don’t even own a bike at the moment but I love the culture. I may even hang around an RC or MC someday if I get back in to riding and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Some guys think they’ve got it all figured out. In reality the best riders are the ones who realize that you never stop learning.
Cheers
I was given permission to pass 1%ers, once, I was on a 2 hr trip, and came up on them pretty quick. I realized what it was so thwy actually went single file and let me through, cool part was they started speeding up and playing in traffic passing cars w me. Gave me thumbs up at a red light and we went our seperate ways. I really think the stigma behind them can be scary, but if you carry yourself w respect youll get it.
All these people talking junk. He's not trying to be a 1%er... He has respect for them because that's the way it is when you share that same passion and lifestyle of being in a club, 1% patch or not. He never said I'm a 1%er. Y'all get on here talking mad shit behind a keybaord.
Simple, practical, civilized. How could anyone have an issue with that? Tks Black Dragon for educating the masses.
Hey Dude, old white lady not a biker here.
I follow you because you are smart, logical, and make a point to get down to truth. Thanks.
I really liked the way you explain yourself, and don't apologize for cursing it sometimes helps get the point across when is seams some may not take you serious. Well damit that's just me.
Black Dragon, if you ride a lot with the modular open, check out LS2 Valiant helmets. Kinda like shark helmets but way lighter than Shark helmets. The chin bar will flip all the way back
You can live free, and you will die free... Just a little earlier than expected sometimes
As a performance cruiser rider, I just like speed, curves and throwing sparks. I've passed many 1% riders, formations occasionally, and by NOT putting any of them at any risk, I have yet to have a problem, save for when we passed a Gold Wing group, where they got pissed enough for a couple to zip ahead of us (and we were buggin' it) to show their "dominance" ...so they used their 6 cylinders to show us twin riders up. I was SO impressed...!
Oh, and I don't relate well to your "young club vs old club" ideaology, because it's mostly H.O.G. riders, riding clubs in general, that I have a problem with, inasmuch as they usually don't respect OUR ride to either momentarily share a lane letting us pass,(AND the rocket riders) and just sit there in the way, blocking our ride with their cluelessness and lack of riding skills.
GEORGIA ALLOWS lane sharing for bikes, the northern part of the state has numerous PULLOVERS to allow faster traffic, and btw, I'm 64 this month, and our motto is still " if the boards ain't sparkin' you're just parkin'"!
Not that I'm special; I just wanna pass the slugs.
"Performance Cruiser Ride" I love it. But if you are really talking about a "Performance Cruiser" you can only be talking about a Gold Wing 1800cc. Right? That's the only true "Performance Cruiser" out there. At least that's my opinion. :-)
Black Dragon National President
BS. -There are a few stock performance cruisers, but I am one of many who have taken factory slugbikes and fixed what the factory fouled.
2005 Heritage, last of the carburetted model years, low-slung, slow, no lean angles. Add 2" over forks, darkside rear tire, Intiminator tuned fork valves and lighter oil, and I have the same lean angles as a 2010 Sportster.
Add 2-1glasspack exhaust, Boyesen X-wing to carb, rejetting (for a year!) and Andrews 21 torque cams, and in 3 easy blips of the throttle, stoplight traffic is far behind you, without even trying.
Go hit the twisties and watch the occasional sportbikers look back, wondering how in heck are those big cruisers still behind us!
God, I love riding!
Having spent much less money I keep those sports bikes wondering on a Victory Vision. They were made to hug the twisties! God I love riding too! :-)
Triumph rocket III ??
one thing I didn't hear you talk about that I think is important for all riders to know, never jump into any MC'S formation unless invited.
I think a lot of riders - when they hear about "rules"/guidelines like this - need to understand the purpose behind them. These rules aren't just about respecting the club. They are about respecting safety. This was my response to a comment below:
You may consider it ridiculous. But, when riders are "in a pack" they have these guidelines for riding safety.
