Actually in Sweden we're planning to build New 320km/h high speed railnetworks Stockholm-Malmö and Gothenburg-Jönköping (on the southern shore of the long lake pretty much on the same latitude as Gothenburg). Though it is set to be in service by 2035/2040
Meanwhile Singapore eliminates the need for HSR by housing it's entire population (which is envisioned by an architect to reach about the same as that as Sweden in the future) in an area the size of a city ;)
Hi Toycat, I like the ICE-Train from Munich to Hamburg, it's only ~6h and both airports are far outside the cities, so even with just 1:20h flight time it's at least ~4 hours journey from city to city ... That the 4h barrier is real was just proofen by the new fast train connection between Munich and Berlin. The on your map still in progress (black) connection between Nürnberg and Leipzig is now a 300 km/h track and the so called Sprinter ICE from Munich to Berlin takes 3:55h and the flights got down by 20% in the first year (also due to the closing of Air Berlin, but even Lufthansa and easyJet that took over or extended their routes, lost passengers to the train.)
The map is a bit outdated, Poland has about 160km (80km finished in 2014 and another 80 in 2017) of 200km/h railway. It's not vety impressive, but we have to start somewhere.
The section between Barcelona and the French border has been there for years already, actually you can do the Paris-Barcelona journey in 6-7 hours, whilst by car it would be nearly 10 hours without stopping.
Also, high speed trains is much more expensive to build in some areas than in others. In Sweden the differences between winter and summer temperatures makes the ground move considerably, meaning the maintenance for high speed trains is significantly higher than in France and Spain. If you compare Sweden with Alaska and Siberia (same latitudes) you will find areas where you can't even drive a car because the roads are so difficult to maintain.
@@angelgames9351 Japan has a lot of mountains too; probably they minimised their cost by using tighter tunnels, which requires more streamlined noses (up to 15m long) on their rolling stock though to reduce the sonic boom when trains enter & exit tunnels
Hire Spanish companies for that then.. They built the Saudi Arabia high speed train and network.. With even more temperature range and sand dunes.. Their engineering is awesome
Spanish high speed trains concept really sucks in my opinion. Because of the price. It's usually over 100€ for a ticket, while domestic flights are under 50€ and buses are between 10 and 20€. I used the trains a few times (with InterRail) and I was not surprised seeing them almost empty. France, that's a totally different story and I always enjoy taking the TGV. And the Portuguese Alfa Pendular is not bad either, although it's not that fast.
1:42 How old is your Europe HSR map ? Paris to Bordeaux should be in red, the same goes for Strasbourg to Lyon, and also from Barcelona to Perpignan (North of Barcelona)
I feel they need a highspeed betweens Athens and Thessaloniki. The route went up 100% in 3 years! Also quite a busy route. Too bad Greece doesnt have a lot of money.
Imagine how awesome the scenery on that route would be! But yeah, it's a real shame they don't have the money for it... Now that i think about it, it would probably be a real head ache going through all of those montains as well.
The population of the "Big" 5 (UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain) is the same as that of the USA, but the area is much, much smaller. High speed rail makes little sense in the USA. (London to Paris: under 350 km. San Francisco to Los Angeles: over 600 km.)
@@nothingtowatch3708 - It's the only part that makes sense, but the train has to make too many stops, too many cooks (local levels of govt., private corps.) are involved, etc.
High-speed rail makes sense for distances up to 1000 km and more generally when it can make the trip in 3 hours, which California High-speed Rail will.
Hi, for context im 16y/o and living in a 40K people city in Germany, I'm using high-speed trains really often, because it takes at least 1½h to the next airport, and trains are just fast, and because they are indirectly funded by the government, truly cheap (like 15€ one way through Germany when you book early), furthermore I think it is just easier to hop on a train because you have not to through any security checks or so
The Fehmarn Belt Fixed Link tunnel between Fehmarn and Lolland is a done deal. It is part of EU TEN-T, all subcontractors have signed and the main contractor is a company owned by the danish ministry of transport. They will pay most of it and funding is already allocated. The only thing that could stop it at this point are german environmentalists, but they are short of losing in the courts. Construction should begin soon.
I live in the Netherlands and my friends and I recently thougth about going to london. We started to do some research on prices and travel time. What did we find out? The train is just as expensive as the fligth. And with boarding and all, both journeys are about 4 hours. Since you dont have to wait for like 2 hours to get on a train a lot of people would much rather get on the train in stead of the plane.
@M. de k. Can be less than 100 for train. They sell also for 39. Plus you also need to count price for travel to airports. So flying is only convenient if you live next to airport imo.
@M. de k. You are right. Although I wouldnt dare to show up 30 min before flight. :) I have had ocassionaly long lines for bag check, also at small airports.
there is high speed going from Munich to Hamburg also that europe map shows high speed routes only so technically oslo and trondheim are connected with highspeed but then with
Yeah, at least in Spain, it's so much less hastle to get on the train. You just show up and hop on. Also, if you need to change your ticket you can do it no charge pretty last minute. The big thing here though, is that the train is political secondarily. The idea is to integrate all the regions of Spain with one another (not culturally… but in terms of the big country.) I really wish Portugual hadn't pulled out. My region is right next to Portugual and they pulled out. We all go on vacation there in my area so it'd be nice. (The map isn't 100% up to date for Spain, the line to France is done, as well as the Galicia portion of the A Coruña Vigo line, and the Oviedo line is done as far as León.) Nice video!
