Bad Blood: The Border War that Triggered the Civil War
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In the years leading up to the Civil War, a bloody conflict between slaveholders and abolitionists focused the nation's eyes on the state of Missouri and the territory of Kansas. Told through the actual words of slave owners, free-staters, and border ruffians, "Bad Blood" presents the complex morality, and life-and-death decisions faced by those who lived on the border from 1854 through 1860.
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My great grandfather rode with a band of Confederate guerrillas. He was from Salem, Dent County, Missouri. It caused family to have to be buried in different cemeteries. His brother was a union soldier in 48th Mo infantry. Both survived the war and lived until 1910. Apparently they never spoke again
Suuuuurrrrreeeeee he was.
similar story in my family of a man who survived but then was Abel to be father.
Thanx 4 sharin, surely he rotted in hell for the privilege to own another man....
I had one in the Union army too.Died of disease in New Orleans.Now he never got beyond private.
It's super cool you know your family's history like that. I'm a distant relative of Gen. James MacPherson from the union.
And then came Captain Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson and the James brothers..
And they all died by the " sword ' for how they have lived
@@stoppotsstabbats But they killed many more than their own number, so count it a win.
@@stoppotsstabbats Frank survived into Old age .
@@jtalmighty947 In the end, it was for not.
A mouse, is still a mouse....for all that!
Hurrah for our Northern Heros, who Concored Evil! 🇺🇸
@@heathenraider5259 And he was the only one.👍
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My Great great Grandfather and his son my great grandfather lived in Unionville Missouri, and fought on both sides of the war. One with the Union in Leavenworth fort and the younger with the confederacy after moving from Missouri to Tennessee.
im from unionville mo
@@hhhhhh-xg9rkI use to hunt up there.
My family were also split by this war. Five of my third great uncles were in the Confederate fifth Kentucky Cavalry. Others, cousins of my great, great grandfather, served in the Union Army. The fifth mustered in with 2000 men in the beginning of the war. When the war ended, the unit had only 200 men mustered. 90% attrition rate!
Kentucky Confederate units were called orphan units as they had no state to support them.
@@jollyjohnthepirate3168 That I think also applied to many, if not all of the units that formed and served the side not recognized by their respective state legislatures.
Deo Vindici
The next Civil War will be over freedom for all men and women and will go far beyond race, religion, culture, or, to some degree, class/wealth.
The American Civil War, soldiers had a 1 in 4 chance of living, which was NOT a very high chance...
When the Universities of Kansas and Missouri football teams play each other it's called the Boarder War to this day.
BORDER
Think it’s time for a bloody bill mascot
Until mu left for the sec. Now they don't play each other anymore
@@bl18ce99who are you?
I'm here to say F KU
This was the absolute best and balanced look at this historical time. I have watched the video now three times and gleen something new with each viewing
absolutely fascinating. i'd heard the expression "bleeding kansas" but i never realised the scale of the conflict, or that at one time there was a serious chance of kansas being a slave state.
I thought it was the city of Bleeding, but I'm not from there & could've misheard it.
I think the people who migrated to Kansas were believed to be from Boston they were attacking people in Missouri they were called red legs like the red sox I figure not sure what the truth is but in the movie Ride with the Devil one man says that Kansas people in Lawrence built schools and all thought the same, which made me think indoctrination was a strange thing to people then.
In Southern Kansas near Oklahoma and not far from Joplin Missouri' is Labette Co.
They renamed the County sone years after the War from Van Dorn County. Which is named for Confederate General Earl Van Dorn.
It was devastating
There is a book about this called bleeding Kansas, talked about the under ground railroad, bought on by the Topeka Boys which it formed, talked about Kansas Red legs, John Brown
This was a great documentary on the Kansas Missouri Border War. Very well done. Thank you!
I'm a white boy, 65 years old. I have a heart as well as a conscience! It's embarrassing to me, when I read and see historical things like this!! I just don't understand how people could be so cruel. I don't think I have any Black blood in me, but I'm a little more than an 8th American Indian. Racism is disgusting, the Blacks, and Indians paid so much, to make this country what it is today!! Whatever race or nationality we are in The United States today, those who are racist, should simply reconsider their thoughts and just try to be more considerate of others! We're all Americans, let's just try a little more, to treat each other as such!! 🙂
Looking at BLM??
OH yeah it's happening again today just look around you. Control will soon be in and ALL enslaved.
There is black racist too. All of it is wrong
Good point
I’m 12.5% negative Cherokee and the rest is pure Scottish and about 20% French. The further south you go it was worse. The worst of it all is that it involves both races, and it was a class thing. even Black people who were biracial treated each other terribly, depending on who had the most or least white in them. It was disgusting. This went on before, and after slavery, and most of them are referred to as house N word by 100% Black people, or mostly darker skinned Black people. My dad’s family was out in the country in Virginia and so were my mothers so they didn’t even move to the county until my parents were in grade school. Country life with so much different than here in Virginia even in the 1950s or 60s there was a loving versus Virginia case because the white man married a black woman.. they had known each other their entire lives, and worked together on farms, and his parents had a farm, and her parents worked there, but they fell in love and got married, and then all hell broke loose with the state or commonwealth of Virginia.
It wasn’t initially, but by the time word spread to Richmond they were in an uproar, and the poor people did take their case of Virginia court of appeals, but they ended up having to move to West Virginia and live, because it was a backward here then
Damn well said Raymond P.
My mother's people were Livingston Co Missouri folks. Good people. They originated in Albany New York and made their way out west, where their surnames were Anglicized. Eckerson became Akerson and Ten Broeck became Timbrook. I am certainly an American Midwesterner at heart. I believe in Mom, Dad and apple pie, and don't care if that's corny and out of date.
AMEN my BROTHER!
Good Country, Missouri.
I spent tome in Stover& Sedalia.