Like when a pack changes lanes. My old club: Road Captain (riding in the front or second row depending on the situation) signals lane change. Sgt at Arms (pulled drag/at the rear) and initiates the lane change to block the traffic in the intended lane. The rest of the pack moves over like a snake forward with the front of the pack moving last. This ensures the whole pack can move over safely.
The reason another group asks permission to pass is not because of ego. It is so the leading group can deny if they need/are planning a lane change for their club. This prevents you/your group from getting caught in the middle of the other pack. If you are moving faster this could cause issues - that is another reason you don't "blow past" - if a cage makes a sudden movement and the pack being passed has to make an evasive lane change you don't run into them.
Younger/less trained members may think it is more about respect/machismo. But, it is really about respecting each other's safety.
Absolutely
kind of like one big truck and trailer i would say, as a normal road user when i overtake a MC group i tend to act like there one big Truck with a trailer, one big unit. so i indicate first wait for the rear guard to notice it or wait a few seconds so they can have time anticipate my overtaking then wait till the road to my side is clear to overtake and then keep a safe distance from them as i don't want to cause chaos by being forced into there formation by a poor car driver bad driving, then overtake as fast and safe as possible then continue on my way. the same as i would do with a bus or truck.
Rules, traditions, whatever. You're a road user, I'm a road user and the law is the same for you as me. I'll pass you the same as any other road user, when it's safe to do so. If that's not the kind of respect you want then tough shit.
Yeah right!
They will follow you until you run out of gas and beat you to a pulp😂
I met some Black 1%ers when I was a prospect in another non 1% club, and they were extremely nice folks. I talked to them, knew my role as a prospect, and I didn’t have one single problem. If you act like you have half a brain, some semblance of common sense, and don’t believe in making debts that your ass can’t cash, you should be good. Not all will be like that, but I’d hope they’re the exception rather than the rule. What does get me are those groups who wear 1%er patches and past TV, some “friends”, or bad commercials who think they’re “suddenly” bad over a diamond with “1%er” in it. Keep up the good videos Black Dragon National President.
Theres the "reality" where we are all free to do what we want, and then there is REALITY. Respect MC protocol and be respected.
With all these rules, that's why I bought a Honda. Cause a motorcycle is about enjoying the road and being free. Not taking orders, protocols or get getting taxed. Sounds just like the Govt. which these "clubs" were started in the first place to stay away from.
I have just became Road Captain of a riding association. I am 60 years old and respect biker protocol. Thank you for sharing!
I can promise I dont care what bike I'm on. If you're going slower than I want to, I'm passing.
This just seems like common sense. I’m just an outsider watching these “MC” videos. All of these rules mirror the rules of my old frat. It’s really laughable.
I've been riding in an motorcycle club for many years and can add a little to this conversation. Motorcycle clubs no matter how serious of a club understand that the vast majority of riders don't have a clue about MC protocol. Nobody in most clubs gives a shit if you pass them doing 110 mph. Nobody's going to say anything to you at the next gas stop as long as you weren't driving in a way that would endanger me or one of my Brothers in our pack. Any rider who was endangered would have something to say to you at the next stop, so that's not a club thing. However like this man says, clubs do follow a certain protocol between one another. When we roll up on another club, we"ll look over and nod and maybe give a fist salute and then get a nod or a sign back and then we'll roll on past. This isn't done because we need permission to pass, but as a common courtesy and an acknowledgment of respect we may have for the other club. Its part of motorcycle club tradition. We don't care or expect non club riders to know or understand this. Having said this, if one club blows past another without giving this common courtesy its seen as some serious disrespect. And maybe for whatever reason one club may do this to another to demonstrate exactly how much of a lack of respect they have for them in the first place. And maybe they'll have a conversation at the next stop or maybe they won't. It just depends on a lot of factors.