What I hated about the AVE in Spain was the security controls. Just like in an airport they would check my backpack and everything, I was a little annoyed by that...
Well the building of dedicated high speed lines in Portugal (including across the border) wasn't completely called off. Just put on hold for the time being and for an undetermined amount od time (which isn't much better, but still 😥). The thing is we don't have the money to invest in such an expensive project, or not enough to make it a top priority. Many argue that other investiments on our railway system would be more important. One that would have an extremely good effect on the freight transport, reducing the number of far more poluting and relatively more expensive circulating trucks, and that would bring far more dinamism to our ports would be changing the gauge of our railway system to the Standard gauge used in most of Europe. Particularly now with the expansion of the Panama canal. But we depend on Spain doing the same for it to be an actual asset. Many people also argue that the investment for high speed lines is too heavy for the benefits it would bring, and particularly that it would be a rather expensive means of transport that only richer people would afford using on a regular basis. But believe many people here are in favor of building it. I certainly find the connectivity it would bring and the way it reduces the time of journeys fascinating. Meanwhile they are building a rather direct new convencional line that will connect Lisbon to Badajoz (and therefore Madrid and other Spanish cities) that will allow for high performing train to operate. They are also making some changes on the line that connects Porto to Galicia, particularly electrifying it, which will reduce the time of the journey between Vigo and Porto.
That case if people taking trains rather than plane between london and amsterdam makes sense to me. You have to get to the airport via train, get from the platform to the gate, wait another eternity. That is just annoying and adds up another hour that you wouldn't have when taking train. For the train, you get on one train to get to the right station, and you just switch plattforms, and hop into the train. Easy as that.
I was just on the phone with a friend taking a train from London to Liverpool, he's almost there I believe... Man, the railways in Britain sure need some change, the whole system's gone mad.
Connect the idea of an Inter-european highspeed rail network with the idea of an pan-european rail ticket for young people as suggested by some EU officials
Interrail tickets used to be pan-european. But it changed already a few decades ago. Wait. Now that I checked Interrail they are again selling global pass which allows travel in 33 countries.
That's not a real problem! Every 2 hours there is a ICE Sprinter between Frankfurt and Berlin that only stops in Erfurt and Halle on the way and this one takes around 3:55. The ones that take the old route and stop in Fulda, Kassel, Göttingen, Hildesheim and Braunschweig just take ten minutes more and those who additionally stop in Hanau and Wolfsburg take around 4:15. Yes it's twenty minutes more but it's also five stops more. So one stop costs you about 4 minutes. So if there was a direct train from Frankfurt to Berlin it would be only about 8 minutes faster than the current Sprinter...
@@TheTomatenfritz3000 the thing is the trains aren't going so fast because when you drive through inhabitanted area there are stricter requirements for noise.
And also I don't think it's that bad! I used to do the trip Essen-Berlin quite often and it would be at least 5 hours by car, even on the Autobahn and the ICE does it in 3:45 while stopping in Wolfsburg, Hannover, Bielefeld, Hamm, Dortmund and Bochum and travelling through quite some populated areas on its way. So I guess it's still a great thing!
Actually the trains going from Munich to Hamburg and vice versa go via Berlin and not via central Germany. The Trip is something around 7 hours long. With an airplane it would cost you around 4 hours from city center to city center.
This map is kinda outdated 1:47 Turkey has speed train Istanbul to Eskişehir for a few years so it should be orange in that part but still it is a really good video. 👍
Hey! Actually, weirdly enough, my family and friends happen to be kind of distributed around one of these european axes that don't exist (sadly for me 😂)! So I'm one of these people taking the (sometimes high-speed) train between Paris and Warsaw, and stopping on the way (and it's actually cheaper than taking the plane despite the long distances). Plus, long times aren't a problem for me, it gives me time to enjoy about the landscape and makes me feel as if it's really an adventure, not just a single routine trip. Just my point of view :) I have family near Strasburg, had an exchange with germans living in Darmstadt (near Frankfurt), have friends and family in Berlin, and family in Warsaw. So... yeah, it's always an adventure to do the trip in the winter :) now I sometimes take the flixbus because it's finally legal in France (and Poland) because it's cheaper, but I still enjoy the train more. The fun thing with Flixbus is that they operate bus routes which were once planned to become high-speed tracks, especially Paris-Budapest through Bratislava (the project is still on now that they built the purple Paris-Strasburg connection!), or Paris-Warsaw, or even Paris-Berlin where you are supposed to switch trains in Frankfurt. Oh, and I know you can't do anything against it and I don't blame you for these maps 😂, but I'd be curious to see a recent map with recent changes because so many countries now changed colours! From what I know, Morocco, Israel and Saudi Arabia at least belong to the high-speed countries (all 3 since 2018), and should be joined by India and maybe Australia in a more distant future. Maybe Malaysia as well? Oh and a last thing: Poland has made unexpected progress in the high-speed domain in the last 20 years as you mentioned! They even spoke of building proper (300 km/h) high speed on Warszawa-Wrocław-Dresden and Warszawa-Poznań-Berlin by going through Łódź, the 2nd city by population. However, their Pendolinos, although slower, are great 😍 (Warszawa-Gdańsk and Warszawa-Kraków, mainly). The Czech Republic, which also has the same Pendolinos on shorter distances, would be 2nd on this progression ranking , I guess... As always, great video with many new stuff to learn about! 😉
I guess the problem in germany is the network itself. First its very dense so you dont have so many long HSR lines and the from my experience it is also not very cheap compared to other options. For example the Autobahn. Many people say ok so this is not really something comparable but it makes a difference driving between 130 and 190kmh instead of being limited to 120kmh all the time.