I would have fought for the Condederacy!!!!!!!@
We’ll take your word for it
@Christopher Caetano I'd rather have A Woman;;You don't even know why you say AMEN
@Christopher Caetano I'd rather have A Woman;;You don't even know why you say AMEN
Excellent production! I was unaware of much of the Kansas debacle and John Brown's role in that whole horrible blood lust. Amazing how one man (John Brown) could influence national policy so much. Kansas was one thing but his assault on Harpers Ferry, in essence, caused the southern states to succeed. Again, bravo to the creators of this production!
This portrayal is self contradictory. It first purports the Civil War wasn’t over slavery, but the portrayal is predominantly based on the conflict over the perpetuation of slavery.
For real lol. I think a lot of people /want/ this war to not be over slavery because a lot of people, especially in the south, had family fight for the confederacy.
I've been reading the comments, and I have a recommendation for you all, which none of you will take. Before commenting on history try researching it. That doesn't mean watch a movie or read one book of one person's opinion. It means research the entirety of slavery throughout history and is still happening to this day, and I'm not speaking metaphorically.
Not all historians are correct. Don’t jump to conclusions.😊
I am from Harrisonville Missouri and Cole Younger and his family lived here , his Dad was the first mayor of Harrisonville and was killed by a Union soldier near Westport, the family relocated to Lees Summit and most of the family members are buried there, Harrisonville has a great history of the Border Wars check it out
It’s scary how many similarities there is today
Wat are you talking about
Stunning documentary
Very good indeed, I had no idea that there was a boiling cauldron leading up to the Civil War.
Well of course not. Wouldn’t do any good most people can’t figure out the bs they shovel out in public schools.
Your taught the north freed the slaves out of the goodness of their heart and then moved on to free the plains from the reign of Indian terror.
If the whole story is slavery and their heart was good? What happened to that heart of gold when it went genocide on the plains tribes?
Thank you for the education....brilliant
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You skipped a whole section about latter-day saints being run out of Kansas/Missouri because they were against slavery and would have cast votes against it......
The Mormons were first run out of Illinois.
Plus they were a polygamist cult.
The LDS was ran off two decades prior to bleedjng Kansas. Joseph Smith was trying to assassinate the Governor Boggs.
Well done documentary, as I learned in the 50’s as a child.
5:41 This is insane. The announcement of human beings for sale.
I'll never understand how some folks just don't get why we must teach this history to our children. I studied and read about the Civil War and it didn't cause me any harm.
#TeachThemWell
racerx -- The issue has been treated dishonestly , it is not that anyone doesn't want slavery to be taught , everyone wants that , it is that people don't want children taught that all white people are inherently racist and even born racist . Unfortunately , many educators want that taught in school to students ...
@@michaelweber5702Are you intentionally setting up a straw man, or do you actually not know the history well enough to understand it?
Wrong, they are wanting history taught, and the other side is claiming that teaching our history is teaching "white people are inherently racist." There's literally been no plan or incident of "white people are bad" being taught. But Fox News believes that anything that isn't American exceptionalism is bad.@@michaelweber5702
Just discovered ur channel ❤❤❤❤❤ it
Midwest states definitely changed the agricultural balance when you had 16 feet of black top soil you didn't need slaves to make a successful farming venture
Only rich people owned slaves, because they costed as much as a new car today!
That's also why I don't believe that man shot down the slave!
"Right the wrongs of the past"? Neither I nor any member of my family did a dam thing wrong even if some of my ancestors fought for the south,of which, like all southerners, I am immensely proud of . People of that time period were survivors in ways that most today are clueless of.There is no wrong to be righted ,anybody who says otherwise is just a beggar looking for a handout.
The guy handing out the weapons in the wagon to the people reminded me of Big daddy handing out the hoods in Djanjo Unchained!!! Lol
Very well made, thank you.
Thanks, Shane!
Way to many ads
War never would of happened without the issue of slavery and free states so if you look at the foundation of the conflict it's slavery period
This is an excellent film on the subject that had always remained very hazy with me.
The institution of slavery was not the cause of the war. The tariff, a tax on imported goods, was the sole cause of the war. Northern manufacturers, who had gained political control in northern states, wanted the government to lay heavy taxes on foreign commerce to "protect" their domestic business. The South, however, was dependent on foreign commerce for its prosperity and wanted low tariffs. Political and business leaders on both sides realized that further argument was useless, that the tariff rate depended on the balance of power in Congress between the northern and southern states.
lost causers get bent
@@jigglebilly7771 edgy
@@PreacherLevi Why then was none of this mentioned in the Cornerstone Speech by Alexander H. Stephens. All historical documents confirm that the struggle between North and South was about "That Peculiar Institution"..
Anti-Indian anger rose in the late 1880s as the Ghost Dance spiritual movement emerged, spreading to two dozen tribes across 16 states, and threatening efforts to culturally assimilate tribal peoples. Ghost Dance, which taught that Indians had been defeated and confined to reservations because they had angered the gods by abandoning their traditional customs, called for a rejection of the white man’s ways. In December 1890, several weeks after the famed Sioux Chief Sitting Bull was killed while being arrested, the U.S. Army’s Seventh Cavalry massacred 150 to 200 ghost dancers at Wounded Knee, South Dakota.
For their mass murder of disarmed Lakota, President Benjamin Harrison awarded about 20 soldiers the Medal of Honor.
Resilience
Weirdo
Harrison Sucked!
It was the beginning of the Nader.
those 20 should have been court-martialled with dishonourable discharge papers ect. thats sick 🤮ect.
Disarmed ?
Of all people, Hillary? Wow!
08:50 the aspect hardly ever mentioned is that with every new territory granted statehood, it would add two more senators to the senate, and a certain number of reps to the house. Since there were a much smaller number of senators at the time then there are today, the addition of two or four or six senators had a much bigger impact back then.