One summer when I was a kid,before I had a motorcycle, I formed a group of bicycle riders.We added extended forks to our bikes,spray painted them black because well,c'mon black bikes are badass. Put cards in our spokes to make motorcycle noises.Kracker Jack tattoos on our arms and rolled up our sleeves,rode around the neighborhood like we owned the place.So much fun.I miss those days.
You are a good speaker. Calming voice, too. Easy to listen to. Thanks!
My advise after 40 plus years riding on 6 different motorcycles regarding passing clubs in formation? Just don't get in their way. I was in a hurry and caught up to a couple dozen 1%ers hauling ass (80mph) in formation in the fast lane on a straight stretch of interstate. I remained in the middle lane when I caught up to them doing better than 90. Without hesitation I proceeded to pass them, and as I did so, held my open left hand down and outside of my knee. Just like I do when I salute a Brother riding the opposite direction on a two lane road. I momentarily turned my head to admire a few of the finer bikes and gave a thumbs up when I did. As I passed the Prez I raised my hand and gave them a peace sign. Personally, I don't think they gave a rat's ass about any of it, and I sure as hell wasn't worried about meeting them at a bar or gas station down the road because I didn't somehow ask "permission" before I passed.
You are an idiot. This post was about bikers in an MC club. Did you not listen, or was that you just couldn't wait to run your silly mouth? Bikers in an MC wouldn't even notice that you are alive, let alone passing them up.
P.S. Who said this? "to insult someone you don't know who has done you no harm, and only expressed their opinion - based upon their experiences, is disrespectful, ignorant and intolerable" YOU did you azzwipe . . .
@@BlackDragonNationalPresident wow, black biker dude, you seemed a little miffed, are you some kind of sissy
Hey everyone calm down just a little. What this man was just talking about is different club's rolling up on each other , this should not be even looked at by anyone else . the man is talking about respect for each other on the road when it comes too club's period.
maybe that shouldn't matter, and maybe she should explain it better, or maybe you guys shouldn't fucking care about your little fucking stupid gangs
Passing any riding group or mc has same protocols if on your own let them see you so they know you are no threat then pass at a safe distance and acknowledge them with a hand signal and all will be good if you are in a group same applies just take some time and be respectful don’t just fly past or drag your heels and ride with them you don’t know them it won’t end well
Use indicator, move to overtaking lane, pass, indicator, move back to original lane.
These videos are for seasoned riders who aren’t with an MC,non club weekend warrior riders,knowledge for hang arounds,knowledge for prospects,etc... Or just ride your bike,do what ya want and see what happens 😂... If you don’t like BD’s vids then don’t watch them!! Good job bud!! Much Respect!!!
Nice lesson of general respect anyway. Thanks Black Dragon! -New Harley Rider
How to pass someone on a road: switch lanes, drive past. Those rules are ridiculous. Just because these guys choose to ride slow ass chunks of metal I’m not obliged to follow any other rules than the road laws.
The land of the free and the outlaws have a lot of rules and restrictions it seems.
I don't have to worry about passing any 1%'s. I ride an 883 Sportster.
LOL
See the keyword in most of the videos I've watched of yours is RESPECT. That's a hard thing to come by with the younger generation now a days. Most of them think they can do whatever they want without consequence.
If by that, you mean I can go pass whoever the fuck I want and not have to wave or say hi or fucking kiss their ass then that's right i don't have respect. You earn respect In my world it's not just given to guys in leather...
As an Independant, I have to say, I like your sense and definition of respect. So much these days I experience alot of DIS-respect. Both from cagers and the Diamond clubs. Of course, living and riding up here in Western Washington could easily be a big part of the problem, however, my association with alot of the local clubs has a tendency make me expect common respect when it's most always given. Maybe it's the rain! Lol.
Anyway, this is the first of your video's I've watched, well done. I like the impression you give off. Maybe one of these days I'll make it down your way... Ride Safe Man!
