i was pulled over by a state trooper and given a paper warning for lane splitting . I was actually filtering and he was 3rd car from red light. doh! keep head on swivel, don’t pass cops like i did.
@allrealtexan5222 yea because that's what I said right? I said I don't want to leave california because the lane splitting law. I said that lol. Cmon man don't be stupid
Thanks for touching on this topic. The reasoning element of many laws is missing and education for politicians and public, particularly on this topic, is paramount.
Thx for letting me know about this new law. I have almost wrecked before when motorcycles have startled me as I’m going slower due to slow vehicle traffic! Scary! So, Where is the line between line splitting and line filtering? When/if either are necessary, and not just taking advantage of vehicular traffic moving slower than the motorcyclists want to go? They are both potentially dangerous for All. JMO.
filtering is when cars are stopped at lights. once traffic is moving, if the bike hasn’t made it to the front already, should just merge in traffic. its not dangerous for bikes. no one is changing lanes, lets the bike stay ahead of traffic and be seen. protect them from being rear ended. it’s not startling to motorists than panhandlers walking between cars. splitting is done on multilane highways when traffic is stop and go under 30mph. a little more dangerous as cars might be changing lanes. to be safe, splitters should keep a speed of less than 10-15 faster than traffic. here in texas, people spread out enough in stop and go that a bike can move forward without really splitting. if a rider passed you and it was startling to you, the. it was most likely illegal even in states where it’s legalized. it’s only for very slow moving, or non moving traffic scenarios. not blowing past people +30mph.
I grew up in California where splitting and filtering is legal and currently live in Utah where a few years ago they expressly legalized filtering and kept splitting illegal. I have mixed feelings on splitting but Filtering is a definite must. Keeps everyone safer and does have other traffic benefits
One of the few things I like about CA is we can lane split/filter here. On the other hand, any law that basically states, "Ride your motorcycle as if you were driving a car" makes things much less safe for motorcyclists.
Disagree. Lane splitting and filtering is incredibly nerve-wracking on the automobile driver. And when all the motorcycles have filtered to the front at a traffic light, by the time all over those motorcycles have cleared the intersection, sometimes there is only a few seconds for the four-wheeled vehicles to make the light. Lane filtering and lane splitting are convenient for motorcycles, but a pain in the ass for everyone else. And it is dangerous. There should be a yard (or meter) in between vehicles at a minimum for everyone's safety. Driving a motorcycle does not make you immortal. One false move, and it could be paralysis or game over. Motorcycles should be extra-careful and vigilant, not weaving willy-nilly through traffic, moving or otherwise.
@@jamesholden4571 I don't think you ride. I started riding several years ago and learned what is safest for me and it's not sitting between two cars. In fact, it's being as far away from cars as possible and I prefer not to ride in traffic but up in the hills & mountains. I also come from a family of motorcycle racers. I know how to be defensive out there and watch out for the crappy drivers who don't even look when they change lanes, run red lights and stop signs, etc.
@@williewasahippie That is absolutely correct. I do not ride. I will not ride. One could be the best motorcyclist ever, and you life is still in the hands of one crazy driver. Plus, I live in the Philippines, and the motorcycles drive like Kamikazes here. I used to like driving, but now I have to worry about every asshole on a bike doing insane things that tempt death. I have ridden by dead guys in the road. If someone does something insane and causes an accident, they will try to blame me - if they are still alive. I will fight them in court - I drive safely and obey the laws. The vast majority of motorcyclists here do not. My best friend died in his motorcycle in the US. He had a family and many friends, who mourned his loss. And he did not drive like Filipino motorcyclists. He did not lane split, he did not lane filter, he drove by the same laws that everyone is supposed to follow. People say they lane split for personal protection. Bullshit. They are just impatient. When lane filtering happens at a traffic light (which are often short in the Philippines), all the motorcycles filter to the front, and by the time they have cleared the intersection, the light often is already yellow, so we (driving cars) have to wait another 180 seconds, and then it might happen again. Motorcycles should share the road, not OWN the road. Here, I often see three people behind a driver, and a toddler standing in front of the driver. The law here says one passenger on the back. If you have a family, sell the hog and buy a cheap used car in which everyone can fit. It is crazy. The feeling of freedom that I always hear about ends when an accident happens. I would think that, if you have to drive a motorcycle at all, you would drive MORE defensively. There is not much between you and the pavement. Be well and safe.
@@jamesholden4571 My wife is Filipino and a nephew of hers died in the US when he got hit by a car changing lanes. Also, a relative of hers was in a coma for a few days in PI when he had a crash. He lives in the US and still rides. Yes, you are taking a chance riding in the US or anywhere (PI looks dangerous to drive or "walk" across the street in some places). We all die in the end and part of life is "living your life" and doing what you enjoy, not living in a box. Try doing different things that make you happy but understand the risks. I'm nearing retirement age and didn't ride all these years. My dad and uncle were motorcycle racers in the SF Bay Area. I wanted to be a racer too since the age of 4 but everyone said it was too dangerous to get a motorcycle (and the $$ for it was an issue). Also, I wanted to be a pro tennis player and getting into a crash was a risk I didn't want to take (although I did ride a scooter in high school). I've actually had more injuries riding a bicycle than a motorcycle. Anyway, people just need to train really well and understand the risks. Perhaps, only ride where there are not many cars. I don't ride to commute. I ride for enjoyment and mental health. Be safe out there as well. Thanks for your comments. Salamat! -Willie
I live in Toronto where lane splitting is illegal. I think lane splitting while cars are moving is incredibly dangerous. However, when it comes to lane filtering to a red light in traffic. I absolutely do that when I ride. It's about education, and most ppl driving cars have no idea how unsafe it is for a motorcycle to be stuck in traffic. Us lane filtering has NO IMPACT on other drivers. If anything, we are one less vehicle in traffic. Most of the drivers who get angry, are just jealous that they can't lane filter.