So it was crucial for either side to bring a new territory to their side so their voting power, either in favor of or against slavery, would not be diluted. This process is not dissimilar to FDR's attempt to increase the number of Supreme Court justices that he would be able to appoint to favor his New Deal agenda.
A similar consideration is still in play today when discussing statehood for DC or Puerto Rico. This time it's not about slavery, but which political party would get the additional seats.
statehood for DC? that would make DC far less objective and I thought it was against the law. DC Needs to be neutral as possible to keep any semblance of fairness.
They cared about the seats because of slavery, dude. It was slave states vs non-slave states
@@dagak1180 And?? It's literally what this video is all about.
@@dagak1180 you memorized your history books so well. too bad the rest of history isn't allowed to be taught to school kids. He who owns the gold makes the rules.
@@genkiferal7178 The only thing that isn't allowed to be taught to school kids is CRT, genius. We live in the age of information, you can study anything you want.
Thank you.
Interesting that people from Missouri are to blame for Topeka having such a hostile attitude toward common decency.
They call it Bleeding Kansas, but most of the bleeding was done in Missouri or in Kansas from those who were from Missouri.
Thanks for sharing this super interesting doc! It was a president that said, "the only thing new in the world is the history you don't know" & he was right, what i don't know would fill a warehouse. A brother of mine who knows about this type of thing said that black overseers were way more brutal to their racially kindred than white overseers because they need to prove their worth to their owners. Crappy way to live. ✌❤ from Canada
That was also the case with some Jewish guards in the Nazi death camps. They had their own survival to worry about. But there's also something about mistreating someone that makes you begin to hate them. The people who hate the most are those who have done wrong to the hated, so it's not always about survival, but self-justification.
Another thing few modern people seem to notice about supposed historical accounts that show someone killing a slave is that such an act would be like shooting one of your prize Arabian horses, or several of your most valuable cattle. Slaves were not only expensive [otherwise they wouldn't have been worth hauling on ships from Africa to the new world], but required a hefty investment of feeding and care, A weak, sick, starving, and miserable slave cannot do much work. Then you'd have a problem with potential suicide. If a slave's life sucks enough, they would no longer care to live. You'd have to maintain some kind of balance in their quality of life, so I can't buy the idea of slave owners constantly killing or maiming their valuable property. You'd have to be such an idiot that your plantation or farm would fail anyway, to be stupid enough to do serious damage to any of your slaves.
Logically speaking, at least, you'd also be better off letting a slave run than shooting him, because if he's dead, you just lost a very large investment, permanently. If you let him run, there's at least a chance of catching him later. Again, any slave owner who would just shoot a guy who runs would have to be an idiot who doesn't value his own assets/investments, and such a person would be too stupid to succeed at farming anyway.
Then of course, there's the myth of "working for free". Once again, you can't have slaves without furnishing their food, housing and medical needs, not to mention enough social and emotional needs to keep a will to live. How many people today have jobs that don't really pay all their food, housing, medical/survival, transportation needs, so they can live another day to make it to work? A slave was "paid" at least that, which many of the Earths population today barely acquire, and many white kids who worked in factories later, did not even make enough to live on, AND had to work many more hours per day than a typical slave.
But people today - because of Leftist indoctrination - are so high on their concocted indignation, for the sake of virtue signaling, that they can't concede any of those facts.
@@jameseverett4976 Wow, that was really well written, thank you for an informed & eloquent comment! Perhaps it's because I'm a real White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, (not the cross burning kind) but the idea of slavery always confounded me. For example, if an African is nothing more than a beast of burden, how could you in conscience (as many identified as Christians), rape the pretty ones & sell the offspring as slaves. Does their moral ambiguity include other livestock as well, where do you draw the line? But these same "white Christians" were bombing Black churches into the 1950's or later.
I discovered that one of my ancestors in Lancaster county PA owned a fenian slave by the name of O'Hare before the american revolution. Unsurprisingly he came down with draptomania, & the advert in the paper went something like: "$2.00 reward for the return of unaway slave, (i forget his 1st name) O'Hare from the County Cork, the proof of which is on his tongue & in the redness (or ruddyness) of his cheeks and hair." I don't know if he ever got him back, but i do know back in the day a good black male slave was the equivalent of a Cadillac in the 1950's.
Of course O'Hare would've been cheap as chips, the Irish republicans are worthless. Wink.
I've heard said "we always hate the ones we've wronged" it certainly seems to be true, one need look no further than your local Native "reservation", or more recently residential schools for native children first run by the pope & then by the national government in order to destroy there tongue, custom and culture. The damage done to those people will likely never be undone because the Canadian gov't doesn't care about a bunch of savages with a child's mind. Personally I always loved the way my own Scottish Celtic (pronounced keltic but you knew that) clan (not klan) culture dovetailed seamlessly with Native American clan culture, 2 warlike savage races with a genetic predisposition to dancing & drumming. Scots married into native tribes & often came hold high office. Don't know where i was going with that, sorry. Anyway you're a good bloke & if i was on facebook I'd definitely hit you up for an intelligent chat or a bit of the craic.
Cheers mate, ✌❤ from Canada
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You are only accounting for enslaved people who were considered especially valuable. Look to how they worked enslaved people to death on sugar plantations, so many died that they required a constant supply of new enslaved people to replace the lost laborers. The lot of many enslaved people was to survive on scraps, which is why so many traditionally black dishes in the United States are made from plants and animal parts that were undesirable. Enslaved people who fled were always tortured, sometimes to death, to dissuade others from making the attempt. There was the constant threat of relatives being sold to different owners, either due to lack of concern or as a punishment. The fact that one could be sold to a scientist to be dissected, or experimented on, as was done on numerous occasions. The fact that whomever owned them could do horrible things to them without redress.