This is not the latest map (even for 2019) since you should have Tours - Bordeaux, Le Mans - Rennes until Strasbourg in violet. Other changes includes the completion of the Barcelona - Perpignan route and the dijon - Mulhouse route ... and that's only for France, so I can't imagine how it's been for the other countries...
I'm a bit surprised concerning high speed network in France : full dedicated high speed lines has already been opened (for a few years now) between Tours and Bordeaux as well as between Le Mans and Nantes (with speed limits above 300 km/h).
High speed rail has been on the table for the Australian government for decades but it is yet to be delivered as politicians tend to promise the earth and give us a globe
Interestingly the country with the best rail system, Switzerland, doesn't have the highest speeds. Having spent quite a bit of time in both France and Switzerland, France may be faster on the TGVs, but I'll take the Swiss system any day. They can plan a year ahead of time and are nearly always on time. France, the UK, even Germany can be problematic. We won't even discuss Italy. But Switzerland nearly flawless.
I haven't been to Switzerland and its neighbours often, but here's a fun exemplary anecdote: So I was staying at an acquaintance's house in Switzerland and their town was really tiny, so to do anything we needed to take the train to Zürich. And the trains were awesome. A few days later however we crossed the border to Constance. Really nice time there and the train ride was, once again, awesome and on time. But (and here's the big thing) when we had to go back to Switzerland the German train was late... BY 2 WHOLE HOURS. We were like freaking out cuz the delay just kept going, and going, and going while the train wasn't going anywhere apparently since we were stranded at the station! God if it weren't so ridiculous I'd be angry at it. (Or maybe it isn't ridiculous; I don't have much experience with trains as I mostly get places by cycling. You know, being Dutch and all that)
personally I think speed is more important than timeliness - I wouldn't take a train to Paris if it took 5 hours, even if it was on time every time. Timeliness is great for local journeys, but lots of other mini networks are great too
@@ibx2cat With Switzerland being quite a small country journeys can't be really long so timeliness becomes a more important factor, Peet actually does have a point here. You are right about longer trips, a 10 or even 15 minute delay isn't that important when your total journey is going to be upwards of 2 or 3 hours.
The swiss trains stop for nearly every city larger than 10‘000 people. So no time to speed up in small switzerland. But yes I would like faster trains for tiny switzerland.
@@switzerland There are still parts of the network were trains go at quite high speed,, for example trains going North/South get to a speed of 200kmh and new trains with a capacity of 250kmh are being added to the line. Clearly though it's difficult to do not only because of the frequent stops but also the terrain.
18:55 'a flight to Dusseldorf or a lot of other weird cities with small regional airports' Meanwhile, Dusseldorf has Germany's third largest airport, connecting to 180 different cities and handles 24 million passengers per year lol
imo one of the problems with the Deutsche Bahn is that its more or less private so it has to make money and investing into infrastructure doesnt make money (at least not in short term). Also toycat... how can you not know where Mallorca is? Arent you Brits going there once a year to get completely drunk just like us Germans? :D
What about bus routes. Recently flixbus is expanding like crazy and it super cheap. I just booked a round trip in France from lille - Paris - Lyon - Marseille - Montpellier for Less then 4 euro. Yes it takes a little bit longer, but for those prices and your not in a hurry, why would you fly or go by train.
“Europe has the most countries with high speed rail” well, since Europe has the second most countries, it’s not surprising that there are more countries with high speed rails than something like North America
The Map is outdated since the tracks in germany under construction are in operation already and the tracks wich are labled with 250 km/h are 280 km/h tracks.
Could you do a video on Slovakia? I've seen your Czechia video and I think you would like Slovakia as well. If you do it try mentioning some notable people from there. I learned about the country quite a lot and I really like it, there are some weird cities that got split between them and Hungary (one of them being second most important city in Hungary from historical point of view and the other bug one being like 10th biggest Slovak city. I could talk a lot but I will keep the rest for you if you do it. Thanks
I much rather take train than airplane. Because more comfortable and less hussle with check in, going to airport, etc. I hope we see much more highspeed in Europe! O, and dont worry about airlines getting less traffic, actually almost all airlines have large growth in traffic, plus trains are better for the environment.
C'mon Andrew just type your business email in the Description or as a reply to this comment. You know we can't email you our editing skillz without it.
I love how you complain about the like 6 hour train ride for places 1000 km away from each other, I have to take a 15km train that takes 40 minutes lol
Well, I don't really see what's worth editing here. I know it's hard to watch 20+ minutes videos but sometimes that's what I, personally, want. I mean, yeah, you could possibly cut some repeats but I don't want any graphics and stuff added. Btw, try to cut long videos in parts.
