RR9924/C JEFFERSON: REUNION

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • (12 Jun 1999) SHOWS :
    RECENT, VARIOUS, USA
    USA, CHARLOTTESVILLE, RECENT: jib track from statue of Thomas Jefferson to front of Monticello, Jefferson's plantation house; family group assemble; tilt from white boy to black man; marble bust of Thomas Jefferson; tilt from tree to front of Monticello; black and white photographs of descendants of Eston Hemings; various family reunion exterior garden, Monticello; various exterior graveyard; portrait painting, Thomas Jefferson; Annette Gordon Reed walking down street; sot, English, Annette Gordon Reed, historian and law lecturer, New York University Law School; various shots diaries; various shots Thomas Jefferson's will; panning shots "The Recorder", newspaper; underground hallway, Monticello; general views visitors; various stills, slaves; actor playing slave playing flute; Jefferson statue; pan from flower to house; interiors Monticello; var stills, Isaac Jefferson, slave; var shots diaries; exterior Monticello; var shots DNA labs; establishing shot Dr Eugene Foster; sot, English, Dr Eugene Foster, pathologist (ret'd) formerly of University of Virginia; statue of Jefferson; various of Julia Jefferson Westerinen; sot, English, Julia Jefferson Westerinen, school teacher and descendant of Sally Hemings; Robert Gillespie at family graveyard of Jefferson, Monticello; sot, English, Robert Gillespie, president of Monticello Association; Lucien Truscott IV and family walk across lawn; sot, English, Lucien Truscott IV, member, Monticello Association; walking shot John Hubard and sister; sot, English, John Hubard, member, Monticello Association; walking shot Shay Banks Young and Julia Jefferson Westerinen; sot, English, Shay Banks Young; various exteriors Monticello; graveyard, Monticello; meeting of Monticello Association(APTN).
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 55

  • @whyputaname
    @whyputaname 5 років тому +5

    It would've been nice if when they uploaded this video they turned up the volume...

  • @goozy6790
    @goozy6790 5 років тому +4

    perfect time to reunite and forgive each other

  • @karelypena6931
    @karelypena6931 4 роки тому +3

    Why is the flute the loudest thing in this video?

  • @WilliamSaar-qn4uo
    @WilliamSaar-qn4uo 10 місяців тому +2

    Rather people like it or not Jefferson included blacks in American history im fasinated by Jefferson

  • @CajunA79
    @CajunA79 6 років тому +11

    The nerve of some of those white descendants giving them a hard time to be included!! I'd be outraged.

    • @kennyholeater2494
      @kennyholeater2494 5 років тому +1

      Racist!

    • @davidsondaini3999
      @davidsondaini3999 5 років тому

      But then. Why would any proud Black American want to be any part of this sort of a heritage by hook or crook ?

    • @LilBigBriggi
      @LilBigBriggi 5 років тому

      @@davidsondaini3999 maybe it is more about history and truth, than emotions and lies to the blacks, but while the whites who don't wanna accept them are still prefering emotions and lies, same like you seem to do.

  • @commonsense5125
    @commonsense5125 6 років тому +5

    As to your secret passage theory has any such passage been found at Monticello? I can find no report or record of one. Once again stories and rumors are not fact. If one is found then it would be another piece in the puzzle until then it cannot be used as proof of anything can it.

  • @commonsense5125
    @commonsense5125 6 років тому +1

    The Carr brothers were blamed by other people and so was Randolph. People both in the family and not said so in various accounts. So once again there is no way to know for sure until something new is found.

  • @Mamaosa63
    @Mamaosa63 5 років тому +1

    Why do you play such horrid horrendous music, noises, voices while narrating, blocking the voice of the narrator. Very poor editing👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿

  • @CajunA79
    @CajunA79 6 років тому +9

    Bi racials are some of the most beautiful people!

    • @kennyholeater2494
      @kennyholeater2494 5 років тому +1

      Ain't no colored folk in my family !

    • @bealoved6550
      @bealoved6550 5 років тому

      @@kennyholeater2494 😱I feel so, so sorry for you! You poor unfortunate soul! 😅😜

  • @commonsense5125
    @commonsense5125 6 років тому +1

    Having read the book you mention, and several others on the subject I still stand by my comments. Until more evidence comes to light there is no way at this point to say with certainty who fathered the children.

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 років тому +1

      Well should they dig up Jefferson and Eston is what you want? even if they did and proved, you nay sayers will say it was only Eston. We do not know where Madison is buried anymore, as his grave had no marker. Harriet and Beverly became "white," they (which under Virginia law legally they were white) married white people. They must have changed their names as genealogists have no idea where they went. they can't be traced by census records so they must have changed their names.

  • @commonsense5125
    @commonsense5125 6 років тому +1

    I would like to correct a mistake in my earlier post. The child's name was Eston not Eustace as I wrote. Also in reply to the below comments the evidence does not rule out only that he was not Sally's child it also rules out a Jefferson male as the father. Also as far as a "secret passage" between rooms that needs to be found, almost every house from that the 17 and 1800's that I have toured in the north and south is rumored to have one none of which has proven true over the years. So once again no solid evidence only conjecture and leaving out of all of the facts. And as to saying the reason for different DNA may have been introduced because of an affair is there any proof antecdal or otherwise for this? Once again we are back to my point there is no way to know any of this for certain. All facts need to be presented not just the ones that fit a certain narrative. If we are seeking the answer to a question everything has to be considered doesn't it?