I think it’s funny how you guys rationalize this as a safety tactic rather than just admit that you want to be able to pass traffic. You even brought up the jealousy card, showing you admit it’s an advantage for bikers in skirting traffic. Being in front of a bunch of cars doesn’t make you any safer at the front of the stopped traffic than the middle. You can still get hit from behind. You also stand a good chance of hitting someone else, as you never know if a car is going to move into you as you try to pass them.
@@F16_viper_pilot Us lane filtering has absolutely NO BEARING on you as a driver in car. If anything, we are one less vehicle in traffic for you to deal with. And if you think being stuck in the midst of cars is the same as being ahead of them... well then obviously you have never ridden a motorcycle in traffic.
@@Mofo9911 Yeah it does have a bearing on us car and truck drivers, and you’re not one less vehicle on the road; rather, you’re one more distraction to have to keep track of as you zip around us. If you don’t know that, then obviously you’ve never driven a car or truck.
@@F16_viper_pilotYour car has air conditioning but motorcycles do not. Riders wear safety clothes even in summer and it gets hot when not moving. It gets too hot sitting there in traffic. That's why I'm for lane filtering in traffic. If you rode a motorcycle your mind would change about the law. You would understand how hot it gets and how dangerous that could be.
Nothing like a politician looking to make a name, taking rights away. Lane filtering should be a must in all states. I can do without splitting though.
@@F16_viper_pilot The founding fathers lane split on their horses. The man tried to take that right away, however, in the mid 19th century, which is what led to the civil war. Abraham Lincoln wrote into law that splitting was unconstitutional, but lane splitting was the foundation of the southern economy. Although the confederacy lost the war, it was still culturally ingrained in the south. This cultural resistance combined with the failed post war reconstruction led to organizations such as the KKK lane splitting, despite its unlawfulness. The KKK's moto for lane splitting was Kindly, Kuickly, and Kuietly and they continued to lane split all through the 20th century. Lane splitting had its origins in the Democratic South but even in recent times, such as the Civil Splitting Movement in the 1960s, the Democratic party still posed a resistance.
@@NoesKicker Hahaha….great work of fiction! And your source would be? Btw, we are talking about motor vehicles, structured roads with traffic signs and lights, registered vehicles, and licenses to use the roadways as a privilege, not a right. We aren’t talking about dirt roads, with no lanes, no signs, unregistered horses, and unlicensed riders where riding a horse was a right not a privilege. Are you one of those sovereign citizen types where your arguments always fail in court? Don’t give up your day job to pursue law or history teaching.🤣🤣🤣
@@F16_viper_pilot How did you know I was a sovereign citizen who always goes to court and fails my arguments??? Also, jokes on you! I don't have a job! Ha! Anyway, I'm glad you were able to deduce that my comment was fiction. You, my friend, are a genius!
start a PAC. elect a leader. create a website. start a fund me to pay for website and collect donations. find a receptive Texas State Rep (hopefully with a reputation that can get a bill passed). modify a bill recently passed by another state (Minnesota), find a deep pocketed TX motorcycle rider to bribe said State rep to submit bill. Lobby all other reps that motorcyclists are indeed voters, and its in their best interest to vote YAY on the bill. Get news and media to put a positive spin on practice of splitting and filtering. wait years for the bill to make it the docket. Hold a rally at capitol before bill is presented for voting. Bill is passed, wait years to be implemented. simple plan right?!? LOL Don't mean to be discouraging, but it would require a significant amount of effort to rally the squids and harley bros to support.
The worst of the congestion lasted up to 48 hours, with motorists encased for whole 24 hours along the stretch from Dallas to Galveston main evacuation route.
When traffic is barely moving I agree with lane splitting. 1. For the riders safety so they don't get hit from behind. 2. Motorcyclists don't have air conditioning. They rely on moving for their A/C, and riders have to/or should wear safety jackets even in summer. So it gets hot wearing that gear in hot weather while people in cars have their air conditioning. 3. Limited gasoline. Motorcycles only hold a few gallons of gas. They need to fill up more often then cars. Forced to sit in traffic with a low tank is not good for the motorcyclist. Lane splitting does cause problems which is why I believe they passed the law against it. 1. Motorcycles were driving too fast through traffic and too many accidents. 2. Causes too much road rage situations.
Good points. The #2 problem, I just have not seen or experienced it other than being pulled over or waved at by cops. In recent podcast from revzilla they even mentioned negativity towards lane splitting/filtering seems to have calmed down. It may be anecdotal, but the increase in anger towards congestion, and people distracted by phones, is much worse than a 2-wheeler taking a small advantage. IMHO, the biggest negativity towards splitting is it just scares some people when they witness it the first time. If more riders did it, that would no longer be an issue.