Salty-
I greatly appreciate this. I joined ABATE of Louisiana back this past August, and I watch your videos to learn. I'm currently building my first bike and your wisdom and advice are useful in preparing me. Thanks again, sir. --- ABATE of Louisiana, Bossier Chapter, "Mudd"
BS. I pass anyone I want. It is the rules of the road that dictate. Deal with it. That's life.
Really yaw GET FUCKED THAT BAD DEPRESSION must REALLY suck for the cornholes in THAT town
Yeah who are they to dictate how others should drive.
Lemme see if I've got this straight - if I want to be a real man and be free, I have to not only know but follow a bunch of rules made up by people who claim not to follow society's rules? No thanks. I've been riding since 1975 without bothering to learn any of this nonsense, and so far common sense and respect for everyone else on the road have kept me from having any problems with MC's (1% or other). You don't have to be a biker to enjoy riding bikes, and I'm just as free or more so than anyone who's a slave to a patch.
He was saying it mostly applies to riding as a pack with your colors on. I'd assume it wouldn't apply to a lone-wolf, but I have no idea man. I don't ride I just smoke weed and watch youtube videos
You don't have to follow anyone's rules. You already follow the golden rule. Respect for others. I ride the same way.
Looking back at what I wrote above, maybe I came off a little harsh. I don't hate or disrespect bikers, but I'm definitely not part of their world and I get sick of people calling me a biker with the implication that I must be an alcoholic, drug addicted loser just because I ride a bike. It was simpler years ago. If someone was on a Harley and dressed like a biker, you could pretty much assume he was. Now the roads and coffee shops are overrun with cheesedicks who watch Sons of Anarchy, buy themselves a metric cruiser, dress up in their pirate costumes and hang around telling themselves they're badasses. I'm not part of their world either and I really don't like hearing them call me Bro and talking about some biker code that means nothing to me. You do your thing, I'll do mine. Live to ride, ride to live and fuck 'em all.
BRAVO! Mr. James. BRAVO!
Hahaha... great! Well said!!
When I’m on a sport bike, I’m passing anyone. Catch me if you can with your cruiser
ML&R from Boston Massachusetts. This video just came across my feed 3 years after you put it out. Awesome job describing the club life. If I'm ever in Georgia would be more then happy to ride alongside you.
Glad it was helpful!
I cannot say that I obey "MC Protocol," but rather "safe riding protocol." I enjoy your videos, and in the last 340K miles have seen pretty much everything in terms of riding skills and preferences. Cheers, and ride far!
That's why I ride alone. That's too complicated. Plus I feel if you don't want to get passed, speed up.
13:50 min mark is where the information is actually given. It’s accurate information. But if you’re waved off by the rear or 6 position bike, you give an ok signal and back off. He may go get the permission for you, come back and wave you on.
With all the respect u and ur channel deserve I will as a man tell u this this is not how tough some one is or not is about men roads are free America is a free country for what some of us fought for got injured saw people die for this mc to have their freedom I sacrificed myself and because of that freedom and like I said with all the respect u and ur channel deserve I don't have to ask no man for permission on open free road ms protocols are for them not for everyone and I have my encounters now one single 1% ever got into shit with me this is just my humble opinion many people have died for this freedom and I earned mine with blood soo is a no go for no linda permission and like I said not about who's tougher the day shit gets ugly well let's see who a better shot this is not intended to be offensive or distespectuf
I’ve only just found your page. I’m fascinated by the MC world. I’ve always wanted to learn to ride, but haven’t got the gusto as of yet. I dig your explanations of the rules concerning the 1% clubs or MC’s in general. I can tell just from a few minutes of listening to you speak your a genuine and legit man. Thanks!
If I'm driving my car, and you guys are driving my car you have to ask me to pass because I'm in a car club.