Depends, if you book well in advance, Prices are reasonably cheap. I just went from Aachen all the way to Munich for 20€ on the ICE in 5:30. I think that's a pretty good deal tbh. Flixbus would be the same price for a 10-12 hour trip...
Finnish have different rail width than the rest of the eu. It is the same width that's used in russia. So if there is ever going to be a railway tunnel from estonia to finland it will need it's own rail or the width of the train must be altered before it can continue to other parts of finland. There are couple of rail plans to connect Helsinki to Tampere and Helsinki to Turku with a bit faster connection. I am not sure what the speed rating will be but they are calling it 1 hour train from Helsinki to Turku. There's about 150 km between them and couple of cities they plan to stop on the way. Rail network really should be used more widely. I see no idea in moving huge amounts of cargo on trucks. Why not build good rail network to all of the country and have own rail for cargo and another for high speed passenger train. My opinion on the Helsinki - Turku connection is that is too slow by design. It should be half an hour train and skip the cities between and go full speed 300 km/h from end to end. That would be a real connection of the two working areas.
Freccia rossa and freccia bianca are the fast trains in Italy ... I’ve been on rail in England , Germany ,France , Switzerland , Austria , Italy , Sweden , Japan and as for Australia 1st world county 3rd world for transport 80 k on rail how sad !!!!!!
there is also Italo. MAp outdate, the Milan - Venice line is completed. I actually think high speed trains in Italy are impressive and cheap. Milan Roma is 25 Euros on average.
ROFLMFAO. London-Edinburgh is not high speed. xD It's also not affordable. >.< London-Edinburgh costs 150 quid return if you're lucky, but Spain really does have the most accessible network right now. >.< I can get from Barna to St Panc within 12 hours. Takes over a bloody day to do Paris to Glasgow. >.< Also, the Paristras line is such a lie. In reality, it'll run at the same speed as the rest of the EU's rail networks. The 300 clom lines are the fair representations of the networks as they currently exist.
Lengthwise? Of course not. China has more than the rest of the world COMBINED! 29,000 km Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high-speed_railway_lines
Actually in Sweden we're planning to build New 320km/h high speed railnetworks Stockholm-Malmö and Gothenburg-Jönköping (on the southern shore of the long lake pretty much on the same latitude as Gothenburg). Though it is set to be in service by 2035/2040
So europe will get even more high speed
Meanwhile Singapore eliminates the need for HSR by housing it's entire population (which is envisioned by an architect to reach about the same as that as Sweden in the future) in an area the size of a city ;)
@@lzh4950 HSR from where to where?
Hi Toycat, I like the ICE-Train from Munich to Hamburg, it's only ~6h and both airports are far outside the cities, so even with just 1:20h flight time it's at least ~4 hours journey from city to city ...
That the 4h barrier is real was just proofen by the new fast train connection between Munich and Berlin. The on your map still in progress (black) connection between Nürnberg and Leipzig is now a 300 km/h track and the so called Sprinter ICE from Munich to Berlin takes 3:55h and the flights got down by 20% in the first year (also due to the closing of Air Berlin, but even Lufthansa and easyJet that took over or extended their routes, lost passengers to the train.)
The map is a bit outdated, Poland has about 160km (80km finished in 2014 and another 80 in 2017) of 200km/h railway. It's not vety impressive, but we have to start somewhere.
eMeMpl not bad for a country that joined the eu in 2004
@H S Would have been cool if Poland would have built a dedicated 300 Km/h line to Berlin to Warsaw, to connect to Rail Baltica.
The section between Barcelona and the French border has been there for years already, actually you can do the Paris-Barcelona journey in 6-7 hours, whilst by car it would be nearly 10 hours without stopping.
Thats how Europe works
Also, high speed trains is much more expensive to build in some areas than in others. In Sweden the differences between winter and summer temperatures makes the ground move considerably, meaning the maintenance for high speed trains is significantly higher than in France and Spain. If you compare Sweden with Alaska and Siberia (same latitudes) you will find areas where you can't even drive a car because the roads are so difficult to maintain.
Jon F But in Spain infrastructure is quite expensive because there’s a lot of mountains
@@angelgames9351 Japan has a lot of mountains too; probably they minimised their cost by using tighter tunnels, which requires more streamlined noses (up to 15m long) on their rolling stock though to reduce the sonic boom when trains enter & exit tunnels
Hire Spanish companies for that then.. They built the Saudi Arabia high speed train and network.. With even more temperature range and sand dunes.. Their engineering is awesome
8:32 I like how the map casually ignores Kaliningrad lol
It also ignores Morocco! They have a 300 KM/h high speed line between their two major cities.
Spanish high speed trains concept really sucks in my opinion. Because of the price. It's usually over 100€ for a ticket, while domestic flights are under 50€ and buses are between 10 and 20€. I used the trains a few times (with InterRail) and I was not surprised seeing them almost empty. France, that's a totally different story and I always enjoy taking the TGV. And the Portuguese Alfa Pendular is not bad either, although it's not that fast.
Düsseldorf actually has a huge airport...
Yup, number 3 in Germany
Make a video about transportarion in general in Europe, Car, Plane, train, etc. What will change in the future?