@@flip_moto I believe if they would educate all drivers about the safety of motorcycles and why lane filtering is necessary then it would reduce a lot of the tension we see from car drivers. Car drivers are not educated about motorcycle safety therefore they don't care. Sad. I'm 49 and just started riding a few months ago. It's never bothered me seeing motorcycles filtering during traffic. I've always envied them but in a good way. It's only now that I'm a rider myself that I see and understand what motorcyclist go through. Especially the heat. Wearing all that safety gear makes it hot when not moving.
To the public none motorcyclist they hear lan splitting and they picture a sport bike going Mach 69 between them. And the problem is that does happen. I’ve tried to explain to people the whole reason why it’s safer and actually helps them since we’re not apart of the traffic jam bla bla they done care. They just imagine that sport bike. Also they don’t like it, they think “that’s not fair”.
yeah i agree the people that split on highways at insane speeds screw it up for a lot of us - and it’s usually for the views on IG and tiktok. it’s not talent, it’s stupid, just go to the track and pass other bikes on track. lol. because they can’t
I'm new to Texas...just moved from Los Angeles and to the people that are against Lane spitting....your life don't mean nothing neither then....yall piece of you know whats...
I think lane splitting is stupid but lane filtering makes sense. I have yet to hear about what is the rule for when you've filtered to the traffic intersection. Is the motorcycle supposed to drag race other motorists? As an EV owner I can make it a drag race that is unsafe for any motocyclist. As a motorcyclist I don't want to be the entitled prick, I'm happy to have the safety of not being squished in a rear collision and do what's best in the case of leaving the intersection.
Yeah i wish norms can decipher the difference between filtering and splitting. Filtering is 100% positive improvement for everyone. Splitting under 30mph is good. Riders who split anytime, any where, at stupid speeds, fuck it up for all of us. The 'entitled' thing is a rough argument. From a non motorcycle POV, it does seem like cheating or rule breaking, but filtering is safer.
@@flip_motogood luck with that attitude, there are people out there that also have that attitude as cagers and intentionally put riders breaking the rules in O-$h!t stage. Keep that in mind, cagers are not saints either.
I really don’t care I will still split at intersections better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 this is stupid and much like people going 80 in a 55 in Cali if enough people do it it becomes law because you can’t stop everyone so police quit trying to
Exactly. People in cars have air conditioner. Motorcyclist are generally wearing safety jackets even in summer months. It's too hot to sit there burning in the sun.
The safety of lane-splitting is totally up to the rider on the motorcycle I'm here in California and I see guys just ripping down the middle you are asking for trouble, I know this because I used to be that guy but I'm old now my reflexes aren't that good so I keep things on the slower side. I call it "SANESPLITTING" But as for Texas Banning it outright that is just evil, get ready for a lot of rear end collisions involving motorcycles. And I suspect some will be killed way2go Texas.😢
I am confused about lane filtering vs lane splitting I get filtering is when the cars are stopped and you're moving up in between then where as splitting is while the cars are moving. But doesn't that force a situation where you're lane splitting? Like sure they're stopped while the light is red but then what happens when it goes green? Or what if you got there late into the red and it turns green and suddenly you're lane splitting? But even if you're both stopped at the red light as soon as it turns green the car will start moving and then suddenly you're lane splitting? I don't ride motorcycles so I have no idea how this all works but the logic seems flawed or I am missing something crucial
with filtering in the US, there is so few of us we do 1 of 2 things. If both cars are pulled up to the line, sit between the two until green and then take off quicker into a single lane ahead of the slower car. this is super easy because most Americans are distracted and don’t pull away quickly. This also allows the motorcyclist to ride ahead of traffic, is highly visible and no longer in people’s blind spots. 2nd is even easier, it’s very common for one of the vehicles to leave enough space in the lane for a bike to fit ahead. I like to sit between vehicles as that gives some what protection from cross traffic during an incident. now if you caught in the middle and it green, you just slide into a lane that has room. at slow speeds it rather easy and safe. hope that helps.
When done properly, it ensures the safety of a rider from being crushed between what's approaching rapidly from behind and what's stopped in front. When you have people who will bury the speedo and tach doing it, that's when $h!t laws like this happen cause they get killed, and maybe some other's, or at the very least seriously injured, and they wouldn't know people are doing it as much as they do now, cause people like to tell on themselves by uploading to social media and for some reason think the right / wrong people aren't going to see it ( I am guilty of the same / similar, and I don't ride like I'm 16 anymore either, or at least I don't tell on myself anymore ).
Thank God that Texas has banned splitting/filtering! Y’all are so arrogant and unsafe while doing it. Do you y’all realize that cars have major blind spots? And when y’all are racing down the road, you are endangering your life and others. On filtering, it’s an asshole move, what gives you a right to move past everyone else that has to wait? I have zero empathy or sympathy for any biker who is driving like a bat out of hell and decided to lane split and gets into an accident, ZERO. Now that I know that lane splitting is truly illegal I have a dashcam, I will gladly take the time out of my day to record you and hand over the video to the police.
As someone who lives in a state that doesn't allow Lane splitting or Filtering, when splitting or filtering who's at fault if you hit or get hit by someone, especially when it's those real close narrow car splits?