Super Canyon Carver EXACTLY Hahahahaha
How can you and they both be driving your car?
im not going to let a group of people influence anything i would do otherwise. if i want to pass ill pass if i want to stagger and enjoy the cruse with the pack i will. just because you choose to be in that sort of lifestyle does not mean you command any authority to me or anyone else. and if i make a pass and someone gets butt hurt over it thats their problem not mine
Tempest Rider lol, unspoken rule, I wouldn't pass.
I've passed 1% clubs on several occasions on my bike, never had a problem.
Then again I'm not in an MC so 1, not my protocol, and 2, they couldn't keep up with me if they wanted to on their slow HD's.
HD are wack they couldn’t come close to M 109r was
@Resjior Reniot if I want to I can get up to around 240km on my bike, now way any harley could keep up at that speed.
@@grepominer8820 the Vrod does 180 mph its one of the fastest stock Harleys.
I see, well I would hope you have enough brains just to pass them. It would be silly to get in the other lane, catch up to the pack leader, ask him if you could pass, he gives you the green light, you ride back to the back of the pack to tell yourself the good news, and then pass them. Who would do that? Perhaps you missed the part where he says that if you are aline this does not apply to you.
lmao
I’m very curious as to solo riders encountering packs on the highway. Is it the same protocol?
Great information as always, thanks for all you do to support and educate.
I don't know if all these trolls watched the video or what, but it's about how to pass a club if you're riding with your club. Not about lone wolves or cars passing. In fact he specifically said if you're a lone wolf or car it doesn't apply, paraphrasing.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into all of your videos. I've been riding for 30 plus years and as far as I'm concerned knowledge is power. The more you know the better off you will be. I like to ride without conflict. Respect your fellow riders and you will never have any issues. That's my opinion anyway. Plain and simple, don't be a dick.
Agreed. Treat other how you expect to be treated yourself.
Freedom takes a lot of self-discipline and mutual respect. Free yourself from your bad attitude to yourself and others and all will follow...
Soldiers understand this... ;O)
I love seeing black cowboys, black bikers, or anything else that doesn't fit the stereotype. What's cool about it is seeing people follow thier interests regardless of what anyone else might think. We only get one life, so why live it trying to adhere to peer pressure, or living up to someone else's ideas of what it means to be cool, or successful. Being truly yourself is the coolest thing that anyone can ever be.
Racist much? Lots of bikers I know are just American's.
You should really read your history, there were a lot of black cowboys. History wasn't written to say so, but believe me, lots of them existed.
Thanks , I am a lone biker and I always wondered what was the respectful way to pass a motorcycle club. I ride a sport bike and I'm always flying. Ride safe brother.
Septic Society I never came across that situation before, in New York you'd be surprised how many people get pissed off just lane splitting, I never came across a group of Pagans or Hells Angels when I'm flying down the parkway, I just thought it was interesting that there is a supposed correct way to do it.
Do you really need to write "lol"???
PS FAST FORWARD TO 14:00 IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT ABOUT PASSING
Fuck that, I fly by at 3 digit speeds with my front wheel and 1 finger in the air.
YEEEE!
If you pass make sure you pass everyone, don't join in to their group.
I hear the word respect mentioned quite often. You're supposed to respect a group that doesn't respect anyone else other than the members of their own group. I'm not getting it.
No.
A legend has it Gandalf was the first ever road Captain.
"YOU SHALL NOT PASS"
Actually most are very respectful...I have seen alot of mistakes made with mc's and other riders...Most pf the time they get directed as to the problem or questioned as to why the did what they did...The way they answer and the attitude is the only thing in most cases that would bring a problem...no different than two motorist .Actually roadrage is worse in motorist....lol.
It just makes sense to be respectful to other riders, MC or not. Thanks for the info.
Now I have a question for you what if you are by yourself and you're wearing your cut and you see a bunch of bikers in a club wearing their three-piece cut From Another County or state and you're by yourself and you want to pass them do you do the same thing I'm not saying 1% clubs just three-piece MCs
If I'm by myself and I'm in my cut, I simply wave and show respect when passing.