We're aiming for less airplane use
1:42 How old is your Europe HSR map ? Paris to Bordeaux should be in red, the same goes for Strasbourg to Lyon, and also from Barcelona to Perpignan (North of Barcelona)
I feel they need a highspeed betweens Athens and Thessaloniki. The route went up 100% in 3 years! Also quite a busy route. Too bad Greece doesnt have a lot of money.
Imagine how awesome the scenery on that route would be! But yeah, it's a real shame they don't have the money for it...
Now that i think about it, it would probably be a real head ache going through all of those montains as well.
The population of the "Big" 5 (UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain) is the same as that of the USA, but the area is much, much smaller. High speed rail makes little sense in the USA.
(London to Paris: under 350 km. San Francisco to Los Angeles: over 600 km.)
@@nothingtowatch3708 - It's the only part that makes sense, but the train has to make too many stops, too many cooks (local levels of govt., private corps.) are involved, etc.
High-speed rail makes sense for distances up to 1000 km and more generally when it can make the trip in 3 hours, which California High-speed Rail will.
@@sm6allegro - It's not even planned for it to go from downtown SF to downtown LA. It's a money losing proposition.
@@SilvanaDil yes it is. The trains will go to LA Union and the Transbay Transit Center in SF
@@sm6allegro - And by the time that actually gets done, none of us will be alive.
Population density plays a large role in determining if high speed rail is to be a cost effective option.
0:43 There is no Morocco on your map, but find out, they also have a high speed train (I'm not Moroccan but I know that)
Morocco isn't in Europe.
Hi, for context im 16y/o and living in a 40K people city in Germany, I'm using high-speed trains really often, because it takes at least 1½h to the next airport, and trains are just fast, and because they are indirectly funded by the government, truly cheap (like 15€ one way through Germany when you book early), furthermore I think it is just easier to hop on a train because you have not to through any security checks or so
The Fehmarn Belt Fixed Link tunnel between Fehmarn and Lolland is a done deal. It is part of EU TEN-T, all subcontractors have signed and the main contractor is a company owned by the danish ministry of transport. They will pay most of it and funding is already allocated. The only thing that could stop it at this point are german environmentalists, but they are short of losing in the courts. Construction should begin soon.
@ 17:55 they don't build a bridge from Fehmarn to Denmark - they are building a tunnel. ;-)
I live in the Netherlands and my friends and I recently thougth about going to london. We started to do some research on prices and travel time. What did we find out? The train is just as expensive as the fligth. And with boarding and all, both journeys are about 4 hours. Since you dont have to wait for like 2 hours to get on a train a lot of people would much rather get on the train in stead of the plane.
@M. de k. Can be less than 100 for train. They sell also for 39. Plus you also need to count price for travel to airports. So flying is only convenient if you live next to airport imo.
@M. de k. You are right. Although I wouldnt dare to show up 30 min before flight. :) I have had ocassionaly long lines for bag check, also at small airports.
Took train from London to Amsterdam and then flew back. Train was waaaayyy better.
there is high speed going from Munich to Hamburg also that europe map shows high speed routes only so technically oslo and trondheim are connected with highspeed but then with
I hope you can do a video next time about the future of highspeed in Europe. Which lines are planned or under construction. ;)
I believe Greece just got High speed trains from an Italian company. They'll go from Athens to Thessaloniki. Maybe Thessaloniki to Alexanderpoli too.
Yeah, at least in Spain, it's so much less hastle to get on the train. You just show up and hop on. Also, if you need to change your ticket you can do it no charge pretty last minute. The big thing here though, is that the train is political secondarily. The idea is to integrate all the regions of Spain with one another (not culturally… but in terms of the big country.) I really wish Portugual hadn't pulled out. My region is right next to Portugual and they pulled out. We all go on vacation there in my area so it'd be nice. (The map isn't 100% up to date for Spain, the line to France is done, as well as the Galicia portion of the A Coruña Vigo line, and the Oviedo line is done as far as León.) Nice video!
What I hated about the AVE in Spain was the security controls. Just like in an airport they would check my backpack and everything, I was a little annoyed by that...
Well the building of dedicated high speed lines in Portugal (including across the border) wasn't completely called off. Just put on hold for the time being and for an undetermined amount od time (which isn't much better, but still 😥).
The thing is we don't have the money to invest in such an expensive project, or not enough to make it a top priority.
Many argue that other investiments on our railway system would be more important. One that would have an extremely good effect on the freight transport, reducing the number of far more poluting and relatively more expensive circulating trucks, and that would bring far more dinamism to our ports would be changing the gauge of our railway system to the Standard gauge used in most of Europe. Particularly now with the expansion of the Panama canal. But we depend on Spain doing the same for it to be an actual asset.
Many people also argue that the investment for high speed lines is too heavy for the benefits it would bring, and particularly that it would be a rather expensive means of transport that only richer people would afford using on a regular basis.
But believe many people here are in favor of building it. I certainly find the connectivity it would bring and the way it reduces the time of journeys fascinating.
Meanwhile they are building a rather direct new convencional line that will connect Lisbon to Badajoz (and therefore Madrid and other Spanish cities) that will allow for high performing train to operate. They are also making some changes on the line that connects Porto to Galicia, particularly electrifying it, which will reduce the time of the journey between Vigo and Porto.