Splitting definitely needs to stay illegal in Texas. Drivers here are horrible and getting worse. Doing that here in Texas ups your risk 10 fold. There is no way anyone could convince me otherwise. I commute to work every single day on a motorcycle and then I drive city traffic in a vehicle for 8-10 straight hours and I've been doing this for 25 years straight in the DFW metroplex. It is not safe to split here.
Thanks for the info. I'm happy this law is in place. It's not a contradiction that cops can still use the maneuver. The issue is that bikers are maniacs. It's ridiculous to think that people buying bikes has a significant effect on traffic. It's just a bunch of dangerous lunatics driving their bikes through red lights and whatever they feel like. If you're gonna play the safety card, spare me your bleeding heart and sell the bike.
Neither lane splitting or lane filtering are safe practices. I ride too, but you will never convince me that either practice is safe or better for the motorcyclist. The ONLY reason biker's justify it is so you can "cut ahead in line". Being behind a car at a stop, there are STILL safe places to stop to leave yourself an escape route. The bull excuses made are just because you want to get ahead of other drivers and drive like a fool. Texas says it's now specifically illegal. Sucks to be you. The vast majority of states say it's not legal either. I hope they have instituted stiff penalties for doing it. Repeat offenders should lose the privilage of driving. It's an unsafe practice and is a potential for causing wrecks. Just like the fools who play on their phones while driving.
harsh dude. I am 100% firm that riding ahead of traffic instead of being IN traffic is safer for the rider, and filtering is a big plus to do that. better to be seen, than side swiped into with no protection
@@flip_moto You can be sideswiped in front of that car you are splitting on, by another car. There is no safety feature added. Please do not splat yourself on the pavement.
Good for texas, in my opinion lane splitting/filtering should be illegal as it only increases the risk to the motorcyclist and other motorists on the road while only marginally benefitting the motorcyclist
Agreed the people that want to split lanes don't think about how theyre living blind spot to blind spot. If i'm changing lanes and there's a motorcycle in my blind spot I'm not going to see him as he speeds up into my rear quarter panel trying to split and pass. Just a dangerous and overall avoidable situation.
You obviously don't understand what filtering is. It is when there is stopped traffic, you can filter to the front to avoid getting rear-ended. Remember car vs Motorcycle = no Bueno even at slow speeds. It protects motorcyclist. Splitting is not the same thing.
@@TheCoax77 honestly cagers are so ignorant they can’t get past the mindset that their 5000lbs truck that destroys the roads while they have nothing in the bed is worse for traffic worse for their wallets and worse for their health. I don’t support splitting through traffic at 100mph but I do believe that splitting is essential when SUVs and trucks have huge blind spots. I’ve been merged into on the highway more times than I can count while going the speed limit. Simply because people are too lazy to check their mirrors. Filtering also encourages people to use motorcycles instead of cars which greatly reduces traffic. When I filter i help both myself and the car drivers that’s what I feel like many people don’t understand
@@-festive-6342 Yea I'm not really against splitting but I feel like Filtering is a must. I live in Colorado where its all illegal. So I dream of a day when I don't have to worry about getting hit from behind.
@@yongyea4147are you talking about the same California that has legal lane splitting? With the complete opposite of what this Texas bill is about. Also “what you blue haired voters get.” Doesn’t make sense when the bill was written and sponsored by a republican congressman. Maybe you should educate yourself before saying anything on the internet.
So you are assuming that only democrats ride?? Sorry I'm a republican that lives in North Texas and I think this law is bull s@!#. You are probably one of those people who's mirror I jacked up because you tried to kill me on the road.
Wearing a helmet gives a false sense of safety. Wearing no helmet gives the rider a better sense of the risk. Also, it's my body. My choice. I am not afraid of death. I will die someday. It's inevetible. What I fear is being a vegetable. If a helmet saves me from dying, but breaks my neck so I can't move.... I'll become my own surgeon and reconnect my spine just to kick your ass for passing the law.
I’m in Austin and I won’t stop!
Can’t stop won’t stop
i was pulled over by a state trooper and given a paper warning for lane splitting . I was actually filtering and he was 3rd car from red light. doh!
keep head on swivel, don’t pass cops like i did.
@@flip_moto yeah I always try to check for a cop.
100 percent agree with your view on this matter
Moving from ca to tx soon. No LS is gonna suuuuck
You should stay in California
Act ignorant.
@@YouT860 right? Lol
@@jtbasic I mean if you dont want to leave Cali because of the difference in lane splitting laws you should stay in California then. Logic.
@allrealtexan5222 yea because that's what I said right? I said I don't want to leave california because the lane splitting law. I said that lol. Cmon man don't be stupid
Thanks for touching on this topic. The reasoning element of many laws is missing and education for politicians and public, particularly on this topic, is paramount.
Thx for letting me know about this new law. I have almost wrecked before when motorcycles have startled me as I’m going slower due to slow vehicle traffic! Scary! So, Where is the line between line splitting and line filtering? When/if either are necessary, and not just taking advantage of vehicular traffic moving slower than the motorcyclists want to go? They are both potentially dangerous for All. JMO.
filtering is when cars are stopped at lights. once traffic is moving, if the bike hasn’t made it to the front already, should just merge in traffic. its not dangerous for bikes. no one is changing lanes, lets the bike stay ahead of traffic and be seen. protect them from being rear ended. it’s not startling to motorists than panhandlers walking between cars.
splitting is done on multilane
highways when traffic is stop and go under 30mph. a little more dangerous as cars might be changing lanes. to be safe, splitters should keep a speed of less than 10-15 faster than traffic. here in texas, people spread out enough in stop and go that a bike can move forward without really splitting.
if a rider passed you and it was startling to you, the. it was most likely illegal even in states where it’s legalized. it’s only for very slow moving, or non moving traffic scenarios. not blowing past people +30mph.