Thanks for the important info. I am not in a MC but I respect them. I enjoy your videos and appreciate the way you share your experience. Much respect.
I will always be equally respectful to anyone on the road, but asking to pass is ridiculous and often isn’t realistic, possible or safe (unless your on a highway with multiple lanes). I pass when it’s legal and I can get around the group safely in a non-aggressive manner; just like I’d pass anyone else. I’ve never heard this before and have never had an issue. Be respectful, but don’t live in fear.
MrZerkel EXACTLY
15:00 thank me later
This man is taking the time to break down how this culture operates, in "laymans terms".
Respect... give it, and you will get it in return.
I love this guy! I found you from following Adam Sandavol, during the interview you conducted with him. Sending love from Alabama. 👊 I will continue to get caught up on all of your videos. Ride Safe.
I'll overtake anyone who is slower than me, end of. If they have an issue with that, they can try to keep up! :D
@@MrToekneeG real tuff guy huh, like you just said try to out run a bullet, fuck around and disrespectfully pass the wrong mc that's just what you might be trying to throttle away from or let's not forget those nifty things called phones no telling who might be a mile ahead
And no knowing who could be a mile behind either. EVERYONE has cellphones mate. And some ride with 2 way VHF radios too. ;) Bottom line, people should mind their own fuckin' business and let people who are riding faster than them go around unhampered. Where i'm at it's acceptable. We're not as touchy about being overtaken here. In fact we get overtaken all the time without issue, as long as it's done SAFELY. Coz we're grown ups. Not everyone does the USA style club bullshit, thank fuck for that. We're too busy partying and riding our bikes to waste time on protocol. News flash: some biking communities are inherently peaceful and aren't interested in confrontation over petty primary school shit like overtaking. Cuts into our drinking time. Thanks for your input buddy. Peace, out!
@The Nazarene Sect lol, an expert rider, without ever riding! You're precious 💗
The only problem I would see with passing an MC is passing, getting in front then staying in front of them. Pass or do not pass. Dont linger and piss them off !
Do the 1% ask for permission to pass other people?
I've been watching your videos and have enjoyed them and have learned a lot of the information over the years myself one way or another. When talking about 1%'ers I have a story. I was stationed in South Dakota back in the 80's and got to attend Sturgis for 5 years. I just like to ride my bike into town, park, and just check out everything going on. This was around the 50th year of Sturgis. That year a famous 1% club came to down and I was just walking down the sidewalk with others in public. The club was riding by and I was like wow, check this out and just watched. About 40 to 50 members. Up ahead of us a couple whipped out a camera and began taking pictures. (Before cell phones) Suddenly the group stops and a few members walk over and confront them. I don't mean pulled over stop and parked, I mean came to a stop in the middle of the road bringing everything to a stop. Minutes later the person with the camera opens it and hands biker the roll of film. Biker pulls out and exposes the roll of film and hands it back to them and goes about their business. Like you mentioned on your videos about the people who write tuff comments of going to do this or that you're 100 percent correct. NOTE: Someone is bound to say it was you taking the picture dude. It wasn't, but I wanted to. I was part of the base security forces and we got briefed on who was expected to attend Sturgis and how to interact with "Outlaw" bikers should we come in contact with them both on and off duty. I just watched your video of meeting a 1% where you talk about picture taking. I wasn't trying to overstep what you're doing; was just sharing an experience I had a long time ago.
Thank you for answering my question. I have one more question. I am a marine corps veteran with a kutte that has an Eagle Globe and Achor in the center back with a top rocker that says United States and a bottom rocker that says Marine Corps. Is that acceptable? I have some friends who are club members to various clubs out here in CA, some of which are 1%ers, who have said it’s fine, some have said to be careful with that. You being a president, I thought I would also bump the question off you. I’m not claiming a territory and by no means wanting to disrespect anyone. Thoughts?