@@TheTomatenfritz3000 security is good
In Ukraine were building a Kyiv-Odessa ,Kyiv-Kharkiv,Kyiv-Lviv and Lviv-Poland lines
Morocco has HSR without being one of the 3 largest economies. Their rail system in general is very impressive.
That case if people taking trains rather than plane between london and amsterdam makes sense to me. You have to get to the airport via train, get from the platform to the gate, wait another eternity. That is just annoying and adds up another hour that you wouldn't have when taking train. For the train, you get on one train to get to the right station, and you just switch plattforms, and hop into the train. Easy as that.
I was just on the phone with a friend taking a train from London to Liverpool, he's almost there I believe... Man, the railways in Britain sure need some change, the whole system's gone mad.
Connect the idea of an Inter-european highspeed rail network with the idea of an pan-european rail ticket for young people as suggested by some EU officials
Interrail tickets used to be pan-european. But it changed already a few decades ago. Wait. Now that I checked Interrail they are again selling global pass which allows travel in 33 countries.
The problem with Germany is also the high population density. So from Berlin to Frankfurt the train stops too often ;).
@Mr. P. Enis we have that here already... But still. To many towns with 100.000 or more inhabitants...
That's not a real problem! Every 2 hours there is a ICE Sprinter between Frankfurt and Berlin that only stops in Erfurt and Halle on the way and this one takes around 3:55.
The ones that take the old route and stop in Fulda, Kassel, Göttingen, Hildesheim and Braunschweig just take ten minutes more and those who additionally stop in Hanau and Wolfsburg take around 4:15.
Yes it's twenty minutes more but it's also five stops more. So one stop costs you about 4 minutes. So if there was a direct train from Frankfurt to Berlin it would be only about 8 minutes faster than the current Sprinter...
@@TheTomatenfritz3000 the thing is the trains aren't going so fast because when you drive through inhabitanted area there are stricter requirements for noise.
Thats true but that's also quite hard to change ;P
And also I don't think it's that bad! I used to do the trip Essen-Berlin quite often and it would be at least 5 hours by car, even on the Autobahn and the ICE does it in 3:45 while stopping in Wolfsburg, Hannover, Bielefeld, Hamm, Dortmund and Bochum and travelling through quite some populated areas on its way. So I guess it's still a great thing!
Actually the trains going from Munich to Hamburg and vice versa go via Berlin and not via central Germany. The Trip is something around 7 hours long. With an airplane it would cost you around 4 hours from city center to city center.
Hamburg - Munich takes less than 6h by train on the fastest route passing Hannover, Kassel & Nuremberg (indeed, central Germany)
London Paris there is real competition train vs flight
sometimes easyJet flight (+ 20£ to go to/from Gatwick/Luton) is cheaper than Eurostar journey
This map is kinda outdated 1:47 Turkey has speed train Istanbul to Eskişehir for a few years so it should be orange in that part but still it is a really good video. 👍
All the Nordic capitals except Reykjavik are well over one million - if not in the municipality, then certainly in the urban area :)
That map is extremely outdated!
Hey! Actually, weirdly enough, my family and friends happen to be kind of distributed around one of these european axes that don't exist (sadly for me 😂)! So I'm one of these people taking the (sometimes high-speed) train between Paris and Warsaw, and stopping on the way (and it's actually cheaper than taking the plane despite the long distances). Plus, long times aren't a problem for me, it gives me time to enjoy about the landscape and makes me feel as if it's really an adventure, not just a single routine trip. Just my point of view :)
I have family near Strasburg, had an exchange with germans living in Darmstadt (near Frankfurt), have friends and family in Berlin, and family in Warsaw. So... yeah, it's always an adventure to do the trip in the winter :) now I sometimes take the flixbus because it's finally legal in France (and Poland) because it's cheaper, but I still enjoy the train more. The fun thing with Flixbus is that they operate bus routes which were once planned to become high-speed tracks, especially Paris-Budapest through Bratislava (the project is still on now that they built the purple Paris-Strasburg connection!), or Paris-Warsaw, or even Paris-Berlin where you are supposed to switch trains in Frankfurt.
Oh, and I know you can't do anything against it and I don't blame you for these maps 😂, but I'd be curious to see a recent map with recent changes because so many countries now changed colours!
From what I know, Morocco, Israel and Saudi Arabia at least belong to the high-speed countries (all 3 since 2018), and should be joined by India and maybe Australia in a more distant future. Maybe Malaysia as well?
Oh and a last thing: Poland has made unexpected progress in the high-speed domain in the last 20 years as you mentioned! They even spoke of building proper (300 km/h) high speed on Warszawa-Wrocław-Dresden and Warszawa-Poznań-Berlin by going through Łódź, the 2nd city by population. However, their Pendolinos, although slower, are great 😍 (Warszawa-Gdańsk and Warszawa-Kraków, mainly). The Czech Republic, which also has the same Pendolinos on shorter distances, would be 2nd on this progression ranking , I guess...