States that ban lane filtering or lane splitting right… Only police officers on duty can legally lane filter with their motorcycle 😡 Now WTF is that
Animal Farm IRL. That's what.
I grew up in California where splitting and filtering is legal and currently live in Utah where a few years ago they expressly legalized filtering and kept splitting illegal. I have mixed feelings on splitting but Filtering is a definite must. Keeps everyone safer and does have other traffic benefits
Just getting out of my neighborhood in the morning without filtering would give my clutch hand Carpal tunnel before I was half way to work…. 😢
One of the few things I like about CA is we can lane split/filter here. On the other hand, any law that basically states, "Ride your motorcycle as if you were driving a car" makes things much less safe for motorcyclists.
Disagree. Lane splitting and filtering is incredibly nerve-wracking on the automobile driver. And when all the motorcycles have filtered to the front at a traffic light, by the time all over those motorcycles have cleared the intersection, sometimes there is only a few seconds for the four-wheeled vehicles to make the light. Lane filtering and lane splitting are convenient for motorcycles, but a pain in the ass for everyone else. And it is dangerous. There should be a yard (or meter) in between vehicles at a minimum for everyone's safety.
Driving a motorcycle does not make you immortal. One false move, and it could be paralysis or game over. Motorcycles should be extra-careful and vigilant, not weaving willy-nilly through traffic, moving or otherwise.
@@jamesholden4571 I don't think you ride. I started riding several years ago and learned what is safest for me and it's not sitting between two cars. In fact, it's being as far away from cars as possible and I prefer not to ride in traffic but up in the hills & mountains. I also come from a family of motorcycle racers. I know how to be defensive out there and watch out for the crappy drivers who don't even look when they change lanes, run red lights and stop signs, etc.
@@williewasahippie That is absolutely correct. I do not ride. I will not ride. One could be the best motorcyclist ever, and you life is still in the hands of one crazy driver. Plus, I live in the Philippines, and the motorcycles drive like Kamikazes here. I used to like driving, but now I have to worry about every asshole on a bike doing insane things that tempt death. I have ridden by dead guys in the road. If someone does something insane and causes an accident, they will try to blame me - if they are still alive. I will fight them in court - I drive safely and obey the laws. The vast majority of motorcyclists here do not.
My best friend died in his motorcycle in the US. He had a family and many friends, who mourned his loss. And he did not drive like Filipino motorcyclists. He did not lane split, he did not lane filter, he drove by the same laws that everyone is supposed to follow.
People say they lane split for personal protection. Bullshit. They are just impatient.
When lane filtering happens at a traffic light (which are often short in the Philippines), all the motorcycles filter to the front, and by the time they have cleared the intersection, the light often is already yellow, so we (driving cars) have to wait another 180 seconds, and then it might happen again. Motorcycles should share the road, not OWN the road.
Here, I often see three people behind a driver, and a toddler standing in front of the driver. The law here says one passenger on the back. If you have a family, sell the hog and buy a cheap used car in which everyone can fit. It is crazy.
The feeling of freedom that I always hear about ends when an accident happens. I would think that, if you have to drive a motorcycle at all, you would drive MORE defensively. There is not much between you and the pavement. Be well and safe.
@@jamesholden4571 My wife is Filipino and a nephew of hers died in the US when he got hit by a car changing lanes. Also, a relative of hers was in a coma for a few days in PI when he had a crash. He lives in the US and still rides. Yes, you are taking a chance riding in the US or anywhere (PI looks dangerous to drive or "walk" across the street in some places). We all die in the end and part of life is "living your life" and doing what you enjoy, not living in a box. Try doing different things that make you happy but understand the risks. I'm nearing retirement age and didn't ride all these years. My dad and uncle were motorcycle racers in the SF Bay Area. I wanted to be a racer too since the age of 4 but everyone said it was too dangerous to get a motorcycle (and the $$ for it was an issue). Also, I wanted to be a pro tennis player and getting into a crash was a risk I didn't want to take (although I did ride a scooter in high school). I've actually had more injuries riding a bicycle than a motorcycle. Anyway, people just need to train really well and understand the risks. Perhaps, only ride where there are not many cars. I don't ride to commute. I ride for enjoyment and mental health. Be safe out there as well. Thanks for your comments. Salamat! -Willie
Then drive a car.
I live in Toronto where lane splitting is illegal. I think lane splitting while cars are moving is incredibly dangerous. However, when it comes to lane filtering to a red light in traffic. I absolutely do that when I ride. It's about education, and most ppl driving cars have no idea how unsafe it is for a motorcycle to be stuck in traffic. Us lane filtering has NO IMPACT on other drivers. If anything, we are one less vehicle in traffic. Most of the drivers who get angry, are just jealous that they can't lane filter.