Edit: While it was the house slaves who were most likely to be violated by their masters, there was also the unending nightmare of slave breeding farms during the era of slavery in the United States.
@@jameseverett4976 Now they just make sure we all have steak, ice cream, a recliner and a big screen and can make payments on time.
Annoy the evil ones that hate free speech, click on the avatar.
@@RageTyrannosaurus I knew I would get flak for that, but didn't have time [or space] to write a complete history book, so I wouldn't leave anything out, thus appearing to say things I never said. No one would have read it all anyway.
Lesson: never tell a segment of a story, issue or fact in these triggered times. Crowds of pre-offended warriors are waiting with baited breath to nail you over what you MUST be implying.
Ahh, the good ol days. They should bring them days back
They are....go get it. You skeerd?
You mean where you are allowed to own people?
Be nice if we could send them all back other countries need to come get them they shipped them here for money
@@gregclaflin9026 you may not know it, but you are owned
@@luckydubeinrc5165 not likely Rube.
So history repeats itself.
So many ads, I couldn’t concentrate on the information being presented.
Two members of my family were killed at Lawrence....Ralph C. Dix and Stephen H. Dix.
I lived next to little Dixie lake for 13 years.
By the way, "Wide-Awakes" was the term used for militant Lincoln supporters in the north during the 1860 election campaign.
That was good..
good but you got a major screwup showing west viginia as a free state cuz it did not even exist until 1862. it was part of virginia and part of the slavocracy.
I’m curious why Wyandott City is never mentioned.
an excellent documentary
John Brown was literally fighting against slavery.
Murdering actually
@@charlesbyrd6055 a true hero
@@charlesbyrd6055 No different than what the southern white Christians were doing to black people under their Bible.
Prince Albert promised his Queen on their wedding night to "return the Colonies back to the Crown" and founded the abolition movement, which is ironic because his family (Sassoon) gained the exclusive right to export African slaves a hundred years earlier. The Bank of England financed John Brown's misadventures...
@@MrJaxon620 Just like John Wilkes Booth.
If the million Union soldiers that invaded, the North could come back to life and see what they fought for they would have joined their Southern brothers.
They were slaves, not “bondsmen.” Don’t sugarcoat the racism.
Were the feudal lords who basically owned their peasants racist?
Grow up out of that crap. Click on the avatar.
@@waypasthadenough no, but race based slavery is different from serfdom, by its very conception it was racist. Sorry if this is beyond your cognitive abilities.
@@Sammyandbobsdad Your little mind has been stolen from you...
@@waypasthadenough well, at least I had one, unlike you bigot.
@@Sammyandbobsdad it’s just a cheap labor. Were ancient Romans racists?
God bless the Free State of Kansas, and Good Ol John Brown. Also bless the men of Missouri that fought for the Union, of which there were more than twice the amount than fought for the illegitimate Missouri Confederate government. It's a shame that every time a video like this comes out, the Lost Causers crawl out of the woodwork like, well, you know what.
I wonder if the abolitionists of yesterday would now have regrets.
I’m increasingly convinced that there are no truly good or bad people in wars, but always one side which does the right thing but the wrong way, and one side which does wrong thing but for the right reasons. Those few who do the right thing, the right way, for the right reasons are too often at a disadvantage against the other two sides. Of course, the leaders of all three sides are just as often the people who do the wrong things, the wrong way, for the wrong reasons, and benefit from their cunning, influence, and lack of scruples.
... and all of them are led to the actions by the "few/1% of the 1%", whom control the information and use it to provoke the unaware, for that 1/1% gains of power and profits.
For the whole of human history, the public has largely lived through the Lower Mind aka Ego Mind and have been easily manipulated by those whom own the "Power Tools" the "International Bankers and Financiers", whom own and/or control the *"Information/News Media" and "Money/Currency", aka Federal Reserve Bank *Corporation*
Note: the family that owns that Corporation still today, wanted to control and profit from that ownership, (that role was originally under the US Treasury and should be today), so they infected the minds of the Southern 1% = Plantation Owners, and there were several (5-8) that owned between 900 and 1400 enslaved Peoples, free labor for their Cotton, Hemp, Sugar, Plantation Corporations, and these owners were then the wealthiest people on the planet. They also owned or had influence over the Newspapers in the South.
These International Bankers and Financiers convinced them that Lincoln planned to free the slaves, which was not on his agenda, he wanted to convince all new states to be free states free of slavery and had no plans to interfere with existing estates, hoping they would come around to address the issue themselves.
He refused to give the Banking and Finance business to these International Bankers..
Andrew Jackson had done the same and he too was threatened with assassination, but fate allowed that he managed to get the gun from the guy and whip the ---- out of him. (2 guns, both stalled, and Jackson survived the attempt).
Those Southern Plantation Owners used propaganda to infect the minds of the Southern Public and the rest is History. (Just as the 1/1% Owners of News Media do today)
Beth Bartlett
Tennessee, USA
(Degrees: Sociology, Journalism, History)
University of Memphis
Class of 91
Hmm not true in this war
@MSM, I couldn't have said it better myself. I would add that those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
There are some slave owners who treated there slave’s much better than others.
Better diets, housing, clothing etc.
As bad as slavery was I’m glad to hear reports of humane treatment.
Brown was a man ahead of his time
We need a Man like Yachanan today
Ive always told people that the kansas/missouri rivalry is ghe oldest in all of sports due to us basically starting the civil war
I guess the aliens can do the same thing with Earth if they wanted today. This is FUNny!
85 years before the Civil War the colonies rose up together to fight for freedom from tyranny and taxes. The causes behind the Civil War were not so much about slavery as it was about the taxes levied on the Southern States that the North was using to build their own industry. The tax on cotton and tobacco was doing nothing for the South. That was one of the reasons why the South wanted to govern themselves without Northern interference.
They have three kinds of sun in Kansas.