Be sure to throw trash at the lead rider. I know it sounds crazy, but this as a sign of respect. They also like to be flipped off and cursed! Crazy world.
I'll ride and pass when it's safe who I want and when i want..respect and ownership of the road and rules belong to the rider ..and not belong to a select group suffering from a major inferior complex and insecurity they feel the need to patch out..only in groups do they act like this..by themselves they are 90 % fat dudes that don't say shit ..so ride how u want..i will do the same
Troy Elliott Did you listen to the video? You are the exact idiot he told to fuck off because it doesn't pertain to you. The whole video was about clubs passing clubs. obviously you are not in one, so why did you feel the need to be a tough guy and say some dumb shit?
Regardless of anything, it's all about being a gentlemen and having respect.
My friend passed some gang of harley riding dudes on the 5 freeway north of L.A. He passed them while lane splitting between them and some cars. He was chased for several miles until he left them in the dust. Mind you he was riding a Duc Hypermotard 820 with no wind protection. As soon as he got into L.A. and couldn't see them in his Rear View Mirror, he got off the freeway, hid in a parking structure and called me.
You have a good presentation style... Reminds me a lot of listening to Killer Mike talk. Down to earth, honest, not afraid to have a laugh even when the topic is serious. Good stuff!
Hey Black Dragon I agree with Squire SCA and I guess I could introduce myself I'm Jeff Yoder the ol'broke down scooter tramp, exbiker, Vietnam 🇻🇳 Era veteran and and as I was about to say I agree 👍 with Squire SCA that your educational videos on UA-cam my only sort of reliable place to see them cause I'm having to try to piggy back onto the wifi connection for this assisted living home 🏡 I'm in these days cause I'm 72years years old (as of Friday July 15th, 2022) and some health issues from about a year and a half ago (a major stroke and a couple of minor strokes )landed me here but it's a roof over my and at my age (recently turned 72years old and the health issues I mentioned my retirement from riding has really been finalized but it's 👌 cause I've got plenty of bittersweet memories to look back on continue to be sort of amazed that I'm still around and 1⃣ of the last tattoos I ever got says it all pretty much with a simple I'm still Here, so any w Black Dragon keep up your good work and keep the rubber side down,
@@jeffyoder8105 I think that a lot of the confusion comes from the word "club". To some people, that just means a club. To the other ones, club means literally "gang". When you look at the 1%rs, the only difference between them and the Bloods, or MS13, etc... is that they have bikes.
So if you join a GANG, then following the "rules" of the gang lifestyle make sense I guess.
But most people aren't interested in joining criminal organizations like gangs. They just want to belong to something, they ride, so they form or join a club.
Two very different mindsets with two different sets of rules.
Dragon has a reaction video to some guy in his car gassing up, wearing a Sons of Anarchy vest and some goober on his little Harley rolls up and gives him shit for wearing a vest and demands that he take it off. F that. If some Wild Hawg wants to roll up on me and tell me what to wear, he can toss off. If he wants to get physical, he better be a faster draw and a better shot than I am. The notion of just walking around telling grown men, strangers, what they can and cannot wear, is patently idiotic, and goes against the "freedom" and "rebel" lifestyle that they claim to embrace...
Its high school in bike form, and as adults, we don't have to play that game any more. Most of us moved on from high school. Those that didn't, and want their "hierarchy" and crap, can do that amongst themselves. Forcing it on others isn't freedom, its tyranny.
This video is way too long for what he was going to say about actually doing the passing. If anyone is wondering he starts to talk about it at 13:35
I only know that a group of Harleys are in my way.You could be a 1 %er or a dentist.It really doesn't matter.I am only going to wait so long before I pass.When you get a line of people behind you going up a canyon,pull over and let people pass.Respect is a two way street.Maybe you guys ride fast enough that this doesn't happen that often,but in the Colorado mountains most Harleys are driver slower than R.V.s