Everything is illegal in communist countries
I think it’s funny how you guys rationalize this as a safety tactic rather than just admit that you want to be able to pass traffic. You even brought up the jealousy card, showing you admit it’s an advantage for bikers in skirting traffic. Being in front of a bunch of cars doesn’t make you any safer at the front of the stopped traffic than the middle. You can still get hit from behind. You also stand a good chance of hitting someone else, as you never know if a car is going to move into you as you try to pass them.
@@F16_viper_pilot Us lane filtering has absolutely NO BEARING on you as a driver in car. If anything, we are one less vehicle in traffic for you to deal with. And if you think being stuck in the midst of cars is the same as being ahead of them... well then obviously you have never ridden a motorcycle in traffic.
@@Mofo9911 Yeah it does have a bearing on us car and truck drivers, and you’re not one less vehicle on the road; rather, you’re one more distraction to have to keep track of as you zip around us. If you don’t know that, then obviously you’ve never driven a car or truck.
@@F16_viper_pilotYour car has air conditioning but motorcycles do not. Riders wear safety clothes even in summer and it gets hot when not moving. It gets too hot sitting there in traffic. That's why I'm for lane filtering in traffic.
If you rode a motorcycle your mind would change about the law. You would understand how hot it gets and how dangerous that could be.
Nothing like a politician looking to make a name, taking rights away. Lane filtering should be a must in all states. I can do without splitting though.
Where are you getting the notion that it’s a “right”?
@@F16_viper_pilot The founding fathers lane split on their horses. The man tried to take that right away, however, in the mid 19th century, which is what led to the civil war. Abraham Lincoln wrote into law that splitting was unconstitutional, but lane splitting was the foundation of the southern economy. Although the confederacy lost the war, it was still culturally ingrained in the south. This cultural resistance combined with the failed post war reconstruction led to organizations such as the KKK lane splitting, despite its unlawfulness. The KKK's moto for lane splitting was Kindly, Kuickly, and Kuietly and they continued to lane split all through the 20th century. Lane splitting had its origins in the Democratic South but even in recent times, such as the Civil Splitting Movement in the 1960s, the Democratic party still posed a resistance.
@@NoesKicker Hahaha….great work of fiction! And your source would be?
Btw, we are talking about motor vehicles, structured roads with traffic signs and lights, registered vehicles, and licenses to use the roadways as a privilege, not a right. We aren’t talking about dirt roads, with no lanes, no signs, unregistered horses, and unlicensed riders where riding a horse was a right not a privilege.
Are you one of those sovereign citizen types where your arguments always fail in court? Don’t give up your day job to pursue law or history teaching.🤣🤣🤣
@@F16_viper_pilot How did you know I was a sovereign citizen who always goes to court and fails my arguments???
Also, jokes on you! I don't have a job! Ha!
Anyway, I'm glad you were able to deduce that my comment was fiction. You, my friend, are a genius!
@@NoesKicker 😂
What actions could be taken to propose filtering legalization?
How can we come together to get filtering legal?
start a PAC. elect a leader. create a website. start a fund me to pay for website and collect donations. find a receptive Texas State Rep (hopefully with a reputation that can get a bill passed). modify a bill recently passed by another state (Minnesota), find a deep pocketed TX motorcycle rider to bribe said State rep to submit bill. Lobby all other reps that motorcyclists are indeed voters, and its in their best interest to vote YAY on the bill. Get news and media to put a positive spin on practice of splitting and filtering. wait years for the bill to make it the docket. Hold a rally at capitol before bill is presented for voting. Bill is passed, wait years to be implemented.
simple plan right?!? LOL
Don't mean to be discouraging, but it would require a significant amount of effort to rally the squids and harley bros to support.
If you don't filter and then have a heat stroke or get rear ended by someone, sue the state.
There should be no law against filtering because of need for escape path to safe place
The worst of the congestion lasted up to 48 hours, with motorists encased for whole 24 hours along the stretch from Dallas to Galveston main evacuation route.
RG gots to go!! Lane filtering should not be outlawed..
When traffic is barely moving I agree with lane splitting.
1. For the riders safety so they don't get hit from behind.
2. Motorcyclists don't have air conditioning. They rely on moving for their A/C, and riders have to/or should wear safety jackets even in summer. So it gets hot wearing that gear in hot weather while people in cars have their air conditioning.
3. Limited gasoline. Motorcycles only hold a few gallons of gas. They need to fill up more often then cars. Forced to sit in traffic with a low tank is not good for the motorcyclist.
Lane splitting does cause problems which is why I believe they passed the law against it.
1. Motorcycles were driving too fast through traffic and too many accidents.
2. Causes too much road rage situations.
Good points. The #2 problem, I just have not seen or experienced it other than being pulled over or waved at by cops. In recent podcast from revzilla they even mentioned negativity towards lane splitting/filtering seems to have calmed down. It may be anecdotal, but the increase in anger towards congestion, and people distracted by phones, is much worse than a 2-wheeler taking a small advantage. IMHO, the biggest negativity towards splitting is it just scares some people when they witness it the first time. If more riders did it, that would no longer be an issue.
@@flip_moto I believe if they would educate all drivers about the safety of motorcycles and why lane filtering is necessary then it would reduce a lot of the tension we see from car drivers. Car drivers are not educated about motorcycle safety therefore they don't care. Sad.
I'm 49 and just started riding a few months ago. It's never bothered me seeing motorcycles filtering during traffic. I've always envied them but in a good way. It's only now that I'm a rider myself that I see and understand what motorcyclist go through. Especially the heat. Wearing all that safety gear makes it hot when not moving.