I am sorry to say that i found myself talking to the Cat...it just couldn't keep my attention.
I just haven't noticed any current or former slaves subscribing to the notion of slavery being an inalienable right to anyone, weird ?
yes they do over seas 😉 no thanks!
Blacks love slavery in africa to this day. Nobody is allowed to talk about it or they get banned for wrong-think.
I wonder if that British pro slavery guy was my ancestor? I have an ancestor who went straight from England to settle in Missouri in the 1840s
And people don’t understand why we call it the war of northern aggression. Even with union soldiers as my ancestors I still know that one man may call them immigrants but anyone who doesn’t call them hostile invaders is dead wrong. My family sold our lands in Kansas in 1987 after 135 years
"why we call it the war of northern aggression"
Because south*rn trait*rs attacked Fort Sumter.
What propaganda does to a mf smh. Check out Atun-Shei's youtube channel for some information about the civil war. He was a lost causer himself until he started researching that time period. Vlogging Through History is also cool. He's a conservative (Atun-Shei might be too) if that matters to you.
I had a great-uncle that was Mennonite that traveled to Missouri to steak a claim & he protested slavery
Kansas was still suffering from racist ideology well into the 20th. century. I lived/grew up in Manhattan, Kansas where the black folk lived south of Poyntz Ave., and the white folks lived north of Poyntz Ave. - the difference was quite palpable! It was not until the Kidd family (black) bought a home on the north side that things began to change. The Kidd's had two male children (they might have also had a girl or two), both of whom were my friends. We used to go to the Saturday matinees together. Both were also top-notch, A students!
Palpable?
@@brucegoodall3794 apparent, noticeable, in your face different etc.
It would have gone a little easier if the Government either State or Federal had bought the slaves and then freed them. Instead of stealing them. (in the owner's opinion).
Something to be said, looking back to look forward, for being so lazy that you'd rather pay one's stolen, illegitimate price to be able to make someone else do what U are too lazy to do yourselves.
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Lmao self ritious black man buffalo soldiers killing natives. Freed blacks sure never stood up for the Indian.
You completely ignore the extreme efforts and sacrifice of St. Louis’ Republicans and German immigrants. The state remained in the Union at great cost.
It’s also pretty sad that you refer to “the party of slavery” without calling it by its name: The Democratic Party. If you’re not going to tell the story honestly, it’s NOT history.
It’s interesting to note that in the squatting, anarchy, political violence, voter fraud and its sense of ownership over other humans, that Democrat Party hasn’t changed a bit.
There were good, God fearing anti slavery people in Missouri. They were called Republicans!
They damn sure ain't changed one bit. Well, they have added child mutilating to that disgusting legacy of theirs. 🤢
This country will burn. She can’t face how terrible she was. She won’t humble herself to change
I was told once the only reason why Missouri became a slave state was because a little piece of it was south of the Mason-Dixon line
Actually, nearly 98 percent of Missouri falls under the Mason Dixon line if you were to extend the line from the Maryland-Pennsylvania border in a straight line across the US. But that would include ALL of Kansas, as well.
22:00 - 22:12 minutes in. The jet contrail above the voters leaving in their wagon. Director didn’t look up. 🤔
I love how people pretend the civil war was fought over slavery….
It's interesting that both of these states are now some of the racist in the union. Perhaps less surprising in Missouri which has always been racist. The NAACP still warns black folks against driving through Missouri. Also God bless John Brown
Damn Yankees! Two of my 2x grandfathers rode with Forrest! \X\
My 3x grandfather bought slaves from Forrest’s Negro Market in Memphis before the war got rolling good.
One side of my family are from Joplin Missouri. Do you want your children to grow up hating Irish and Cherokee. I know what hate feels like.
Love our missouri heritage
No slave owner ever was a good man nor a christian.No excuse, no nice talking.Period!
There's nothing in the ancient tribal propaganda about slavery being wrong.
Both slaveholders and abolitionists use it to justify their evil.
Click on the avatar.
Aha, especially Brown.
True, but to be fair no modern liberal was ever a good man either. They just virtue signal, hoping they will be the last party member to get the guillotine.
What if you inherited them, and then freed them.
#Amen 👑👑
Be very logical when you think about this. Only the rich could afford slaves. Why? A slave required housing, food, clothes and medical care. Question: Why would a white farmer with children want to fight for the rich to own slaves?
The Civil war was fought over the north oppressing the southern trades to the Europeans. Example: The southern states were mostly agricultural, Out of the Southern shipping ports they sold their raw cotton. The Yanks wanted the raw cotton then process it to cloth, thread, blankets, Etc. Then they'd sell finished cotton for a higher price.
At the end of the Civil war Lincoln's Federalist over regulated the USA and have been ever since. The Feds expand the Government turning our Republic into Socialism. The result is Rich or Poor. No more middle class America. No more Capitalism. ~~~ It's all "GONE WITH THE WIND".
Think about logic before you verse your opinion based on hearsay. :o)
Interesting view of history. I would recommend that you read the history of the country up to 1800 or so. You may revise portions of your theory.
@@ray_glaze A logical answer Ray If you knew my history of learning how to learn.
Most all history is written by the winners. Is that correct?
All Authors report facts meaning truth?
Do you agree that slavery was world wide during 1861? (The date S/C fired on Fort Sumter)
Did Slavery end in Europe after our Civil War?
Did you know a healthy slave sold for as much as $800.00 in those days.
Before Jefferson Davis became President of the Confederacy how many positions did he hold in US Politics?
By the way my judgments on our Civil War are Hypothetical's founded through my research.
You and I agree (I hope) that research means searching again and again
Britain abolished slavery in 1834, France in 1847. Both predate the emancipation proclamation, which did not abolished slavery except in occupied territory.
It has been my experience that historic questions are as complicated as questions in most behavioral sciences.