As always, great video with many new stuff to learn about! 😉
I guess the problem in germany is the network itself. First its very dense so you dont have so many long HSR lines and the from my experience it is also not very cheap compared to other options. For example the Autobahn. Many people say ok so this is not really something comparable but it makes a difference driving between 130 and 190kmh instead of being limited to 120kmh all the time.
This is not the latest map (even for 2019) since you should have Tours - Bordeaux, Le Mans - Rennes until Strasbourg in violet. Other changes includes the completion of the Barcelona - Perpignan route and the dijon - Mulhouse route ... and that's only for France, so I can't imagine how it's been for the other countries...
I hope the Americas do this.
Where is Morocco?
I'm a bit surprised concerning high speed network in France :
full dedicated high speed lines has already been opened (for a few years now) between Tours and Bordeaux as well as between Le Mans and Nantes (with speed limits above 300 km/h).
The map is like 10 years old.
Didnt know you made these types of videos! Cool!
On the bright side ,.. the speed of the trains in the UK is still higher than the speed at which the Chinese are building their modern railway lines.
High speed rail has been on the table for the Australian government for decades but it is yet to be delivered as politicians tend to promise the earth and give us a globe
Interestingly the country with the best rail system, Switzerland, doesn't have the highest speeds. Having spent quite a bit of time in both France and Switzerland, France may be faster on the TGVs, but I'll take the Swiss system any day. They can plan a year ahead of time and are nearly always on time. France, the UK, even Germany can be problematic. We won't even discuss Italy. But Switzerland nearly flawless.
I haven't been to Switzerland and its neighbours often, but here's a fun exemplary anecdote:
So I was staying at an acquaintance's house in Switzerland and their town was really tiny, so to do anything we needed to take the train to Zürich. And the trains were awesome.
A few days later however we crossed the border to Constance. Really nice time there and the train ride was, once again, awesome and on time. But (and here's the big thing) when we had to go back to Switzerland the German train was late... BY 2 WHOLE HOURS. We were like freaking out cuz the delay just kept going, and going, and going while the train wasn't going anywhere apparently since we were stranded at the station!
God if it weren't so ridiculous I'd be angry at it. (Or maybe it isn't ridiculous; I don't have much experience with trains as I mostly get places by cycling. You know, being Dutch and all that)
personally I think speed is more important than timeliness - I wouldn't take a train to Paris if it took 5 hours, even if it was on time every time. Timeliness is great for local journeys, but lots of other mini networks are great too
@@ibx2cat With Switzerland being quite a small country journeys can't be really long so timeliness becomes a more important factor, Peet actually does have a point here. You are right about longer trips, a 10 or even 15 minute delay isn't that important when your total journey is going to be upwards of 2 or 3 hours.
The swiss trains stop for nearly every city larger than 10‘000 people. So no time to speed up in small switzerland. But yes I would like faster trains for tiny switzerland.
@@switzerland There are still parts of the network were trains go at quite high speed,, for example trains going North/South get to a speed of 200kmh and new trains with a capacity of 250kmh are being added to the line. Clearly though it's difficult to do not only because of the frequent stops but also the terrain.
18:55 'a flight to Dusseldorf or a lot of other weird cities with small regional airports'
Meanwhile, Dusseldorf has Germany's third largest airport, connecting to 180 different cities and handles 24 million passengers per year lol
Dusseldorf also has a weird regional airport though, which is the one that comes to mind first for me because there are more flights to it from the UK
@@ibx2cat Yeah, the city has two; Dusseldorf International and Dusseldorf-Weeze
Toycat, you should make a video on the Lower Thames Crossing ( a proposed road east of London)
imo one of the problems with the Deutsche Bahn is that its more or less private so it has to make money and investing into infrastructure doesnt make money (at least not in short term).
Also toycat... how can you not know where Mallorca is? Arent you Brits going there once a year to get completely drunk just like us Germans? :D
I think EU should conect vienna and bratislava , bc these 2 cities are only 60km away of each other
You should make a video about countries that have more than one airport but have no domestic flights.
What about bus routes. Recently flixbus is expanding like crazy and it super cheap. I just booked a round trip in France from lille - Paris - Lyon - Marseille - Montpellier for Less then 4 euro. Yes it takes a little bit longer, but for those prices and your not in a hurry, why would you fly or go by train.
16:27 they should make number 19 a high speed rail line
“Europe has the most countries with high speed rail” well, since Europe has the second most countries, it’s not surprising that there are more countries with high speed rails than something like North America
The Map is outdated since the tracks in germany under construction are in operation already and the tracks wich are labled with 250 km/h are 280 km/h tracks.
could you talk about, baarle in brabant? pls
Could you do a video on Slovakia? I've seen your Czechia video and I think you would like Slovakia as well. If you do it try mentioning some notable people from there. I learned about the country quite a lot and I really like it, there are some weird cities that got split between them and Hungary (one of them being second most important city in Hungary from historical point of view and the other bug one being like 10th biggest Slovak city. I could talk a lot but I will keep the rest for you if you do it. Thanks
United States does not have hispeed rail. The Acela highspeed rial line gets an average of 60MPH. And thats our highspeed rail network
average & top speed are different, though
Hi ibxcat! Can you please make a video about Stockholms Subway system? Would be very happy if so.