@@AceGoodheart kudos to starting late. i started late myself, early forties. though i did dabble in dirt bikes in the teens.
To the public none motorcyclist they hear lan splitting and they picture a sport bike going Mach 69 between them. And the problem is that does happen. I’ve tried to explain to people the whole reason why it’s safer and actually helps them since we’re not apart of the traffic jam bla bla they done care. They just imagine that sport bike. Also they don’t like it, they think “that’s not fair”.
yeah i agree the people that split on highways at insane speeds screw it up for a lot of us - and it’s usually for the views on IG and tiktok. it’s not talent, it’s stupid, just go to the track and pass other bikes on track. lol. because they can’t
Lane splitting and Lane filtering is a risk motorcyclists can take. They are not my responsibility.
I'm new to Texas...just moved from Los Angeles and to the people that are against Lane spitting....your life don't mean nothing neither then....yall piece of you know whats...
Filtering and splitting should be legal in all 50 states.
Part of the issue is that the squids like to pass between cars at high rates of speed.
That’s splitting though. No reason filtering should be illegal.
@@nomadismileseeker6611 And sadly that's probably what changed all the laws for motorcyclist. Their reckless driving messed it up for all riders.
Had a rider lane filter recently, then he was all surprised and mad when I did it too. What's that about the goose and the gander?
Agree.
I think lane splitting is stupid but lane filtering makes sense. I have yet to hear about what is the rule for when you've filtered to the traffic intersection. Is the motorcycle supposed to drag race other motorists? As an EV owner I can make it a drag race that is unsafe for any motocyclist. As a motorcyclist I don't want to be the entitled prick, I'm happy to have the safety of not being squished in a rear collision and do what's best in the case of leaving the intersection.
Yeah i wish norms can decipher the difference between filtering and splitting. Filtering is 100% positive improvement for everyone. Splitting under 30mph is good. Riders who split anytime, any where, at stupid speeds, fuck it up for all of us. The 'entitled' thing is a rough argument. From a non motorcycle POV, it does seem like cheating or rule breaking, but filtering is safer.
@@flip_motogood luck with that attitude, there are people out there that also have that attitude as cagers and intentionally put riders breaking the rules in O-$h!t stage. Keep that in mind, cagers are not saints either.
Stupid result, lane filtering should be allowed.
8 months and i still don’t give a shit . still doing it
I really don’t care I will still split at intersections better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 this is stupid and much like people going 80 in a 55 in Cali if enough people do it it becomes law because you can’t stop everyone so police quit trying to
I won’t stop. I’m not sitting in traffic cooking myself any my bike.
Exactly. People in cars have air conditioner. Motorcyclist are generally wearing safety jackets even in summer months. It's too hot to sit there burning in the sun.
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen🤣
The safety of lane-splitting is totally up to the rider on the motorcycle I'm here in California and I see guys just ripping down the middle you are asking for trouble, I know this because I used to be that guy but I'm old now my reflexes aren't that good so I keep things on the slower side.
I call it
"SANESPLITTING"
But as for Texas Banning it outright that is just evil, get ready for a lot of rear end collisions involving motorcycles. And I suspect some will be killed way2go Texas.😢
Passing new laws is nothing to be proud of.
I lane filter anyway.
Ambiguous part was hilarious. I though I was seeing things for a sec
I wear a helmet and seat belt by choice. But I don't think it should be anyone's business if I do or not. My body my choice right?
I am confused about lane filtering vs lane splitting I get filtering is when the cars are stopped and you're moving up in between then where as splitting is while the cars are moving. But doesn't that force a situation where you're lane splitting? Like sure they're stopped while the light is red but then what happens when it goes green? Or what if you got there late into the red and it turns green and suddenly you're lane splitting? But even if you're both stopped at the red light as soon as it turns green the car will start moving and then suddenly you're lane splitting? I don't ride motorcycles so I have no idea how this all works but the logic seems flawed or I am missing something crucial
with filtering in the US, there is so few of us we do 1 of 2 things. If both cars are pulled up to the line, sit between the two until green and then take off quicker into a single lane ahead of the slower car. this is super easy because most Americans are distracted and don’t pull away quickly. This also allows the motorcyclist to ride ahead of traffic, is highly visible and no longer in people’s blind spots. 2nd is even easier, it’s very common for one of the vehicles to leave enough space in the lane for a bike to fit ahead. I like to sit between vehicles as that gives some what protection from cross traffic during an incident.
now if you caught in the middle and it green, you just slide into a lane that has room. at slow speeds it rather easy and safe.
hope that helps.
When done properly, it ensures the safety of a rider from being crushed between what's approaching rapidly from behind and what's stopped in front. When you have people who will bury the speedo and tach doing it, that's when $h!t laws like this happen cause they get killed, and maybe some other's, or at the very least seriously injured, and they wouldn't know people are doing it as much as they do now, cause people like to tell on themselves by uploading to social media and for some reason think the right / wrong people aren't going to see it ( I am guilty of the same / similar, and I don't ride like I'm 16 anymore either, or at least I don't tell on myself anymore ).