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 років тому +3

      Eston was shown to be in the Jefferson male line by Y DNA. You are thinking of Thomas Woodson who had 5 lines of descendants who had the same story that he was Jefferson's son according to the Monticello association. Interestingly on myheritage website there is a family tree of descendants of Thomas Woodson all white BTW. They claim he was born in 1784 to Thomas Jefferson and his wife Martha Wayles Jefferson. That is not possible because she died in 1782 besides the fact he did not use the Jefferson last name. In doing more research I discovered there was a Mary Hemmings, Sally's half sister through their mother born around 1753ish, so about twenty years older than Sally. Mary's father was not Wayles, Elizabeth only became his concubine after he was a widower from his first wife. Elizabeth Hemmings had children with a slave man before she was Wayle's concubine and another child with a white man (Monticello overseer) after Wayle's death. Six of her 12 children were Wayles's. Mary Hemmings had a daughter in 1783 that she claimed was Thomas Jefferson's. In 1782 she had a son by another white man employed by Monticello and she gave him his last name. Some believe he was Jefferson's son too because Jefferson freed him in his will, but for him to carry this man's last name means this man openly recognized him as his. Otherwise he would have been called Hemmings. I think Thomas Woodson was Mary's son. Perhaps there was a possibly he was Jefferson's but since Mary had had a child carrying another man's last name it could be questionable. Sally appeared monogamous in her child bearing years. she never had a child when Jefferson had not been around 9 months before. The only report of her being with another man was given by the overseer hired when her youngest child, Eston was 6 or 8 years old. She would have been her early 40's and Jefferson in his early 70's. No Viagra back then you know, so I could see her possibly taking another partner if he was no longer interested and she was still in her prime. However, if she did, we know there were no more children.

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 років тому +2

      if the secret passage directly connected his room to a female servant yes you have to wonder. Of course we know secret passages were in many homes for many reasons. ) illicit affairs 2) underground railroad for helping slaves to escape 3) during the Tudor times in England they were used to hide catholic priests and 4) used by smugglers to hide transport of goods to evade being taxed. but if the passages only connect their 2 bedrooms it would be to hide their affair, otherwise it woudl have connected his room to his valet's room, not Sally.

  • @Tobysgmc
    @Tobysgmc 4 роки тому +1

    I just don't know if weezy would have made it through covid-19 dry cleaners are not open George should have moved out of the east side and started either a laundromat or open the Walmart

  • @kisha1682
    @kisha1682 5 років тому +3

    Oh, get over it lol

  • @commonsense5125
    @commonsense5125 6 років тому +1

    No I am not thinking of anyone else and yes Eston was proven by DNA to be a descendant of a male Jefferson of which as I said there are 8 possibilities. So until more evidence comes to light I think my point is proven, that there is no way of conclusively proving the father or fathers of her children and that all available evidence should be presented. Nothing you have brought up is any different from what I have read elsewhere, and you yourself point out the mistakes in it.

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 років тому +2

      No one is arguing with you on that. We all know it is only the Y DNA line proved. It just does not make sense the Carr brothers were blamed by the Randolph grandchildren instead of their Uncle Jefferson. That is the issue for over 150 years historians believed his grandchildren were telling the truth and they weren't. If they had named his brother instead few would be even wondering today.

  • @keywestjourno
    @keywestjourno 6 років тому +1

    Was this really produced by the AP?? There are numerous inaccuracies. The biggest of these is that Eston Hemings was shown to be the son of Thomas Jefferson by DNA "fingerprinting." In fact, DNA tests on the descendants of Eston Hemings showed only that Eston was related to "a Jefferson male." Thomas Jefferson's much younger brother was almost certainly at Monticello at the time Eston was conceived, probably with a few of his sons, three or four of whom were ages 18-26 and in their prime, sexually. People living in that era said it was well known that slave women liked people to believe that their children were the children of the master, rather than some no-name field hand -- or, in this case, a less-intelligent younger brother of the master.

    • @mcmulcat
      @mcmulcat 6 років тому +6

      That theory has been debunked by serious historians. Even Monticello acknowledges they had six children together.

    • @doreeb6314
      @doreeb6314 6 років тому

      So dumb, their appearance would prove that!!

    • @dorothya7740
      @dorothya7740 6 років тому +4

      Not true. Jefferson was away much of the time. When he was not there, no children were conceived by Sally. When Jefferson was around, Sally conceived.

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 років тому +2

      Carli, 3 of the 4 of Sally's children who lived to adulthood passed as white. that means their fathers were white men not field hands at least for those 3. Light skinned slaves were never used in the field. They were trained as house servants, or blacksmiths, weavers,etc. Madison Hemmings too must have been light skinned as there are photos of his descendants who identified as black circa 1900 and most look white, some do look "light" or "Hispanic" but none of them were even medium brown toned.

    • @commonsense5125
      @commonsense5125 6 років тому

      Good points

  • @jeffmode6526
    @jeffmode6526 5 років тому +1

    Thomas Jefferson disgust me. Sarah, "Sally" was smart to have got her 4 children a skill. She should have remained in France.
    When she went back to Virginia, she was done just like her Mother, Elizabeth, "Betty". The girl got three right back into the slave
    system. I'm glad for her children, that were given their freedom. Thomas Jefferson needed his butt kicked all over Virginia and
    America for what he did to Sarah. I wouldn't won't to be buried in his cemetary.