That pronunciation of Toulouse tho 😂
Can we point out that on your map the Western Isles of Scotland have vanished lol
1:43 sadly, this map is VERY outdated
MaXtremeTrains yes
I would not call an ICE high speed
If it travels over 200km/h I would call it highspeed
You still did not fight the final boss - the high-speed night train. Would cover 2000 km distance literally like nothing.
Morroco also has a HST, this map is outdated
Russia has some orange even a little bit of yellow
I much rather take train than airplane. Because more comfortable and less hussle with check in, going to airport, etc. I hope we see much more highspeed in Europe! O, and dont worry about airlines getting less traffic, actually almost all airlines have large growth in traffic, plus trains are better for the environment.
"faster than they already" : did you mean "faster than they currently do"?
The former brought us Pamukova incident in Turkey.
The western world and Uzbekistan! Lol 1:06
Yeah, Toycat should make a video about that.
Construction Leipzig-Nürnberg is finished.
What's your Email? (Edits)
ICE Frankfurt-Köln 300 km/h
Alborg to Copenhagen 200 km/h
12:13 Actually thats not true, Lufthansa beat them again this year (its close tho). So Lufthansa ist the biggest airline in europe.
Where is morocco ? The fast train opened up back in the last of 2018
Morocco isn't Europe
Can you do something about China, Hongkong and Taiwan?
OK, give receipts for RyanAir being a bigger airline than Lufthansa.
Unsubbed. :
Don't take the Orient Express. It's hazardous.
crazy the UK doesn't have TGV!
well we do but only 1 line, we are in the starting phase of building a second one
C'mon Andrew just type your business email in the Description or as a reply to this comment. You know we can't email you our editing skillz without it.
maybe that's the first challenge to be an editor haha
I watched the video again. Never-mind.
ScotRail is always having problems
*Welcome to the UK!*
*With Lot's of Problems*
TheMarioManiac why do i see you all over the comments on toycat’s video’s
Can you do a video about Stuttgart 21? It's a cool infrastructure project in Germany
I love how you complain about the like 6 hour train ride for places 1000 km away from each other, I have to take a 15km train that takes 40 minutes lol
So Uzbekistan has high speed rail?
Nice and Speedy 👌
Well, I don't really see what's worth editing here. I know it's hard to watch 20+ minutes videos but sometimes that's what I, personally, want. I mean, yeah, you could possibly cut some repeats but I don't want any graphics and stuff added. Btw, try to cut long videos in parts.
I wonder why Warsaw to Kiev isn't much faster ?
I'm 2 years later
In Germany prices are shit tho.
Depends, if you book well in advance, Prices are reasonably cheap. I just went from Aachen all the way to Munich for 20€ on the ICE in 5:30. I think that's a pretty good deal tbh. Flixbus would be the same price for a 10-12 hour trip...
@@TheTomatenfritz3000 that is an awesome deal. Almost nothing ^^
Toycat, what education did you take?
Finnish have different rail width than the rest of the eu. It is the same width that's used in russia. So if there is ever going to be a railway tunnel from estonia to finland it will need it's own rail or the width of the train must be altered before it can continue to other parts of finland.
There are couple of rail plans to connect Helsinki to Tampere and Helsinki to Turku with a bit faster connection. I am not sure what the speed rating will be but they are calling it 1 hour train from Helsinki to Turku. There's about 150 km between them and couple of cities they plan to stop on the way.
Rail network really should be used more widely. I see no idea in moving huge amounts of cargo on trucks. Why not build good rail network to all of the country and have own rail for cargo and another for high speed passenger train. My opinion on the Helsinki - Turku connection is that is too slow by design. It should be half an hour train and skip the cities between and go full speed 300 km/h from end to end. That would be a real connection of the two working areas.
Freccia rossa and freccia bianca are the fast trains in Italy ... I’ve been on rail in England , Germany ,France , Switzerland , Austria , Italy , Sweden , Japan and as for Australia 1st world county 3rd world for transport 80 k on rail how sad !!!!!!
there is also Italo. MAp outdate, the Milan - Venice line is completed. I actually think high speed trains in Italy are impressive and cheap. Milan Roma is 25 Euros on average.
weakpass ha fatto Milano a Verona 2 ore
GEKOLONISEERD
Hercules…
HERCULES¿! O:o
trains
ROFLMFAO.
London-Edinburgh is not high speed. xD It's also not affordable. >.<
London-Edinburgh costs 150 quid return if you're lucky, but Spain really does have the most accessible network right now. >.< I can get from Barna to St Panc within 12 hours. Takes over a bloody day to do Paris to Glasgow. >.<
Also, the Paristras line is such a lie. In reality, it'll run at the same speed as the rest of the EU's rail networks. The 300 clom lines are the fair representations of the networks as they currently exist.
National Rail sucks
We need to renationalise our railways
2nd channel don’t care
well that's obvious because there is so many countries in Europe.
It has nothing to do with number of countries but rather population density. Look at China for instance. It has by far the most highspeed rail.
What do you think of the Boring Company?
pretty boring
does Europe have more High Speed Rail than China, South Korea and Japan combined?
Lengthwise? Of course not. China has more than the rest of the world COMBINED! 29,000 km Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high-speed_railway_lines
Note: The USA has more freight rail (and 13000 airports, etc.).