Thank God that Texas has banned splitting/filtering! Y’all are so arrogant and unsafe while doing it. Do you y’all realize that cars have major blind spots? And when y’all are racing down the road, you are endangering your life and others. On filtering, it’s an asshole move, what gives you a right to move past everyone else that has to wait? I have zero empathy or sympathy for any biker who is driving like a bat out of hell and decided to lane split and gets into an accident, ZERO. Now that I know that lane splitting is truly illegal I have a dashcam, I will gladly take the time out of my day to record you and hand over the video to the police.
As someone who lives in a state that doesn't allow Lane splitting or Filtering, when splitting or filtering who's at fault if you hit or get hit by someone, especially when it's those real close narrow car splits?
Depending on each of the state laws for which party will get their percentage at fault.
The car should have 0% liability - it is a reckless practice.
@jamesholden4571 you need a brain 🤣
Splitting definitely needs to stay illegal in Texas. Drivers here are horrible and getting worse. Doing that here in Texas ups your risk 10 fold. There is no way anyone could convince me otherwise. I commute to work every single day on a motorcycle and then I drive city traffic in a vehicle for 8-10 straight hours and I've been doing this for 25 years straight in the DFW metroplex. It is not safe to split here.
Thanks for the info. I'm happy this law is in place. It's not a contradiction that cops can still use the maneuver. The issue is that bikers are maniacs. It's ridiculous to think that people buying bikes has a significant effect on traffic. It's just a bunch of dangerous lunatics driving their bikes through red lights and whatever they feel like. If you're gonna play the safety card, spare me your bleeding heart and sell the bike.
OMG You are all maniacs and lunatics! - LOL - might want check yourself into the retirement home if you haven't already
You should be able to do both filter or splitting the lane
Money money money
Neither lane splitting or lane filtering are safe practices. I ride too, but you will never convince me that either practice is safe or better for the motorcyclist. The ONLY reason biker's justify it is so you can "cut ahead in line". Being behind a car at a stop, there are STILL safe places to stop to leave yourself an escape route. The bull excuses made are just because you want to get ahead of other drivers and drive like a fool. Texas says it's now specifically illegal. Sucks to be you. The vast majority of states say it's not legal either. I hope they have instituted stiff penalties for doing it. Repeat offenders should lose the privilage of driving. It's an unsafe practice and is a potential for causing wrecks. Just like the fools who play on their phones while driving.
harsh dude. I am 100% firm that riding ahead of traffic instead of being IN traffic is safer for the rider, and filtering is a big plus to do that. better to be seen, than side swiped into with no protection
Bro just wants to get rear ended at a red light 💀
Who else calls driving riding? This guy! Sounds like a poser who was never ridden a day in his life. What a poser
@@flip_moto You can be sideswiped in front of that car you are splitting on, by another car. There is no safety feature added. Please do not splat yourself on the pavement.
Good for texas, in my opinion lane splitting/filtering should be illegal as it only increases the risk to the motorcyclist and other motorists on the road while only marginally benefitting the motorcyclist
You’re wrong but okay
Agreed the people that want to split lanes don't think about how theyre living blind spot to blind spot. If i'm changing lanes and there's a motorcycle in my blind spot I'm not going to see him as he speeds up into my rear quarter panel trying to split and pass. Just a dangerous and overall avoidable situation.
You obviously don't understand what filtering is. It is when there is stopped traffic, you can filter to the front to avoid getting rear-ended. Remember car vs Motorcycle = no Bueno even at slow speeds. It protects motorcyclist. Splitting is not the same thing.
@@TheCoax77 honestly cagers are so ignorant they can’t get past the mindset that their 5000lbs truck that destroys the roads while they have nothing in the bed is worse for traffic worse for their wallets and worse for their health. I don’t support splitting through traffic at 100mph but I do believe that splitting is essential when SUVs and trucks have huge blind spots. I’ve been merged into on the highway more times than I can count while going the speed limit. Simply because people are too lazy to check their mirrors. Filtering also encourages people to use motorcycles instead of cars which greatly reduces traffic. When I filter i help both myself and the car drivers that’s what I feel like many people don’t understand
@@-festive-6342 Yea I'm not really against splitting but I feel like Filtering is a must. I live in Colorado where its all illegal. So I dream of a day when I don't have to worry about getting hit from behind.
That's what you blue haired voters get.
You turned your state into California, but worse. Look at the law. Look at the familiarities. Educate if you're going to post a video like this.
@@yongyea4147are you talking about the same California that has legal lane splitting? With the complete opposite of what this Texas bill is about. Also “what you blue haired voters get.” Doesn’t make sense when the bill was written and sponsored by a republican congressman. Maybe you should educate yourself before saying anything on the internet.
@yongyea4147 what? This is a conservative law.. that a republican proposed.
So you are assuming that only democrats ride?? Sorry I'm a republican that lives in North Texas and I think this law is bull s@!#. You are probably one of those people who's mirror I jacked up because you tried to kill me on the road.
The bill was supported by both Democrats and Republicans out of spite for motorcyclists.
Wearing a helmet gives a false sense of safety.
Wearing no helmet gives the rider a better sense of the risk.
Also, it's my body. My choice. I am not afraid of death. I will die someday. It's inevetible.
What I fear is being a vegetable. If a helmet saves me from dying, but breaks my neck so I can't move.... I'll become my own surgeon and reconnect my spine just to kick your ass for passing the law.
I guess you are IMMORTAL!