And the search for truth continues.
@@chuckkady7282 "All history is written by the winners"
Yup, the white supremacists won your civil war and have been writing, and reading, history ever since.
See above.
@@chuckkady7282 The planter fascism is strong in you.
Sounds like the 2020 presidential election or any election in California.
Yep. Looks like dems have their “ways” with ballots since 1855))
Sounds like our last election.
That’s right as rain
Yeah a lot of people pissed off because the former Presidents ego couldn't admit defeat. This guy even said if he didn't win in 2016, the election was rigged. Somehow when he won he was real quiet about that until the next election. The only reason people say it was rigged is they are mimicking a sore loser who just can't imagine more people in this country disliked him than did. Face it, the people on the other side are NOT your enemy, we are being duped by our politicians into believing we are. Ask yourself why are they doing that. What is their end game. To weaken us, divide us and ultimately destroy us as a nation just to keep themselves in power to the determent of all of us.
@@gregclaflin9026 well Trump has his down falls for sure but he is not communist like Biden Pelosi and Chucky and the rest of the democrats
@@barrywinfree6845What makes Biden a Communist?
@@hazelwray4184 he is against freedom anytime government tells you have to inject something in to your body or else you can’t buy or sell where you want you can’t work wherever you want when it fails to protect his country and is trying to destroy our country they don’t follow the constitution of there country or protect its own border they are communist he wants total control of you buy or sell he a pillager of his country and hates law and order that’s a communist who wants total control of your children and is totally evil that’s communism that’s your democrat communist party wake up
Crazy to think there were such evil people who owned slaves. This is a dark mark on humanity and these slave owners are looking up from hell while these slaves are looking down from heaven. As a white man I'm deeply ashamed that this had happened probably from my ancestors. Racism is one of the deepest sins there are and it makes me sad that there is still racism among all ethnicities. Please people Jesus is the answer and is our savior from all the sin going on within the world. Please be courteous and love thy neighbor because he'll is a real place as is heaven. We are living in the end of times so please repent
You're judging past people by todays standards.
Easy for you to sit in moral judgment.
Slavery was the norm.
The Bible doesn't even condem it.
Had the abolitionists seen what black culture has done to this country I doubt that they would have fought.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@davegreene1198 In the Old Testament owning slaves is A-Ok with God.
Those people were born slaves they are not responsible independent people
Rock chalk till i die
The Civil War wasn't about slavery. Read the Morrill Tariff history.
Lincoln even bent over backwards to make that as clear as it could possibly be made: "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."
But virtue signaling is all we have anymore, so we must MUST MUST MAKE it about slavery, or else.
No one goes to war over a tariff. Would you?
Sigh..... the South left the Union and were in a state of rebellion in February of 1861..... The Morrill tarrif was written into law in March 1861 = not a cause of the war..... nice try tho 🤡
Sounds like the typical Democrat to me lol
You mean typical neoRepublican...that is who they are today, remember?
Sounds like typical Republican to me! MAGAS believe the Big Lie that Frump started. 😮
We're Americans now. We can look back and try to learn from our past, but to come out angry or guilty isn't healthy. This is a long time ago and we should treat it as such. You think if people came and kidnapped Americans and took us as slaves that our country and our people would come fight to get us back. Didn't see any of that back then. Can't think of one story where a slave ship that was off the coast of Africa was bombed or comprised in any way and to me that's sad that their fellow countrymen and family didn't do more to stop it. Look at John Brown he gave his life for for freedom and their own people didn't bat an eye. Looks like they belong here though, where they know at least most of their fellowmen will risk their lives for their freedom. We should all walk away knowing there were lots of men willing to die for the idea of freedom no matter what color or ethnicity people are. That's what I take out of it. I think it'd be terrible feeling getting taken and no one standing up for me, but we stood up for them here, And did loads more than what their fellow people did I take pride in that. I'm sure they do too. there's lots of angles to look at things I choose mine just like you choose yours. That's the way I choose to see it. John Brown should be on the dollar bill. John Brown should be on Mount Rushmore. John Brown was a badass. 3 cheers for John Brown, horah horah horah you gave up the greatest gift for others to prosper and you did it out of love. He was truly a saint if there ever was one and we give him ZERO props for his accomplishments. It's sad and makes me kinda sick to my stomach that a man that great gets no acknowledgeent.
I grew up in little Dixie in Missouri. My great-grandmother told me during the Civil War all the men were gone to war they had a dinner bell they would ring when the Jayhawkers were spotted and all the women and children
Would hide in a cave down in the hallow below the old home place.
I live across the river from riverside Missouri. We always call it little dixi
Finally, the history of what preceded the Civil War. Fort Sumter wasn't the start of the Civil War, it is just the most famous battle. But the war had already started.
Bands of civilians fighting over the future of one state within the union is not the same war as 11 states leaving the union, forming armies, and fighting to remain separate from the union, while the remaining states fight to keep the union together.
They may be born of the same loins, but they are not the same war.
@@ALRIGHTYTHEN. It was the same war for the same reasons.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill Bleeding Kansas was fought to make Kansas a slave state. The Civil War was fought to preserve the union.
Not the same war, nor the same reason.
Some people say that John Browns attack on Harper's Ferry was the beginning of the Civil War, but that's not true either. That was a treasonous act against the government that puts him in the same boat as secessionists.
@@ALRIGHTYTHEN. The underlying issues were all there in the lead up. Many people from northern states came to Kansas because it was pivotal to what was going on at the time, southern succesionism and slavery, as well as those from Missouri. I can see where you are coming from and you have good points. But I see these as all the same sentiments and raising the levels of hostilities that lead to the Civil War.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill Underlying issues aren't causes, they're facilitators. While the war of 1861-1865 wouldn't have happened without slavery, slavery could have kept existing without the war, and could have even existed with a Lincoln presidency.
There was one reason the Civil War happened. The southern states wanted to leave the union and Lincoln wanted to preserve it. Bleeding Kansas had nothing to do with that.
In the election of 1860 Missouri voted for a candidate to continue slavery yet not secede from the Union. St. Louis although having some southern sympathizing was like a Union city in a confederate state split more by urban versus rural than by north versus south due to its large German immigration and some Irish in the city. I reommend to any civil war buff visiting St. Louis to see the Grant national park museum. Prior to the civil war Grant who came from an abolitionist Ohio family met the sister of his army buddy and married in to a slave owning Missouri family near St. Louis. Grant was assigend years prior to the civil war at Jefferson Barracks that became a large Union army base in the western theater of the war. Across the road from the museum you can also enjoy a few hours at Grants farm for a fun family outing with a tram ride seeing animals such as buffalo on the grounds. This national park museum really shows what it must have been like for Grant being in a slave owning family where one brother differed in view with another brother and father. Missouri provided soldiers to both sides of the war. This was really a good video showing so much more than I previously realized about Missouri that only had cotton in the southeastern part of the state yet slaves were used on Missouri farms for other products.
Grant’s wife, Julia, and he owned slaves at their Whitehaven Plantation. She inherited them from her family. They didn’t free the slaves until Missouri amended the 13th Amendment, after the war.
@@mechcavandy986 Thanks for the info. I remembered Grant was once given a slave as a gift in the 1850s from his father-in-law who he freed and I just looked it up on the internet. His name was William Jones and he was freed in 1859. I remembered this from the Grant national park museum I visited. Being married myself for almost 50 years, I am sure she had influence on the inherited slaves you mention. It's quite a story how he came from an abolitionist Ohio family and how through his army buddy meeting his family in the St. Louis area met his sister and married in to a slave owning family.
Our State hwy Historical marker in Grant City(named after "the great gen")Missouri,
IS not Historically True.
Imagine that,The more Ya Know.....
Learn the True history of Missori's Government leading up to the war and you'll find nearly a play book for how and Why the war happened.
If you can find the TRUTH.I've Lived here over 50 yrs and I'm still learning.Very little of which is recorded correctly in books.
@@Mr.Guild1971 I like viewing some of the stories on PBS and UA-cam and books from the library that give so much more than what happened in the condensed history books we had in school. Missouri pretty much had it all from both sides.
Thanks for this. I live near STL now and I wanna see some if this stuff. Been through Jefferson Barracks quite a bit.
US History was so boring back in highschool but this has made it sooooo interesting. I'm addicted to it now!
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With all these documentaries, why doesn't anyone bring up Thomas Paine's writings over slavery? That was 1774 when he first came to the the colonies via Franklin and Jeffereson and was coeditor of the Pensylvania Journal. Yet noone addresses it.. I bring it up our of couriosity.
Wrong video..
@@michaellovetere8033 My opinion not yours. My words do reflect much concerning the confederacy and have historical connections If you don't like it.. Pound sand. Don't remember requesting your approval or opinion. Like or dislike, I don't care either way. Have a nice day.
What did he say about slavery?
@@hopper1189 Spoke of how wrong it is and it's one of the most evil things a person can do to another person. You can find it on the internet.
@@robertcole9391 I was not even aware Thomas Paine addressed the issue of slavery, thank you for brining this to my attention I will definitely look at it myself
I am 63 years old from Alabama. The county I come from Winston County was pro union and anti slavery. It seceded from the Confederacy and became the Free State of Winston. My great grandfather fought for the Union.
The institution of slavery was not the cause of the war. The tariff, a tax on imported goods, was the sole cause of the war. Northern manufacturers, who had gained political control in northern states, wanted the government to lay heavy taxes on foreign commerce to "protect" their domestic business. The South, however, was dependent on foreign commerce for its prosperity and wanted low tariffs. Political and business leaders on both sides realized that further argument was useless, that the tariff rate depended on the balance of power in Congress between the northern and southern states.
Wow. Round of applause for Billy boy over here!
“mY cOuNtY fOuGhT fEr dUh uNioN!!” Wooly bully for you. Pin a rose on your nose. I guess now that you’ve boasted that from the hilltops, maybe they’ll go easy on you, huh? You know, you’ll be “one of the good ones” to the average drug-addled city-dwelling leftist turd and his Third World pets.
And now that I think of it…did you just say that your county “seceded” from the Confederacy? But wait…I thought all you liberals hated secession? Isn’t that what you’ve all been whining about these last sixty plus years, how “secession” flags have no place in our “beautiful melting pot” society? So, tell me, which is it? I guess secession is okay when it’s your side of the fence doing it, huh? How very progressive.
@@PreacherLevi
Don’t bother trying to talk sense to all the virtue-signalling leftists. They don’t care. They hate us either way.
Not true
@@PreacherLevi I'm a history prof, bro; this is nonsense. If you take even a MOMENT to read the state secession resolutions of 1860-61, you'll see that preserving (& expanding) slavery is front & center among the stated reasons. Probe a little deeper: in the SC debate over secession, delegates discussed using tariffs as a secession issue & rejected it.
If the North cared about the slaves they sure had a funny way of showing it by looking at how they treated blacks before, during, and after the war and it wasn't by "fighting a war" for them by any means. President Lincoln said it himself "he cared not if ONE MAN WAS FREED" AND "that his only loyalty was to the UNION". It was about uniting the states under the union and or power of the ultra rich overlords who would not have it any other way for by control that they would have it.
No mention of the FIFTY % Terrif on all imported goods which only hurt the south and those who succeeded from the North. This was about the constitution which stated each state governed itself and had the right to succeed and thise who did were under INVASION by the NORTH where horrific things were done not only to men but also women and children. Freeing the slaves was only a side note in order to gain sympathy for the crimes of the North as well rewrite history. This is the ONLY good that came from the Civil War was the freeing of the slaves.
This video is ful of exactly what you would think it would be, lies and a bunch stereotypes. Literally only 5% even owned slaves so then why would so many fight a war in order to keep those slaves they didn't own or want if they even cared at all about them? Doesn't make sense because yes the history was rewritten just as even the present is being today right before our eyes along with history slandered, pulled down, and burned one by one.
I always thought it was unrealistic that they somehow convinced the Northerner's to potentially die themselves, and come down to free the black slaves. Why would they risk their lives for people they thought that they were better than, and potentially hated?? Massive racism still exists in the north today, as most of the race issues, and riots are in northern cities. I always think that every conflict in the history of man is about wealth, resources, and power... any other reason is just a bunch of BS in my opinion. I just don't believe the narrative.. I think the South was becoming too powerful, wealthy, with mass immigration of people leaving the harsh winters of the North.. and this was the time to strike and destroy the economy of the South. The economy of the South was destroyed for decades, and I think that was their motivation... not to free the slaves. So, I agree with you.. it has been rewritten in opinion as well.
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First time I ever heard actual facts that only a real civil war descendant would know!
Wow, this is an amazing and factual comment.
I very much agree. If people were to read the transcripts from the Lincoln/Douglas debate, they would see how the real Lincoln was. Lincoln agreed to allow both Missouri and Kentucky to be neutral. Shortly after his agreeing to Missouris neutrality, federal troops were killing St. Louis civilians. I got into it with a supervisor at Wilson's Creek Battlefield next to Springfield, Mo. over how they are changing history. He claimed that Mo. was never a confederate state. I informed him of the real history. Lincoln sent troops to take over the Mo. state capital after invading St Louis. The governor and top elected officials escaped. The governor ended up in SW MO at Neosho where he requested to join the confederacy due to Lincoln lying about allowing Mo. to be neutral and CSA president Davis welcomed Missouri. Mo was the 12th star on the confederate flag and Kentucky was the 13th. The supervisor at the Battlefield got really irked when I mentioned that a new Mo. government appointed by Lincoln was a false government since they were not elected by the people (quite a few people were there listening). I'm surprised that they haven't changed the victory of that battle at wilsons creek from the confederates to the union. Other than a very few with rich soil next to the Missouri River, most Missourians never owned slaves nor knew anybody who did. It takes 2 or more governments fighting over the takeover of the country for a civil war. The confederates didn't want to rule the country, but only to succeed as the constitution allowed and be on their own due to tyranny. The war was actually The War of Northern Aggression. Slavery was already decreasing due to new farming machinery at that time. Lincoln didn't have a slave but his wife Mary brought her own personal family slave with her when occupying the white house. Hell, the natives made slaves out of other tribe members prior to the Europeans ever setting foot in America. Blacks brought other blacks as slaves to put on the slave ships. Blacks owned blacks in the U.S. Then of course there was all the Caucasian slaves.
The Democratic Party hasn't changed much.
Greed does much damage
The open southern border, the push against voter ID laws...dose this not remind you of Bleeding Kansas, but on a national scale?
I never thought about it before but most people i know from MO do not like KS to this day. You can actually feel the difference when you leave the state of KS and return to the sweet springs and rolling hills of MO. Hard to explain i guess.
This is the absolute truth. Leaving kansas behind and entering Missouri or GODS COUNTRY.
I have always heard that University of Missouri basketball coach Norm Stewart would never spend a dime in Kansas. The team would stay in the KC area and then get bused to Lawrence, KS then straight back to Missouri. They wouldn’t stop for fuel or meals. Not sure if true but it’s a good story.
In Colorado they still make jokes about Texans losing the Battle of the Glorieta Pass in NM
Vice versa, for a guy from Maine, traveling through MO and OK to CA to visit family.
Honestly worse on way back...
Went though eastern OK to SC for sight seeing...
You'd think I was from Mars...😲✊🇺🇸
@@robertsettle2590 no its the opposite way for me i get jumpy in the great state of misery 🤠lol. i don't really know why but i don't care for that state of mo
Thanks for this profound lesson in American history. Very well done.
Man .... I know how ya feel ... 66 here and I know a have been round the block and over the mountains played a little army .... Then looked back at our own past and kinda gave me a belly ache. . . I love my country but damn we sure have been some mean nasty people and to each other to. .... Man I am sorry. ... May not have been me doing it to you and you didn't do it to me but I am sorry
Quantrill, Frank James and a gang of western men carrying several pistols each rode in to a Kansas town and shot all the men and robbed the houses but did not touch the woman. The next year's raid saw bloody bill Anderson leading the raid along with Jessy James. Quantrill thought Jessy James was too young for the first raid, however bloody bill Anderson thought different. Jessy James proved to be a good marksmen on his first raid, dispatching a few men during the beginning of the second " guerrilla" raid on the same Kansas town. Lawrence was the name of the Kansas town that was attacked twice.
you was there and saw it
The sacking of Lawrence happened twice,yes once before the firing at Ft. Sumter and then in August of '63.
The James boy you refer to spelt his name Jesse Woodson James. But he didn't have a part in either sacking, although he rode with "Bloody"Bill Anderson for about a year or more until Anderson bought the farm after the Centralia Massacre in September 27,1864.
James tried to surrender at the end of fighting, and was shot for his trouble.
Jesse
You left out the part about the Missouri Rangers women folk that had all been kidnapped and held prisoner by the US Army. The Army guards sabotaged the multi storied structure the women were held in. It collapsed killing./maiming most of the women.
Lawerance was base of terrorist operations aimed at Missouri. Why it was the target of the Missouri Rangers rage.
Kidnap and kill somebodies mom, wife, or sister?
WTF do you think the dudes going to do
let it go?
They hid in Colorado.